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BalloonBattle05 07/03/17 1:21:58 PM #1: |
It's a simple solution to making people stop smoking.
Alongside delaying free health care for anyone who gets cigerattes or illegal drugs. --- I wonder if several users here like to type with big meaty claws. If not, they don't defend dumb choices like Pokemon Transporter or Nintendo charging for OLMP. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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voldothegr8 07/03/17 1:24:20 PM #2: |
I have another idea and it's a very simple concept.
Mind your own fucking business and stop caring what other people do. There, problem solved. --- Oda break tracker 2017- 5 (2) Super Mario Maker Profile: 1237-0000-0073-02FE ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kakkeron 07/03/17 1:26:02 PM #3: |
Because of the amount of money they get by taxing them.
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vbty3 07/03/17 1:26:09 PM #4: |
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Villain 07/03/17 1:26:20 PM #5: |
I say keep em legal but tax the fuck out of em even more.
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Villain 07/03/17 1:26:35 PM #6: |
Like $20 a pack
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PoopPotato 07/03/17 1:27:15 PM #7: |
It's a tax on poor people. I ways vote those down, even though I don't like cigarettes.
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BalloonBattle05 07/03/17 1:27:24 PM #8: |
voldothegr8 posted...
I have another idea and it's a very simple concept. Excatly. Mind my own business. Why should I have to pay for a smoker's health care? --- I wonder if several users here like to type with big meaty claws. If not, they don't defend dumb choices like Pokemon Transporter or Nintendo charging for OLMP. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FrenchCrunch 07/03/17 1:28:38 PM #9: |
tc makes this topic or some derivative of it every few weeks
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voldothegr8 07/03/17 1:29:03 PM #10: |
BalloonBattle05 posted...
voldothegr8 posted...I have another idea and it's a very simple concept. By that logic lets make sugar illegal too. --- Oda break tracker 2017- 5 (2) Super Mario Maker Profile: 1237-0000-0073-02FE ... Copied to Clipboard!
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xyphilia 07/03/17 1:29:54 PM #11: |
I'd sooner allow alcohol and drugs (the injecting kind) to be legal rather than face one more second of cig smoke constantly permeating every single room of this entire country. From workplaces to malls to restaurants barbershops to fucking airports. No where is safe.
At least in America and (some) parts of Europe, smoking has been made all but illegal in the venues I mention. Not so in Asia and Africa unfortunately. Smoking has actually been INCREASING, year on year. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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I Like Toast 07/03/17 1:30:11 PM #12: |
They are taxed heavily so they generate a lot of money.
BalloonBattle05 posted... voldothegr8 posted...I have another idea and it's a very simple concept. Why should you pay for a non smokers health care? --- If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pikachupwnage 07/03/17 1:30:58 PM #13: |
voldothegr8 posted...
I have another idea and it's a very simple concept. Because a lot of tax money is spent on health issues caused or worsened by smoking? Because it smells terrible? Because secondhand smoke is a thing? Because people sneaking out for smoke breaks all the time makes things harder for their coworkers? --- I'm Mary Poppins y'all. http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/665/328/d75.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybub89 07/03/17 1:33:12 PM #14: |
I agree. It is ridiculous that we allow Big Tobacco to sell intentionally addictive poison to the populace.
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xyphilia 07/03/17 1:35:02 PM #15: |
voldothegr8 posted...
BalloonBattle05 posted...voldothegr8 posted...I have another idea and it's a very simple concept. Obesity costs UK health care, but at the very fucking least you don't blow obesity in someone's face, smoke does. And by your strawman logic, we might as well decrease intake of red meat and not have people do dangerous things like I dunno, drive a motorized vehicle. The fact of the matter is, none of your strawman arguments will work when it comes to a habit like smoking, which harms everyone else (sometimes even more so than the actual smoker!) unlike all other bad vices, which harm the user and don't infect everyone within a square mile with that putrid smell and risk of cancer. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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voldothegr8 07/03/17 1:35:14 PM #16: |
hockeybub89 posted...
I agree. It is ridiculous that we allow Folgers to sell intentionally addictive poison to the populace. hockeybub89 posted... I agree. It is ridiculous that we allow Pepsi to sell intentionally addictive poison to the populace. hockeybub89 posted... I agree. It is ridiculous that we allow Kraft to sell intentionally addictive poison to the populace. --- Oda break tracker 2017- 5 (2) Super Mario Maker Profile: 1237-0000-0073-02FE ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FrenchCrunch 07/03/17 1:36:04 PM #17: |
i just dont understand why some people are so obsessed with inhibiting others' lives
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ItsVinceRusso 07/03/17 1:36:16 PM #19: |
you'd only create a black market and turn it into a criminal enterprise
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Medz2017 07/03/17 1:36:45 PM #20: |
Meth is illegal....
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voldothegr8 07/03/17 1:37:15 PM #21: |
xyphilia posted...
voldothegr8 posted...BalloonBattle05 posted...voldothegr8 posted...I have another idea and it's a very simple concept. -Calls out fallicies -Moves the goalpost when argument is shattered --- Oda break tracker 2017- 5 (2) Super Mario Maker Profile: 1237-0000-0073-02FE ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BalloonBattle05 07/03/17 1:37:30 PM #22: |
FrenchCrunch posted...
i just dont understand why some people are so obsessed with inhibiting others' lives The same way we care if someone bought food from mcdonalds and tossed the food in the trash bin --- I wonder if several users here like to type with big meaty claws. If not, they don't defend dumb choices like Pokemon Transporter or Nintendo charging for OLMP. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pikachupwnage 07/03/17 1:37:46 PM #23: |
voldothegr8 posted...
BalloonBattle05 posted...voldothegr8 posted...I have another idea and it's a very simple concept. Tobacco is inherently harmful and can hurt others around you. Sugar is fine in moderation. --- I'm Mary Poppins y'all. http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/665/328/d75.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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therin_lews_kin 07/03/17 1:38:03 PM #24: |
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Medz2017 07/03/17 1:38:50 PM #26: |
pikachupwnage posted...
voldothegr8 posted...BalloonBattle05 posted...voldothegr8 posted...I have another idea and it's a very simple concept. Some people can die from peanuts --- Hi ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pikachupwnage 07/03/17 1:42:15 PM #28: |
Medz2017 posted...
pikachupwnage posted...voldothegr8 posted...BalloonBattle05 posted...voldothegr8 posted...I have another idea and it's a very simple concept. That's an allergy and not even 1% of people in the US have it. And out of that less than 1% very very few are risk of dying from minor to moderate exposure to peanuts. --- I'm Mary Poppins y'all. http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/665/328/d75.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnholyMudcrab 07/03/17 1:42:38 PM #29: |
Cigerattes
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Shame_Car_2 07/03/17 1:46:53 PM #30: |
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Cigerattes how did it take this many posts lol --- "You try carrying that many Splatfaqs users and see how you feel by Friday." ___shan http://imgur.com/Gk3fQDY ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybub89 07/03/17 1:47:58 PM #31: |
voldothegr8 posted...
hockeybub89 posted...I agree. It is ridiculous that we allow Folgers to sell intentionally addictive poison to the populace. Why are you replacing my quote with nonsense? You might as well have included another one with Nintendo. Sugar, caffeine, cheese, whatever are not like cigarettes or harder addictive drugs. Millions, billions of people can consume the former without becoming addicted because there is nothing physically addictive about them. Cigarettes, like some of their harder cousins, start creating physical dependence from day 1. Big Tobacco is essentially a legal crack dealer, hooking a bunch of people on their poison and abusing that harmful dependence for monetary gain. I'm not arguing that only cigarettes can be consumed to one's detriment. I'm arguing that comparing drug abuse and addiction to eating food is disingenuous. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FrenchCrunch 07/03/17 1:49:07 PM #32: |
BalloonBattle05 posted...
FrenchCrunch posted...i just dont understand why some people are so obsessed with inhibiting others' lives youre gonna have to walk me through this one ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybub89 07/03/17 1:51:26 PM #34: |
voldothegr8 posted...
hockeybub89 posted...voldothegr8 posted...hockeybub89 posted...I agree. It is ridiculous that we allow Folgers to sell intentionally addictive poison to the populace. No it is not. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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weapon_d00d816 07/03/17 1:51:37 PM #35: |
Too many people addicted, tobacco companies making too much, government getting too much tax revenue.
Only thing I would do is increase the age to 21, that way there aren't any kids in high school legally able to buy cigarettes, and kids don't get hooked on something that stays with them for decades. --- SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SlG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SlG ... Copied to Clipboard!
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voldothegr8 07/03/17 1:52:40 PM #37: |
hockeybub89 posted...
voldothegr8 posted...hockeybub89 posted...I agree. It is ridiculous that we allow Folgers to sell intentionally addictive poison to the populace. Caffeine isn't horribly addicting? And from the logic of "I don't want to pay for others self induced ailments" it certainly is a valid point that sugar puts just as many if not more people in the hospital every year. --- Oda break tracker 2017- 5 (2) Super Mario Maker Profile: 1237-0000-0073-02FE ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybub89 07/03/17 1:56:49 PM #38: |
shockthemonkey posted...
You're wrong If that was the case, then it would behave like cigarettes or meth where you are fucking yourself up from day 1 as the drugs completely modify your brain chemistry to ensure your physical dependence. Soda addiction is more like video game addiction than drug addiction. Just because millions of people eat sugary shit every day doesn't mean most of them are addicted to it. Unless you are going to argue that anything done regularly or any bad thing not stopped out of laziness indicates significant physical dependence. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybub89 07/03/17 1:58:12 PM #40: |
voldothegr8 posted...
hockeybub89 posted...voldothegr8 posted...hockeybub89 posted...I agree. It is ridiculous that we allow Folgers to sell intentionally addictive poison to the populace. I wasn't the person making that healthcare argument. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Villain 07/03/17 1:59:27 PM #41: |
Really though me eating a brick of cheese, drinking a 128oz soda etc in a closed window car won't affect the passengers.
The cigarette smoke might. --- http://i.imgur.com/ZWNgMXL.jpg Formally known as Will VIIII Game Discounts + Deals: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/1205-discounts-and-deals ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FrenchCrunch 07/03/17 2:00:39 PM #42: |
Villain posted...
Really though me eating a brick of cheese, drinking a 128oz soda etc in a closed window car won't affect the passengers. so...don't smoke with people in the car? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Villain 07/03/17 2:01:30 PM #43: |
FrenchCrunch posted...
Villain posted...Really though me eating a brick of cheese, drinking a 128oz soda etc in a closed window car won't affect the passengers. its not illegal --- http://i.imgur.com/ZWNgMXL.jpg Formally known as Will VIIII Game Discounts + Deals: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/1205-discounts-and-deals ... Copied to Clipboard!
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therin_lews_kin 07/03/17 2:01:45 PM #44: |
Villain posted...
Really though me eating a brick of cheese, drinking a 128oz soda etc in a closed window car won't affect the passengers. what if it's smoked cheese? --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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tennisdude818 07/03/17 2:02:43 PM #45: |
This brings up one of the many problems with socializing health care. Your personal habits become everybody's business.
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hockeybub89 07/03/17 2:04:52 PM #46: |
shockthemonkey posted...
hockeybub89 posted...shockthemonkey posted...You're wrong It is not highly physically addictive. Dependence on it does not cause the type of issues drug addiction causes and doctors do not treat it like them. It is insulting to the suffering of drug addicts to put getting a headache after not having your morning coffee for a few days on the same level. And again, moderate coffee and soda consumption with no health issues is a thing. Cigarettes are damaging you from drag 1. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Villain 07/03/17 2:05:23 PM #47: |
therin_lews_kin posted...
Villain posted...Really though me eating a brick of cheese, drinking a 128oz soda etc in a closed window car won't affect the passengers. I think you have bigger concerns if the driver is preparing smoked cheese in the car. --- http://i.imgur.com/ZWNgMXL.jpg Formally known as Will VIIII Game Discounts + Deals: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/1205-discounts-and-deals ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KStateKing17 07/03/17 2:06:59 PM #48: |
weapon_d00d816 posted...
Too many people addicted, tobacco companies making too much, government getting too much tax revenue. They have --- Mains: Xiaoyu/Zafina (Tekken)-Dhalsim (SF)-Jax (MK) Luong/Yamazaki/Joe (KoF) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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whitelytning 07/03/17 2:08:03 PM #49: |
shockthemonkey posted...
This isn't an argument. Look it up. You're wrong. Caffeine is highly physically addictive. People go through withdrawal. From someone that doesn't care one way or another about this shit thread, you can't really argue against this. Caffeine is very addictive. Studies have also shown that sugar is addictive as well. It changes people brains so that we become dependent on it and require more and more of it to satisfy the craving. Sugar is addictive and bad for you in moderate to high amounts. --- ************************************************ http://i.imgur.com/iZdWIKJ.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Annihilated 07/03/17 2:08:32 PM #50: |
hockeybub89 posted...
I agree. It is ridiculous that we allow Big Tobacco to sell intentionally addictive poison to the populace. In spite of this, some people still swear that legalizing hard drugs is the solution to the war on drugs. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FrenchCrunch 07/03/17 2:09:00 PM #51: |
Villain posted...
FrenchCrunch posted...Villain posted...Really though me eating a brick of cheese, drinking a 128oz soda etc in a closed window car won't affect the passengers. so? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybub89 07/03/17 2:11:13 PM #52: |
Annihilated posted...
hockeybub89 posted...I agree. It is ridiculous that we allow Big Tobacco to sell intentionally addictive poison to the populace. Decriminalizing use is the solution, not legally selling crack. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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