Board 8 > ~FIGHT!~ Fox Zero Exdeath Blanc Mega Man vs. Arthas Vergil Kratos Kirby Sonic

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KanzarisKelshen
07/01/17 7:11:33 PM
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Fox McCloud, Zero, X-Death, Blanc and Mega Man have challenged The Lich King, Vergil, Kratos, Kirby and Sonic the Hedgehog to a fight! Location of the fight: The Frozen Throne - The frozen summit where the Lich King battle takes place in World of Warcraft. Access to the rest of Icecrown Citadel or the world (of Warcraft) is banned. Attackers start at Tirion Fordring's pre-fight location (though he is not present), and defenders start by the Lich King's throne.. Which side will win?

Guidelines

- The fight will occur in real-time (like an FMV sequence). Gameplay mechanics are less important than how the characters would function in a real-time environment.
- The members of each team are ideal teammates capable of a pre-selected plan of battle.
- "Broken" refers to a lot of things, including insta-death, auto-effects, a variety of status effects (e.g., Imp, Silence, Stop, *not* Poison), and revival. Unless stated otherwise, nobody has them, though do use your own discretion.
- There may be SPOILERS from all of the games the characters are from.

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- This match will end in 24 hours.
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Nintendo has won the console wars! All of Blanc's team, plus Kirby, will enjoy a 50% parameter buff for the whole match.

The Lich King has summoned Sindragosa to do his bidding. The entire enemy team will be hit by her icy breath attack and rooted to the ground for the first two seconds of battle.

Blanc is as she appears in Hyperdimension Neptunia Re;Birth1, at max level and with her best non-broken skills and equipment. She may activate her HDD form at any time, and whilst she cannot use Linked attacks, EX Finishers and EXE Drive skills can be used once the EXE Drive Gauge has been built up.

Fox McCloud is as he appears in the Star Fox series, piloting the fully upgraded Arwing in all-range mode as seen in Star Fox 64 in from the nearest convenient location to his team. He may leave the cockpit but will only have his Blaster from Star Fox: Assault if he does so. He has a bomb for this battle, which he is advised to use wisely.

Mega Man is as seen in Mega Man Series. He has access to his Mega Buster, his Magnet Beam, all of his weapons from the mainline Mega Man series (1-10) aside from the Time Stopper, Flash Stopper, Gravity Hold, Centaur Flash and Astro Crush and his moveset from Marvel vs Capcom 2, but may only use his hypers if he has enough meter and the necessary robots are present. He also has a variety of weapons based on his defeated foes, allowing him to use Soul Steal, as seen in Castlevania: Symphony of the Night.He has Bub-like durability X_X. Once per match if he dies, he will immediately reanimate to full health at his starting location

Zero is as he appears in the Mega Man Zero series, in his X Form as seen in Zero 2. He has his Saber, Buster, Shield Boomerang, and Chain Rod, as well as the EX skills from Mega Man Zero 2. He has the elemental chips and the only effects from Cyber Elves he has are those from Grandie, Atti, Jettah, and Fubuffa, (double life, running speed, climbing speed, no backlash recoil).
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KanzarisKelshen
07/01/17 7:12:16 PM
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Exdeath is as he appears in Final Fantasy V. He will fight in his standard armored form and cannot transform, but has all of his endgame power and attacks from all of his boss fights. Additionally, he has access to all of his Brave/HP attacks from Dissidia as well as flight, though the actual Brave/HP mechanics do not apply. He cannot use White Hole, Delta Attack, Zombie Breath or the FFV Version of Grand Cross, nor can he banish anyone to another plane or use the void itself as a weapon.

~VS~

Kirby is as seen in the Kirby Super Star and Smash series. He has full use of his Smash Brothers Moveset along with the moves from his Fire, Ninja and Ice forms. (He has also inhaled Fox's Arwing and Exdeath, gaining a set of moves fitting each). He cannot inhale enemy fighters nor create helpers from his abilities during the match, but can inhale anything else and will not lose access to his forms due to taking damage.He is piloting the fully upgraded Arwing in all-range mode as seen in Star Fox 64 from the nearest convenient location to his team. He has no bombs. He may leave the cockpit.

Super Sonic is as he appears in the Sonic series of video games. However, his transformation will only last 20 seconds after first encountering any enemy in battle, after which point he will revert to normal Sonic (as he appears in the Sonic series), and 50 rings will scatter throughout the terrain in distribution similar to what you'd expect in a Sonic level. He can repeatedly collect the 50 scattered rings to transform again for 20 seconds, though the collected rings will not protect him from damage nor scatter upon Sonic being hit.

Kratos is as he appears in God of War 3. The only Godly Possessions in effect are the Hercules' Shoulder Guard and the Poseidon's Conch Shell. He and his weapons are fully powered up, however he does not have the Blades of Athena, the Soul Rip ability, and he may not turn invincible at any point in the fight.

The Lich King is as seen in World of Warcraft (minus boss mechanics like threat and enrage) and Heroes of the Storm (as Arthas). He does not have access to his Harvest Soul, Fury of Frostmourne, or Raise Dead abilities.

Vergil is as he appears in Devil May Cry 4: Special Edition, with all of his weaponry, skills and techniques from his boss battles in DMC3 and playable form in DMC3 and 4, though he does not have his canon regen. He may access Devil Trigger for up to 10 seconds every 5 minutes.

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KanzarisKelshen
07/01/17 7:13:45 PM
#3:


@Johnbobb
@Tom Bombadil

The floor is yours.
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KanzarisKelshen
07/01/17 7:15:17 PM
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Tom's argument:

-1.5x buff is key here. From how Fox works, I'd expect that to buff his reaction speed and stuff in addition to the actual Arwing!
-Two seconds isn't long to be frozen to the ground!
-Blanc is a tanky type. She has area defense and special defense buffs, as well as a single target str/def buff.
http://neptunia.wikia.com/wiki/Blanc/Hyper_Dimension/Gameplay
http://neptunia.wikia.com/wiki/Command/SP/Re;Birth1/Blanc
-Blanc can (and probably will, based on story showings) turn into White Heart. It's a transformation that costs a chunk of her SP, but gives her big stat boosts, and I think some flight. Relatively quick transformation too, and lasts the whole fight.
-They've got good mercs, but how much anti-air do they have?
-my team is angry and ready to fight after richter screwed mm and I screwed pit
-Zero's X Form buffs his buster with no major drawbacks
-We've already established that Arwing > Kirbwing and I don't see a reason that would change here.
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KanzarisKelshen
07/01/17 7:15:43 PM
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Johnbobb's argument:

ok so right off the bat, I've got numbers advantage, power advantage and terrain advantage.
the enemy team is frozen to the ground. Not for long, mind you, but that does mean a few things.
1. Fox's Arwing starts with his team, rooted to the ground. He either slowly needs to take off when unfrozen or worry about colatteral damage
2. Vergil and Super Sonic, who both move at INSANE speed far beyond anyone else in this match, get first strikes on the entire enemy team
Speaking of Super Sonic, again, 20 seconds might not seem like long as Super, but not only is he incredible as Super Sonic, all he has to do is collect rings in an easy to navigate terrain to regain it. AKA the thing he does best. Nobody on the enemy team comes close to keeping up with him, so good luck stopping him from collecting rings.
Super Sonic has defeated everything from giant robots, massive alien space monsters, and fucking deities. He's impossibly fast and all but invincible in this state. He's able to blast through Perfect Dark Gaia (who's about the size of a mountain) with ease. He can fly, teleport, put up reflective barriers and shoot energy blasts, all at near light-speed.
Lich King, Vergil and Kratos most of you know by now. Vergil's got insane speed and durability, Lich King is probably has the most physical strength here next to Super Sonic, and Kratos has a huge variety of weapons, magic, and raw strength: enough so that he's killed titans and gods alike, single-handedly.
Kirb's piloting the Arwing, as he does, and he gets the extra bonus of being the ONLY Arwing in the sky when the match starts. Kirby and Super Sonic can essentially dominate the sky from the very start, and there's very little anyone can do about it.
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KanzarisKelshen
07/01/17 7:16:23 PM
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(If somebody could ping Tom, it'd be appreciated. For some reason my net is being terrible and the ping system isn't really working right with spaced names like his.)
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X_Dante_X
07/01/17 7:18:47 PM
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@Tom_Bombadil
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trdl23
07/01/17 7:24:01 PM
#8:


This is a match all right
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DeathChicken
07/01/17 7:31:01 PM
#9:


Does Mega Bub remain Mega Bub through both of his lives?
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trdl23
07/01/17 7:32:04 PM
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Yes. (My call anyway, though if Kanz disagrees I'm fighting him)
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KanzarisKelshen
07/01/17 8:31:49 PM
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No, I don't. Ability keeps him bublike. This is a shadowcaster clone of megaman.
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greengravy294
07/01/17 8:44:31 PM
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I would vote for GST but he isn't here lol
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greengravy294
07/01/17 8:45:05 PM
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Also agreed he is bub like for EVER
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Johnbobb
07/01/17 8:54:14 PM
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Personally I thought KOing mega Man was gonna cancel the clone anyway, but whatever, double Bubs
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Eddv
07/01/17 9:33:41 PM
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Fox with better react times
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KanzarisKelshen
07/01/17 9:37:11 PM
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This match is p stompy to me. Sonic + Vergil + Arthas smashes. Nobody can really check 'em here.
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Johnbobb
07/01/17 9:48:04 PM
#17:


Fox with better reflexes still has worse reflexes than Super Sonic
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Johnbobb
07/01/17 9:48:36 PM
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Not to mention Kirby has those same boosted reflexes
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greengravy294
07/01/17 10:10:26 PM
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abstain because I have no vote but both leaders are dolts LMAO @Johnbobb @Tom_Bombadil
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Johnbobb
07/01/17 10:13:58 PM
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wow
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MajinZidane
07/01/17 10:16:17 PM
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What is a dolt?
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Alany
07/01/17 10:48:06 PM
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Sonic wins
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greengravy294
07/01/17 10:49:08 PM
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@boko, baddies.
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Mewtwo59
07/02/17 1:11:00 AM
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Can someone post a video of the terrain? Mainly I want to know the size and how easy it is for Fox to take off from the ground.

So what kind of boosts does the Lich King get at the Frozen Throne? People hype him up to be some sort of monster here, but I can't recall the specifics.
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Johnbobb
07/02/17 1:34:16 AM
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Mewtwo59 posted...
So what kind of boosts does the Lich King get at the Frozen Throne? People hype him up to be some sort of monster here, but I can't recall the specifics.


@DoomTheGyarados
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KanzarisKelshen
07/02/17 2:01:43 AM
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Basically this place is full of Spoopy Undead Magic and Arthas benefits from it. To give you an idea, in Frozen Throne the Warcraft 3 expansion, Arthas is a deathknight, and while he starts the campaign a turbobadass, he gets progressively weaker throughout until he reaches the Frozen Throne, at which point his powers gradually return throughout a huge battle against Illidan's forces. I believe Lich King Arthas gets a much bigger boost than that?
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Wanglicious
07/02/17 3:31:57 AM
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...how much distance is in between those two areas and how difficult would it be to reach it.

because if it ain't fucking huge and complicated, then super sonic is super stomping. why is that even a thing. that is not a fair powerup to give ever.
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KanzarisKelshen
07/02/17 3:33:26 AM
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Wanglicious posted...
...how much distance is in between those two areas and how difficult would it be to reach it.

because if it ain't fucking huge and complicated, then super sonic is super stomping. why is that even a thing. that is not a fair powerup to give ever.


Like twenty yards or so, tops?

Also the answer is 'because lmao anybody respecting Sonic ever'. I respect him, Johnbobb respects him and absolutely no one else does. If you ask KJH, Super Sonic jobs to Ryu Hayabusa IIRC.
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trdl23
07/02/17 3:34:49 AM
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Lich King arena is not very big. Small enough such that a whole raid can move from its center to its edge in under 5 seconds, though that might be partially gameplay mechanics.
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KanzarisKelshen
07/02/17 3:37:03 AM
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trdl23 posted...
Lich King arena is not very big. Small enough such that a whole raid can move from its center to its edge in under 5 seconds, though that might be partially gameplay mechanics.


Nah, it shows up in WC3 FT IIRC and it's about that small there too.
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DoomTheGyarados
07/02/17 3:44:40 AM
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I think I am allowed to vote on this one based on the fact that Tom owns a merc I do.
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Wanglicious
07/02/17 3:46:23 AM
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that's a pretty impressive level of disrespect considering he easily runs through the team before they'd even know what hit 'em.
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StealThisSheen
07/02/17 3:49:29 AM
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Super Sonic Solos
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KanzarisKelshen
07/02/17 5:39:16 AM
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Wanglicious posted...
that's a pretty impressive level of disrespect considering he easily runs through the team before they'd even know what hit 'em.


I mean, let's put it into perspective - people thought 3/week gunners could hit base Sonic. Y'know, 'rolling around at the speed of sound' guy who is gunner kryptonite. You really have to be there to feel the Sonic disrespect Wang, it's unreal.
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Chaeix
07/02/17 5:49:39 AM
#35:


Team Lich King

the arwing can deal with frozen breath but it can't deal with super sonic and/or arthas using death grip on it

if it gets death gripped it is dead
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DoomTheGyarados
07/02/17 5:57:29 AM
#36:


Johnbobb posted...
Mewtwo59 posted...
So what kind of boosts does the Lich King get at the Frozen Throne? People hype him up to be some sort of monster here, but I can't recall the specifics.


@DoomTheGyarados
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Anyway not sure I can vote BUT AS REQUESTED.

The Frozen Throne is the heart of the Lich King's power, this area being where the helm of domination was incased for years. The Lich King could control a vast army of minions thousands of miles away, and the closer minions got to this area the stronger his control of them became. Basically think of this place as the nexus of all of his powers, where he is most in touch with every ability he has. Like it is easier to weaken him in holy ground, this is tainted ground.

Basically it isn't a stat % boost, but the lore is very clear that the Lich King is frightening on his throne compared to everywhere else, and this was displayed when he literally won his raid boss fight before The Light (tm) was like "no fuck you"
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Johnbobb
07/02/17 9:24:09 AM
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Pretty sure you're able to vote as long as you're not in our bracket

And yeah, the Sonic disrespect is horrifying.

Going in I legitimately thought to myself "How do I convince them that Super Sonic can destroy these nearby targets that can't move?" That's not a thought anyone should have, it should just be assumed
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Tom Bombadil
07/02/17 9:33:49 AM
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Well see I don't have Axel so
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trdl23
07/02/17 9:49:17 AM
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Vergil and Sanic

Not sure how good Arthas is against giant spaceships, but those two are pretty good.
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HeroicGammaRay
07/02/17 11:00:05 AM
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so is mega man at 1.5x bub durability, or does he get buffed to 1.5x durability and then reduced to bub
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Johnbobb
07/02/17 11:03:03 AM
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HeroicGammaRay posted...
so is mega man at 1.5x bub durability, or does he get buffed to 1.5x durability and then reduced to bub

I mean

does it really matter
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Mewtwo59
07/02/17 5:22:03 PM
#42:


Super Sonic

Yeah, if this place is small, Super Sonic is going to go ham. He's only got 20 seconds, but luckily he's got a strong team behind him who can finish the job after Super Sonic wears off.
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KamikazePotato
07/02/17 5:24:54 PM
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Super Sonic maybe solos even without Sindragosa or the rest of his team>
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woodman
07/02/17 6:05:08 PM
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super sanic
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HeroicGammaRay
07/02/17 7:08:05 PM
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exdeath
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woodman
07/02/17 7:10:17 PM
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oops i meant super sanic
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