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Kineth 06/27/17 4:59:20 PM #153: |
scaler24 posted...
_OujiDoza_ posted..."Don't use that word because I can't use it!" It's a word that refers to a select group of people and you're still prattling on about this bullshit. As has been pointed out, there's nothing preventing you from saying it too. --- If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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1NfamousACE_2 06/27/17 5:00:52 PM #154: |
Kineth posted...
scaler24 posted..._OujiDoza_ posted..."Don't use that word because I can't use it!" Just scared of the reprecussions. It's not like we're saying it in professional settings. --- #Free OJ Simpson ... Copied to Clipboard!
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scaler24 06/27/17 5:04:10 PM #155: |
Kineth posted...
It's a word that refers to a select group of people and you're still prattling on about this bullshit. As has been pointed out, there's nothing preventing you from saying it too. First off, I don't give a crap about saying the word. It's a dumb, derogatory word that people think is "cool" for some reason. Second of all, even if I wanted to say it, there would be a very little thing that would stop me: The fact that I would get my ass kicked or fired from my job for saying it if I'm not black. And if a word is so offensive that it can cause such a reaction on people, then it might aswell be outright banned, just like Swastikas in every functioning modern society. --- "Anything that comes out of Annie that you try and spread on toast just gets you arrested" PSN: LightningLoops - LoL(LAN): Scaler ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kineth 06/27/17 5:07:12 PM #156: |
1NfamousACE_2 posted...
Kineth posted...scaler24 posted..._OujiDoza_ posted..."Don't use that word because I can't use it!" Well, here's the thing. Just ask the person if it's ok, but if you're gonna use the term, make sure you've already built up some rapport with them before broaching the subject, because at that point it just looks like "hey black guy, let's talk about black stuff and use that jive talk I hear that y'all use." It should always be a case by case basis, but yeah, never in a professional setting. --- If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ThanksUglyGod 06/27/17 5:08:01 PM #157: |
Why is this such a big deal? Just don't say it if you're not black. And if you are black, just don't say it around people who are uncomfortable with it.
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young_flip 06/27/17 5:09:57 PM #158: |
they definitely shouldn't be allowed to, or rather, they shouldn't want to. in trying to take ownership of that pejorative they unconsciously associate themselves to its original meaning.
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hollow_shrine 06/27/17 5:10:40 PM #159: |
scaler24 posted...
_OujiDoza_ posted..."Don't use that word because I can't use it!" Don't reduce it to skin color. There are several posts in this topic explaining the intersections of shared history, culture, and solidarity which define the social boundaries of certain pieces of slang. I'm not telling you something you don't already know, something that hasn't already been laid out in detail three or four times in this very topic. You accept that certain ways of associating with people can become inappropriate depending upon the context (Who is talking to who? How well do they know one another? etc). It's why you don't stroll up to older strangers reminiscing about your nostalgia. Your experiences are not the same. In fact, depending upon some of those contextual details, such a conversation might even be presumptuous, informal and uncooth. If you can understand the wrinkles of that, than you can understand why certain phrases and slang may be culturally available to you, and why you use them at risk to your own social capital. --- https://i.imgtc.com/72JF7CA.jpg (by mark2000) 13 Transwomen of color have been murdered since 1/1/2017 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kineth 06/27/17 5:15:40 PM #160: |
scaler24 posted...
First off, I don't give a crap about saying the word. It's a dumb, derogatory word that people think is "cool" for some reason. You wouldn't have made the topic if you didn't give a crap about it. As for the rest of this quote. Kineth posted... I wonder how many people in this topic thing '-a' and '-er' are the same word and are conflating the two. Second of all, even if I wanted to say it, there would be a very little thing that would stop me: The fact that I would get my ass kicked or fired from my job for saying it if I'm not black. Well, yeah, but that doesn't have to do with your point about words being exclusive to people. And if a word is so offensive that it can cause such a reaction on people, then it might aswell be outright banned, just like Swastikas in every functioning modern society. Good thing we live in a country with free speech. I personally don't like its prevalence either, but I'm against the "-a" usage and I'm pretty sure that most, if not all of us are not ok with the "-er" usage. --- If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kineth 06/27/17 5:16:49 PM #161: |
hollow_shrine posted...
scaler24 posted..._OujiDoza_ posted..."Don't use that word because I can't use it!" Well said. --- If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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scaler24 06/27/17 5:21:28 PM #162: |
Kineth posted...
You wouldn't have made the topic if you didn't give a crap about it. As for the rest of this quote. I mean, I think it's weird, but that doesn't mean I want to use it. The distinction just doesn't make sense to me, which is why I started this topic. Kineth posted... Good thing we live in a country with free speech. Honestly, even in this country, freedom of speech only goes so far. Saying insane stuff like "Hitler was right and the Holocaust was the right thing to do" or "I wish I could get a gun so I can kill all of my classmates" will lost likely get you arrested. --- "Anything that comes out of Annie that you try and spread on toast just gets you arrested" PSN: LightningLoops - LoL(LAN): Scaler ... Copied to Clipboard!
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VandorLee 06/27/17 5:22:00 PM #163: |
I hate these topics because im greatly censored having to dance around the ToS. You might as well ask me this question at work whered id lie to you and just say "I dont know" and totally avoid the conversation because its just a bad topic at work.
And theyll get offended anyways and thats "offensive material" or youre just fired at work for offending a race. Because "politics" is the safe, correct answer. --- "God didn't create humans, no, it's humans who created God." Dr. Londes, Cowboy Bebop: "Brain Scratch" (#1.23) (1999) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ReignFury 06/27/17 5:38:15 PM #164: |
VandorLee posted...
I hate these topics because im greatly censored having to dance around the ToS. You might as well ask me this question at work whered id lie to you and just say "I dont know" and totally avoid the conversation because its just a bad topic at work. I don't think it's a case of people wanting to be overtly racist but more to be dismissive and undermine what black people experience. --- MAKE AMERICA SMART AGAIN http://i.giftrunk.com/rv4b2c.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mystere 06/27/17 7:07:58 PM #165: |
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1NfamousACE_2 06/27/17 7:14:13 PM #166: |
Kineth posted...
1NfamousACE_2 posted...Kineth posted...scaler24 posted..._OujiDoza_ posted..."Don't use that word because I can't use it!" I mean, as a black man, the word doesn't bother me. I've had white people use it, Spanish, Asian...whatever. it was used as a term of endearment and not racist. Obviously it's different for different people. as you said, anyone that said it around me had a rapport with me. --- #Free OJ Simpson ... Copied to Clipboard!
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cjsdowg 06/27/17 9:04:15 PM #167: |
Are the people who complain about it the most ,are the people who are normally using and just want to use it more?
I use to make fat jokes,now that I am not that fat anymore I can't,without hurting someone. I don't find myself complaining about this. Why are people over and over with the N-word stuff. --- Bender: Well, everybody, I just saved a turtle. What have you done with your lives? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Stick_1_2_3 06/27/17 9:35:38 PM #168: |
scaler24 posted...
Kineth posted...You wouldn't have made the topic if you didn't give a crap about it. As for the rest of this quote. Then you don't understand freedom of speech. Why the hell would you make a threat like that? --- Women who don't shave down there are repulsive ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mystere 06/27/17 10:46:25 PM #169: |
For the same reason people don't openly mock Islam. Apparently violent responses to things you dislike gets results.
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Xelltrix 06/27/17 10:47:54 PM #170: |
Mystere posted...
For the same reason people don't openly mock Islam. Apparently violent responses to things you dislike gets results. True, murdering Native Americans certainly worked out for the Europeans. --- Reading this post may induce one or more of the following: Nausea / Butt-Hurt / Lulz / UM? Syndrome / Angst / Diarrhea ... Copied to Clipboard!
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apocalyptic_4 06/27/17 10:49:20 PM #171: |
The shit I read on CE
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Xelltrix 06/27/17 10:51:57 PM #172: |
cjsdowg posted...
Are the people who complain about it the most ,are the people who are normally using and just want to use it more? Probably don't have any black friends or they wouldn't care/would use it without bothering to complain and post these topics all the time. --- Reading this post may induce one or more of the following: Nausea / Butt-Hurt / Lulz / UM? Syndrome / Angst / Diarrhea ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ModLogic 06/27/17 11:22:19 PM #173: |
hollow_shrine posted...
Don't reduce it to skin color. "dont use it if you're not black or else!" --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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shanefu22 06/27/17 11:38:03 PM #174: |
White people have no say in the matter AND they should never say it. It's literally not even up for debate.
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DELFON 06/27/17 11:44:18 PM #175: |
Freddie_Mercury posted...
why do white people want to say it so badly --- Just my two cents. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RchHomieQuanChi 06/27/17 11:48:50 PM #176: |
scaler24 posted...
It's not like it's acceptable for homosexual people to use the f-word, You clearly must not interact with a lot of gay people --- I have nothing else to say ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DELFON 06/27/17 11:49:17 PM #177: |
DonaldClinton posted...
The point is that it's only offensive if you say it and you're not black. What are you not getting? Lol This guy gets it --- Just my two cents. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 06/27/17 11:50:16 PM #178: |
Maybe it's time for whites to take back the H-word?
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DocileOrangeCup 06/27/17 11:50:27 PM #179: |
my brother is white and he says it as a "black guy" would and none of his black friends have a problem with it.
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ThanksUglyGod 06/27/17 11:51:21 PM #180: |
Questionmarktarius posted...
Maybe it's time for whites to take back the H-word? Howdy? They can have that. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DELFON 06/27/17 11:53:09 PM #181: |
Xelltrix posted...
We did, however, care about that Plantation style dinner party... Yeah. That was pretty fucked up --- Just my two cents. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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kg88222 06/27/17 11:54:09 PM #182: |
n words in general are usually pretty bad. Whenever i read an article that says never or no one thinks this or whatever usually they are wrong. The itnernet is creating a generation of idiots that way. mind control. better to not worry about it and stay away.
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