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HogRiderreturns 06/09/17 9:17:06 PM #51:	uwnim posted... Genetics do not determine gender. They kind of do. --- http://i.imgur.com/wuFm3hd.jpg - My Hash Brownies. http://i.imgur.com/mQ7syoS.gif http://i.imgur.com/lY3erBp.jpg <cite>HogRiderreturns posted [p:880752760] in How many g... [t:75441001]...</cite> <quote><cite>uwnim posted...</cite> <quote>Genetics do not determine gender. </quote> They kind of do.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GiftedACIII 06/09/17 9:19:44 PM #52:	uwnim posted... HogRiderreturns posted... uwnim posted... Once castrated, they were no longer considered to be male. Their genetics say otherwise. Genetics do not determine gender. Culture does. What you are saying is entirely true for our culture, but it isn't an absolute truth. People cannot just choose to invent new genders however, for one to be valid, it must be seen as something distinct by society as a whole. No, your brain does. So you're saying if suddenly you were thrust into an opposite society where all gender roles were reversed you suddenly become a girl? I guess tomboys and lesbians are actually men then even when they themselves identify as women. Your logic is even more preposterous than people saying they're multi-gender and switch between them intermittently. --- </topic> <cite>GiftedACIII posted [p:880752902] in How many g... [t:75441001]...</cite> <quote><cite>uwnim posted...</cite> <quote><cite>HogRiderreturns posted...</cite> <quote><cite>uwnim posted...</cite> <quote>Once castrated, they were no longer considered to be male.</quote> Their genetics say otherwise.</quote> Genetics do not determine gender. Culture does. What you are saying is entirely true for our culture, but it isn't an absolute truth. People cannot just choose to invent new genders however, for one to be valid, it must be seen as something distinct by society as a whole.</quote> No, your brain does. So you're saying if suddenly you were thrust into an opposite society where all gender roles were reversed you suddenly become a girl? I guess tomboys and lesbians are actually men then even when they themselves identify as women. Your logic is even more preposterous than people saying they're multi-gender and switch between them intermittently.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nomadic View 06/09/17 9:20:26 PM #53:	2 --- {}\\{}(o){}\\//{}//=\\{})){}(< \\//{}{{-{}//\\{} {}xxxxxxxx{};;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;> <cite>Nomadic View posted [p:880752946] in How many g... [t:75441001]...</cite> <quote>2</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Crazyman93 06/09/17 9:21:53 PM #54:	Two. Everything else is the result of a birth defect or mental disorder. uwnim posted... People seem to be forgetting eunuch. That one is definitely a valid gender and has been recognized for thousands of years. Not a gender. It's the result of having your penis lopped off by someone else. So you're still male. --- let's lubricate friction material! ~nickels, Cars & Trucks <cite>Crazyman93 posted [p:880753004] in How many g... [t:75441001]...</cite> <quote>Two. Everything else is the result of a birth defect or mental disorder. <cite>uwnim posted...</cite> <quote>People seem to be forgetting eunuch. That one is definitely a valid gender and has been recognized for thousands of years.</quote> Not a gender. It's the result of having your penis lopped off by someone else. So you're still male.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
REMercsChamp 06/09/17 9:22:31 PM #55:	There's male, female, transgender, gender neutral, gender fluid, agender, bigender and trigender --- https://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/35939727.jpg <cite>REMercsChamp posted [p:880753038] in How many g... [t:75441001]...</cite> <quote>There's male, female, transgender, gender neutral, gender fluid, agender, bigender and trigender</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sami1000 06/09/17 9:24:21 PM #56:	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2T3131D52fc --- What's cooler than werewolf? Wereman! <cite>Sami1000 posted [p:880753141] in How many g... [t:75441001]...</cite> <quote> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2T3131D52fc</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sami1000 06/09/17 9:29:45 PM #57:	Medz1986 posted... Why is science is right about evolution yet is wrong about only two genders? Because some people can't accept that there's something possibly wrong in them and they can't figure out what it is. So, instead of self studying or accepting what they are, their narcissim makes them create so many different made up bullshit genders that they are bound to have just one unique one for themselves. Now, they can grow their narcissim to a new level by acting like special snowflake. --- What's cooler than werewolf? Wereman! <cite>Sami1000 posted [p:880753430] in How many g... [t:75441001]...</cite> <quote><cite>Medz1986 posted...</cite> <quote>Why is science is right about evolution yet is wrong about only two genders?</quote> Because some people can't accept that there's something possibly wrong in them and they can't figure out what it is. So, instead of self studying or accepting what they are, their narcissim makes them create so many different made up bullshit genders that they are bound to have just one unique one for themselves. Now, they can grow their narcissim to a new level by acting like special snowflake.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
averagejoel 06/09/17 9:41:18 PM #58:	Sami1000 posted... Medz1986 posted... Why is science is right about evolution yet is wrong about only two genders? Because some people can't accept that there's something possibly wrong in them and they can't figure out what it is. So, instead of self studying or accepting what they are, their narcissim makes them create so many different made up bullshit genders that they are bound to have just one unique one for themselves. Now, they can grow their narcissim to a new level by acting like special snowflake. science doesn't say that there's only two genders https://www.nature.com/news/sex-redefined-1.16943 --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:880754060] in How many g... [t:75441001]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sami1000 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Medz1986 posted...</cite> <quote>Why is science is right about evolution yet is wrong about only two genders?</quote> Because some people can't accept that there's something possibly wrong in them and they can't figure out what it is. So, instead of self studying or accepting what they are, their narcissim makes them create so many different made up bullshit genders that they are bound to have just one unique one for themselves. Now, they can grow their narcissim to a new level by acting like special snowflake.</quote> science doesn't say that there's only two genders https://www.nature.com/news/sex-redefined-1.16943</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
uwnim 06/09/17 9:42:02 PM #59:	GiftedACIII posted... No, your brain does. So you're saying if suddenly you were thrust into an opposite society where all gender roles were reversed you suddenly become a girl? I guess tomboys and lesbians are actually men then even when they themselves identify as women. Your logic is even more preposterous than people saying they're multi-gender and switch between them intermittently. In such a society I would still be considered a male. A perfectly opposite set of gender roles would result in the same gendering as we use, the difference would be in what is considered the norm. Not sure what you are trying to say with the tomboy and lesbian part. Our society does consider them to be female, so reality is consistent with my logic here. To make the culture change actually interesting you would need the two to have different numbers of genders. Like say a person from a non-gendered society being placed in one like ours. --- I want a pet Lavos Spawn. [Order of the Cetaceans: Phocoena dioptrica] <cite>uwnim posted [p:880754094] in How many g... [t:75441001]...</cite> <quote><cite>GiftedACIII posted...</cite> <quote> No, your brain does. So you're saying if suddenly you were thrust into an opposite society where all gender roles were reversed you suddenly become a girl? I guess tomboys and lesbians are actually men then even when they themselves identify as women. Your logic is even more preposterous than people saying they're multi-gender and switch between them intermittently.</quote> In such a society I would still be considered a male. A perfectly opposite set of gender roles would result in the same gendering as we use, the difference would be in what is considered the norm. Not sure what you are trying to say with the tomboy and lesbian part. Our society does consider them to be female, so reality is consistent with my logic here. To make the culture change actually interesting you would need the two to have different numbers of genders. Like say a person from a non-gendered society being placed in one like ours.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PIITB415 06/09/17 9:43:21 PM #60:	Azardea posted... NOM posted... BillyKidd posted... 2 HogRiderreturns posted... Two. Penis or vagina. Nightmare_Luna posted... 2 TheBiggerWiggle posted... Two: Male Female --- http://i.imgur.com/VawbBVM.gif http://i.imgur.com/6Si4h.gif <cite>PIITB415 posted [p:880754170] in How many g... [t:75441001]...</cite> <quote><cite>Azardea posted...</cite> <quote><cite>NOM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BillyKidd posted...</cite> <quote>2</quote> <cite>HogRiderreturns posted...</cite> <quote>Two. Penis or vagina.</quote> <cite>Nightmare_Luna posted...</cite> <quote>2</quote> <cite>TheBiggerWiggle posted...</cite> <quote>Two: Male Female</quote></quote></quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DifferentialEquation 06/09/17 9:52:46 PM #62:	Spooking posted... Two. We were taught this in elementary school. Do we need a refresher on 2+2 as well? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QamU4-8NUw --- "If the day does not require an AK, it is good." The Great Warrior Poet, Ice Cube <cite>DifferentialEquation posted [p:880754744] in How many g... [t:75441001]...</cite> <quote><cite>Spooking posted...</cite> <quote>Two. We were taught this in elementary school. Do we need a refresher on 2+2 as well?</quote> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QamU4-8NUw</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheBiggerWiggle 06/09/17 9:53:52 PM #63:	GiftedACIII posted... TheBiggerWiggle posted... Five: Male Female MtF Ftm Gender Fluid Mtf and ftm are both still female and male respectively. Genderfluid are just people being snowflakes Fair enough. I still think there should be a distinction IMO --- I have trouble concentrating because I have 80HD. <cite>TheBiggerWiggle posted [p:880754809] in How many g... [t:75441001]...</cite> <quote><cite>GiftedACIII posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheBiggerWiggle posted...</cite> <quote>Five: Male Female MtF Ftm Gender Fluid</quote> Mtf and ftm are both still female and male respectively. Genderfluid are just people being snowflakes</quote> Fair enough. I still think there should be a distinction IMO</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PinkiePie462 06/09/17 9:57:09 PM #64:	There are only 2 + Other <cite>PinkiePie462 posted [p:880754998] in How many g... [t:75441001]...</cite> <quote>There are only 2 + Other</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HokagoTeaTime 06/09/17 10:06:41 PM #65:	2 socially constructed, hierarchical genders --- https://discord.me/cancercontainment http://www.last.fm/user/birdweasel <cite>HokagoTeaTime posted [p:880755516] in How many g... [t:75441001]...</cite> <quote>2 socially constructed, hierarchical genders</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GiftedACIII 06/09/17 10:10:39 PM #66:	uwnim posted... GiftedACIII posted... No, your brain does. So you're saying if suddenly you were thrust into an opposite society where all gender roles were reversed you suddenly become a girl? I guess tomboys and lesbians are actually men then even when they themselves identify as women. Your logic is even more preposterous than people saying they're multi-gender and switch between them intermittently. In such a society I would still be considered a male. A perfectly opposite set of gender roles would result in the same gendering as we use, the difference would be in what is considered the norm. Not sure what you are trying to say with the tomboy and lesbian part. Our society does consider them to be female, so reality is consistent with my logic here. To make the culture change actually interesting you would need the two to have different numbers of genders. Like say a person from a non-gendered society being placed in one like ours. Not if their culture decides that gender roles=gender, at least according to your weird logic. Our society considers them female because we don't use the "gender norms decide gender" logic. I mean, it's stupid. A guy gets castrated. That doesn't change their gender any more than you being thrust into a culture where everything is reversed. Just because they were now expected to act differently in that culture doesn't mean it's a whole new gender. --- </topic> <cite>GiftedACIII posted [p:880755727] in How many g... [t:75441001]...</cite> <quote><cite>uwnim posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GiftedACIII posted...</cite> <quote> No, your brain does. So you're saying if suddenly you were thrust into an opposite society where all gender roles were reversed you suddenly become a girl? I guess tomboys and lesbians are actually men then even when they themselves identify as women. Your logic is even more preposterous than people saying they're multi-gender and switch between them intermittently.</quote> In such a society I would still be considered a male. A perfectly opposite set of gender roles would result in the same gendering as we use, the difference would be in what is considered the norm. Not sure what you are trying to say with the tomboy and lesbian part. Our society does consider them to be female, so reality is consistent with my logic here. To make the culture change actually interesting you would need the two to have different numbers of genders. Like say a person from a non-gendered society being placed in one like ours.</quote> Not if their culture decides that gender roles=gender, at least according to your weird logic. Our society considers them female because we don't use the "gender norms decide gender" logic. I mean, it's stupid. A guy gets castrated. That doesn't change their gender any more than you being thrust into a culture where everything is reversed. Just because they were now expected to act differently in that culture doesn't mean it's a whole new gender.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
armandro 06/10/17 12:12:45 AM #67:	is everyone gonna ignore my post D: --- http://i.imgur.com/sKghEcP.gif 8 October, 2023 <cite>armandro posted [p:880762297] in How many g... [t:75441001]...</cite> <quote>is everyone gonna ignore my post D:</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GiftedACIII 06/10/17 12:13:24 AM #68:	armandro posted... is everyone gonna ignore my post D: Because it's not. Gender roles is a social construct. Don't mix them up. --- </topic> <cite>GiftedACIII posted [p:880762326] in How many g... [t:75441001]...</cite> <quote><cite>armandro posted...</cite> <quote>is everyone gonna ignore my post D:</quote> Because it's not. Gender roles is a social construct. Don't mix them up.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AmonAmarth 06/10/17 12:14:03 AM #69:	two --- i7-4790@ 3.6GHZ \| GA-Z97-HD3 \| ASUS GTX 960 2GB \| Samsung 850 EVO 250GB \| 1TB HDD \| CX750M \| 12GB DDR3 <cite>AmonAmarth posted [p:880762359] in How many g... [t:75441001]...</cite> <quote>two</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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armandro 06/10/17 12:15:18 AM #71:	GiftedACIII posted... armandro posted... is everyone gonna ignore my post D: Because it's not. Gender roles is a social construct. Don't mix them up. is there a difference between gender and gender roles? --- http://i.imgur.com/sKghEcP.gif 8 October, 2023 <cite>armandro posted [p:880762419] in How many g... [t:75441001]...</cite> <quote><cite>GiftedACIII posted...</cite> <quote><cite>armandro posted...</cite> <quote>is everyone gonna ignore my post D:</quote> Because it's not. Gender roles is a social construct. Don't mix them up.</quote> is there a difference between gender and gender roles?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Medz1986 06/10/17 12:18:56 AM #72:	JustMyOpinion posted... How many stars are there in the sky? More than two <cite>Medz1986 posted [p:880762600] in How many g... [t:75441001]...</cite> <quote><cite>JustMyOpinion posted...</cite> <quote>How many stars are there in the sky?</quote> More than two</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GiftedACIII 06/10/17 12:21:34 AM #73:	armandro posted... GiftedACIII posted... armandro posted... is everyone gonna ignore my post D: Because it's not. Gender roles is a social construct. Don't mix them up. is there a difference between gender and gender roles? It's in the names. Gender is the brain. Gender roles are what a specific culture/society says is the norm for the gender and what roles they should play. --- </topic> <cite>GiftedACIII posted [p:880762714] in How many g... [t:75441001]...</cite> <quote><cite>armandro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GiftedACIII posted...</cite> <quote><cite>armandro posted...</cite> <quote>is everyone gonna ignore my post D:</quote> Because it's not. Gender roles is a social construct. Don't mix them up.</quote> is there a difference between gender and gender roles?</quote> It's in the names. Gender is the brain. Gender roles are what a specific culture/society says is the norm for the gender and what roles they should play.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Soviet_Shurima 06/10/17 12:22:26 AM #74:	you figure you know me cuz imma thug that like to hit the club late night buzzed --- I am Microwaved_Eggs "CE has also complained before" - Terra-enforcer <cite>Soviet_Shurima posted [p:880762755] in How many g... [t:75441001]...</cite> <quote>you figure you know me cuz imma thug that like to hit the club late night buzzed</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
weapon_d00d816 06/10/17 12:25:42 AM #75:	2 Any other gender is just a combination of these two in some way, or a lack of either. There is no unique gender other than male or female. --- SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SlG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SlG <cite>weapon_d00d816 posted [p:880762880] in How many g... [t:75441001]...</cite> <quote>2 Any other gender is just a combination of these two in some way, or a lack of either. There is no unique gender other than male or female.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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1dile_m 06/10/17 12:33:33 AM #77:	HogRiderreturns posted... Two. Penis or vagina. That's actually sex. Wow! How old are you? --- "Repeating something wonderful might be the best way to show you are unrepeatable." <cite>1dile_m posted [p:880763223] in How many g... [t:75441001]...</cite> <quote><cite>HogRiderreturns posted...</cite> <quote>Two. Penis or vagina.</quote>That's actually sex. Wow! How old are you?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Soviet_Shurima 06/10/17 12:33:48 AM #78:	DuranOfForcena posted... member 3pac --- I am Microwaved_Eggs "CE has also complained before" - Terra-enforcer <cite>Soviet_Shurima posted [p:880763233] in How many g... [t:75441001]...</cite> <quote><cite>DuranOfForcena posted...</cite> <quote></quote> member 3pac</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_Krave_ 06/10/17 12:39:32 AM #79:	2. --- Am I seducing or being seduced? <cite>_Krave_ posted [p:880763495] in How many g... [t:75441001]...</cite> <quote>2.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
armandro 06/10/17 12:40:20 AM #80:	GiftedACIII posted... armandro posted... GiftedACIII posted... armandro posted... is everyone gonna ignore my post D: Because it's not. Gender roles is a social construct. Don't mix them up. is there a difference between gender and gender roles? It's in the names. Gender is the brain. Gender roles are what a specific culture/society says is the norm for the gender and what roles they should play. WHAT? gender is in the brain??? what do you compare it to? --- http://i.imgur.com/sKghEcP.gif 8 October, 2023 <cite>armandro posted [p:880763532] in How many g... [t:75441001]...</cite> <quote><cite>GiftedACIII posted...</cite> <quote><cite>armandro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GiftedACIII posted...</cite> <quote><cite>armandro posted...</cite> <quote>is everyone gonna ignore my post D:</quote> Because it's not. Gender roles is a social construct. Don't mix them up.</quote> is there a difference between gender and gender roles?</quote> It's in the names. Gender is the brain. Gender roles are what a specific culture/society says is the norm for the gender and what roles they should play.</quote> WHAT? gender is in the brain??? what do you compare it to?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
1dile_m 06/10/17 12:43:47 AM #81:	GiftedACIII is talking out of his ass. Gender is socially constructed. Talking bout "gender is in the brain", LOL where do you people come from? --- "Repeating something wonderful might be the best way to show you are unrepeatable." <cite>1dile_m posted [p:880763686] in How many g... [t:75441001]...</cite> <quote>GiftedACIII is talking out of his ass. Gender is socially constructed. Talking bout "gender is in the brain", LOL where do you people come from?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GiftedACIII 06/10/17 12:47:39 AM #82:	armandro posted... GiftedACIII posted... armandro posted... GiftedACIII posted... armandro posted... is everyone gonna ignore my post D: Because it's not. Gender roles is a social construct. Don't mix them up. is there a difference between gender and gender roles? It's in the names. Gender is the brain. Gender roles are what a specific culture/society says is the norm for the gender and what roles they should play. WHAT? gender is in the brain??? what do you compare it to? Gender is your identity and everything identity comes from the brain. I'm not sure what you're not getting. http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2017/04/study-finds-significant-differences-brains-men-and-women 1dile_m posted... GiftedACIII is talking out of his ass. Gender is socially constructed. Talking bout "gender is in the brain", LOL where do you people come from? You're mixing up gender with gender roles. You're the type of guy who thinks someone can identify as a tiger or change genders like clothing aren't you? --- </topic> <cite>GiftedACIII posted [p:880763858] in How many g... [t:75441001]...</cite> <quote><cite>armandro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GiftedACIII posted...</cite> <quote><cite>armandro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GiftedACIII posted...</cite> <quote><cite>armandro posted...</cite> <quote>is everyone gonna ignore my post D:</quote> Because it's not. Gender roles is a social construct. Don't mix them up.</quote> is there a difference between gender and gender roles?</quote> It's in the names. Gender is the brain. Gender roles are what a specific culture/society says is the norm for the gender and what roles they should play.</quote> WHAT? gender is in the brain??? what do you compare it to?</quote> Gender is your identity and everything identity comes from the brain. I'm not sure what you're not getting. http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2017/04/study-finds-significant-differences-brains-men-and-women <cite>1dile_m posted...</cite> <quote>GiftedACIII is talking out of his ass. Gender is socially constructed. Talking bout "gender is in the brain", LOL where do you people come from?</quote> You're mixing up gender with gender roles. You're the type of guy who thinks someone can identify as a tiger or change genders like clothing aren't you?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
armandro 06/10/17 12:50:57 AM #83:	Gifted. I think you're confusing sex with gender. --- http://i.imgur.com/sKghEcP.gif 8 October, 2023 <cite>armandro posted [p:880763992] in How many g... [t:75441001]...</cite> <quote>Gifted. I think you're confusing sex with gender.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 06/10/17 12:52:23 AM #84:	2 --- http://www.imgur.com/oQHLBrx.jpg http://www.imgur.com/ah5IE8D.jpg http://www.imgur.com/USV84z9.jpg http://www.imgur.com/PSjlohO.jpg <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:880764052] in How many g... [t:75441001]...</cite> <quote>2</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 06/10/17 12:53:14 AM #85:	armandro posted... Gifted. I think you're confusing sex with gender. sex and gender are both biological --- http://www.imgur.com/oQHLBrx.jpg http://www.imgur.com/ah5IE8D.jpg http://www.imgur.com/USV84z9.jpg http://www.imgur.com/PSjlohO.jpg <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:880764089] in How many g... [t:75441001]...</cite> <quote><cite>armandro posted...</cite> <quote>Gifted. I think you're confusing sex with gender.</quote> sex and gender are both biological</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GiftedACIII 06/10/17 12:53:30 AM #86:	armandro posted... Gifted. I think you're confusing sex with gender. Scientifically, gender is just the sex of the brain. You need to not mix up gender and gender roles. Also, not think crazy nonsense like armandro posted... assuming gender is a social construct then its really hard to tell. the possibilities are infinite as of now I dont know how many genders we have --- </topic> <cite>GiftedACIII posted [p:880764105] in How many g... [t:75441001]...</cite> <quote><cite>armandro posted...</cite> <quote>Gifted. I think you're confusing sex with gender.</quote> Scientifically, gender is just the sex of the brain. You need to not mix up gender and gender roles. Also, not think crazy nonsense like <cite>armandro posted...</cite> <quote>assuming gender is a social construct then its really hard to tell. the possibilities are infinite as of now I dont know how many genders we have </quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
armandro 06/10/17 1:02:36 AM #87:	so gender roles cant be infinite? i mean you said yourself those are a social construct. --- http://i.imgur.com/sKghEcP.gif 8 October, 2023 <cite>armandro posted [p:880764470] in How many g... [t:75441001]...</cite> <quote>so gender roles cant be infinite? i mean you said yourself those are a social construct.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dash_Harber 06/10/17 1:03:20 AM #88:	Depends on the context of the question. Equivocation is a bullshit fallacy, bro. <cite>Dash_Harber posted [p:880764506] in How many g... [t:75441001]...</cite> <quote>Depends on the context of the question. Equivocation is a bullshit fallacy, bro.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Arcanine2009 06/10/17 1:03:38 AM #89:	TheBiggerWiggle posted... Five: Male Female MtF Ftm Gender Fluid you forgot twin spirits --- Less is more. Everything you want, isn't everything you need. <cite>Arcanine2009 posted [p:880764513] in How many g... [t:75441001]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheBiggerWiggle posted...</cite> <quote>Five: Male Female MtF Ftm Gender Fluid</quote> you forgot twin spirits</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Arcanine2009 06/10/17 1:05:58 AM #90:	Rika_Furude posted... armandro posted... Gifted. I think you're confusing sex with gender. sex and gender are both biological Take an anthropology class bo. Your Sex is based on your sex chromosomes, and gender is based on the role that your society has created and assigned to you based on your sex chromosomes at birth --- Less is more. Everything you want, isn't everything you need. <cite>Arcanine2009 posted [p:880764618] in How many g... [t:75441001]...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote><cite>armandro posted...</cite> <quote>Gifted. I think you're confusing sex with gender.</quote> sex and gender are both biological</quote> Take an anthropology class bo. Your Sex is based on your sex chromosomes, and gender is based on the role that your society has created and assigned to you based on your sex chromosomes at birth</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
armandro 06/10/17 1:07:51 AM #91:	Arcanine2009 posted... Rika_Furude posted... armandro posted... Gifted. I think you're confusing sex with gender. sex and gender are both biological Take an anthropology class bo. Your Sex is based on your sex chromosomes, and gender is based on the role that your society has created and assigned to you based on your sex chromosomes at birth So how many genders would you say exist? --- http://i.imgur.com/sKghEcP.gif 8 October, 2023 <cite>armandro posted [p:880764696] in How many g... [t:75441001]...</cite> <quote><cite>Arcanine2009 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote><cite>armandro posted...</cite> <quote>Gifted. I think you're confusing sex with gender.</quote> sex and gender are both biological</quote> Take an anthropology class bo. Your Sex is based on your sex chromosomes, and gender is based on the role that your society has created and assigned to you based on your sex chromosomes at birth</quote> So how many genders would you say exist?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GiftedACIII 06/10/17 1:14:20 AM #92:	armandro posted... so gender roles cant be infinite? i mean you said yourself those are a social construct. I suppose gender roles can be. Gender itself isn't. Mixing gender and gender roles together and pushing gender as a whole as being a social construct is just something science-defying that radical feminists pushed anyway. Arcanine2009 posted... Rika_Furude posted... armandro posted... Gifted. I think you're confusing sex with gender. sex and gender are both biological Take an anthropology class bo. Your Sex is based on your sex chromosomes, and gender is based on the role that your society has created and assigned to you based on your sex chromosomes at birth Nope, those are gender roles. Gender itself is biological. The fact that tomboys, extremely masculine women, and extremely feminine men who are secure in their gender identity exist destroys that theory. If someone was thrusted into a culture with completely opposite gender roles they would not suddenly change genders. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Reimer --- </topic> <cite>GiftedACIII posted [p:880764938] in How many g... [t:75441001]...</cite> <quote><cite>armandro posted...</cite> <quote>so gender roles cant be infinite? i mean you said yourself those are a social construct.</quote> I suppose gender roles can be. Gender itself isn't. Mixing gender and gender roles together and pushing gender as a whole as being a social construct is just something science-defying that radical feminists pushed anyway. <cite>Arcanine2009 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote><cite>armandro posted...</cite> <quote>Gifted. I think you're confusing sex with gender.</quote> sex and gender are both biological</quote> Take an anthropology class bo. Your Sex is based on your sex chromosomes, and gender is based on the role that your society has created and assigned to you based on your sex chromosomes at birth</quote> Nope, those are gender roles. Gender itself is biological. The fact that tomboys, extremely masculine women, and extremely feminine men who are secure in their gender identity exist destroys that theory. If someone was thrusted into a culture with completely opposite gender roles they would not suddenly change genders. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Reimer</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DocileOrangeCup 06/10/17 1:16:10 AM #93:	3 Man Woman The wrestler known as Vito --- https://i.imgtc.com/usDFlRA.jpg https://i.imgtc.com/GSrk8Nh.jpg https://i.imgtc.com/yo9VSX9.jpg https://i.imgtc.com/Sh3lG7g.jpg http://gamefaqs.com/boards/1377 <cite>DocileOrangeCup posted [p:880765005] in How many g... [t:75441001]...</cite> <quote>3 Man Woman The wrestler known as Vito</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
armandro 06/10/17 1:38:12 AM #94:	Yeah, thats why i said assuming gender is a social construct. because a lot of people say gender is a social construct. but you're right, if you wanna be more specific it should be gender roles. --- http://i.imgur.com/sKghEcP.gif 8 October, 2023 <cite>armandro posted [p:880765756] in How many g... [t:75441001]...</cite> <quote>Yeah, thats why i said assuming gender is a social construct. because a lot of people say gender is a social construct. but you're right, if you wanna be more specific it should be gender roles.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
1dile_m 06/10/17 1:39:42 AM #95:	GiftedACIII posted... 1. You're mixing up gender with gender roles. You're the type of guy who thinks someone can identify as a tiger or change genders like clothing aren't you? 1. Uh, they're the same. You're yet to show me how they differ. You previously said "Gender is in the brain", what exactly does that mean? Gender refers to the socially constructed characteristics of women and men – such as norms, roles and relationships of and between groups of women and men. It varies from society to society and can be changed. That's the World Health Organization's(WHO) definition of Gender, and it clearly falsifies your claim about gender being in the brain(wat???). And as for that study you posted: The study didn’t account for whether participants’ gender matched their biological designation as male or female. From the study YOU posted. That may have played some role in the sex differences noted in the study, she says. Also from the study you posted. Notice how it says "sex differences" and not "gender differences". It doesn't, at all, support any of your claims. You didn't think anyone would actually read that study, did you? --- "Repeating something wonderful might be the best way to show you are unrepeatable." <cite>1dile_m posted [p:880765803] in How many g... [t:75441001]...</cite> <quote><cite>GiftedACIII posted...</cite> <quote>1. You're mixing up gender with gender roles. You're the type of guy who thinks someone can identify as a tiger or change genders like clothing aren't you?</quote>1. Uh, they're the same. You're yet to show me how they differ. You previously said "Gender is in the brain", what exactly does that mean? Gender refers to the socially constructed characteristics of women and men – such as norms, roles and relationships of and between groups of women and men. It varies from society to society and can be changed. That's the World Health Organization's(WHO) definition of Gender, and it clearly falsifies your claim about gender being in the brain(wat???). And as for that study you posted: The study didn’t account for whether participants’ gender matched their biological designation as male or female. From the study YOU posted. That may have played some role in the sex differences noted in the study, she says. Also from the study you posted. Notice how it says "sex differences" and not "gender differences". It doesn't, at all, support any of your claims. You didn't think anyone would actually read that study, did you?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AugustAdoulin 06/10/17 1:40:06 AM #96:	GiftedACIII posted... Nope, those are gender roles. Gender itself is biological. The fact that tomboys, extremely masculine women, and extremely feminine men who are secure in their gender identity exist destroys that theory. If someone was thrusted into a culture with completely opposite gender roles they would not suddenly change genders. There is nothing at all in our DNA that associates gender and sex. It just doesn't exist. Our biological sex came first and society developed concepts based on sex that became the genders we know. If you took a boy and raised them as a girl they wouldn't know the difference until someone else told them. :v There are real life instances of this happening. --- http://i.imgur.com/oxJUXM4.jpg <cite>AugustAdoulin posted [p:880765817] in How many g... [t:75441001]...</cite> <quote><cite>GiftedACIII posted...</cite> <quote> Nope, those are gender roles. Gender itself is biological. The fact that tomboys, extremely masculine women, and extremely feminine men who are secure in their gender identity exist destroys that theory. If someone was thrusted into a culture with completely opposite gender roles they would not suddenly change genders. </quote> There is nothing at all in our DNA that associates gender and sex. It just doesn't exist. Our biological sex came first and society developed concepts based on sex that became the genders we know. If you took a boy and raised them as a girl they wouldn't know the difference until someone else told them. :v There are real life instances of this happening.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
1dile_m 06/10/17 1:50:52 AM #97:	AugustAdoulin posted... There is nothing at all in our DNA that associates gender and sex. It just doesn't exist. Our biological sex came first and society developed concepts based on sex that became the genders we know. 10/10. --- "Repeating something wonderful might be the best way to show you are unrepeatable." <cite>1dile_m posted [p:880766165] in How many g... [t:75441001]...</cite> <quote><cite>AugustAdoulin posted...</cite> <quote>There is nothing at all in our DNA that associates gender and sex. It just doesn't exist. Our biological sex came first and society developed concepts based on sex that became the genders we know.</quote>10/10.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MutantJohn 06/10/17 1:53:10 AM #98:	Gender roles made more sense before technology. --- "Oh, my mother; oh, my friends, ask the angels, will I ever see heaven again?" - Laura Marling <cite>MutantJohn posted [p:880766218] in How many g... [t:75441001]...</cite> <quote>Gender roles made more sense before technology.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GiftedACIII 06/10/17 2:06:45 AM #99:	1dile_m posted... GiftedACIII posted... 1. You're mixing up gender with gender roles. You're the type of guy who thinks someone can identify as a tiger or change genders like clothing aren't you? 1. Uh, they're the same. You're yet to show me how they differ. You previously said "Gender is in the brain", what exactly does that mean? Gender refers to the socially constructed characteristics of women and men – such as norms, roles and relationships of and between groups of women and men. It varies from society to society and can be changed. That's the World Health Organization's(WHO) definition of Gender, and it clearly falsifies you claim about gender being in the brain(WAT). And as for that study you posted: The study didn’t account for whether participants’ gender matched their biological designation as male or female. From the study YOU posted. That may have played some role in the sex differences noted in the study, she says. Also from the study you posted. Notice how it says "sex differences" and not "gender differences". It doesn't, at all, support any of your claims. You didn't think anyone would actually read that study, did you? WHO's page is clearly a sociologist's definition meant to politicize the term and to use it to push their political agenda. Right on their page, they're using it to talk about gender equality, gender division based on labour, gender mainstreaming, and other nonsense. They're unreliable. The problem with gender is that it's used so much with psychologists and sociologists that their (inconsistent and arbitrary) definitions are the ones that's pushed to the forefront. That's why stuff like the wikipedia entry is so contradictory and convoluted. When talking about gender, neuroscience is the most objective way to go about it. You didn't answer Armando's question. Why? Because if you abide by the sociologist's definition then gender really does have infinite possibilities and nonsense like "identifying as an attack helicopter" is a valid statement. It also doesn't make sense. Gender roles are social constructs. But for there to be roles, gender itself has to be a thing and that thing is biological otherwise it's completely redundant. For example, explain to me how gender is at all socially constructed without using roles and norms. Basically, by your stupid logic, feminine men and masculine women are the same thing as transgenders. AugustAdoulin posted... GiftedACIII posted... Nope, those are gender roles. Gender itself is biological. The fact that tomboys, extremely masculine women, and extremely feminine men who are secure in their gender identity exist destroys that theory. If someone was thrusted into a culture with completely opposite gender roles they would not suddenly change genders. There is nothing at all in our DNA that associates gender and sex. It just doesn't exist. Our biological sex came first and society developed concepts based on sex that became the genders we know. If you took a boy and raised them as a girl they wouldn't know the difference until someone else told them. :v There are real life instances of this happening. http://www.cam.ac.uk/research/news/males-and-females-differ-in-specific-brain-structures http://www.webmd.com/balance/features/how-male-female-brains-differ http://science.howstuffworks.com/life/men-women-different-brains1.htm http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuroscience_of_sex_differences http://www.pnas.org/content/111/2/823 http://transsexual.org/aprimer.html And no, David Reimer's case proves that wrong. --- </topic> <cite>GiftedACIII posted [p:880766615] in How many g... [t:75441001]...</cite> <quote><cite>1dile_m posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GiftedACIII posted...</cite> <quote>1. You're mixing up gender with gender roles. You're the type of guy who thinks someone can identify as a tiger or change genders like clothing aren't you?</quote>1. Uh, they're the same. You're yet to show me how they differ. You previously said "Gender is in the brain", what exactly does that mean? Gender refers to the socially constructed characteristics of women and men – such as norms, roles and relationships of and between groups of women and men. It varies from society to society and can be changed. That's the World Health Organization's(WHO) definition of Gender, and it clearly falsifies you claim about gender being in the brain(WAT). And as for that study you posted: The study didn’t account for whether participants’ gender matched their biological designation as male or female. From the study YOU posted. That may have played some role in the sex differences noted in the study, she says. Also from the study you posted. Notice how it says "sex differences" and not "gender differences". It doesn't, at all, support any of your claims. You didn't think anyone would actually read that study, did you?</quote> WHO's page is clearly a sociologist's definition meant to politicize the term and to use it to push their political agenda. Right on their page, they're using it to talk about gender equality, gender division based on labour, gender mainstreaming, and other nonsense. They're unreliable. The problem with gender is that it's used so much with psychologists and sociologists that their (inconsistent and arbitrary) definitions are the ones that's pushed to the forefront. That's why stuff like the wikipedia entry is so contradictory and convoluted. When talking about gender, neuroscience is the most objective way to go about it. You didn't answer Armando's question. Why? Because if you abide by the sociologist's definition then gender really does have infinite possibilities and nonsense like "identifying as an attack helicopter" is a valid statement. It also doesn't make sense. Gender roles are social constructs. But for there to be roles, gender itself has to be a thing and that thing is biological otherwise it's completely redundant. For example, explain to me how gender is at all socially constructed without using roles and norms. Basically, by your stupid logic, feminine men and masculine women are the same thing as transgenders. <cite>AugustAdoulin posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GiftedACIII posted...</cite> <quote> Nope, those are gender roles. Gender itself is biological. The fact that tomboys, extremely masculine women, and extremely feminine men who are secure in their gender identity exist destroys that theory. If someone was thrusted into a culture with completely opposite gender roles they would not suddenly change genders. </quote> There is nothing at all in our DNA that associates gender and sex. It just doesn't exist. Our biological sex came first and society developed concepts based on sex that became the genders we know. If you took a boy and raised them as a girl they wouldn't know the difference until someone else told them. :v There are real life instances of this happening.</quote> http://www.cam.ac.uk/research/news/males-and-females-differ-in-specific-brain-structures http://www.webmd.com/balance/features/how-male-female-brains-differ http://science.howstuffworks.com/life/men-women-different-brains1.htm http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuroscience_of_sex_differences http://www.pnas.org/content/111/2/823 http://transsexual.org/aprimer.html And no, David Reimer's case proves that wrong.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MutantJohn 06/10/17 2:09:47 AM #100:	Good to see Gifted is still arguing his same spiel. At least COVxy is working towards his doctorate. --- "Oh, my mother; oh, my friends, ask the angels, will I ever see heaven again?" - Laura Marling <cite>MutantJohn posted [p:880766698] in How many g... [t:75441001]...</cite> <quote>Good to see Gifted is still arguing his same spiel. At least COVxy is working towards his doctorate.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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