Board 8 > ~FIGHT!~ Mega Man, Celes, Nightmare Geese vs. Yuffie, Geralt, Lu Lingqi, Sigma

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Mega Man, Celes Chere and Nightmare Geese have challenged Yuffie, Geralt of Rivia, Lu Lingqi and Sigma to a fight! Location of the fight: Kaer Morhen - The old keep of the Wolf School, as seen in The Witcher 3. Access to the rest of the Witcher world outside of the keep is not allowed. Attackers will start by the entryway from the Witcher's Trail entryway, while defenders will start on the top floor of the highest tower.. Which side will win?

Guidelines

- The fight will occur in real-time (like an FMV sequence). Gameplay mechanics are less important than how the characters would function in a real-time environment.
- The members of each team are ideal teammates capable of a pre-selected plan of battle.
- "Broken" refers to a lot of things, including insta-death, auto-effects, a variety of status effects (e.g., Imp, Silence, Stop, *not* Poison), and revival. Unless stated otherwise, nobody has them, though do use your own discretion.
- There may be SPOILERS from all of the games the characters are from.

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Mega Man is as seen in Mega Man Series. He has access to his Mega Buster, his Magnet Beam, all of his weapons from the mainline Mega Man series (1-10) aside from the Time Stopper, Flash Stopper, Gravity Hold, Centaur Flash and Astro Crush and his moveset from Marvel vs Capcom 2, but may only use his hypers if he has enough meter and the necessary robots are present. He also has a variety of weapons based on his defeated foes, allowing him to use Soul Steal, as seen in Castlevania: Symphony of the Night. Once per match if he dies, he will immediately reanimate to full health at his starting location.

Celes Chere is as she appears at the end of FF6A. She is equipped with full Genji armour, Save The Queen, a Hero Ring, and a Gold Hairpin. She has all her natural magic, as well as Flood and those gained from Unicorn, but not Imp, Confuse, or Berserk. She cannot use Runic.

Nightmare Geese is as he appears in the Fatal Fury and King of Fighters series, with all of his moves available.
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~VS~

All mercenaries on the team bar Lu Lingqi will be absent at the start of the match. After 30 seconds, they will all attempt to land their interpretation of Kain's jump attack on Celes. Jumping mercenaries will not take damage from the fall, will all land on the same target, and while the attacks can be blocked, no one on the opposing team will know who and when the target is.

Lu Lingqi is as she appears in Dynasty Warriors 8: Xtreme Legends, equipped with a Cross Halberd with her full moveset, and starts with full Musou.

Yuffie is as she appears in FFVII and the Kingdom Hearts games, a ninja wielding a giant shuriken. She has access to all of her limit breaks, as well as every magic type materia aside from Ultima, Destruct, Transform, Exit, Revive, and Full Cure.

Geralt is as he appears in The Witcher 3, with fully upgraded Feline Witcher gear and equipment along with maxed out Combat, Alchemy, and Signs skill trees (except for Axii). Additionally, he has studied Mega Man and has knowledge of his fighting style, abilities, equipment, and weaknesses, with plenty of oils applied to his weapons that would make them extra effective against his target. He rides Roach into battle.

Sigma is as he appears in his first form in Mega Man X1, though he also has access to all the weaponry and moves of his first form final battles in X2, X3, X4, and X5.

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First rule of war: Know thine enemy! FIGHT!
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@JeezyMiyagi
@Tom_Bombadil

The floor is yours.
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so what's the difference between nightmare geese and regular geese
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Drakeryn posted...

so what's the difference between nightmare geese and regular geese

http://snk.wikia.com/wiki/Nightmare_Geese

Go to 'Fighting style'. Basically his everything gets considerably better from his already strong defaults.
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I think a lot depends on Geese, and I have no idea how strong he is.
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Jeezy's argument:

My team has an advantage of FUTURE knowledge via Sigma. When Sigma sees the name "Mega Man" on the upcoming opponent docket, it'll trigger memories of his accursed foe Mega Man X. Sigma can semi-accurately prepare his friends for what this "mega" Man is capable of. if anything he'll over-prepare them because MMX is much sturdier and more powerful than this "mega" "man". Mega Man isn't from the future and doesn't have this reciprocal knowledge of Sigma. Combine this with Geralt gaining them full knowledge of Mega Man's Raziel custom and my team will have the perfect strategy for bringing him down. A surprise aerial ambush.

I pulled up Witcher 3 to get an estimate of how long it will take the teams to meet. Geralt moving from the top of the tower to the entrance the other team is coming from takes roughly one and a quarter minutes. That won't likely be exact because I was taking the quickest possible path and the other team will be moving forward in that time but I think it is likely that at the time of the Ultimate Kain Highwind Revenge Maneuver the opposing team will be fairly close to Lu Lingqi. Especially considering she knows she want to arrive at roughly that time to help out.

Celes will be getting crushed under the weight of Sigma (presumably of a substantial mass, although finding out specific weights of Mega Man characters was harder than I initially assumed) while Geralt and Yuffie give her vicious kicks and/or People's Elbows. With Celes properly dealt with my team can move onto the main course. Sigma's hatred of Mega Man makes him the perfect attack dog to keep Mega Man occupied. Geralt can pop up a Quen shield which will protect him from damage while it holds. Then he can pull out a Northern Wind bomb and toss it at perhaps Geese, freezing him and leaving him vulnerable. Yuffie can start casting Slow on the two foes and then getting Haste up for her friends. Lu Lingqi is stated to start with a full Mousou, so she can move in and wreck the frozen and/or slowed Geese. With Sigma handling Mega Man, Geese will eventually fall to a 3v1 and then Yuffie/Geralt/Lingqi can help Sigma bring down Mega Man. Once he's dead, Yuffie can get to work healing everybody up to prepare to kill Mega Man a second time. Mega Man's got no chance in a 4v1.

To summarize a few things my boys and girls have:

Sigma:
-Experience fighting robots like Mega Man
-Deep burning hatred of robots like Mega Man
-Teleportation and a cool scythe
-Big ass laser waves

Geralt:
-An oil designed to poison and mess up Mega Man
-A freezing bomb and the ability upgrade to slow down time while tossing bombs
-Quen shield to protect and an alternate Quen shield to absorb damage as health
-Brilliant tactical mind to help out with pre-battle planning

Yuffie:
-Buffs and Debuffs
-Ninja like teleportation
-Healing
-has flare too which is nice

Lu Lingqi:
-uses double-edged cross voulges, very cool
-genetically related to the beast Lu Bu
-starts with a full Mousou which is very cool
this video shows all her Musou attacks the fourth one being the one she can do with a full bar:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBksO0VcrvI
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hmm

I feel like Celes opens with Vanish, which means the jumpers are going to miss. But Sigma is FROM THE FUTURE and his team is stronger overall. Not sure if it's by enough to offset invisibility.
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also is geralt jumping while riding roach or are he and roach jumping separately
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Drakeryn posted...

hmm

I feel like Celes opens with Vanish, which means the jumpers are going to miss. But Sigma is FROM THE FUTURE and his team is stronger overall. Not sure if it's by enough to offset invisibility.

In fairness, there's enough people falling that it's basically an AoE jump and Celes probably gets crushed anyways.

There's a large robot and a horse for one
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and drak i think it's best to imagine him surfing roach through the air
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Nightmare Geese is pretty much when he goes all SNK Boss on you. As far as fighting games go, he's not meant to be fair or balanced, he's usually the last thing you unlock in a KoF game to go "Okay here, have the guy who steps on everyone. Why not."
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Yeah I don't see Celes dodging anything - the attack is homing. It can be dodge if you know it's coming, but who gives Celes of all people reflex cred?
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KanzarisKelshen posted...

the attack is homing

no
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Basically like the super duper broken versions of Akuma as opposed to garden variety Akuma, to think of it another way
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FFDragon posted...

KanzarisKelshen posted...

the attack is homing

no

Jumping mercenaries will not take damage from the fall, will all land on the same target, and while the attacks can be blocked, no one on the opposing team will know who and when the target is.

This is what the text says. You tell me how everyone lands on the same target, simultaneously, without it being pretty homing.
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Sadly I've been afk so I can't really argue on mobile

Mega man is cool though and has a huge range of weapons

I don't think jump homes
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I see we've already reached the legendary Curse of Kain.

"Hey, this is a pretty neat ability Kain has."

"Until the other team moves."

"Oh."
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Yeah it's pretty silly to argue that tbqh

Sigma and friends are gonna land exactly where Celes is at the 30 second mark. I don't think that's super debatable. Starting from that point onward, Celes can dodge, but unless she does something they will all land on her. And I don't think just taking a step or two forward suffices here.
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I don't think Celes necessarily opens with Vanish here. She's not really in a stealth oriented team and losing vision of your allies seems like a bad idea if you're not adept at sneaking and coordinating
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I don't think it's homing. I think it's aimed. But if the target is moving at the time, it doesn't automatically adjust (obviously the jumpers can adjust themselves if they have the reflexes/skills).

AoE jump makes sense, though. How big are the stairways in this place?
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will all land on the same target meaning they will all attempt to land on Celes and not the other members of the team

not that they will all land on celes in a pileup
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poor roach
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(roach is absolutely dead)
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Drakeryn posted...

I don't think it's homing. I think it's aimed. But if the target is moving at the time, it doesn't automatically adjust (obviously the jumpers can adjust themselves if they have the reflexes/skills).

AoE jump makes sense, though. How big are the stairways in this place?

Yeah I should clarify that when I say 'homing' I mean that it corrects itself to whatever Celes' location is at the 30 sec mark - not that mercs will change trajectory in midair if she moves.

FFDragon posted...

will all land on the same target meaning they will all attempt to land on Celes and not the other members of the team

not that they will all land on celes in a pileup

I was more envisioning like a sort of X strike (asterisk strike given it's three mercs?) from above, moreso than 'we all belly flop onto Celes, rip', fwiw.
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that is the opposite of homing you dork

that is aimed

which I agree with
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FFDragon posted...

that is the opposite of homing you dork

that is aimed

which I agree with

I blame having had an extra long shift at work today, sry X_x

That aside though - honestly, is there any reason Sigma doesn't smash this? Dude beats up X and Zero. Rock is kinda no match there, it'd be like asking Zidane to beat Sephiroth (though the gap is obviously closer than that here).
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Drakeryn posted...

I don't think it's homing. I think it's aimed. But if the target is moving at the time, it doesn't automatically adjust (obviously the jumpers can adjust themselves if they have the reflexes/skills).

AoE jump makes sense, though. How big are the stairways in this place?

in fairness we do have precedent of Kain landing on a hamster on a mouse from m3
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Sigma's got this, just look at him:

http://img02.deviantart.net/d973/i/2013/197/d/e/sigma___virtue_s_last_reward_by_dinocosparrow-d6drj7m.png
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Life is simply unfair
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sigma literally solos

Up
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I forgot celes was the Mistress of Stealth
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I wouldn't mind losing but I would mind losing 1-0
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I feel like Nightmare Geese beats up anyone on the other side who isn't Sigma, but Sigma is very mean, so
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sigma
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Yeah I think the jump actually works to kill Celes here, and I don't really think Celes's go to is gonna be to invisible up everyone to start the fight. Different teamcomp, sure, but I think the strategy here would be to put the buffs that are less disruptive to team communication, coordination, and such on, and maybe put invisibility on Mega Man upon approaching the enemy.

Unfortunately for her the enemy approaches her from above, kills her, and just moshes on her team.

Team Jump
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Team Sigma

Yeah, power gap is too great here. Sigma >> Mega Man even with 2 lives. Also, even if Geralt totally flubs the jump, he can still chuck a freezing bomb to mess up Team Celes' day. Having Lu Bu Lite is pretty nice too.
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Two Mega Man lives gives me some pause, but I think Yuffie can heal up Sigma enough between fights that he'll be good to go by the time Mega Man gets back. Celes is dead when Sigma falls on her, and Geralt can take Nightmare Geese.
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meg to the meg to the mega man
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