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Clad
06/09/17 12:27:57 PM
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Questionmarktarius
06/09/17 12:32:17 PM
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This way of thinking has even led to law makers in Switzerland setting guidelines designed to protect "the dignity of plants" – whatever that means.

How long until "salad is a massacre!"...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ov5Jgw_Nwx4
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The Admiral
06/09/17 12:32:22 PM
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Plants, according to Jack C Schultz, "are just very slow animals".


Those disgusting vegans.
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Clad
06/09/17 12:32:46 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
This way of thinking has even led to law makers in Switzerland setting guidelines designed to protect "the dignity of plants" – whatever that means.

How long until "salad is a massacre!"...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ov5Jgw_Nwx4


Give peas a chance!
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Clad
06/09/17 12:33:01 PM
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The Admiral posted...
Plants, according to Jack C Schultz, "are just very slow animals".


Those disgusting vegans.


They are literally murdering our brothers and sisters. It's a genocide.
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Thompson
06/09/17 12:36:00 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cB2-JYACi4M

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Soviet_Shurima
06/09/17 12:36:48 PM
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@ASithLord7

your thoughts?
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moose_knuckle
06/09/17 12:37:13 PM
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LightHawKnight
06/09/17 12:37:27 PM
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So what do vegans eat now?
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Tryhaptaward
06/09/17 12:38:40 PM
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moose_knuckle posted...
This isn't common knowledge?
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Questionmarktarius
06/09/17 12:38:59 PM
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LightHawKnight posted...
So what do vegans eat now?

Fruits and seeds, probably.
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Vindris_SNH
06/09/17 12:39:52 PM
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chemical reactions =/= reasoning
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MJ_Max
06/09/17 12:39:53 PM
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If they're claiming plants have consciousness that's a bold claim.
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LightHawKnight
06/09/17 12:40:50 PM
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Vindris_SNH posted...
chemical reactions =/= reasoning


But why would a plant release chemicals at the sound of a caterpillar munching?
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YourDrunkFather
06/09/17 12:41:17 PM
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How long until the plant uprising?
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Questionmarktarius
06/09/17 12:41:20 PM
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Asherlee10 posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...
LightHawKnight posted...
So what do vegans eat now?

Fruits and seeds, probably.


Only fruits and vegetables that have naturally fallen from the plant, of course.

The only vegetables that do that would be fruit anyway.
Unless, of course, someone figures out how to cook autumn leaves.
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ASithLord7
06/09/17 12:44:59 PM
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Vindris_SNH posted...
chemical reactions =/= reasoning

Hey now don't let that logic get in the way of shitposting

Also if y'all wanna pretend to care about plants, more plants are consumed feeding livestock than if everyone ate vegan so lol. Stop being obsessed with me please.
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Inferno Dive Dragoon
06/09/17 12:46:36 PM
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LightHawKnight posted...
So what do vegans eat now?


Crow. Deliciously, rich in irony crow.
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Schwarber
06/09/17 12:48:17 PM
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Clad
06/09/17 12:51:26 PM
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ASithLord7 posted...
Hey now don't let that logic get in the way of s***posting


How is it logic? Animals and humans are essentially just chemical reactions too.
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Questionmarktarius
06/09/17 12:52:48 PM
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Clad posted...
ASithLord7 posted...
Hey now don't let that logic get in the way of s***posting


How is it logic? Animals and humans are essentially just chemical reactions too.

Metabolism itself is just a fire in extreme slow motion.
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Waluigi7
06/09/17 12:53:05 PM
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Nobody should be getting this upset over vegans.
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Clad
06/09/17 12:53:14 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Clad posted...
ASithLord7 posted...
Hey now don't let that logic get in the way of s***posting


How is it logic? Animals and humans are essentially just chemical reactions too.

Metabolism itself is just a fire in extreme slow motion.


So we're literally all arsonists.
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ASithLord7
06/09/17 12:53:37 PM
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Clad posted...
ASithLord7 posted...
Hey now don't let that logic get in the way of s***posting


How is it logic? Animals and humans are essentially just chemical reactions too.

You were just recently making fun of someone for comparing animal life to virus life, and now you're doing similar in this post. All life is chemical reactions. Sentience is something else entirely.
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Feline_Heart
06/09/17 12:54:40 PM
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LightHawKnight posted...
So what do vegans eat now?

Soil. It's rich with minerals
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Clad
06/09/17 12:54:47 PM
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ASithLord7 posted...
Clad posted...
ASithLord7 posted...
Hey now don't let that logic get in the way of s***posting


How is it logic? Animals and humans are essentially just chemical reactions too.

You were just recently making fun of someone for comparing animal life to virus life, and now you're doing similar in this post. All life is chemical reactions. Sentience is something else entirely.


Pretty sure sentience is also chemical reactions, fam.

Anyway, seems like plants are pretty much the same as some animals, like chickens.
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Haldol
06/09/17 12:56:27 PM
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Bbbut cruelty free eating!
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ASithLord7
06/09/17 12:57:34 PM
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Haldol posted...
Bbbut cruelty free eating!

Again, more plants are killed to feed livestock than if everyone ate vegan if youre so truly terribly concerned about plant lives
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ASithLord7
06/09/17 12:58:28 PM
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Waluigi7 posted...
Nobody should be getting this upset over vegans.

It's mindblowing to me that the same people who always complain about whiny pushy vegans constantly make topics complaining about them unprovoked, even feeling the need to tag me in for a reaction
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Clad
06/09/17 12:59:01 PM
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ASithLord7 posted...
Again, more plants are killed to feed livestock than if everyone ate vegan if youre so truly terribly concerned about plant lives


So are you agreeing that plants are alive in the same capacity that many animals have? How would that change your eating habits?
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Clad
06/09/17 12:59:30 PM
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ASithLord7 posted...
Waluigi7 posted...
Nobody should be getting this upset over vegans.

It's mindblowing to me that the same people who always complain about whiny pushy vegans constantly make topics complaining about them unprovoked, even feeling the need to tag me in for a reaction


You're the resident CE vegan. Stop taking these things so seriously, it's obviously for entertainment and maybe a sprinkling or two of seriousness. Give peas a chance.
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ASithLord7
06/09/17 12:59:40 PM
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Clad posted...
ASithLord7 posted...
Again, more plants are killed to feed livestock than if everyone ate vegan if youre so truly terribly concerned about plant lives


So are you agreeing that plants are alive in the same capacity that many animals have? How would that change your eating habits?

No, i'm saying if that's his position plants are still better to eat.
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Clad
06/09/17 1:00:05 PM
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ASithLord7 posted...
Clad posted...
ASithLord7 posted...
Again, more plants are killed to feed livestock than if everyone ate vegan if youre so truly terribly concerned about plant lives


So are you agreeing that plants are alive in the same capacity that many animals have? How would that change your eating habits?

No, i'm saying if that's his position plants are still better to eat.


So are you saying that plants are not alive in any meaningful sense?
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LightHawKnight
06/09/17 1:01:08 PM
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ASithLord7 posted...
Clad posted...
ASithLord7 posted...
Again, more plants are killed to feed livestock than if everyone ate vegan if youre so truly terribly concerned about plant lives


So are you agreeing that plants are alive in the same capacity that many animals have? How would that change your eating habits?

No, i'm saying if that's his position plants are still better to eat.


So, if for some reason Cows were the most eaten things on the planet, we should exclusively eat Cows?
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ASithLord7
06/09/17 1:01:35 PM
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LightHawKnight posted...
ASithLord7 posted...
Clad posted...
ASithLord7 posted...
Again, more plants are killed to feed livestock than if everyone ate vegan if youre so truly terribly concerned about plant lives


So are you agreeing that plants are alive in the same capacity that many animals have? How would that change your eating habits?

No, i'm saying if that's his position plants are still better to eat.


So, if for some reason Cows were the most eaten things on the planet, we should exclusively eat Cows?


...what
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infinitydev2020
06/09/17 1:01:45 PM
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that's cool, ain't gonna stop me from eating those things though. It's just the natural way of things.
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Clad
06/09/17 1:01:47 PM
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Asherlee10 posted...
I'll be honest, I've only met 1 smug vegan, but I've met tons of vegan-haters that are way more vocal.

I don't get it.


"I've only had this experience, therefore that's how it is."
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Clad
06/09/17 1:02:11 PM
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infinitydev2020 posted...
that's cool, ain't gonna stop me from eating those things though. It's just the natural way of things.


But we have supplements and medicines now. We don't need to slaughter innocent plants for human pleasure anymore.
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LightHawKnight
06/09/17 1:02:33 PM
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ASithLord7 posted...
LightHawKnight posted...
ASithLord7 posted...
Clad posted...
ASithLord7 posted...
Again, more plants are killed to feed livestock than if everyone ate vegan if youre so truly terribly concerned about plant lives


So are you agreeing that plants are alive in the same capacity that many animals have? How would that change your eating habits?

No, i'm saying if that's his position plants are still better to eat.


So, if for some reason Cows were the most eaten things on the planet, we should exclusively eat Cows?


...what


You said since plants are eaten the most by livestock, might as well eat those, cause they are already being eaten to such an extent. What if instead those were Cows being eaten to such an extent?
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weapon_d00d816
06/09/17 1:03:42 PM
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Plants are living beings that would very much like to stay alive or not have some asshole munch on its body (unless it produces fruit for the express purpose of animal consumption and excretion to spread its seeds).

The whole point of this article is that plants perceive the world in a different way and not necessarily in a "lesser" way.

Veganism and vegetarianism founded in morality have no logical basis. They simply draw the line arbitrarily further down the list. The only stance that possibly makes any sense is veganism founded in a boycott of the unethical practices in animal agriculture and the environmental impact of it. Or just "I don't like meat" and nothing further.
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ASithLord7
06/09/17 1:03:52 PM
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LightHawKnight posted...
ASithLord7 posted...
LightHawKnight posted...
ASithLord7 posted...
Clad posted...
ASithLord7 posted...
Again, more plants are killed to feed livestock than if everyone ate vegan if youre so truly terribly concerned about plant lives


So are you agreeing that plants are alive in the same capacity that many animals have? How would that change your eating habits?

No, i'm saying if that's his position plants are still better to eat.


So, if for some reason Cows were the most eaten things on the planet, we should exclusively eat Cows?


...what


You said since plants are eaten the most by livestock, might as well eat those, cause they are already being eaten to such an extent. What if instead those were Cows being eaten to such an extent?


No, i'm saying less plants would be eaten if everyone ate purely plant-based. More plants are used to feed meat than to feed humans.
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Clad
06/09/17 1:04:51 PM
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ASithLord7 posted...
No, i'm saying less plants would be eaten if everyone ate purely plant-based. More plants are used to feed meat than to feed humans.


Less plants would be eaten if everyone ate more chickens, too. :V
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Feline_Heart
06/09/17 1:08:41 PM
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Asherlee10 posted...
Clad posted...
Asherlee10 posted...
I'll be honest, I've only met 1 smug vegan, but I've met tons of vegan-haters that are way more vocal.

I don't get it.


"I've only had this experience, therefore that's how it is."


Don't be obtuse. I never suggested that my perspective was universal. It is a comment on my perspective.

I've only met one vegan in my life and he was the most smug person I've ever met
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Clad
06/09/17 1:08:51 PM
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Asherlee10 posted...
Clad posted...
Asherlee10 posted...
I'll be honest, I've only met 1 smug vegan, but I've met tons of vegan-haters that are way more vocal.

I don't get it.


"I've only had this experience, therefore that's how it is."


Don't be obtuse. I never suggested that my perspective was universal. It is a comment on my perspective.


Yeah, but your last comment about not getting it made for some easy jimmy rustling. I mean, what is there not to get? If all you're sharing is your own perspective, there's nothing to not get. :V
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Spidey5
06/09/17 1:13:01 PM
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Damn vegans
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