Current Events > No one is "oppressed" in the United States today.

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It's pretty disgusting how people honestly believe there are oppressed groups today in the greatest country ever to have existed.
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True.
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The poor are oppressed.

And discrimination doesn't always mean oppression.

Also felons are oppressed.
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tell us more about how you can experience the unique subjective perspectives of over 300 million people
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The government doesn't specifically target groups to oppress. So that is true, but you can argue we are oppressed in certain ways depending...I wouldn't say anyone is really an oppressed person in the us, for the most part. Poverty isn't oppression btw and being jailed is, but there are some other factors involved and many people should be oppressed for certain crimes. Actually I would say non violent offenders are a specifically oppressed group.
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LysistrataMedea posted...

tell us more about how you can experience the unique subjective perspectives of over 300 million people

Someone's perspective doesn't mean they are oppressed.
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MARKINGRAM22 posted...

The government doesn't specifically target groups to oppress. So that is true, but you can argue we are oppressed in certain ways depending...I wouldn't say anyone is really an oppressed person in the us, for the most part. Poverty isn't oppression btw and being jailed is, but there are some other factors involved and many people should be oppressed for certain crimes. Actually I would say non violent offenders are a specifically oppressed group.

Just in case it wasn't clear, those two groups are the basis for a lot of claims of discrimination involving black people. I really don't want to meander around explaining oppression of the poor because yes, at the end of the day, it's no so simple as they are or aren't oppressed.
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So, uhh... no-one can tell that TC is being deliberately provocative? Saying something extreme to the point of parody to see if people will actually react to it seriously?
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MARKINGRAM22 posted...

LysistrataMedea posted...

tell us more about how you can experience the unique subjective perspectives of over 300 million people

Someone's perspective doesn't mean they are oppressed.

a person's subjective experience is the best guide to whether or not that person is being oppressed.
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MrMallard posted...

So, uhh... no-one can tell that TC is being deliberately provocative? Saying something extreme to the point of parody to see if people will actually react to it seriously?

Yeah, that's why I answered it in short sentences.
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MrMallard posted...

So, uhh... no-one can tell that TC is being deliberately provocative? Saying something extreme to the point of parody to see if people will actually react to it seriously?

It's the only way to get people to respond to your topics anymore. CE in general can't stomach a level-headed discussion.
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3rd_Best_Master posted...

It's the only way to get people to respond to your topics anymore. CE in general can't stomach a level-headed discussion.

You're not wrong.

Still, it's such a bummer to see people take the bait, seriously or not. I think a lot of shit that mires down CE could be avoided if people stopped entertaining it, because then you get people who actually believes that the TC is being serious and turns it into a real, impassioned argument about America The Great and the "libby thugs" who are "killing" it.
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LysistrataMedea posted...

tell us more about how you can experience the unique subjective perspectives of over 300 million people

Oppression isn't subjective.
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Conflict posted...

LysistrataMedea posted...

tell us more about how you can experience the unique subjective perspectives of over 300 million people

Tbf I was gonna type a serious response but then he said "greatest country to have ever existed" so

when it comes to CE, i'd rather post serious replies in an ironic topic with subject matter i care about than not get to talk about the subject matter at all
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Howl posted...

LysistrataMedea posted...

tell us more about how you can experience the unique subjective perspectives of over 300 million people

Oppression isn't subjective.

how is it not subjective? slave owning societies believed that slavery was a net positive, so they would (subjectively) claim that slaves were not oppressed. certainly, the slaves did not feel the same way.

EDIT: to further illustrate the subjectivity of oppression, consider if it were to be objective. nobody would ever disagree about when something is oppressive, and this topic would make no sense in the first place.
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white men are becoming more oppressed if anything
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Rika_Furude posted...

white men are becoming more oppressed if anything

That's almost a certainty considering not being oppressed at all is the starting point.
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Rika_Furude posted...

white men are becoming more oppressed if anything

Proof of why posters with anime children sigs are garbage
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the sjwised americans crying over facts as usual

just look torwards treatment of men vs women in the legal system

but you wont because facts burn you like water to the wicked witch
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Rika_Furude posted...

just look torwards treatment of men vs women in the legal system

People say this a lot. However judging by the men that are in prison, I have to wonder if a lot of the disparity comes from their behavior in court.

Isn't it possible that these guys act like idiots in court and the women are simply better behaved in court.
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Compared to countries where people are actually being oppressed? Like women/gays in the Middle East, or places where groups of people are actively facing genocide based on their race, religion, etc.

Things here in the west aren't perfect by any means, but after a certain point you are just looking for reasons to bitch about something. The fact that you can even complain freely and have so many platforms to do so goes to show that you aren't oppressed.
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Ultima Dragon posted...

Things here in the west aren't perfect by any means,

Tbh, they kind of are. There's not much more a government should be doing correctly than what ours already does.
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Howl posted...

Rika_Furude posted...

just look torwards treatment of men vs women in the legal system

People say this a lot. However judging by the men that are in prison, I have to wonder if a lot of the disparity comes from their behavior in court.

Isn't it possible that these guys act like idiots in court and the women are simply better behaved in court.

source?

dont spout random shit as fact
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Are you havin a laugh mate? Is he having a laugh?
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SoundNetwork posted...

Howl posted...

Rika_Furude posted...

just look torwards treatment of men vs women in the legal system

People say this a lot. However judging by the men that are in prison, I have to wonder if a lot of the disparity comes from their behavior in court.

Isn't it possible that these guys act like idiots in court and the women are simply better behaved in court.

source?

dont spout random shit as fact

I clearly was expressing that as an opinion. I know inmates because I'm a CO. I have nothing to cite for what was an obvious opinion of my own. I even said I have to wonder if to further communicate that it's just something I think is a possibility.
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Kineth posted...

Rika_Furude posted...

white men are becoming more oppressed if anything

That's almost a certainty considering not being oppressed at all is the starting point.

Apparently oppression is subjective...IMO I really think the only GROUP that is oppressed is non violent offenders. Everyone might be oppressed in certain ways, but it doesn't mean we are an oppressed people. It also isn't based on someone's perspective.
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byron posted...

Howl posted...

It's pretty disgusting how people honestly believe there are oppressed groups today in the greatest country ever to have existed.

Lmao

Overall...depends on the criteria.. Basically the first modern nation not founded under a religious text, it set a standard for individual liberty, and advanced the world technologically in amazing ways from the automobile to the internet.
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MARKINGRAM22 posted...

Apparently oppression is subjective

MARKINGRAM22 posted...

It also isn't based on someone's perspective.
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These two sentences contradict each other.
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TC is right. No group in the U.S. is oppressed. The only people who still throw around that term are using as an excuse for some form of underachievement.
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Straight white Christian cis male middle class conservative living in the south and employed as a police officer.
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Guys who got caught peeing behind a dumpster and put on the sex offenders list are oppressed.
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No one is really oppressed anymore