Poll of the Day > First SJW terrorist attack just happened

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http://edition.cnn.com/2017/06/14/politics/steve-scalise-shooting-political/index.html

The far left is looking more and more like the alt right whu just recently commited a terrorist attack
http://www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow/la-na-portland-stabbing-20170527-story.html


both extremes are harmful...this is why the horseshoe theory is read and only sjws and alt right deny it they are the same the exact same but just hate different people

we all shall move to the center. We need an Emanuel macron in America
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We need to get rid of the 2 party system

But people don't wanna think and would rather pick sides smfh
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mastermix3000 posted...

We need to get rid of the 2 party system

But people don't wanna think and would rather pick sides smfh

yep. we need a system that allows 5 or more parties to thrive at once like in France, the netherlands etc so we can have more options
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Well, if we have to have mass shooters, at least they are going after politicians.

The far left is looking more and more like the alt right whu just recently commited a terrorist attack

lol. wake me up when the "far left" has 60+ straight years of cults and hate groups that perform target killings and plot government destruction. "Eco-terrorists" is about as close as the Left gets to matching the Right, terrorism wise.

The slime Rep. Chris Collins saying Democrats are the ones that need to "calm the rhetoric" is proof that God doesn't exist, because a lighting bolt should have came down and smote him for saying something so tragically ironic and hypocritical.

We need to get rid of the 2 party system

This would only work if you completely change our voting system, i.e., do away with First Past the Post. There's about a 0% chance of this happening anytime soon. Otherwise, a 2-party system is inevitable in a FPTP system.

That said, more parties won't cause the extinction of extremists.
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CyborgSage00x0 posted...

Well, if we have to have mass shooters, at least they are going after politicians.

And politicians that support such easy access to rapid-firing high capacity magazine guns, too. It's like laser-guided karma! Especially timely, given that apparently the sound of the gunfire helped alert them to take cover faster and aided the police in figuring out where it was coming from more quickly...right as the same people who were just shot at are trying to make it easier to get silencers for guns. I feel like there's a lesson to be learned here, but...nah, I guess not.

Bad on the Republicans, though. I would've expected, based on their rhetoric, that every republican there would be carrying their own guns and could thus solve the crisis on their own by having dozens of "good guys with guns" opening fire in a crowded area, too.

CyborgSage00x0 posted...

The far left is looking more and more like the alt right whu just recently commited a terrorist attack

lol. wake me up when the "far left" has 60+ straight years of cults and hate groups that perform target killings and plot government destruction. "Eco-terrorists" is about as close as the Left gets to matching the Right, terrorism wise.

The slime Rep. Chris Collins saying Democrats are the ones that need to "calm the rhetoric" is proof that God doesn't exist, because a lighting bolt should have came down and smote him for saying something so tragically ironic and hypocritical.

We need to get rid of the 2 party system

This would only work if you completely change our voting system, i.e., do away with First Past the Post. There's about a 0% chance of this happening anytime soon. Otherwise, a 2-party system is inevitable in a FPTP system.

That said, more parties won't cause the extinction of extremists.

Wow, you nailed that! Even knowing that FPTP is the root cause of our political dysfunction. Just...quoted for truth.

The Left wants this to escalate, starting on July 2nd, in which they call it the "Summer of Rage". They are all butthurt over Donald Trump beating Hillary Clinton, so they want to "fix" that by using murder. Do you think Kathy Griffin's holding a Donald Trump severed head, or replacing Julius Caesar as Donald Trump was any coincidence? And it all started with bullshit conspiracy theories relating to Russia causing them to lose the election.

The Left wants to start a civil war, with no ifs, ands, or buts. Most of you here does not like Trump. But he is not your enemy. Antifa, and their supporters, are your enemies.

TheWorstPoster posted...

Do you think Kathy Griffin's holding a Donald Trump severed head,

lest we forget all the hanged effigies of obama...
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Leftists showing their class by taking shots at Republicans after they just survived a mass shooting. These are the people who claim they know what's best for the country, lol.

Jen0125 posted...

TheWorstPoster posted...

Do you think Kathy Griffin's holding a Donald Trump severed head,

lest we forget all the hanged effigies of obama...

Was it a Fox employee or a celebrity? A little false equivalence there.

ICOYAR, stay off the wingnut sites and get some fresh air.

Kathy Griffin did something stupid to be edgy and was rightfully castigated for it by pretty much everyone.
Everything else you said is tinfoil hat level conspiracy theory or demonstrably false.

- Theaters have used [current president's image] for years in Caesar plays, including...yes, Obama, too. The message it sends is supposed to be that political violence solves nothing, sounds like you completely missed the point.
- Unlike your bs conspiracy theories, the Russia hacking is very real and (unlike...say...the birther crap about Obama) has actual federal agencies investigating it heavily right now, with politicians on both sides expressing concern about it.

CyborgSage00x0 posted...

lol. wake me up when the "far left" has 60+ straight years of cults and hate groups that perform target killings and plot government destruction. "Eco-terrorists" is about as close as the Left gets to matching the Right, terrorism wise.

Sorry, but the 1970s are on the phone. And apparently some people calling themselves the Weather Underground apparently want to talk to you?

Yes, the recent perception is that most of the violent nuts come out of the Right, but the Left has a long and storied history of violence as well, going back at least as far as the era of Sacco and Vanzetti.

Or to put it another way, people are shits regardless of their politics.


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streamofthesky posted...

right as the same people who were just shot at are trying to make it easier to get silencers for guns.

The term "silencer" is a misnomer. It is to protect hearing, as well as conceal the muzzle flash

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZU5TGljAmw

However, everyone wants you to believe that this is true instead:

https://youtu.be/-jJ6ITqAmLg?t=417

TheWorstPoster posted...

The Left wants this to escalate, starting on July 2nd, in which they call it the "Summer of Rage". They are all butthurt over Donald Trump beating Hillary Clinton, so they want to "fix" that by using murder. Do you think Kathy Griffin's holding a Donald Trump severed head, or replacing Julius Caesar as Donald Trump was any coincidence? And it all started with bullshit conspiracy theories relating to Russia causing them to lose the election.

The Left wants to start a civil war, with no ifs, ands, or buts. Most of you here does not like Trump. But he is not your enemy. Antifa, and their supporters, are your enemies.

This civil war will be the shortest in history, lol. Military, police, vets, farmers are all pro Trump. Let's not forget the 2A people. Antifa has lots of work to do to catchup.

params7 posted...

Jen0125 posted...

TheWorstPoster posted...

Do you think Kathy Griffin's holding a Donald Trump severed head,

lest we forget all the hanged effigies of obama...

Was it a Fox employee or a celebrity? A little false equivalence there.

Who cares who it was? One person vs dozens of people with different images hanging an effigy of the president pretending to lynch him because he's black.

Nuts that anyone will try to act like it's a bigger deal Kathy Griffin did it because she was on some TV shows in the 90s and is chomping at the bit to stay relevant.
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params7 posted...

Leftists showing their class by taking shots at Republicans after they just survived a mass shooting. These are the people who claim they know what's best for the country, lol.

And how many times did Republicans take shots at the left, especially after the attack on the US embassy?
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params7 posted...

Leftists showing their class by taking shots at Republicans after they just survived a mass shooting. These are the people who claim they know what's best for the country, lol.

I liken it to when a "bleeding heart" liberal gives a prisoner early release and he goes on to kill someone. Republicans have no problem "politicizing" a tragedy like that.
(And in both this karma-riffic shooting incident and the above example, "politicizing" it is justified b/c the other side was wrong and you want to stop another such tragedy from occurring)

And lest we forget, mere hours after Justice Scalia passed away, before it could even be concluded if he died due to natural causes, Mitch McConnell took time out of his weekend to immediately politicize THAT by saying there'd be no hearings for an Obama appointee.

You don't like the same thing being done back to you? Tough.

Jen0125 posted...

params7 posted...

Jen0125 posted...

TheWorstPoster posted...

Do you think Kathy Griffin's holding a Donald Trump severed head,

lest we forget all the hanged effigies of obama...

Was it a Fox employee or a celebrity? A little false equivalence there.

Who cares who it was? One person vs dozens of people with different images hanging an effigy of the president pretending to lynch him because he's black.

Nuts that anyone will try to act like it's a bigger deal Kathy Griffin did it because she was on some TV shows in the 90s and is chomping at the bit to stay relevant.

I can't control what some racist redneck does in his backyard. I can hold my celebrities to some standard though since they influence a lot more people. Nobody cares if Griffin does more beheadings of Trump since she's a nobody now and will never have a career again.

Nobody cares that she did it now because she was already a nobody whose on my job was some CNN holiday special.
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streamofthesky posted...

params7 posted...

Leftists showing their class by taking shots at Republicans after they just survived a mass shooting. These are the people who claim they know what's best for the country, lol.

I liken it to when a "bleeding heart" liberal gives a prisoner early release and he goes on to kill someone. Republicans have no problem "politicizing" a tragedy like that.
(And in both this karma-riffic shooting incident and the above example, "politicizing" it is justified b/c the other side was wrong and you want to stop another such tragedy from occurring)

And lest we forget, mere hours after Justice Scalia passed away, before it could even be concluded if he died due to natural causes, Mitch McConnell took time out of his weekend to immediately politicize THAT by saying there'd be no hearings for an Obama appointee.

You don't like the same thing being done back to you? Tough.

None of those situations are comparable to this. You're grasping at straws. It would be best if libs don't encourage this violent behavior further though, as much as you may secretly like to justify it.

params7 posted...

None of those situations are comparable to this. You're grasping at straws. It would be best if libs don't encourage this violent behavior further though, as much as you may secretly like to justify it.

Hey, did you know a conservative nutjob shot and killed a progressive politician in Britain during the Brexit campaign?

It's true! Her name was Jo Cox. You might want to read up on that before you ride too far on that high horse of yours.

Or not. It might challenge your worldview by showing that violent shitheads exist on both sides of the political spectrum.

params7 posted...

I can hold my celebrities to some standard though since they influence a lot more people.

So where were you when Ted Nugent was saying that Obama and Clinton deserved to be hanged and/or shot for treason (which he did, multiple times)? Should I assume you were just as vocal in your outrage and swiftly organized a boycott campaign amongst your fellow conservatives? Because if you did, I didn't hear about it - must have been really under the radar.
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Metal_Gear_Link posted...

mastermix3000 posted...

We need to get rid of the 2 party system

But people don't wanna think and would rather pick sides smfh

yep. we need a system that allows 5 or more parties to thrive at once like in France, the netherlands etc so we can have more options

It's not like you can't put your name on the polls even if you're not part of a party.

The problem is no media outlet will acknowledge your existence and nobody will know who are are, and thus not vote for you, unless you're part of the 2 "main" parties.

And the 2 main parties that hold the most power do so because they are supported by people with (a lot of) money and influence, who want to keep those one of those 2 parties in power, so they can influence the politicians to do as they want.
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TigerTycoon posted...

Metal_Gear_Link posted...

mastermix3000 posted...

We need to get rid of the 2 party system

But people don't wanna think and would rather pick sides smfh

yep. we need a system that allows 5 or more parties to thrive at once like in France, the netherlands etc so we can have more options

It's not like you can't put your name on the polls even if you're not part of a party.

The problem is no media outlet will acknowledge your existence and nobody will know who are are, and thus not vote for you, unless you're part of the 2 "main" parties.

And the 2 main parties that hold the most power do so because they are supported by people with (a lot of) money and influence, who want to keep those one of those 2 parties in power, so they can influence the politicians to do as they want.

If that were true, Ross Perot would never have been involved in the 1992 and 1996 elections.
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Hyperbole and extremism is wrong regardless of your ideology

No matter what you believe the people who have different political and social opinions probably have more in common with you than you think. We are all in this together and I think we'd be better off if people kept that in mind.
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streamofthesky posted...

And politicians that support such easy access to rapid-firing high capacity magazine guns, too. It's like laser-guided karma! Especially timely, given that apparently the sound of the gunfire helped alert them to take cover faster and aided the police in figuring out where it was coming from more quickly...right as the same people who were just shot at are trying to make it easier to get silencers for guns. I feel like there's a lesson to be learned here, but...nah, I guess not.

Bad on the Republicans, though. I would've expected, based on their rhetoric, that every republican there would be carrying their own guns and could thus solve the crisis on their own by having dozens of "good guys with guns" opening fire in a crowded area, too.

Couldn't have said it better myself. It should be noted that Scalise also voted down a bill that would have disallowed the mentally ill from possessing firearms (not saying this dude was mentally ill, unless you're the type that thinks shooting people in general is evidence enough of mental illness), but perhaps the most tragic thing about this is the sheer irony of it all. The hearing on silencers got canceled after this, so at least there's that.

Wow, you nailed that! Even knowing that FPTP is the root cause of our political dysfunction. Just...quoted for truth.

I keep making the mistake of assuming people who attempt to speak politics already know this, but then they resort to lazy "pffft 2 party system" snips, as if it's that easy.

Do you think Kathy Griffin's holding a Donald Trump severed head, or replacing Julius Caesar as Donald Trump was any coincidence?

About as much as a coincidence of numerous hanging Obama effigies and the exact same playgroup using Obama's likeness years ago does. And that's about as much attention I'll give your insane ass.

Sorry, but the 1970s are on the phone. And apparently some people calling themselves the Weather Underground apparently want to talk to you?

A one-off group that has been defunct for nearly 50 years is calling me? Now that IS odd! I actually thought of the Weathermen as I typed this, but this is one of those "you show me 1, I'll show you 10" instances. That, and the Weathermen had such a specific agenda that it bears no relation to the politics of today.

Yes, the recent perception is that most of the violent nuts come out of the Right...

No, that's actually the historical perception. Which is important, because...

Or to put it another way, people are shits regardless of their politics.

...lazy "same things, both sides" beliefs don't help us solve the problem.
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jim jones was an sjw
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Jen0125 posted...

TheWorstPoster posted...

Do you think Kathy Griffin's holding a Donald Trump severed head,

lest we forget all the hanged effigies of obama...

.and Bush..Bill Clinton...Reagan and so on.
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Mead posted...

Hyperbole and extremism is wrong regardless of your ideology

No matter what you believe the people who have different political and social opinions probably have more in common with you than you think. We are all in this together and I think we'd be better off if people kept that in mind.

Agreed but sadly I don't think they will listen.
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I e been saying this for months, but the roles are reversed. The far right are becoming all talk while the far left are getting increasingly violent. I mean, those shit-licking greaseball "professional protesters" have always been trouble, but they're as fringe as possible, like the KKK on the right.
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Not surprised, it was bound to happen. The republicans control the government right now. Their Hypocrisy knows now bounds. Trump is getting away with things that a Democratic president never could if the house and senate were controlled by the right.

They are tearing down government programs because the cabinet is made up of people looking to make money for themselves or big business.

What do you expect.
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SJW?

was a supporter of the 2016 presidential candidacy of Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders, an independent who ran as a Democrat.

Hodgkinson also apparently volunteered for Sanders campaign in Iowa during the 2016 campaign.

He's a Bernie bro. The number one enemy of SJWs during the democratic primaries.
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The Founding fathers likely regret independence now
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jedirood posted...

The Founding fathers likely regret independence now

Make America Great Britain Again
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streamofthesky posted...

Especially timely, given that apparently the sound of the gunfire helped alert them to take cover faster and aided the police in figuring out where it was coming from more quickly...right as the same people who were just shot at are trying to make it easier to get silencers for guns.

Oh my fucking god, you believe the myth of the "Silent" gun.

Hahaha, NO.

It doesn't exist.
A silencer-equipped gun is still loud as fuck. It's just not going to make you go deaf in one or two blasts.
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ParanoidObsessive posted...

CyborgSage00x0 posted...

lol. wake me up when the "far left" has 60+ straight years of cults and hate groups that perform target killings and plot government destruction. "Eco-terrorists" is about as close as the Left gets to matching the Right, terrorism wise.

Sorry, but the 1970s are on the phone. And apparently some people calling themselves the Weather Underground apparently want to talk to you?

Yes, the recent perception is that most of the violent nuts come out of the Right, but the Left has a long and storied history of violence as well, going back at least as far as the era of Sacco and Vanzetti.

Or to put it another way, people are shits regardless of their politics.

Thank you...

Mead posted...

Hyperbole and extremism is wrong regardless of your ideology

No matter what you believe the people who have different political and social opinions probably have more in common with you than you think. We are all in this together and I think we'd be better off if people kept that in mind.

...and thank you. /topic.
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Metal_Gear_Link posted...

mastermix3000 posted...

We need to get rid of the 2 party system

But people don't wanna think and would rather pick sides smfh

yep. we need a system that allows 5 or more parties to thrive at once like in France, the netherlands etc so we can have more options

Places with more than 2 parties are aberrations. France isn't even a great example since the Socialists and Republicans have alternated power since their foundation. Other parties exist and occasionally matter but they've never had power until now. Canada was a good example of three parties surviving effectively (technically 4 but the Bloc is regional) but the NDP has basically been cannibalized by the Liberals after their brief hibernation.

Two major parties and possibly one underdog is the standard political equilibrium and when there's more than one it's usually the left-wing that suffers vote splitting and the conservative faction remains relatively unified.

SomeUsername529 posted...

Metal_Gear_Link posted...

mastermix3000 posted...

We need to get rid of the 2 party system

But people don't wanna think and would rather pick sides smfh

yep. we need a system that allows 5 or more parties to thrive at once like in France, the netherlands etc so we can have more options

Places with more than 2 parties are aberrations. France isn't even a great example since the Socialists and Republicans have alternated power since their foundation. Other parties exist and occasionally matter but they've never had power until now. Canada was a good example of three parties surviving effectively (technically 4 but the Bloc is regional) but the NDP has basically been cannibalized by the Liberals after their brief hibernation.

Two major parties and possibly one underdog is the standard political equilibrium and when there's more than one it's usually the left-wing that suffers vote splitting and the conservative faction remains relatively unified.

Lol no, in france and the netherlands they are forced to share legislative power that changes the game completelly anyone who support a 2 party system is an idiot because people tend to have multiple opinions not justblacka nd white
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SomeUsername529 posted...

Places with more than 2 parties are aberrations.

Only in places that have FPTP voting systems. In places that have some form of proportional representation, there's no longer the "parasite" effect where voting for an ideological similar party to the "main" party weakens both and strengthens the opposition, and the encouragement for "strategic" voting (where you don't vote for a candidate, you vote against them) is largely neutralized, so people are free to vote for whichever party best represents their interests.
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I wouldn't say he was radical left (or SJW). Sounds like I might agree with him on a lot of things. He just didn't value human life and wanted to spread violence.

Then that starts to snowball when the other guys start using violence against you, and then there's just violence for no reason.
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It wasn't the first nor will it be the last.
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