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Polycosm 06/21/17 1:51:53 AM #52: |
Mal_Fet posted...
Polycosm posted...I don’t know of any incident where a private citizen has been arrested for violating another citizen’s 1A rights, Threats are not a violation of 1A though. Again, 1A strictly issues negative commands against the gov't. SCOTUS ruled that threatening speech is not protected under 1A, meaning that you can be arrested if you make a specific, true threat. In other words, 1A can't be used as a defense if you violate US Code. If you're going to use a phrase like "right to free expression," it helps to specify which one you're talking about. Are you talking about California's affirmative free speech policy? If so, I don't necessarily disagree with you. However, the boundaries seem to be poorly defined by the case literature that I've read. --- BKSheikah owned me so thoroughly in the 2017 guru contest, I'd swear he used the Lens of Truth to pick his bracket. (thengamer.com/guru) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FrisbeeDude 06/21/17 1:53:22 AM #53: |
Solar_Crimson posted...
Yes, it's free speech. Nor does it shield you from public shaming or loss of employment --- No one gets in the way of my frisbee games! NO ONE! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FrisbeeDude 06/21/17 2:00:18 AM #54: |
Mal_Fet posted...
RebelElite791 posted...Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism, What about death threats and rushing the stage of a performance of Julius ceasar --- No one gets in the way of my frisbee games! NO ONE! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rhylos 06/21/17 2:04:06 AM #55: |
But what about my feelings?!
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ChainedRedone 06/21/17 2:25:20 AM #56: |
Dragonblade01 posted...
I agree that it should not be criminal to say something hateful, and so I support the decision. Then you don't understand the decision. US trademark isn't saying it should be illegal, just not able to be trademarked. You can keep offensive names, but they won't be protected by trademarks. People here aren't really understanding the case thanks to mal fets shitposting. He will always be a shitposter and you shouldn't trust him even on issues like this. Not saying I don't agree with the results, but it's way off from what mal fet wants you to believe. --- David Mink. Hero. https://c1.staticflickr.com/7/6043/6337878059_009dd4c4f3_z.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dragonblade01 06/21/17 2:46:42 AM #57: |
Interesting. I wonder how they determine what names are too offensive to be trademarked.
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The23rdMagus 06/23/17 1:31:58 AM #59: |
If the best thing a person can say about their opinion is that it's not illegal to express, perhaps there's a problem.
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Mal_Fet 06/23/17 4:55:04 PM #60: |
The23rdMagus posted...
If the best thing a person can say about their opinion is that it's not illegal to express, perhaps there's a problem. Perhaps there is. But it still shouldn't be illegal to say it. --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell ... Copied to Clipboard!
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garan 06/23/17 5:00:17 PM #61: |
This vote being unanimous makes me proud to be an American.
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hollow_shrine 06/23/17 5:02:14 PM #62: |
Nothing has changed.
No one gets arrested for hate speech, however the use of hate speech is an aggravating factor if a crime later develops. The only major exception this is stuff that disrupts public safety, like intentionally causing a panic in a crowded space. --- https://i.imgtc.com/72JF7CA.jpg (by mark2000) 13 Transwomen of color have been murdered since 1/1/2017 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ChainedRedone 06/23/17 6:02:11 PM #63: |
Mal_Fet posted...
The23rdMagus posted...If the best thing a person can say about their opinion is that it's not illegal to express, perhaps there's a problem. It's not illegal to say it and that's not what this court decision was about you illiterate shitposter. Jesus is there anything besides guns that you're knowledgeable on? --- Posted with GameRaven 3.2 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ManBeast462 06/23/17 6:03:24 PM #64: |
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BigSLM1993 06/23/17 6:06:19 PM #65: |
Good news to hear. Hopefully both sides can take this to heart.
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Kineth 06/23/17 6:06:29 PM #66: |
So are conservatives gonna have to accept all the speech targeted at them or are they going to whine and moan some more?
I bet they're going to whine and moan some more. --- If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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scorpion41 06/23/17 6:09:19 PM #67: |
Kineth posted...
So are conservatives gonna have to accept all the speech targeted at them or are they going to whine and moan some more? Same way liberals are going to have to swallow shit shoveled at them. Or stage yet another protest. --- PSN: scorpion_4160 Currently Playing: NCAA 14, Devil May Cry HD collection ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kineth 06/23/17 6:10:07 PM #68: |
scorpion41 posted...
Kineth posted...So are conservatives gonna have to accept all the speech targeted at them or are they going to whine and moan some more? lol, gtfo with this same thing, both sides bullshit. --- If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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marc55 06/23/17 6:10:31 PM #69: |
ThePrinceFish posted...
Wont change the "hate speech is not free speech" narrative that college students have. They wont care that it's unanimous. they even get rewarded too --- There is no sound, no voice, no cry in all the world that can be heard... until someone listens. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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scorpion41 06/23/17 6:10:51 PM #70: |
Kineth posted...
scorpion41 posted...Kineth posted...So are conservatives gonna have to accept all the speech targeted at them or are they going to whine and moan some more? You're right. It's obviously one-sided... --- PSN: scorpion_4160 Currently Playing: NCAA 14, Devil May Cry HD collection ... Copied to Clipboard!
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EvoTech 06/23/17 6:11:07 PM #71: |
This may cause liberals to be even more violent...
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Kineth 06/23/17 6:11:08 PM #72: |
Free speech doesn't mean immune from criticism. -_- In fact, it means that criticism is welcome.
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marc55 06/23/17 6:14:18 PM #73: |
Kineth posted...
Free speech doesn't mean immune from criticism. -_- In fact, it means that criticism is welcome. going by some stuff ive read and posts here on CE ............collegue students disagree --- There is no sound, no voice, no cry in all the world that can be heard... until someone listens. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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VectorChaos 06/23/17 6:20:27 PM #74: |
TheVipaGTS posted...
Mal_Fet posted...Yes it is...forcibly preventing someone from speaking does in fact make them unfree to speak. Useful idiots like you are the wet dream of authoritarians. --- PSN VectorChaos http://i.imgur.com/ftMERkZ.jpg XBL Vector Chaos http://i.imgur.com/10hWZ95.png http://i.imgur.com/MZMOLx0.jpg http://i.imgur.com/R2jRl8F.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kessobahn 06/23/17 6:22:45 PM #75: |
Unsurprisingly, TC, the guy who thought NATO was established after 9/11 doesn't realize that quote wasn't actually made by Voltaire.
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Kineth 06/23/17 6:29:45 PM #76: |
marc55 posted...
Kineth posted...Free speech doesn't mean immune from criticism. -_- In fact, it means that criticism is welcome. Well you should get better sources. --- If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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marc55 06/23/17 7:46:06 PM #77: |
Kineth posted...
marc55 posted...Kineth posted...Free speech doesn't mean immune from criticism. -_- In fact, it means that criticism is welcome. i do remember a video with a crazy girl yelling be quiet to professor just because he had different opinions over halloween costumes i even read he defended her right to disagree and asked people to not judge her over that video --- There is no sound, no voice, no cry in all the world that can be heard... until someone listens. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ModLogic 06/23/17 7:51:08 PM #78: |
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Mal_Fet 06/23/17 7:54:38 PM #79: |
scorpion41 posted...
Kineth posted...So are conservatives gonna have to accept all the speech targeted at them or are they going to whine and moan some more? Uh How many leftist speakers can you name who have had their speaking engagements shut down by violent right-wingers? --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell ... Copied to Clipboard!
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untrustful 06/23/17 8:04:31 PM #80: |
Solar_Crimson posted...
Yes, it's free speech. --- "It's as simple as A-B-C Mr. Baskin...lock your windows." "Hey, we were just getting into the significance of nuclear love!" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ChainedRedone 06/27/17 4:37:28 AM #82: |
And here comes the ignant Mal continuing to think this decision has anything to do with hate speech and freedom of speech after already being told it has to do with trademarks. What a lost cause this poor fellow is.
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fan357 06/27/17 4:42:15 AM #83: |
Solar_Crimson posted...
Yes, it's free speech. --- Everything will be alright. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Endofall 06/29/17 2:59:22 AM #84: |
Fair, next
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ChainedRedone 06/29/17 3:03:56 AM #85: |
Shut the fuck up people this decision isn't about free speech. Whether or not you could say it was not in question. It was whether it could be rejected as a protected trademark. Even if the decision ruled the opposite, the only difference would have been companies could now sell their own Red Skin merchandise without licensing, which in a way would be more free speech.
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The Admiral 06/29/17 3:04:32 AM #86: |
RebelElite791 posted...
Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism And freedom to criticize is not "freedom to assault," something these Antifa shitheads need to learn. --- - The Admiral ... Copied to Clipboard!
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_Near_ 06/29/17 3:07:55 AM #87: |
It amazes me how many people don't know this already.
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Mal_Fet 07/01/17 6:32:05 AM #91: |
shockthemonkey posted...
Today? This happened a couple weeks ago. Go check when this topic was posted --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Xelltrix 07/01/17 12:06:50 PM #93: |
Duh.
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LeadPipeCinche 07/01/17 12:08:20 PM #94: |
DiesMortis posted...
Just because something is legal doesn't mean it's right. Take any and all appeals to authority and shove them up your ass. Stay salty troll. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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