Board 8 > ~FIGHT!~ Sora/Kirby/Akuma/ Sonic/Potemkin vs. Shulk/Sorey/ Kefka/Terra vs Booker

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KanzarisKelshen
06/08/17 4:38:31 PM
#1:


Sora, Kirby, Akuma, Sonic and Potemkin have challenged Shulk, Sorey and Seraphim, Kefka, and Terra as well as Booker DeWitt to a fight! Location of the fight: Prison Terrace - The terrace of Prison Island as seen during the first visit to Prison Island. Access to the rest of Eryth Sea is not allowed, and Zanza/NPCs are not present. The interior of Prison Island cannot be accessed, though the immediate surrounding skies are accessible. Attackers will start at the bottom of the terrace, with defenders starting at the top of the steps. Which side will win?

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- The members of each team are ideal teammates capable of a pre-selected plan of battle.
- "Broken" refers to a lot of things, including insta-death, auto-effects, a variety of status effects (e.g., Imp, Silence, Stop, *not* Poison), and revival. Unless stated otherwise, nobody has them, though do use your own discretion.
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Sorey has called upon the Lord of the Land of Prison Terrace to provide boons to his team! Healing and regeneration effects on Sorey and his Seraphim, Shulk, Kefka, and Terra are doubled, and all incurable status effects have become curable.

Shulk is as he appears in Xenoblade Chronicles, with all arts and skill trees learned and fully upgraded. He is equipped with the Monado II and Glory set of armour.

Sorey is as he appears in Tales of Zestiria, with all orbs and talismans (though they buff only himself and his seraphim) and an endgame skill build. He enters the battle with 5 Blast Gauges and may armatize freely with his seraphim during the course of the battle, but armatization cannot be used to revive anyone. He does not have access to Siegfried. Sorey is unable to speak or cast magic.

Lailah, Mikleo, Edna and Dezel are accompanying Sorey into battle. They are as they appear in Tales of Zestiria, with an endgame skill build. They will enter battle with 5 Blast Gauges, and will be permanently invisible and inaudible to Shulk, Sora, Akuma, Sonic, Potemkin and Booker. Only one Seraphim may be on the battlefield at a time, with Lailah beginning on the battlefield, and the others dwelling inside him. He may swap between them as seen in the game, and inactive seraphim will heal gradually over time, including from death, but they are considered defeated once Sorey is killed.

Kefka is as he appears in FF6A in the last battle, having access to all attacks and skills from the fight aside from Trine and Heartless Angel. He additionally has all his Brave and HP attacks from Dissidia: Final Fantasy, as well as the Exhilarating Magic skill.
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KanzarisKelshen
06/08/17 4:38:51 PM
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Terra Branford is as she appears in Dissidia and at the end of FF6A, equipped with full Genji armour, Apocalypse, a Hero Ring, and a Gold Hairpin. She has all her natural magic, as well as those gained from Unicorn and Bahamut, including Raise. She does not, however, have Arise, Teleport, Break, Graviga, or Meltdown. She can enter Trance form at any time for 30 seconds (which also grants her access to EX mode), although it will go on cooldown for 2 minutes upon ending.


~VS~

Sora is as he appears in Kingdom Hearts 2 FM+ with his best non-broken equipment, and is able to use his Valor, Wisdom, Limit, and Master forms, though they aren't infinite, use the same gauge (starting with and limited to 5), and won't eat up an ally. He doesn't have Magnet, summons, limits (except in Limit form), any reaction commands, or invincibility.

Kirby is as seen in the Kirby Super Star and Smash series. He has full use of his Smash Brothers Moveset along with the moves from his sword, parasol, ice and Archer forms. (He has also inhaled Kefka, gaining a set of moves fitting each). He cannot inhale enemy fighters nor create helpers from his abilities during the match, but can inhale anything else and will not lose access to his forms due to taking damage. Kirby has been hit by Shulk's Back Slash.

Akuma is as he appears in the Street Fighter and Vs. series, with all of his moves, although he must charge supers before he can use them.

Sonic the Hedgehog is as he appears in the Sonic series and Smash 4 (minus game mechanics), in his base form at his canon levels. He does not have any emeralds, Chaos Control, or weird things like that.

Potemkin is as he appears in Guilty Gear Xrd, with access to all of his moves except gameplay mechanics (invincibility frames, etc). His instant kill won't necessarily kill everything in one shot.

~VS~

Booker DeWitt is as seen throughout BioShock Infinite, with access to all of his fully upgraded weaponry as well as all of his vigors save Possession and Return to Sender. Booker will fight as a neutral in battle, hostile to everyone (and is a valid choice as victor).

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KanzarisKelshen
06/08/17 4:39:58 PM
#3:


@greengravy294
@Johnbobb

The floor is yours.
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Arti
06/08/17 4:40:40 PM
#4:


kirby is dead

booker is useless alone

can the silence be cured due to the lord of the land effect? terra has esuna
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KanzarisKelshen
06/08/17 4:40:42 PM
#5:


Johnbobb's argument:

Sorey's a lil bitch.
fuck weak ass terra
Shulk's a fuckboy gtfo here with that
Sora swoop in like woooo
Kirby got arrows and magic what up
Kefka gets all pissed off at Kirby copying him so he's basically useless obviously
also Potemkin and Akuma like muscles fucking galore I mean come on
who else is on my team
uh
Sanic
way faster than like anyone here, so there's that
Did I miss anything?
Also 5v4 so that
that's like just more numbers, you do the math

Also watch this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIhgd-TLaQY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=3lLxrbx970w#t=432
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greengravy294
06/08/17 4:42:12 PM
#6:


Sorey can't cast magic but can have this ailment cured as stated in bold. Terra has Esuna. Pretty solid.

With Shulk's precog and Sorey and Seraphim frontlining, on an open air terrain like this Terra and Kefka's airborne status is very good. With a man who sees the future and Sorey providing distractions, Kefka and Terra can do some huge nuking.

Shulk won't have to worry about his magic casting back up for the most part so he can focus on Monado Arts that improve himself and Sorey. With Monado Speed lasting 12.5 seconds and Monado Armor at 15 seconds they can both evade and tank attacks far, far more effectively.

Tl;dr: Shulk and Sorey are incredibly formidable foes on land while Kefka and Terra are formidable in the sky. The only enemy mercs capable of reliably engaging Kefka and Terra is Sora who is probably not getting past the team of S&S&S (Shulk/Sorey/Seraphim) and Kirby who uh, got turbo sliced in the back by Shulk's Back Slash.
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greengravy294
06/08/17 4:42:47 PM
#7:


Arti posted...
can the silence be cured due to the lord of the land effect? terra has esuna

yes that was my INTENT <_<
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Gatarix
06/08/17 4:51:46 PM
#8:


Silence screws Sorey up pretty good because iirc he can't armatize (he needs to call out the seraph's ~true name~)

BUT Healing Air to the rescue! Sorey is oookay

Leaning Team Kefka because stronger overall and Shulk has his precog/shielding hax
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Arti
06/08/17 4:53:39 PM
#9:


oh ok

Team Shulk
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Johnbobb
06/08/17 4:54:10 PM
#10:


ok but have you considered that Sorey is actually a pile of trash?
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StealThisSheen
06/08/17 4:56:49 PM
#11:


Team Shulk
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Arti
06/08/17 4:56:57 PM
#12:


Johnbobb posted...
ok but have you considered that Sorey is actually a pile of trash?


yes. his game sucks too LOL
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Johnbobb
06/08/17 4:57:46 PM
#13:


Arti posted...
Johnbobb posted...
ok but have you considered that Sorey is actually a pile of trash?

yes. his game sucks too LOL

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Johnbobb
06/08/17 4:58:22 PM
#14:


Also how about

Booker solos

ever think about that huh?

dude's got like

several guns
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Dantezoid
06/08/17 4:59:35 PM
#15:


Booker has a pistol, he should learn from mccrae and shout it's hiiiiigh noon from the sidelines as the other two sides are fighting and one shot six people
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Johnbobb
06/08/17 5:00:58 PM
#16:


Dantezoid posted...
Booker has a pistol, he should learn from mccrae and shout it's hiiiiigh noon from the sidelines as the other two sides are fighting and one shot six people

who says he wouldn't do just that

hold on I got this give me ten minutes
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KanzarisKelshen
06/08/17 5:01:00 PM
#17:


Johnbobb posted...
ok but have you considered that Sorey is actually a pile of trash?


Sorey SOLOS

sorry man he carried my heavy ass to a championship I can't let my homeboy get so disrespected

(also the other team is legitimately amazing and this is basically a 4v4 between Sora Akuma Sonic and Potemkin and the other four on the enemy team. And that one's hard to see Team Sora winning even with Akuma being so legit in Tekken 7.)
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Lopen
06/08/17 5:06:41 PM
#18:


Small terrain Potemkin's team would win I think

I don't really wanna look up the terrain is the terrain small
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Gatarix
06/08/17 5:08:28 PM
#19:


I think it's small based on all the arguments last time ("ryu kills aeris before she can cast a spell")
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greengravy294
06/08/17 5:09:40 PM
#20:


Gatarix posted...
I think it's small based on all the arguments last time ("ryu kills aeris before she can cast a spell")

I think Kanz expanded the terrain actually. They start at the entrance and the defenders are where Zanza is.
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Lopen
06/08/17 5:10:15 PM
#21:


Potemkin is what I like to call a STRONG COUNTER to Kefka and Terra

They're flyin around castin their spells and then suddenly POTEMKIN BUSTAHHH

But it's moot if they're not actually close.
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KanzarisKelshen
06/08/17 5:12:16 PM
#22:


I think it shows up in this vid?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hzFS1DftRA

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greengravy294
06/08/17 5:12:55 PM
#23:


Well the terrain certainly doesn't have ryu kill aeris while she's casting now! Honestly I don't remember the entire segment besides that it's outdoors and a good terrain for my pal Kefka
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KanzarisKelshen
06/08/17 5:13:13 PM
#24:


greengravy294 posted...
Gatarix posted...
I think it's small based on all the arguments last time ("ryu kills aeris before she can cast a spell")

I think Kanz expanded the terrain actually. They start at the entrance and the defenders are where Zanza is.


Same size, I just clarified that both sides don't start at the same height atop the stairs.
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Johnbobb
06/08/17 5:13:19 PM
#25:


Johnbobb posted...
Dantezoid posted...
Booker has a pistol, he should learn from mccrae and shout it's hiiiiigh noon from the sidelines as the other two sides are fighting and one shot six people

who says he wouldn't do just that

hold on I got this give me ten minutes

p0N2UDD
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greengravy294
06/08/17 5:14:33 PM
#26:


KanzarisKelshen posted...
greengravy294 posted...
Gatarix posted...
I think it's small based on all the arguments last time ("ryu kills aeris before she can cast a spell")

I think Kanz expanded the terrain actually. They start at the entrance and the defenders are where Zanza is.


Same size, I just clarified that both sides don't start at the same height atop the stairs.

I don't even remember stairs
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Gatarix
06/08/17 5:15:28 PM
#27:


Johnbobb posted...
Johnbobb posted...
Dantezoid posted...
Booker has a pistol, he should learn from mccrae and shout it's hiiiiigh noon from the sidelines as the other two sides are fighting and one shot six people

who says he wouldn't do just that

hold on I got this give me ten minutes

p0N2UDD

this is a strong argument
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greengravy294
06/08/17 5:16:08 PM
#28:


KanzarisKelshen posted...
greengravy294 posted...
Gatarix posted...
I think it's small based on all the arguments last time ("ryu kills aeris before she can cast a spell")

I think Kanz expanded the terrain actually. They start at the entrance and the defenders are where Zanza is.


Same size, I just clarified that both sides don't start at the same height atop the stairs.

Hey man you're the one that edited all the terrains I figured you'd know exactly what it entails >_>
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KJH
06/08/17 5:29:56 PM
#29:


Team Shulk.

Kirby's dead, Sorey's silence is healed by Esuna, Shulk/Kefka/Sorey is OVERWHELMING POWER. Monado Speed would absolutely ruin Potemkin's chances at doing pretty much anything too, and Kefka's gonna be blasting magic from up high.
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Johnbobb
06/08/17 5:32:59 PM
#30:


KanzarisKelshen posted...
Archer forms. (He has also inhaled Kefka, gaining a set of moves fitting each)

still think these should be bolde
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Johnbobb
06/08/17 5:33:31 PM
#31:


y'all forgetting that this is Kefkirb
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Gatarix
06/08/17 5:35:25 PM
#32:


yeah kirby isn't glass, I don't see him dying to a single slash
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greengravy294
06/08/17 5:44:09 PM
#33:


Even if he isn't taken out by Back Slash, it forces Sora to heal his pal Kirby which is a rather 'not so good' way to start a fight tbqh
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KJH
06/08/17 6:00:52 PM
#34:


Gatarix posted...
yeah kirby isn't glass, I don't see him dying to a single slash

...Shulk one-shots mechs, in cutscene, multiple times. >_>

Like there's a difference between being made of glass and Kirby being more tanky than this mechon:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2vMllYljc0#t=0m40s

Which Shulk slices through like butter with the Monado II.
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Johnbobb
06/08/17 6:05:53 PM
#35:


KJH posted...
Gatarix posted...
yeah kirby isn't glass, I don't see him dying to a single slash

...Shulk one-shots mechs, in cutscene, multiple times. >_>

Like there's a difference between being made of glass and Kirby being more tanky than this mechon:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2vMllYljc0#t=0m40s

Which Shulk slices through like butter with the Monado II.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zhmsg42y6ZE

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Gatarix
06/08/17 6:08:19 PM
#36:


Isn't Shulk, like, super-effective against mechs in plot or something?
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Eddv
06/08/17 6:15:32 PM
#37:


booker dewitt

The man owns
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greengravy294
06/08/17 6:16:43 PM
#38:


He is, but the Monado II allows Homs (humans) to be damaged by the blade as well.
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Johnbobb
06/08/17 6:18:33 PM
#39:


Eddv posted...
booker dewitt
The man owns

Johnbobb posted...
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Lopen
06/08/17 6:24:47 PM
#40:


greengravy294 posted...
Monado II allows Homs (humans) to be damaged by the blade as well.


Where does Kirby fit into this.
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X_Dante_X
06/08/17 6:27:52 PM
#41:


monado can't harm beings from bionis at first, and then it can

so it can hurt everyone
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greengravy294
06/08/17 6:33:13 PM
#42:


i dunno man shulk kills wildlife in xenoblade too
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MenuWars
06/08/17 6:40:29 PM
#43:


Raging Demon
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Johnbobb
06/08/17 6:41:55 PM
#44:


MenuWars posted...
Raging Demon

gonna assume this is a nickname for Booker
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Eddv
06/08/17 6:44:50 PM
#45:


Unvote

Booker probably doesnt actually solo
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ZeeksFire
06/08/17 7:09:34 PM
#46:


Shulk

I think there isn't too much that can be done, Shulk really shines when he has effective backup, and this is effective people to work with indeed. And i'm always a proponent of trance ultima.
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HeroicGammaRay
06/08/17 7:22:40 PM
#47:


despite the unimpressive name back slash is actually a big nuke iirc - much stronger than a basic attack

anyway shulk
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Eddv
06/08/17 7:31:44 PM
#48:


Unfortunately kirby is probably dead.

Youve got great people for defending a great showcase piece.

But Sora isnt quite up to snuff.

Especially since Sorey/Shulk is a reallt solid combo. This is like a really top flight JRPG party here vs Sora with some strong defenders
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KanzarisKelshen
06/08/17 8:06:46 PM
#49:


Emphasis on 'really top flight', considering you have one guy who's a party-in-a-can, a very strong MC-kun, a pretty strong 5/week (for 30 seconds only, but still!) and a literal jRPG final boss.
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Gatarix
06/09/17 10:19:36 AM
#50:


HeroicGammaRay posted...
despite the unimpressive name back slash is actually a big nuke iirc - much stronger than a basic attack

oh okay

team sorey - basically what eddv said
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