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FrisbeeDude
06/26/17 10:31:34 AM
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https://thinkprogress.org/philando-castile-settlement-4b1a4593dc6e

Valerie Castile will receive nearly $3 million from the city of St. Anthony, Minnesota, family lawyers announced Monday.
The payment preempts a wrongful death lawsuit over St. Anthony Police Officer Jeronimo Yanez’s killing of Castile’s son Philando last summer. Yanez was acquitted of criminal charges in the killing, where video shows him shooting Castile point-blank as the man and his girlfriend try to explain to the officer that Castile’s licensed fire-arm is in the car.
While comparable in size to other police killings settlements, the deal announced Monday is enormous in the context of the tiny suburb’s fiscal reality. The 9,000-person municipality has a total annual budget of around $7 million, half of which goes to the standalone St. Anthony Police Department. The settlement, which would nearly bankrupt the city if paid directly from general revenues, will be paid through St. Anthony’s municipal insurance.


Another case of incompetent police being left off the hook and leaving taxpayers to clean up their mess
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gatorsPENSbucs
06/26/17 10:33:24 AM
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Why the shit is she getting 3 million dollars. Couple hundred bucks to the dudes child sure, but to the mom? Makes no sense.
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CableZL
06/26/17 10:34:57 AM
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gatorsPENSbucs posted...
Why the shit is she getting 3 million dollars. Couple hundred bucks to the dudes child sure, but to the mom? Makes no sense.


Typically, 4 year olds can't file lawsuits.
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pikachupwnage
06/26/17 10:35:41 AM
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Under the circumstances even with a wrongful death that is too damn much.

Fuckin bullshit.
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545x39
06/26/17 10:39:10 AM
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pikachupwnage posted...
Under the circumstances even with a wrongful death that is too damn much.

Fuckin bullshit.


How much are your family members worth?
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FrisbeeDude
06/26/17 10:40:02 AM
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In mean it's a totally fair, next settlement. I just find it funny how often these payouts occur and how local citizens don't respond with calls for police reform
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OctilIery
06/26/17 10:40:18 AM
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I'm fine with this. Legally he wasn't guilty, but that cop was way too on edge.
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Twinmold
06/26/17 10:40:58 AM
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*Cops kills innocent man*

CE: I'm fine with this.

*City awards payout to murdered wife*

CE: TRAVESTY! How will life go on with this great injustice!?
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Anarchy_Juiblex
06/26/17 10:41:13 AM
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pikachupwnage posted...
Under the circumstances even with a wrongful death that is too damn much.

Fuckin bullshit.


Your post is fucking bullshit. It needs to be painful to the city, to tax payers, and to the police if there's going to be any reform.
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OctilIery
06/26/17 10:42:01 AM
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pikachupwnage posted...
Under the circumstances even with a wrongful death that is too damn much.

Fuckin bullshit.

gatorsPENSbucs posted...
Why the shit is she getting 3 million dollars. Couple hundred bucks to the dudes child sure, but to the mom? Makes no sense.

Shut the fuck up.
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Jagr_68
06/26/17 10:43:34 AM
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Fairest of nexts.

Maybe now the city's PD will do a better job on training officers to not react like triggerhappy cowards under non-distress situations.
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Blue_Inigo
06/26/17 10:43:38 AM
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OctilIery posted...
pikachupwnage posted...
Under the circumstances even with a wrongful death that is too damn much.

Fuckin bullshit.

gatorsPENSbucs posted...
Why the shit is she getting 3 million dollars. Couple hundred bucks to the dudes child sure, but to the mom? Makes no sense.

Shut the fuck up.

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The Admiral
06/26/17 10:43:46 AM
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This woman -- whose son was wrongfully killed and deserves the money -- only gets $3 million, when Slippin' Freddie Gray killed himself trying to get cash from the police, and his mom got $6.4 million.

Something sure isn't right with these payouts.
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gatorsPENSbucs
06/26/17 10:44:47 AM
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OctilIery posted...
pikachupwnage posted...
Under the circumstances even with a wrongful death that is too damn much.

Fuckin bullshit.

gatorsPENSbucs posted...
Why the shit is she getting 3 million dollars. Couple hundred bucks to the dudes child sure, but to the mom? Makes no sense.

Shut the fuck up.

Bla bla bla.

But it's cool, that $3 mil will be given right back to the state probably within like a month.
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Anarchy_Juiblex
06/26/17 10:45:21 AM
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The Admiral posted...
This woman -- whose son was wrongfully killed and deserves the money -- only gets $3 million, when Slippin' Freddie Gray killed himself trying to get cash from the police, and his mom got $6.4 million.

Something sure isn't right with these payouts.


Different cities, states, counties, judges, juries, lawyers, circumstances of each case, etc etc etc etc

I'm not saying that this deserves less than the Gray case, but you can't really honestly compare the 2 as if 1 entity is deciding on them.
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FrisbeeDude
06/26/17 10:46:54 AM
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But it's cool, that $3 mil will be given right back to the state probably within like a month.

When all else fails, go racist
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gatorsPENSbucs
06/26/17 10:47:35 AM
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FrisbeeDude posted...
But it's cool, that $3 mil will be given right back to the state probably within like a month.

When all else fails, go racist

Huh? Can you enlighten me how that's racist?
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FrisbeeDude
06/26/17 10:52:20 AM
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gatorsPENSbucs posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
But it's cool, that $3 mil will be given right back to the state probably within like a month.

When all else fails, go racist

Huh? Can you enlighten me how that's racist?


Sure
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Smoke944
06/26/17 10:52:20 AM
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The Admiral posted...
This woman -- whose son was wrongfully killed and deserves the money -- only gets $3 million, when Slippin' Freddie Gray killed himself trying to get cash from the police, and his mom got $6.4 million.

Something sure isn't right with these payouts.


Yikes
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gatorsPENSbucs
06/26/17 10:54:26 AM
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FrisbeeDude posted...
gatorsPENSbucs posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
But it's cool, that $3 mil will be given right back to the state probably within like a month.

When all else fails, go racist

Huh? Can you enlighten me how that's racist?


Sure

No, come on, please, tell me how that was racist.

I would love to hear your racist answer so I can explain my non racist answer.

But you probably already realized that and are thinking of ways to back pedal.
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Gafemage
06/26/17 10:55:18 AM
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Blue_Inigo posted...
OctilIery posted...
pikachupwnage posted...
Under the circumstances even with a wrongful death that is too damn much.

Fuckin bullshit.

gatorsPENSbucs posted...
Why the shit is she getting 3 million dollars. Couple hundred bucks to the dudes child sure, but to the mom? Makes no sense.

Shut the fuck up.

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FrisbeeDude
06/26/17 10:57:06 AM
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gatorsPENSbucs posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
gatorsPENSbucs posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
But it's cool, that $3 mil will be given right back to the state probably within like a month.

When all else fails, go racist

Huh? Can you enlighten me how that's racist?


Sure

No, come on, please, tell me how that was racist.

I would love to hear your racist answer so I can explain my non racist answer.

But you probably already realized that and are thinking of ways to back pedal.


Just a minute
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Bio1590
06/26/17 10:58:11 AM
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
The Admiral posted...
This woman -- whose son was wrongfully killed and deserves the money -- only gets $3 million, when Slippin' Freddie Gray killed himself trying to get cash from the police, and his mom got $6.4 million.

Something sure isn't right with these payouts.


Different cities, states, counties, judges, juries, lawyers, circumstances of each case, etc etc etc etc

I'm not saying that this deserves less than the Gray case, but you can't really honestly compare the 2 as if 1 entity is deciding on them.

Admiral blew his load over the Freddie Gray case. Totally not surprised he's still bringing it up.
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The Admiral
06/26/17 11:10:18 AM
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Bio1590 posted...
Admiral blew his load over the Freddie Gray case. Totally not surprised he's still bringing it up.


You mean Admiral was right and you guys -- who jumped on the racial oppression bandwagon immediately -- were humiliated and don't want to be reminded of it.
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Questionmarktarius
06/26/17 11:12:56 AM
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gatorsPENSbucs posted...
Why the shit is she getting 3 million dollars. Couple hundred bucks to the dudes child sure, but to the mom? Makes no sense.

Why the shit is a town of 9000 spending 4.5 million on its police? Are they buying a few tanks every year?
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eston
06/26/17 11:18:51 AM
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The settlement, which would nearly bankrupt the city if paid directly from general revenues, will be paid through St. Anthony’s municipal insurance.

So basically not a problem
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gatorsPENSbucs
06/26/17 11:19:02 AM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
gatorsPENSbucs posted...
Why the shit is she getting 3 million dollars. Couple hundred bucks to the dudes child sure, but to the mom? Makes no sense.

Why the shit is a town of 9000 spending 4.5 million on its police? Are they buying a few tanks every year?

Yah that seems pretty fucked up as well. Wonder what type of cars they got.
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ChromaticAngel
06/26/17 11:20:17 AM
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gatorsPENSbucs posted...
Why the shit is she getting 3 million dollars. Couple hundred bucks to the dudes child sure, but to the mom? Makes no sense.

Castile was murdered, why would he get the money and not his mother?
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OctilIery
06/26/17 11:21:17 AM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
gatorsPENSbucs posted...
Why the shit is she getting 3 million dollars. Couple hundred bucks to the dudes child sure, but to the mom? Makes no sense.

Why the shit is a town of 9000 spending 4.5 million on its police? Are they buying a few tanks every year?

That isn't unreasonable at all.
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coolboy11
06/26/17 11:26:55 AM
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said it before but small cities should not have their own police departments, they pretty much are only good for grabbing pot heads, speed traps and greasing their top brasses pockets any serious investigations generally have to either be turned over to the state anyway.
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gatorsPENSbucs
06/26/17 11:45:47 AM
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ChromaticAngel posted...
gatorsPENSbucs posted...
Why the shit is she getting 3 million dollars. Couple hundred bucks to the dudes child sure, but to the mom? Makes no sense.

Castile was murdered, why would he get the money and not his mother?

Im talking about Castiles child. He had a kid right? Except funeral costs and all that jazz, that money should go right into savings for that kid.
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fire_bolt
06/26/17 11:47:21 AM
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On the one hand, I'm glad she got the money. On the other, I wish it had been A LOT MORE. Poor guy was straight up murdered for no reason. That police department needs slapped the fuck down so they train their officers better. I'd rather the city goes bankrupt than have another completely innocent person killed because of basic incompetence.
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Anarchy_Juiblex
06/26/17 11:50:17 AM
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gatorsPENSbucs posted...
that money should go right into savings for that kid.


All of that . . .

. . . Couple hundred bucks


Go love yourself. No one gives a shit how you feel a "couple hundred bucks" should be allocated.
Yes, I'm quoting a fucking Bieber song. You lost all credibility first your first post.
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gatorsPENSbucs
06/26/17 11:51:41 AM
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
gatorsPENSbucs posted...
that money should go right into savings for that kid.


All of that . . .

. . . Couple hundred bucks


Go love yourself. Yes, I'm quoting a fucking Bieber song. You lost all credibility first your first post.

Child, please.
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Sada_Pop
06/26/17 11:52:09 AM
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3 mill isn't enough
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E32005
06/26/17 11:54:34 AM
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Sada_Pop posted...
3 mill isn't enough

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E32005
06/26/17 11:54:49 AM
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MuayThai85
06/26/17 11:56:21 AM
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fire_bolt posted...
On the one hand, I'm glad she got the money. On the other, I wish it had been A LOT MORE. Poor guy was straight up murdered for no reason. That police department needs slapped the fuck down so they train their officers better. I'd rather the city goes bankrupt than have another completely innocent person killed because of basic incompetence.


"Don't reach for it" being shouted at you multiple times and you're still stupid enough to reach in that vacinity isn't considered murder in my eyes. If I have a gun in my face and a cop tells me not to move my hands, I'm not moving them. If I was legal carrying, told the cop that I was and he was still aiming a gun in my face, both my hands won't be moving from the steering wheel and they'll have to remove me from the car.
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Anarchy_Juiblex
06/26/17 12:08:23 PM
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MuayThai85 posted...
tells me not to move my hands


This didn't happen.
He said "don't reach for it (the gun)." while Castile was reaching for his wallet.

This Castile has a brainfart moment and died because of it. And because of a shitty, cowardly, prejudice, ill-trained officer.
Murder probably isn't the right charge but holy fuck, this shouldn't have happened.
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GeneralZhao
06/26/17 12:14:23 PM
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
pikachupwnage posted...


Your post is fucking bullshit. It needs to be painful to the city, to tax payers, and to the police if there's going to be any reform.


This post is so moronic it hurts
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The Admiral
06/26/17 12:16:27 PM
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GeneralZhao posted...
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
pikachupwnage posted...
Under the circumstances even with a wrongful death that is too damn much.

Fuckin bullshit.


Your post is fucking bullshit. It needs to be painful to the city, to tax payers, and to the police if there's going to be any reform.


This post is so moronic it hurts


He doesn't even realize what he's saying. This is the kind of ignorant knee-jerk policy that would disproportionately hurt poor people and minorities receiving local government services. And then, when that happened, he'd just cry racism and cluelessly wonder how this could be happening.
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ChromaticAngel
06/26/17 12:18:10 PM
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gatorsPENSbucs posted...
ChromaticAngel posted...
gatorsPENSbucs posted...
Why the shit is she getting 3 million dollars. Couple hundred bucks to the dudes child sure, but to the mom? Makes no sense.

Castile was murdered, why would he get the money and not his mother?

Im talking about Castiles child. He had a kid right? Except funeral costs and all that jazz, that money should go right into savings for that kid.


I think that it wasn't his kid, but not sure. The kid had a different last name, so I think he was dating a single mom. Because they weren't married, either, she has no power of attorney to get damages the way the mother does.
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Anarchy_Juiblex
06/26/17 12:22:50 PM
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The Admiral posted...
GeneralZhao posted...
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
pikachupwnage posted...
Under the circumstances even with a wrongful death that is too damn much.

Fuckin bullshit.


Your post is fucking bullshit. It needs to be painful to the city, to tax payers, and to the police if there's going to be any reform.


This post is so moronic it hurts


He doesn't even realize what he's saying. This is the kind of ignorant knee-jerk policy that would disproportionately hurt poor people and minorities receiving local government services. And then, when that happened, he'd just cry racism and cluelessly wonder how this could be happening.


I thought you knew me better than that Addy.
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The Admiral
06/26/17 12:24:21 PM
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
The Admiral posted...
GeneralZhao posted...
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
pikachupwnage posted...
Under the circumstances even with a wrongful death that is too damn much.

Fuckin bullshit.


Your post is fucking bullshit. It needs to be painful to the city, to tax payers, and to the police if there's going to be any reform.


This post is so moronic it hurts


He doesn't even realize what he's saying. This is the kind of ignorant knee-jerk policy that would disproportionately hurt poor people and minorities receiving local government services. And then, when that happened, he'd just cry racism and cluelessly wonder how this could be happening.


I thought you knew me better than that Addy.


I thought I did too. That's why I don't get comments like that.
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Questionmarktarius
06/26/17 12:24:48 PM
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The Admiral posted...
He doesn't even realize what he's saying. This is the kind of ignorant knee-jerk policy that would disproportionately hurt poor people and minorities receiving local government services. And then, when that happened, he'd just cry racism and cluelessly wonder how this could be happening.

This is usually the part where a city jacks up the water rates, inevitably causing a death-spiral of more deadbeats leading to more rate increases leading to more deadbeats.
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fire_bolt
06/26/17 12:32:27 PM
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MuayThai85 posted...
fire_bolt posted...
On the one hand, I'm glad she got the money. On the other, I wish it had been A LOT MORE. Poor guy was straight up murdered for no reason. That police department needs slapped the fuck down so they train their officers better. I'd rather the city goes bankrupt than have another completely innocent person killed because of basic incompetence.


"Don't reach for it" being shouted at you multiple times and you're still stupid enough to reach in that vacinity isn't considered murder in my eyes. If I have a gun in my face and a cop tells me not to move my hands, I'm not moving them. If I was legal carrying, told the cop that I was and he was still aiming a gun in my face, both my hands won't be moving from the steering wheel and they'll have to remove me from the car.



Cop: "License and registration please."

Victim: "Sure thing officer. Also, I'm a registered gun owner and my pistol is in the car."

Cop: "DON'T REACH FOR IT"

Victim: "Just getting you my license and registration, officer."

Cop: *Unloads an entire clip into a guy sitting in his car, complying with orders, less than 2 minutes after pulling the guy over*

Stop fucking victim blaming. This is the clearest case of police failing to simply follow protocol of all time. The cop didn't even SEE the gun, he was TOLD there was a gun in the car and his response was to shoot the guy 6 times.

I wouldn't charge the guy with first degree murder but second degree ("In the heat of the moment") would be COMPLETELY justified. The actions taken by that officer were so far over the top that it's ridiculous. Even his partner thought so.
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Anarchy_Juiblex
06/26/17 12:39:37 PM
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fire_bolt posted...
Cop: *Unloads an entire clip


Magazine.
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StarReaper13
06/26/17 12:58:45 PM
#48:


gatorsPENSbucs posted...
OctilIery posted...
pikachupwnage posted...
Under the circumstances even with a wrongful death that is too damn much.

Fuckin bullshit.

gatorsPENSbucs posted...
Why the shit is she getting 3 million dollars. Couple hundred bucks to the dudes child sure, but to the mom? Makes no sense.

Shut the fuck up.

Bla bla bla.

But it's cool, that $3 mil will be given right back to the state probably within like a month.

What do you mean by this?
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OctilIery
06/26/17 12:58:54 PM
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fire_bolt posted...
MuayThai85 posted...
fire_bolt posted...
On the one hand, I'm glad she got the money. On the other, I wish it had been A LOT MORE. Poor guy was straight up murdered for no reason. That police department needs slapped the fuck down so they train their officers better. I'd rather the city goes bankrupt than have another completely innocent person killed because of basic incompetence.


"Don't reach for it" being shouted at you multiple times and you're still stupid enough to reach in that vacinity isn't considered murder in my eyes. If I have a gun in my face and a cop tells me not to move my hands, I'm not moving them. If I was legal carrying, told the cop that I was and he was still aiming a gun in my face, both my hands won't be moving from the steering wheel and they'll have to remove me from the car.



Cop: "License and registration please."

Victim: "Sure thing officer. Also, I'm a registered gun owner and my pistol is in the car."

Cop: "DON'T REACH FOR IT"

Victim: "Just getting you my license and registration, officer."

Cop: *Unloads an entire clip into a guy sitting in his car, complying with orders, less than 2 minutes after pulling the guy over*

Stop fucking victim blaming. This is the clearest case of police failing to simply follow protocol of all time. The cop didn't even SEE the gun, he was TOLD there was a gun in the car and his response was to shoot the guy 6 times.

I wouldn't charge the guy with first degree murder but second degree ("In the heat of the moment") would be COMPLETELY justified. The actions taken by that officer were so far over the top that it's ridiculous. Even his partner thought so.

It's an overreaction, but any legal case is going to have to prove that he knew Castille wasn't reaching for a gun, which they can't. But at least the cop is off the force now.
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Kaname_Madoka
06/26/17 1:01:38 PM
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I'll never get why the trained guy on government payroll is allowed to be the coward.
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