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Garioshi
05/27/17 11:28:55 PM
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I say semi-blind because I saw a playthrough of it maybe 5 years ago. I vaguely remember some of the plot twists and dungeons, but it's definitely not fresh in my memory. Playing the Steam version because I personally think that a framerate drop is worth saving $55. Still using a Gamecube controller because I'm not a neanderthal who uses a keyboard.

Just got kidnapped by the Desians, story's pretty standard so far. Keep in mind that my Tales experience is limited to Abyss, Dawn of the New World, and some of Phantasia, so that's the lens I'm going to be seeing it through. The only gripes I have so far are the stupidity of the AI at times, how slowly the characters turn around, the fact that Lloyd's spin attack seems to activate randomly, and the fact that Lloyd's attacks don't link to his first two techs (expect me to refer to these as artes all the time, it's going to happen), but these are all minor.

Going to be playing multiplayer at some point with my sister, which should be fun.
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Calwings
05/27/17 11:32:18 PM
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Have fun, I hope you enjoy it as much as I did. It's one of my all-time favorites.

Garioshi posted...
Going to be playing multiplayer at some point with my sister, which should be fun.

I remember doing this back on the GC version too. My cousin would always want to use Genis and spam Indignation. Those were fun times.
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Garioshi
05/27/17 11:33:05 PM
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Calwings posted...
Have fun, I hope you enjoy it as much as I did. It's one of my all-time favorites.

I expect to, as Abyss is probably my favorite game of all time.
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SSJGrimReaper
05/27/17 11:36:15 PM
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Garioshi
05/27/17 11:37:26 PM
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Are there cooking titles in this game? If so, are they as bad and offensively tedious as Abyss's?
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CapnMuffin
05/27/17 11:39:26 PM
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There's hidden recipes (examine odd looking objects through out the game) and I think a handful of cooking *related* titles.

There's even a title if you don't use any gels until like halfway through the game... wtf
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Garioshi
05/27/17 11:41:11 PM
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CapnMuffin posted...
There's hidden recipes (examine odd looking objects through out the game) and I think a handful of cooking *related* titles.

There's even a title if you don't use any gels until like halfway through the game... wtf

But I don't have to cook every recipe 30 times with every character?
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MechaKirby
05/27/17 11:54:27 PM
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How's you end up play Symphonia 2 before 1?

Stick to T- artes
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DarkChozoGhost
05/27/17 11:59:50 PM
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Garioshi posted...
CapnMuffin posted...
There's hidden recipes (examine odd looking objects through out the game) and I think a handful of cooking *related* titles.

There's even a title if you don't use any gels until like halfway through the game... wtf

But I don't have to cook every recipe 30 times with every character?

You have to perfect each recipe with each character. How many times you have to cook it varies. Most characters start with a recipe or two capped.
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Garioshi
05/27/17 11:59:50 PM
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MechaKirby posted...
How's you end up play Symphonia 2 before 1?

MlRq64W

EDIT: same time post lmaoooo
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DarkChozoGhost
05/28/17 12:03:43 AM
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^5 stp
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Garioshi
05/28/17 11:40:09 AM
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Damn, won't be able to play today. Got family things going on.
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omega cookie
05/28/17 11:44:31 AM
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Garioshi posted...
Keep in mind that my Tales experience is limited to Abyss, Dawn of the New World, and some of Phantasia, so that's the lens I'm going to be seeing it through.

You're so lucky. I played the Symphonia HD Remaster after Vesperia, Graces F, and Xillia 1 and 2, and Symphonia was the biggest fucking chore of a game I've played in years. I was aware that it was because I was playing an 'older' system than what I was used too, but it didn't make me hate it any less.
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Garioshi
05/28/17 11:51:18 AM
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omega cookie posted...
Garioshi posted...
Keep in mind that my Tales experience is limited to Abyss, Dawn of the New World, and some of Phantasia, so that's the lens I'm going to be seeing it through.

You're so lucky. I played the Symphonia HD Remaster after Vesperia, Graces F, and Xillia 1 and 2, and Symphonia was the biggest fucking chore of a game I've played in years. I was aware that it was because I was playing an 'older' system than what I was used too, but it didn't make me hate it any less.

Are those battle systems notably better than Symphonia's, or were there other reasons for Symphonia being a chore?
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Medz1986
05/28/17 11:52:58 AM
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ToS is the second best game of all time
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Bio1590
05/28/17 12:11:55 PM
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Garioshi posted...
or were there other reasons for Symphonia being a chore?

It's so fucking long. There's some dungeons you have to beat twice.
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KainWind
05/28/17 12:16:47 PM
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I just started Symphonia on Steam recently too! I played the game a lot on GC a long time ago, but I remember a lot of stuff. I'm also referencing some guides just so I make sure to get everything since I'm not gonna be spoiled. I'm several hours ahead of you if you have any questions or anything. I plan on doing multiple playthroughs for the achievements.
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omega cookie
05/28/17 12:24:49 PM
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Garioshi posted...
omega cookie posted...
Garioshi posted...
Keep in mind that my Tales experience is limited to Abyss, Dawn of the New World, and some of Phantasia, so that's the lens I'm going to be seeing it through.

You're so lucky. I played the Symphonia HD Remaster after Vesperia, Graces F, and Xillia 1 and 2, and Symphonia was the biggest fucking chore of a game I've played in years. I was aware that it was because I was playing an 'older' system than what I was used too, but it didn't make me hate it any less.

Are those battle systems notably better than Symphonia's, or were there other reasons for Symphonia being a chore?

The battle systems evolved with each Tales game, so it was like playing Megaman 1 after playing the X series. Not bad, but more 'basic', I guess.

Same thing with the story. Later games got more... mature? With their subject matter, while Symphonia was clearly written with a younger audience in mind. Not for kids or anything, but a younger crowd.

Mind you, it doesn't mean Symphonia was bad at all, nor do I mean to dissuade you from enjoying it. I just played the Tales games in an order sucked all of the fun out of it, and made me hate playing it.
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Garioshi
05/28/17 12:24:59 PM
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Bio1590 posted...
Garioshi posted...
or were there other reasons for Symphonia being a chore?

It's so fucking long. There's some dungeons you have to beat twice.

How long are we talking in comparison to Abyss?
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Bio1590
05/28/17 12:26:04 PM
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CapnMuffin posted...
There's hidden recipes (examine odd looking objects through out the game) and I think a handful of cooking *related* titles.

There's even a title if you don't use any gels until like halfway through the game... wtf

I wouldn't really call that a spoiler, it doesn't ruin the plot and there's no way you'd do it if you weren't intentionally trying for it >_>

That title, Colette's title for no deaths until you beat Iubaris at the Temple of Mana and Lloyd's title for only using the wooden swords until you beat Killia in Palmacosta are terrible.
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Bio1590
05/28/17 12:28:29 PM
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Garioshi posted...
Bio1590 posted...
Garioshi posted...
or were there other reasons for Symphonia being a chore?

It's so fucking long. There's some dungeons you have to beat twice.

How long are we talking in comparison to Abyss?

I've never played Abyss but the first time I played Symphonia I'm pretty sure I had well over 3 days worth of play time by the time I finally beat the final boss for the first time.
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Garioshi
05/28/17 2:17:53 PM
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Bio1590 posted...
Garioshi posted...
Bio1590 posted...
Garioshi posted...
or were there other reasons for Symphonia being a chore?

It's so fucking long. There's some dungeons you have to beat twice.

How long are we talking in comparison to Abyss?

I've never played Abyss but the first time I played Symphonia I'm pretty sure I had well over 3 days worth of play time by the time I finally beat the final boss for the first time.

Jesus.
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Garioshi
05/28/17 11:21:09 PM
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Just beat the boss of Triet Ruins. Quite an annoying boss, as its hitbox shifts back and forth depending on how it's turning, but it's over.

Gotta say that I think this game would look a lot better without the outlines.
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DarkChozoGhost
05/29/17 1:50:20 AM
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Bio1590 posted...
CapnMuffin posted...
There's hidden recipes (examine odd looking objects through out the game) and I think a handful of cooking *related* titles.

There's even a title if you don't use any gels until like halfway through the game... wtf

I wouldn't really call that a spoiler, it doesn't ruin the plot and there's no way you'd do it if you weren't intentionally trying for it >_>

That title, Colette's title for no deaths until you beat Iubaris at the Temple of Mana and Lloyd's title for only using the wooden swords until you beat Killia in Palmacosta are terrible.

There's also a title for beating a boss near the end of disk 1 at a stupidly low level
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Bio1590
05/29/17 2:01:16 AM
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DarkChozoGhost posted...
Bio1590 posted...
CapnMuffin posted...
There's hidden recipes (examine odd looking objects through out the game) and I think a handful of cooking *related* titles.

There's even a title if you don't use any gels until like halfway through the game... wtf

I wouldn't really call that a spoiler, it doesn't ruin the plot and there's no way you'd do it if you weren't intentionally trying for it >_>

That title, Colette's title for no deaths until you beat Iubaris at the Temple of Mana and Lloyd's title for only using the wooden swords until you beat Killia in Palmacosta are terrible.

There's also a title for beating a boss near the end of disk 1 at a stupidly low level

You have to defeat Rodyle with a combined combat party level of less than 145.

Basically the "easiest" way to do it is to keep someone dead for most of the game and then sub them in for the battle. If they're less than Level 10 then your 3 good characters can average about Level 45.
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DarkChozoGhost
05/29/17 11:20:00 AM
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I just used the newgame+ 1/2 experience modifier. The other newgame bonuses made it not a problem
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Garioshi
05/29/17 12:36:12 PM
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Hi there, tits. How are you today?
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YookaLaylee
05/29/17 12:38:11 PM
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MechaKirby posted...
How's you end up play Symphonia 2 before 1?

Stick to T- artes

I played 2 first and at the time I didn't even know that there was a Tales of series
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Garioshi
05/29/17 12:59:14 PM
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So currently, Lloyd and Colette are S-type and Genis, Raine, and Kratos are T-type. Is this optimal?
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DarkChozoGhost
05/29/17 1:08:59 PM
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Optimal is the tech glitch, learning both.

Well, for genus and maybe one or two for raine
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ProfDE
05/29/17 10:47:01 PM
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Some tips I have are make sure you set the characters battle strategies optimally. You also may want to use the shortcut to have one of the characters you aren't controlling do a particular move such as a healing move.
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KainWind
05/29/17 11:03:43 PM
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I always used to give Lloyd S techs and Genis T techs, but I'm doing the opposite for the most part. I'm liking Lloyd's techs because they chain a lot better. I haven't fully transitioned to S with Genis yet because I wanted some T for a while. I think I'm gonna keep his fire and lightning techs T type and the rest go S.
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Bio1590
05/30/17 12:23:30 AM
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KainWind posted...
I always used to give Lloyd S techs and Genis T techs, but I'm doing the opposite for the most part. I'm liking Lloyd's techs because they chain a lot better. I haven't fully transitioned to S with Genis yet because I wanted some T for a while. I think I'm gonna keep his fire and lightning techs T type and the rest go S.

Dat Indignation Judgement cheese
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Garioshi
05/31/17 2:49:19 AM
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Sorry about not updating, life is happening at full force atm.
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DeltaRayquaza
06/01/17 3:39:28 PM
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Dammit, suspended again. And my computer won't connect to the Internet, which means I can't access Steam, which means I can't play ToS.
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DeltaRayquaza
06/02/17 7:17:01 AM
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Okay, I can't ignore this any longer. What the hell even is Lloyd's character design?
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deltadan
06/02/17 8:48:16 AM
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DeltaRayquaza posted...
Okay, I can't ignore this any longer. What the hell even is Lloyd's character design?

the best character design
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DeltaRayquaza
06/04/17 9:39:49 PM
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UnhndredDescole posted...
Good luck

thanks
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PBusted
06/09/17 12:04:34 AM
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Oh, Delta, you're garioshi?
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Garioshi
06/09/17 12:04:57 AM
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PBusted posted...
Oh, Delta, you're garioshi?

It's in the sig
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