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Anarchy_Juiblex 06/27/17 1:15:44 PM #1:	https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-06-27/google-gets-record-2-7-billion-eu-fine-for-skewing-searches as they did with Apple . . . http://fortune.com/2016/09/05/eu-apple-tax-political/ Because they're evil bureaucrats with no sense of jurisdiction, actual fairness, or individual rights. Fuck the EU. --- "Tolerance of intolerance is cowardice." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali <cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted [p:881902898] in EU scum fu... [t:75506552]...</cite> <quote>https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-06-27/google-gets-record-2-7-billion-eu-fine-for-skewing-searches as they did with Apple . . . http://fortune.com/2016/09/05/eu-apple-tax-political/ Because they're evil bureaucrats with no sense of jurisdiction, actual fairness, or individual rights. Fuck the EU.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Marmitecashews 06/27/17 1:18:10 PM #2:	If Google were to follow competition rules, they wouldn't get fined. --- Breitbart has been caught lying so many times that you might as well call it Liebart. <cite>Marmitecashews posted [p:881903023] in EU scum fu... [t:75506552]...</cite> <quote>If Google were to follow competition rules, they wouldn't get fined.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Paper_Okami 06/27/17 1:19:44 PM #3:	Marmitecashews posted... If Google were to follow competition rules, they wouldn't get fined. --- "Conceit, arrogance and egotism are the essentials of patriotism"- Emma Goldman "Wimmy Wham Wham Wozzle!" -Slurms MacKenzie <cite>Paper_Okami posted [p:881903105] in EU scum fu... [t:75506552]...</cite> <quote><cite>Marmitecashews posted...</cite> <quote>If Google were to follow competition rules, they wouldn't get fined.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Stagmar 06/27/17 1:22:11 PM #4:	Paper_Okami posted... Marmitecashews posted... If Google were to follow competition rules, they wouldn't get fined. --- 11/11/1572 -- Never Forget. <cite>Stagmar posted [p:881903247] in EU scum fu... [t:75506552]...</cite> <quote><cite>Paper_Okami posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Marmitecashews posted...</cite> <quote>If Google were to follow competition rules, they wouldn't get fined.</quote></quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 06/27/17 1:22:45 PM #5:	Stagmar posted... Paper_Okami posted... Marmitecashews posted... If Google were to follow competition rules, they wouldn't get fined. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:881903280] in EU scum fu... [t:75506552]...</cite> <quote><cite>Stagmar posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Paper_Okami posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Marmitecashews posted...</cite> <quote>If Google were to follow competition rules, they wouldn't get fined.</quote></quote></quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NeuralLaxative 06/27/17 1:44:24 PM #6:	Scum fucks --- http://i.imgur.com/JW8T9kW.gif ---> http://i.imgur.com/UforGKe.gif <cite>NeuralLaxative posted [p:881904566] in EU scum fu... [t:75506552]...</cite> <quote>Scum fucks</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Link HT 06/27/17 1:45:10 PM #7:	Imagine defending google in 2017 --- http://i.imgur.com/Tx1FX.jpg <cite>Link HT posted [p:881904611] in EU scum fu... [t:75506552]...</cite> <quote>Imagine defending google in 2017</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funkydog 06/27/17 1:45:17 PM #8:	Not fair. What is the point of being a big corporation if you have to follow the rules?! --- http://i.imgur.com/BGbZK.gif <cite>Funkydog posted [p:881904620] in EU scum fu... [t:75506552]...</cite> <quote>Not fair. What is the point of being a big corporation if you have to follow the rules?!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anarchy_Juiblex 06/27/17 2:10:45 PM #9:	It's a stupid rule, do they not own their own site? https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-06-26/why-the-eu-will-slap-google-over-product-searches-quicktake-q-a Essentially, Google has to change how its search function works. That%u2019s like telling a carmaker to change the way its cars drive. Given how lucrative promoting its comparison shopping has been for Google, that%u2019s a blow. "Hey google, you're too successful, fuck you" ~ European globalist commies --- "Tolerance of intolerance is cowardice." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali <cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted [p:881906195] in EU scum fu... [t:75506552]...</cite> <quote>It's a stupid rule, do they not own their own site? https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-06-26/why-the-eu-will-slap-google-over-product-searches-quicktake-q-a Essentially, Google has to change how its search function works. That%u2019s like telling a carmaker to change the way its cars drive. Given how lucrative promoting its comparison shopping has been for Google, that%u2019s a blow. "Hey google, you're too successful, fuck you" ~ European globalist commies</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkphoenix181 06/27/17 2:14:00 PM #10:	this makes no sense the whole point of google is that you pay to have your site in the top searches how is the fineable? google is not a utility service or a human right google is not an economy if they dislike google and want it broken up, they should just ban it in their country --- sigless user is me or am I? <cite>darkphoenix181 posted [p:881906386] in EU scum fu... [t:75506552]...</cite> <quote>this makes no sense the whole point of google is that you pay to have your site in the top searches how is the fineable? google is not a utility service or a human right google is not an economy if they dislike google and want it broken up, they should just ban it in their country</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anarchy_Juiblex 06/27/17 2:17:44 PM #11:	darkphoenix181 posted... google is not a utility service or a human right "We own you, your work, your intellectual property." ~ Commies/slavemasters --- "Tolerance of intolerance is cowardice." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali <cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted [p:881906607] in EU scum fu... [t:75506552]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkphoenix181 posted...</cite> <quote>google is not a utility service or a human right</quote> "We own you, your work, your intellectual property." ~ Commies/slavemasters</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funkydog 06/27/17 2:19:07 PM #12:	Well. Looking into it very briefly. I'm.. not really sure what the EU wants. They seem to be asking for impossible, unless I am completely misunderstanding their desire. They want google to show pictures from every comparison site in existence. Equally. On one screen? --- http://i.imgur.com/BGbZK.gif <cite>Funkydog posted [p:881906697] in EU scum fu... [t:75506552]...</cite> <quote>Well. Looking into it very briefly. I'm.. not really sure what the EU wants. They seem to be asking for impossible, unless I am completely misunderstanding their desire. They want google to show pictures from every comparison site in existence. Equally. On one screen?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 06/27/17 2:19:38 PM #13:	The problem is Google isn't controlled by the EU. They don't like that their little group doesn't have control over everything globally, so they'll just fine-nuke people into compliance. They did with Apple. They did it with Facebook. They're doing it with Google. "Follow our rules even though they're not the international standard or we'll ruin you" --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:881906722] in EU scum fu... [t:75506552]...</cite> <quote>The problem is Google isn't controlled by the EU. They don't like that their little group doesn't have control over everything globally, so they'll just fine-nuke people into compliance. They did with Apple. They did it with Facebook. They're doing it with Google. "Follow our rules even though they're not the international standard or we'll ruin you"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Webmaster4531 06/27/17 2:20:17 PM #14:	darkphoenix181 posted... if they dislike google and want it broken up, they should just ban it in their country That's probably the plan. --- Ad Hominem. <cite>Webmaster4531 posted [p:881906765] in EU scum fu... [t:75506552]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkphoenix181 posted...</cite> <quote>if they dislike google and want it broken up, they should just ban it in their country</quote> That's probably the plan.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkphoenix181 06/27/17 2:23:43 PM #16:	Funkydog posted... Well. Looking into it very briefly. I'm.. not really sure what the EU wants. They seem to be asking for impossible, unless I am completely misunderstanding their desire. They want google to show pictures from every comparison site in existence. Equally. On one screen? I think this is the first step to trying to decouple search engine from being monetized and being completely free and a human right basically they hate google itself --- sigless user is me or am I? <cite>darkphoenix181 posted [p:881906971] in EU scum fu... [t:75506552]...</cite> <quote><cite>Funkydog posted...</cite> <quote>Well. Looking into it very briefly. I'm.. not really sure what the EU wants. They seem to be asking for impossible, unless I am completely misunderstanding their desire. They want google to show pictures from every comparison site in existence. Equally. On one screen?</quote> I think this is the first step to trying to decouple search engine from being monetized and being completely free and a human right basically they hate google itself</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Clad 06/27/17 2:25:53 PM #17:	Hopefully Google tells them to fuck off. --- "Conservatives are Nazi's." - scoobydoobydont "I just looked and amazon.com doesnt sell sex" - Complete_Idi0t <cite>Clad posted [p:881907108] in EU scum fu... [t:75506552]...</cite> <quote>Hopefully Google tells them to fuck off.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funkydog 06/27/17 2:26:00 PM #18:	darkphoenix181 posted... and being completely free and a human right I mean, it is free pretty much already. But unless the governments want to start funding it all, it needs to make money somehow. And they will need to fund it in someway too. So just makes less and less sense >.> --- http://i.imgur.com/BGbZK.gif <cite>Funkydog posted [p:881907116] in EU scum fu... [t:75506552]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkphoenix181 posted...</cite> <quote>and being completely free and a human right</quote> I mean, it is free pretty much already. But unless the governments want to start funding it all, it needs to make money somehow. And they will need to fund it in someway too. So just makes less and less sense >.></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarthWendy 06/27/17 2:27:32 PM #19:	UnfairRepresent posted... Stagmar posted... Paper_Okami posted... Marmitecashews posted... If Google were to follow competition rules, they wouldn't get fined. --- Ave Caesar, Rosae Rosam et Spiritus Rex ! - Voila, ca ne veut absolument rien dire, mais l'effet reste le meme. http://i.imgur.com/z1pkX.jpg <cite>DarthWendy posted [p:881907207] in EU scum fu... [t:75506552]...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Stagmar posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Paper_Okami posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Marmitecashews posted...</cite> <quote>If Google were to follow competition rules, they wouldn't get fined.</quote></quote></quote></quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anarchy_Juiblex 06/27/17 2:31:24 PM #20:	DarthWendy posted... UnfairRepresent posted... Stagmar posted... Paper_Okami posted... Marmitecashews posted... If Google were to follow competition rules, they wouldn't get fined. I wonder what you guys thought of the TPP . . . I'm guessing there's some hypocrisy and inconsistency afoot. --- "Tolerance of intolerance is cowardice." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali <cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted [p:881907466] in EU scum fu... [t:75506552]...</cite> <quote><cite>DarthWendy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Stagmar posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Paper_Okami posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Marmitecashews posted...</cite> <quote>If Google were to follow competition rules, they wouldn't get fined.</quote></quote></quote></quote></quote> I wonder what you guys thought of the TPP . . . I'm guessing there's some hypocrisy and inconsistency afoot.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 06/27/17 2:32:12 PM #21:	DarthWendy posted... UnfairRepresent posted... Stagmar posted... Paper_Okami posted... Marmitecashews posted... If Google were to follow competition rules, they wouldn't get fined. The search-engine giant will have “the sword of Damocles hanging over its head,” said Jay Modrall, a lawyer for Norton Rose Fulbright in Brussels. That’s because it’s no longer Google’s choice on how it makes changes to allay EU concerns. Instead, it’s “under a legal requirement to do so and under notice that if its commitments are not sufficient, it’ll be fined even more.” That's not "following competition rules." That's subjugation. EDIT: Also, don't forget this part: Failure to comply risks fines of up to 5% of daily revenue So they're literally blackmailing Google with a significant chunk of the whole company's profits. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:881907520] in EU scum fu... [t:75506552]...</cite> <quote><cite>DarthWendy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Stagmar posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Paper_Okami posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Marmitecashews posted...</cite> <quote>If Google were to follow competition rules, they wouldn't get fined.</quote></quote></quote></quote></quote> The search-engine giant will have “the sword of Damocles hanging over its head,” said Jay Modrall, a lawyer for Norton Rose Fulbright in Brussels. That’s because it’s no longer Google’s choice on how it makes changes to allay EU concerns. Instead, it’s “under a legal requirement to do so and under notice that if its commitments are not sufficient, it’ll be fined even more.” That's not "following competition rules." That's subjugation. EDIT: Also, don't forget this part: Failure to comply risks fines of up to 5% of daily revenue So they're literally blackmailing Google with a significant chunk of the whole company's profits.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Webmaster4531 06/27/17 2:34:31 PM #23:	Anarchy_Juiblex posted... DarthWendy posted... UnfairRepresent posted... Stagmar posted... Paper_Okami posted... Marmitecashews posted... If Google were to follow competition rules, they wouldn't get fined. I wonder what you guys thought of the TPP . . . I'm guessing there's some hypocrisy and inconsistency afoot. What are you getting at? You think they're liberals or conservatives? --- Ad Hominem. <cite>Webmaster4531 posted [p:881907667] in EU scum fu... [t:75506552]...</cite> <quote><cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DarthWendy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Stagmar posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Paper_Okami posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Marmitecashews posted...</cite> <quote>If Google were to follow competition rules, they wouldn't get fined.</quote></quote></quote></quote></quote> I wonder what you guys thought of the TPP . . . I'm guessing there's some hypocrisy and inconsistency afoot.</quote> What are you getting at? You think they're liberals or conservatives?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Squall28 06/27/17 2:34:31 PM #24:	darkphoenix181 posted... Funkydog posted... Well. Looking into it very briefly. I'm.. not really sure what the EU wants. They seem to be asking for impossible, unless I am completely misunderstanding their desire. They want google to show pictures from every comparison site in existence. Equally. On one screen? I think this is the first step to trying to decouple search engine from being monetized and being completely free and a human right basically they hate google itself Who would pay for search engines then? --- If you're going through hell, keep going. -Winston Churchill <cite>Squall28 posted [p:881907669] in EU scum fu... [t:75506552]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkphoenix181 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Funkydog posted...</cite> <quote>Well. Looking into it very briefly. I'm.. not really sure what the EU wants. They seem to be asking for impossible, unless I am completely misunderstanding their desire. They want google to show pictures from every comparison site in existence. Equally. On one screen?</quote> I think this is the first step to trying to decouple search engine from being monetized and being completely free and a human right basically they hate google itself</quote> Who would pay for search engines then?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Clad 06/27/17 2:34:41 PM #25:	Anarchy_Juiblex posted... DarthWendy posted... UnfairRepresent posted... Stagmar posted... Paper_Okami posted... Marmitecashews posted... If Google were to follow competition rules, they wouldn't get fined. I wonder what you guys thought of the TPP . . . I'm guessing there's some hypocrisy and inconsistency afoot. This makes me even happier that Trump shut down the TPP. What an abomination. Imagine if this type of thing happened all the time. --- "Conservatives are Nazi's." - scoobydoobydont "I just looked and amazon.com doesnt sell sex" - Complete_Idi0t <cite>Clad posted [p:881907683] in EU scum fu... [t:75506552]...</cite> <quote><cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DarthWendy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Stagmar posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Paper_Okami posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Marmitecashews posted...</cite> <quote>If Google were to follow competition rules, they wouldn't get fined.</quote></quote></quote></quote></quote> I wonder what you guys thought of the TPP . . . I'm guessing there's some hypocrisy and inconsistency afoot.</quote> This makes me even happier that Trump shut down the TPP. What an abomination. Imagine if this type of thing happened all the time.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 06/27/17 2:39:33 PM #26:	Simple solution: Close all Google offices in the EU, today. Relocate the European branch(es) to Switzerland or Norway, as soon as possible. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:881907974] in EU scum fu... [t:75506552]...</cite> <quote>Simple solution: Close all Google offices in the EU, today. Relocate the European branch(es) to Switzerland or Norway, as soon as possible.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Webmaster4531 06/27/17 2:42:31 PM #27:	Questionmarktarius posted... Simple solution: Close all Google offices in the EU, today. Relocate the European branch(es) to Switzerland or Norway, as soon as possible. Webmaster4531 posted... darkphoenix181 posted... if they dislike google and want it broken up, they should just ban it in their country That's probably the plan. --- Ad Hominem. <cite>Webmaster4531 posted [p:881908164] in EU scum fu... [t:75506552]...</cite> <quote><cite>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote>Simple solution: Close all Google offices in the EU, today. Relocate the European branch(es) to Switzerland or Norway, as soon as possible.</quote> <cite>Webmaster4531 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkphoenix181 posted...</cite> <quote>if they dislike google and want it broken up, they should just ban it in their country</quote> That's probably the plan.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GOOMFalse 06/27/17 2:43:02 PM #28:	Lmao this entire situation --- I'm your huckleberry. <cite>GOOMFalse posted [p:881908197] in EU scum fu... [t:75506552]...</cite> <quote>Lmao this entire situation</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkphoenix181 06/27/17 2:49:49 PM #29:	Squall28 posted... Who would pay for search engines then? google would rich pay so the poor can use services free easy --- sigless user is me or am I? <cite>darkphoenix181 posted [p:881908632] in EU scum fu... [t:75506552]...</cite> <quote><cite>Squall28 posted...</cite> <quote>Who would pay for search engines then?</quote> google would rich pay so the poor can use services free easy</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Squall28 06/27/17 2:52:47 PM #30:	darkphoenix181 posted... Squall28 posted... Who would pay for search engines then? google would rich pay so the poor can use services free easy Not sure if srs --- If you're going through hell, keep going. -Winston Churchill <cite>Squall28 posted [p:881908804] in EU scum fu... [t:75506552]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkphoenix181 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Squall28 posted...</cite> <quote>Who would pay for search engines then?</quote> google would rich pay so the poor can use services free easy</quote> Not sure if srs</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 06/27/17 2:53:37 PM #31:	Simpler solution: Disable the "shopping" link and results within EU IP addresses. Delist the other comparison shopping sites anyway. darkphoenix181 posted... I think this is the first step to trying to decouple search engine from being monetized and being completely free and a human right ...whaaaaaaat? <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:881908846] in EU scum fu... [t:75506552]...</cite> <quote>Simpler solution: Disable the "shopping" link and results within EU IP addresses. Delist the other comparison shopping sites anyway. <cite>darkphoenix181 posted...</cite> <quote>I think this is the first step to trying to decouple search engine from being monetized and being completely free and a human right</quote> ...whaaaaaaat?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkphoenix181 06/27/17 2:55:49 PM #32:	Squall28 posted... darkphoenix181 posted... Squall28 posted... Who would pay for search engines then? google would rich pay so the poor can use services free easy Not sure if srs who will pay for universal basic income? the people working and making money will and it will pay the people not working at all same principle if googling is a human right and the platform should be made of equality, then it works same way --- sigless user is me or am I? <cite>darkphoenix181 posted [p:881908970] in EU scum fu... [t:75506552]...</cite> <quote><cite>Squall28 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkphoenix181 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Squall28 posted...</cite> <quote>Who would pay for search engines then?</quote> google would rich pay so the poor can use services free easy</quote> Not sure if srs</quote> who will pay for universal basic income? the people working and making money will and it will pay the people not working at all same principle if googling is a human right and the platform should be made of equality, then it works same way</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 06/27/17 2:58:41 PM #33:	darkphoenix181 posted... if googling is a human right which it's not. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:881909136] in EU scum fu... [t:75506552]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkphoenix181 posted...</cite> <quote>if googling is a human right</quote> which it's not.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
luigi13579 06/27/17 3:16:11 PM #34:	Funkydog posted... They seem to be asking for impossible, unless I am completely misunderstanding their desire. They want google to show pictures from every comparison site in existence. Equally. On one screen? Nah. Presumably they want Google's ranking algorithm to apply the same criteria to all links, rather than placing their sponsored links at the top. To be honest, I think as long as the sponsored links are clearly labeled, then the EU should back off. At the moment, the font is a bit small, but other than that, I don't see the issue. As long as people are not being actively misled. That way, people can easily choose to use a different search engine if they don't like Google's practices with regard to sponsored links. Free market and all. <cite>luigi13579 posted [p:881910187] in EU scum fu... [t:75506552]...</cite> <quote><cite>Funkydog posted...</cite> <quote>They seem to be asking for impossible, unless I am completely misunderstanding their desire. They want google to show pictures from every comparison site in existence. Equally. On one screen?</quote> Nah. Presumably they want Google's ranking algorithm to apply the same criteria to all links, rather than placing their sponsored links at the top. To be honest, I think as long as the sponsored links are clearly labeled, then the EU should back off. At the moment, the font is a bit small, but other than that, I don't see the issue. As long as people are not being actively misled. That way, people can easily choose to use a different search engine if they don't like Google's practices with regard to sponsored links. Free market and all.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Marmitecashews 06/27/17 5:38:21 PM #35:	Anarchy_Juiblex posted... DarthWendy posted... UnfairRepresent posted... Stagmar posted... Paper_Okami posted... Marmitecashews posted... If Google were to follow competition rules, they wouldn't get fined. I wonder what you guys thought of the TPP . . . I'm guessing there's some hypocrisy and inconsistency afoot. Anti monopoly laws are nothing like the travesty that was TPP. (Depending on how they are designed) --- Breitbart has been caught lying so many times that you might as well call it Liebart. <cite>Marmitecashews posted [p:881918381] in EU scum fu... [t:75506552]...</cite> <quote><cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DarthWendy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Stagmar posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Paper_Okami posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Marmitecashews posted...</cite> <quote>If Google were to follow competition rules, they wouldn't get fined.</quote></quote></quote></quote></quote> I wonder what you guys thought of the TPP . . . I'm guessing there's some hypocrisy and inconsistency afoot.</quote> Anti monopoly laws are nothing like the travesty that was TPP. (Depending on how they are designed)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ilishe 06/27/17 5:53:21 PM #36:	Pffft. Google is our bitch. Everything is our bitch., apparently. --- ~Phoenix Nine~ ~Victory needs no explanation; defeat allows none.~ <cite>Ilishe posted [p:881919240] in EU scum fu... [t:75506552]...</cite> <quote>Pffft. Google is our bitch. Everything is our bitch., apparently.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
garan 06/27/17 6:14:43 PM #37:	UnfairRepresent posted... Stagmar posted... Paper_Okami posted... Marmitecashews posted... If Google were to follow competition rules, they wouldn't get fined. <cite>garan posted [p:881920566] in EU scum fu... [t:75506552]...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Stagmar posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Paper_Okami posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Marmitecashews posted...</cite> <quote>If Google were to follow competition rules, they wouldn't get fined.</quote></quote></quote></quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JE19426 06/27/17 6:22:26 PM #38:	s0nicfan posted... EDIT: Also, don't forget this part: Failure to comply risks fines of up to 5% of daily revenue So they're literally blackmailing Google with a significant chunk of the whole company's profits. Giving fines to peoples and companies who refuse to follow court orders isn't blackmail. <cite>JE19426 posted [p:881920978] in EU scum fu... [t:75506552]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>EDIT: Also, don't forget this part: Failure to comply risks fines of up to 5% of daily revenue So they're literally blackmailing Google with a significant chunk of the whole company's profits.</quote> Giving fines to peoples and companies who refuse to follow court orders isn't blackmail.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 06/27/17 6:23:53 PM #39:	JE19426 posted... s0nicfan posted... EDIT: Also, don't forget this part: Failure to comply risks fines of up to 5% of daily revenue So they're literally blackmailing Google with a significant chunk of the whole company's profits. Giving fines to peoples and companies who refuse to follow court orders isn't blackmail. Giving fines to people and companies tied to their company-wide bottom line based on one aspect of the company, however, is. There's a difference between a recurring fine and taking an actual percentage of their profit. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:881921078] in EU scum fu... [t:75506552]...</cite> <quote><cite>JE19426 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>EDIT: Also, don't forget this part: Failure to comply risks fines of up to 5% of daily revenue So they're literally blackmailing Google with a significant chunk of the whole company's profits.</quote> Giving fines to peoples and companies who refuse to follow court orders isn't blackmail.</quote> Giving fines to people and companies tied to their company-wide bottom line based on one aspect of the company, however, is. There's a difference between a recurring fine and taking an actual percentage of their profit.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JE19426 06/27/17 6:25:10 PM #40:	s0nicfan posted... Giving fines to people and companies tied to their company-wide bottom line based on one aspect of the company, however, is. How so? There's a difference between a recurring fine and taking an actual percentage of their profit. Which is? <cite>JE19426 posted [p:881921145] in EU scum fu... [t:75506552]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>Giving fines to people and companies tied to their company-wide bottom line based on one aspect of the company, however, is.</quote> How so? <quote>There's a difference between a recurring fine and taking an actual percentage of their profit.</quote> Which is?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 06/27/17 6:28:57 PM #41:	JE19426 posted... s0nicfan posted... Giving fines to people and companies tied to their company-wide bottom line based on one aspect of the company, however, is. How so? There's a difference between a recurring fine and taking an actual percentage of their profit. Which is? To both questions, the issue is what's considered fair. A speeding ticket, for example, is a fixed amount. It's not "5% of your yearly income" because that's not reasonable. Fines are just that: a fine. A number (or sometimes a range). They're set based on what is considered fair and reasonable (AKA not cruel or unusual). "The punishment fits the crime" and all that. A percent is an arbitrary number not tied to the severity of the crime. Under this punishment, Google would hypothetically end up paying a larger fee next year because their android branch did better than last year, even if their advertising branch (the one the EU is taking issue with) remained flat in profits. The punishment doesn't fit the crime. I mean... can you think of a single other instance in all of western law where legal punishment isn't a specific value (or a range, such as minimum to maximum sentences), but rather a PERCENT of something? --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:881921354] in EU scum fu... [t:75506552]...</cite> <quote><cite>JE19426 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>Giving fines to people and companies tied to their company-wide bottom line based on one aspect of the company, however, is.</quote> How so? <quote>There's a difference between a recurring fine and taking an actual percentage of their profit.</quote> Which is?</quote> To both questions, the issue is what's considered fair. A speeding ticket, for example, is a fixed amount. It's not "5% of your yearly income" because that's not reasonable. Fines are just that: a fine. A number (or sometimes a range). They're set based on what is considered fair and reasonable (AKA not cruel or unusual). "The punishment fits the crime" and all that. A percent is an arbitrary number not tied to the severity of the crime. Under this punishment, Google would hypothetically end up paying a larger fee next year because their android branch did better than last year, even if their advertising branch (the one the EU is taking issue with) remained flat in profits. The punishment doesn't fit the crime. I mean... can you think of a single other instance in all of western law where legal punishment isn't a specific value (or a range, such as minimum to maximum sentences), but rather a PERCENT of something?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JE19426 06/27/17 6:38:04 PM #42:	s0nicfan posted... They're set based on what is considered fair and reasonable (AKA not cruel or unusual). "The punishment fits the crime" and all that. A percent is an arbitrary number not tied to the severity of the crime. I disagree completely. Fines need to be enough to discourage people from commiting the crime, but a multiple billionaire is going to care far less about a giving amount of money than someone who earns just enough to live on. I mean... can you think of a single other instance in all of western law where legal punishment isn't a specific value (or a range, such as minimum to maximum sentences), but rather a PERCENT of something? Yes, lots. They are pretty common in Europe. Speeding fines in the UK are one example. <cite>JE19426 posted [p:881921832] in EU scum fu... [t:75506552]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>They're set based on what is considered fair and reasonable (AKA not cruel or unusual). "The punishment fits the crime" and all that. A percent is an arbitrary number not tied to the severity of the crime.</quote> I disagree completely. Fines need to be enough to discourage people from commiting the crime, but a multiple billionaire is going to care far less about a giving amount of money than someone who earns just enough to live on. <quote>I mean... can you think of a single other instance in all of western law where legal punishment isn't a specific value (or a range, such as minimum to maximum sentences), but rather a PERCENT of something?</quote> Yes, lots. They are pretty common in Europe. Speeding fines in the UK are one example.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Paragon21XX 06/27/17 6:38:47 PM #43:	Google needs to go the Euro news aggregation route they did when certain countries passed laws that allowed news sites to charge aggregators a licensing fee: completely strip out access to the service until sites negatively impacted by the delisting raise hell at the EU's doorstep because even if what Google does seems anti-competitive, they are still profiting due to Google, not in spite of. --- Hmm... <cite>Paragon21XX posted [p:881921870] in EU scum fu... [t:75506552]...</cite> <quote>Google needs to go the Euro news aggregation route they did when certain countries passed laws that allowed news sites to charge aggregators a licensing fee: completely strip out access to the service until sites negatively impacted by the delisting raise hell at the EU's doorstep because even if what Google does seems anti-competitive, they are still profiting due to Google, not in spite of.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 06/27/17 11:16:04 PM #44:	Paragon21XX posted... Google needs to go the Euro news aggregation route they did when certain countries passed laws that allowed news sites to charge aggregators a licensing fee: completely strip out access to the service until sites negatively impacted by the delisting raise hell at the EU's doorstep because even if what Google does seems anti-competitive, they are still profiting due to Google, not in spite of. For reference: http://fortune.com/2016/03/24/eu-ancillary-copyright/ <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:881937519] in EU scum fu... [t:75506552]...</cite> <quote><cite>Paragon21XX posted...</cite> <quote>Google needs to go the Euro news aggregation route they did when certain countries passed laws that allowed news sites to charge aggregators a licensing fee: completely strip out access to the service until sites negatively impacted by the delisting raise hell at the EU's doorstep because even if what Google does seems anti-competitive, they are still profiting due to Google, not in spite of.</quote> For reference: http://fortune.com/2016/03/24/eu-ancillary-copyright/</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RebelElite791 06/27/17 11:17:24 PM #45:	"Globalist commies" thinking emoji --- http://i.imgur.com/MS5SvzN.gif https://i.imgur.com/ahQpG57.jpg <cite>RebelElite791 posted [p:881937593] in EU scum fu... [t:75506552]...</cite> <quote>"Globalist commies" thinking emoji</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 06/28/17 9:53:23 AM #46:	JE19426 posted... I disagree completely. Fines need to be enough to discourage people from commiting the crime, but a multiple billionaire is going to care far less about a giving amount of money than someone who earns just enough to live on. And what is the crime, here? Google lists their own shopping services at the top of their own shopping tab? When I go into a grocery store, should I be enraged that they don't advertise sales at their competition? There are no shortage of alternatives if you don't want to use google for shopping, so what exactly IS the issue? The EU court doesn't even seem to know, since they gave them 90 says to stop, but didn't say what "stopping" looks like. This is a power grab through and through, with the EU trying to play global business police against companies that have blows up through innovation using made up rules the rest of the world doesn't follow. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:881955844] in EU scum fu... [t:75506552]...</cite> <quote><cite>JE19426 posted...</cite> <quote>I disagree completely. Fines need to be enough to discourage people from commiting the crime, but a multiple billionaire is going to care far less about a giving amount of money than someone who earns just enough to live on.</quote> And what is the crime, here? Google lists their own shopping services at the top of their own shopping tab? When I go into a grocery store, should I be enraged that they don't advertise sales at their competition? There are no shortage of alternatives if you don't want to use google for shopping, so what exactly IS the issue? The EU court doesn't even seem to know, since they gave them 90 says to stop, but didn't say what "stopping" looks like. This is a power grab through and through, with the EU trying to play global business police against companies that have blows up through innovation using made up rules the rest of the world doesn't follow.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LightHawKnight 06/28/17 9:58:07 AM #47:	So basically they told google to fix it within 60 days are we are going to fine you? Why doesn't google just say fuck off and leave? --- The Official Odin of the Shin Megami Tensei IV board. "You know how confusing the whole good-evil concept is for me." <cite>LightHawKnight posted [p:881956047] in EU scum fu... [t:75506552]...</cite> <quote>So basically they told google to fix it within 60 days are we are going to fine you? Why doesn't google just say fuck off and leave?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 06/28/17 10:00:18 AM #48:	s0nicfan posted... The EU court doesn't even seem to know, since they gave them 90 says to stop, but didn't say what "stopping" looks like. Just stop doing it, in the EU. Wait for complaints to come in when online shopping shifts pretty much entirely to local Amazon branches, and the price-comparison sites that started this shit get ignored anyway. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:881956136] in EU scum fu... [t:75506552]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>The EU court doesn't even seem to know, since they gave them 90 says to stop, but didn't say what "stopping" looks like.</quote> Just stop doing it, in the EU. Wait for complaints to come in when online shopping shifts pretty much entirely to local Amazon branches, and the price-comparison sites that started this shit get ignored anyway.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gmanthebest 06/28/17 10:24:03 AM #49:	So if I go to a supermarket in the EU, they have all their competition's prices on a board? No? Then fuck off Google's dick. --- What do I feel when I shoot an enemy? Recoil. <cite>gmanthebest posted [p:881957112] in EU scum fu... [t:75506552]...</cite> <quote>So if I go to a supermarket in the EU, they have all their competition's prices on a board? No? Then fuck off Google's dick.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
luigi13579 06/28/17 11:18:01 AM #50:	gmanthebest posted... So if I go to a supermarket in the EU, they have all their competition's prices on a board? No? Then fuck off Google's dick. It'd be more like going to somewhere that claims to compare prices and point you to the best deals, but favors products with companies they sponsor in return for a percentage of their profits. Now, if they're up front with you about this and tell you when they're pushing a sponsored product, then fair enough I think. However, if they don't tell you this and actively mislead you? In that case, I think the EU would be right intervene. With Google, it's kind of borderline. There's a tiny piece of text in the top right corner saying some products are sponsored. It's not clear to me exactly what products though. Maybe I'm missing something. If you want to stick with the supermarket comparison, I guess it'd be like a supermarket showing you prices from their competition (presumably making it seem like they're cheaper than them), but then misleading you a bit to push their own products. <cite>luigi13579 posted [p:881959569] in EU scum fu... [t:75506552]...</cite> <quote><cite>gmanthebest posted...</cite> <quote>So if I go to a supermarket in the EU, they have all their competition's prices on a board? No? Then fuck off Google's dick.</quote> It'd be more like going to somewhere that claims to compare prices and point you to the best deals, but favors products with companies they sponsor in return for a percentage of their profits. Now, if they're up front with you about this and tell you when they're pushing a sponsored product, then fair enough I think. However, if they don't tell you this and actively mislead you? In that case, I think the EU would be right intervene. With Google, it's kind of borderline. There's a tiny piece of text in the top right corner saying some products are sponsored. It's not clear to me exactly what products though. Maybe I'm missing something. If you want to stick with the supermarket comparison, I guess it'd be like a supermarket showing you prices from their competition (presumably making it seem like they're cheaper than them), but then misleading you a bit to push their own products.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JE19426 06/28/17 12:09:10 PM #51:	s0nicfan posted... And what is the crime, here? Violating antitrust law. The EU court doesn't even seem to know, since they gave them 90 says to stop, but didn't say what "stopping" looks like. It says "to give equal treatment to rival price-comparison services" that's fairly clear to me. <cite>JE19426 posted [p:881962255] in EU scum fu... [t:75506552]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>And what is the crime, here?</quote> Violating antitrust law. <quote>The EU court doesn't even seem to know, since they gave them 90 says to stop, but didn't say what "stopping" looks like.</quote> It says "to give equal treatment to rival price-comparison services" that's fairly clear to me.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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