Poll of the Day > When I first heard that Mega Man Legacy Collection 2 was coming..

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keyblader1985
07/07/17 10:43:41 AM
#1:


I initially got excited. Then I tempered my expectations, thinking, "wait a minute; this is Capcom here. Watch them do something stupid like not release it for Nintendo systems."

I hate being right.
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mastermix3000
07/07/17 10:46:41 AM
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lol yep
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KevinceKostner
07/07/17 10:48:56 AM
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Besides having 9 and 10 the ps2/GameCube collection is still better than both, wheee
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Judgmenl
07/07/17 10:50:32 AM
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What Crapcom really needs to do is to release a Rockman EXE collection with online multiplayer and none of the cut content.

I'd buy it even if it were a Switch exclusive
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DDirtyDastard
07/07/17 10:54:34 AM
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KevinceKostner posted...
Besides having 9 and 10 the ps2/GameCube collection is still better than both, wheee

Seriously. Would it kill them to put all 10 in one collection?
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mastermix3000
07/07/17 10:59:53 AM
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Judgmenl posted...
What Crapcom really needs to do is to release a Rockman EXE collection with online multiplayer and none of the cut content.


You do realize (As was posted in OP) Capcom and logic just don't go hand in hand anymore?! They're in "financial difficulty" but they have so many fucking iconic names to their brand I don't understand how they aren't seeing WHY they are failing. At least Monster Hunter is doing well from what I'm hearing
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TLR_
07/07/17 11:00:38 AM
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Also, where the hell is Megaman & Bass (aka the BEST Megaman game before the X series).
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Judgmenl
07/07/17 11:04:30 AM
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mastermix3000 posted...
Judgmenl posted...
What Crapcom really needs to do is to release a Rockman EXE collection with online multiplayer and none of the cut content.


You do realize (As was posted in OP) Capcom and logic just don't go hand in hand anymore?! They're in "financial difficulty" but they have so many fucking iconic names to their brand I don't understand how they aren't seeing WHY they are failing. At least Monster Hunter is doing well from what I'm hearing


Well [hopefully] Monster Hunter World will be a success on PC. As long as they don't fuck it up (Well this is Capcom we're talking about...).
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mastermix3000
07/07/17 11:05:50 AM
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TLR_ posted...
Also, where the hell is Megaman & Bass (aka the BEST Megaman game before the X series).


yea I was very surprised that game didn't make the cut. I think it's time the company goes through internal changes, it is in dire need of them. It's a slowly sinking ship but there is literally no reason for it to be in that position
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helly
07/07/17 12:53:29 PM
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mastermix3000 posted...
Judgmenl posted...
What Crapcom really needs to do is to release a Rockman EXE collection with online multiplayer and none of the cut content.


You do realize (As was posted in OP) Capcom and logic just don't go hand in hand anymore?! They're in "financial difficulty" but they have so many fucking iconic names to their brand I don't understand how they aren't seeing WHY they are failing. At least Monster Hunter is doing well from what I'm hearing

because they keep doing that shit where they release a game then decide they want to add dlc do instead of just releasing the dlc, you have to rebuy the entire game.

and then they do it again.

you could get away with that when dlc wasn't really a thing you could download, and they did get away with it. look at all the street fighter 2s, but now they can't, and they aren't realizing it.
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Gamechamp3k
07/07/17 1:40:29 PM
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I worried about whether or not they'll include the Rockman versions of each game, like with Collection 1. It's kind of REALLY important for 8, since, I mean, you know what I mean. And they'd essentially have to include every game in the collection twice, which was pretty simple when they were all NES ROMs, but now we're got modern day releases in here.
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Gamechamp3k
07/07/17 1:44:04 PM
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helly posted...
mastermix3000 posted...
Judgmenl posted...
What Crapcom really needs to do is to release a Rockman EXE collection with online multiplayer and none of the cut content.


You do realize (As was posted in OP) Capcom and logic just don't go hand in hand anymore?! They're in "financial difficulty" but they have so many fucking iconic names to their brand I don't understand how they aren't seeing WHY they are failing. At least Monster Hunter is doing well from what I'm hearing

because they keep doing that shit where they release a game then decide they want to add dlc do instead of just releasing the dlc, you have to rebuy the entire game.

and then they do it again.

you could get away with that when dlc wasn't really a thing you could download, and they did get away with it. look at all the street fighter 2s, but now they can't, and they aren't realizing it.

They literally even released a new definitive edition of Street Fighter II this year. I feel bad for all the chumps 25 years ago who didn't wait for the version with all the DLC.
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DorkLink
07/07/17 1:46:04 PM
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Yeah, I remember hearing about this before and was disappointed. Having portable 9 and 10 would be awesome. I don't really care about 7 or 8, but it would be good to finally try to play through them.

Gamechamp3k posted...
I worried about whether or not they'll include the Rockman versions of each game, like with Collection 1. It's kind of REALLY important for 8, since, I mean, you know what I mean. And they'd essentially have to include every game in the collection twice, which was pretty simple when they were all NES ROMs, but now we're got modern day releases in here.


Rockman versions? Is that a codename for some special version or are you just referring to the JP versions? I assume what you're implying about 8 is the awful English voice acting, but are you really so big of a weeb that the JP versions of the NES games and 9/10 are a big deal to you?
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OreonX1
07/07/17 1:46:19 PM
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I got mega man collection on my ps4 for real cheap like $7...

I suck. End of story. Seriously the game is hard. The struggle is real yo.
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Judgmenl
07/07/17 1:53:07 PM
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DorkLink posted...
Rockman versions? Is that a codename for some special version or are you just referring to the JP versions? I assume what you're implying about 8 is the awful English voice acting, but are you really so big of a weeb that the JP versions of the NES games and 9/10 are a big deal to you?


There are a lot of changes in some of the localisations of some of these games. It is not something that a normal person would pick up but there's outright content missing from MMBN5 and 6 for example.

Also I call the series Rockman because I was apart of a community that called it that for several years.
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DorkLink
07/07/17 1:53:33 PM
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OreonX1 posted...
I suck. End of story. Seriously the game is hard. The struggle is real yo.


Which one? There are six games in it. Have you never beaten any of them before?

I remember 5 being the easiest, maybe you should start with that. Actually, 2 on "Normal" difficulty is easiest, but I'm not sure if this is one of those collections that removes it.
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Gamechamp3k
07/07/17 1:54:33 PM
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DorkLink posted...
Rockman versions? Is that a codename for some special version or are you just referring to the JP versions?

The Japanese versions.

DorkLink posted...
I assume what you're implying about 8 is the awful English voice acting, but are you really so big of a weeb that the JP versions of the NES games and 9/10 are a big deal to you?

Absolutely. Those four letters (and the extra space) are the biggest possible deal in the universe.
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DorkLink
07/07/17 1:55:01 PM
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Judgmenl posted...
It is not something that a normal person would pick up but there's outright content missing from MMBN5 and 6 for example.

Also I call the series Rockman because I was apart of a community that called it that for several years.


Battle Network 5 and 6? Or did you put BN in there by accident? Because the BN games aren't relevant to the collection I was talking about. And I was talking to Gamechamp... you know, the guy I quoted and responded to directly.
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DorkLink
07/07/17 2:02:09 PM
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Gamechamp3k posted...
Absolutely. Those four letters (and the extra space) are the biggest possible deal in the universe.


You're not Japanese, though. The games are meant to be known as Mega Man to you. What is the point of caring whether it's called Rockman other than to pat yourself on the back about how much you're into Japan? Your weeb levels are insufferable.


I think Mega Man sounds cooler anyway (though it doesn't make as much sense in the context of other characters like Roll)
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ernieforss
07/07/17 2:04:09 PM
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why release it on nintendo? when nintendo will have vc and charge you more. More money can go back to nintendo instead of capcom.
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DorkLink
07/07/17 2:09:31 PM
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Mega Man 7 is the only one of those games that is a candidate for VC though
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Gamechamp3k
07/07/17 2:14:33 PM
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DorkLink posted...
Judgmenl posted...
It is not something that a normal person would pick up but there's outright content missing from MMBN5 and 6 for example.

Also I call the series Rockman because I was apart of a community that called it that for several years.


Battle Network 5 and 6? Or did you put BN in there by accident? Because the BN games aren't relevant to the collection I was talking about. And I was talking to Gamechamp... you know, the guy I quoted and responded to directly.

They meant Battle Network, yeah. Though I would argue that even if the games aren't IN the collection, they're still relevant to the player's choice over which versions of the games in the collection to play. If a player wants to play the definitively best version of a game, sometimes they can choose either the English or Japanese version, and sometimes they'd NEED to play the Japanese version, but there is almost no instance where they need to play the English version (the only instance I know of where the English release had more content was Mega Man 2's additional Normal difficulty. Which, I mean, Baby Easy Mode isn't exactly what I look for in added content). And if a person wants a consistent experience throughout the entire franchise, they need to play every game in a single language, otherwise characters will be constantly changing names every which way when switching between regional releases. So if you're going to be playing the best release of the franchise as a whole, you'd have to go with Japanese over English.

Regardless, my choice isn't even one of quality, so the Battle Network thing doesn't weigh into my decision that heavily. It's more that the localization strategy they used for almost the entire franchise doesn't sit right with me. They changed the main character's name, a name which was already in English and made exactly as much sense without the original Japanese context, because one guy thought it sounded dumb. That is not how localization should be done, and the entire franchise has been marred by that decision from day 1, and they made tons more questionable changes along the way (Blue > Protoman, Forte > Bass, Rock > Megaman. Like as in Legends. Why not Mega? Mega would work as a kids name. He's literally a kid running around wearing a hunk of junk suit, we're supposed to believe his adoptive father named him "Megaman" when he was a baby. Like there's a reason he was called Rock and not Rockman, did the localization team not catch that or how does that even happen?)
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green dragon
07/07/17 2:15:35 PM
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Damn chewy, stop being a dick
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Gamechamp3k
07/07/17 2:16:55 PM
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DorkLink posted...
You're not Japanese, though. The games are meant to be known as Mega Man to you. What is the point of caring whether it's called Rockman other than to pat yourself on the back about how much you're into Japan? Your weeb levels are insufferable.

That isn't the reason.
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DorkLink
07/07/17 2:19:19 PM
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You say that, but if the game was developed by Germans or something, and everything else was the same (including the current English names and the current Japanese names now being the German names), I have a hard time believing you'd care just as much.
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Gamechamp3k
07/07/17 2:20:44 PM
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DorkLink posted...
You say that, but if the game was developed by Germans or something, and everything else was the same (including the current English names and the current Japanese names now being the German names), I have a hard time believing you'd care just as much.

I played Remember Me in French. :o
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helly
07/07/17 2:43:48 PM
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Gamechamp3k posted...
DorkLink posted...
You're not Japanese, though. The games are meant to be known as Mega Man to you. What is the point of caring whether it's called Rockman other than to pat yourself on the back about how much you're into Japan? Your weeb levels are insufferable.

That isn't the reason.

that is precicesly the reason though.
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DorkLink
07/07/17 2:49:27 PM
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I just hope that the inclusion or exclusion of JP versions isn't what makes or breaks your decision to buy the collection. Like jeez, how dare Capcom not cater to some small minority of picky, obsessed gamers in a release version intended for mainstream Western audiences.
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helly
07/07/17 5:39:21 PM
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iirc he refused to play the new Zelda because it did not have the Japanese vo

he's just an extreme weeb
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Gamechamp3k
07/07/17 5:49:27 PM
#30:


DorkLink posted...
I just hope that the inclusion or exclusion of JP versions isn't what makes or breaks your decision to buy the collection. Like jeez, how dare Capcom not cater to some small minority of picky, obsessed gamers in a release version intended for mainstream Western audiences.

If Capcom doesn't release the product I want, I'm not going to buy the product. I'm not saying the Mega Man versions shouldn't be released as products, I'm just saying they're not the products I want. The default state is to NOT buy things, buying is a decision made after they prove their worth to the individual consumer.
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Gamechamp3k
07/07/17 5:50:04 PM
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helly posted...
Gamechamp3k posted...
DorkLink posted...
You're not Japanese, though. The games are meant to be known as Mega Man to you. What is the point of caring whether it's called Rockman other than to pat yourself on the back about how much you're into Japan? Your weeb levels are insufferable.

That isn't the reason.

that is precicesly the reason though.

Shit you saw through me, I've been lying about my personal thoughts and feelings all along
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helly
07/07/17 6:02:15 PM
#32:


Gamechamp3k posted...
DorkLink posted...
I just hope that the inclusion or exclusion of JP versions isn't what makes or breaks your decision to buy the collection. Like jeez, how dare Capcom not cater to some small minority of picky, obsessed gamers in a release version intended for mainstream Western audiences.

If Capcom doesn't release the product I want, I'm not going to buy the product. I'm not saying the Mega Man versions shouldn't be released as products, I'm just saying they're not the products I want. The default state is to NOT buy things, buying is a decision made after they prove their worth to the individual consumer.

"i want this product, but because it's not in japanese i do not want it"
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DorkLink
07/07/17 6:06:06 PM
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helly posted...
iirc he refused to play the new Zelda because it did not have the Japanese vo

he's just an extreme weeb


I don't think he outright refused, but to be fair, in Zelda games the story matters much more than Mega Man and the English voice acting is pretty subpar. IIRC he wanted Japanese voices and English subtitles, which is fair... I'd almost consider playing it that way, even. But then again, it's not like the English voices are grating or physically painful to listen to, and it's not like it makes the game better to pretend they don't exist.

On the other hand, he's being extremely petty over Mega Man. They have fucking ridiculous stories about robots named shit like Clown Man.
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Gamechamp3k
07/07/17 7:00:40 PM
#34:


helly posted...
Gamechamp3k posted...
DorkLink posted...
I just hope that the inclusion or exclusion of JP versions isn't what makes or breaks your decision to buy the collection. Like jeez, how dare Capcom not cater to some small minority of picky, obsessed gamers in a release version intended for mainstream Western audiences.

If Capcom doesn't release the product I want, I'm not going to buy the product. I'm not saying the Mega Man versions shouldn't be released as products, I'm just saying they're not the products I want. The default state is to NOT buy things, buying is a decision made after they prove their worth to the individual consumer.

"i want this product, but because it's not in japanese i do not want it"

You keep bringing up this "Japanese" thing. I don't think I'm the person you think I am. Japanese developers tend to speak Japanese. Therefore I play Japanese games in Japanese. That's all there is to it.

DorkLink posted...
helly posted...
iirc he refused to play the new Zelda because it did not have the Japanese vo

he's just an extreme weeb


I don't think he outright refused, but to be fair, in Zelda games the story matters much more than Mega Man and the English voice acting is pretty subpar. IIRC he wanted Japanese voices and English subtitles, which is fair... I'd almost consider playing it that way, even. But then again, it's not like the English voices are grating or physically painful to listen to, and it's not like it makes the game better to pretend they don't exist.

On the other hand, he's being extremely petty over Mega Man. They have fucking ridiculous stories about robots named shit like Clown Man.

I don't see quality as a significant factor. Preferring to play with the Japanese dub doesn't inherently mean I like the Japanese dub more.

And Clown Man is a respected member of the Robot Master family how dare you
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DorkLink
07/07/17 7:15:41 PM
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Gamechamp3k posted...
Japanese developers tend to speak Japanese. Therefore I play Japanese games in Japanese.


Japanese companies spend a lot of money on having entire divisions in the West so that Western gamers don't have to do this. Your logic makes no sense, dude. Yeah, sometimes things unfortunately get messed up or changed in translation, but that's just how it goes. These companies bother to make games available and accessible to Western audiences, and you just shit on their effort to do something for your benefit, because you have some odd obsession over a few character names being changed. If Japanese companies had never bothered with localization in the first place, you probably wouldn't even know anything about these games you're complaining about that you can't play in Japanese.
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07/07/17 7:17:06 PM
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No 3DS, no buy.
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TheCyborgNinja
07/07/17 7:27:29 PM
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7 and 8 should've been in the last one, and then nothing.
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Gamechamp3k
07/07/17 7:36:26 PM
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DorkLink posted...
Gamechamp3k posted...
Japanese developers tend to speak Japanese. Therefore I play Japanese games in Japanese.


Japanese companies spend a lot of money on having entire divisions in the West so that Western gamers don't have to do this. Your logic makes no sense, dude. Yeah, sometimes things unfortunately get messed up or changed in translation, but that's just how it goes. These companies bother to make games available and accessible to Western audiences, and you just shit on their effort to do something for your benefit, because you have some odd obsession over a few character names being changed. If Japanese companies had never bothered with localization in the first place, you probably wouldn't even know anything about these games you're complaining about that you can't play in Japanese.

It isn't my responsibility to buy games, nor is choosing not to buy a game an inherent insult against the person who wants to sell it. If I want a Mcdonalds burger with jalapenos and Mcdonalds doesn't sell burgers with jalapenos, then I don't buy a Mcdonalds burger. I don't hate that they have the gall to sell burgers without jalapenos. I appreciate that they worked hard to make burgers available in my area. I don't look down on people who want a burger with japanenos and choose to settle for the burger without. I don't look down on people who don't like jalapenos in the first place. But I'm still not going to buy the burger. Because I'm exclusively in the market for burgers with jalapenos, and they are not offering that product.
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DorkLink
07/07/17 7:48:42 PM
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It would be more like if McDonald's always had burgers with jalapenos on them in Mexico, and they decided to try that out in America a few times, and you liked it, but then when they got rid of the jalapenos you stopped buying McDonalds even though they were the same burgers you once liked before they ever introduced jalapenos to you
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helly
07/07/17 7:52:48 PM
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Gamechamp3k posted...
You keep bringing up this "Japanese" thing. I don't think I'm the person you think I am. Japanese developers tend to speak Japanese. Therefore I play Japanese games in Japanese. That's all there is to it.

you are exactly the person i think you are.

"this product was made in japan, then localized for western audiences so people who don't speak japanese can play and enjoy it.

however, because i'm fucking weird, i will only play it in japanese because the people who made it are japanese."

that's

that's.
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Gamechamp3k
07/07/17 8:02:27 PM
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DorkLink posted...
It would be more like if McDonald's always had burgers with jalapenos on them in Mexico, and they decided to try that out in America a few times, and you liked it, but then when they got rid of the jalapenos you stopped buying McDonalds even though they were the same burgers you once liked before they ever introduced jalapenos to you

Yes, that sounds like a fairly accurate analogy. After trying burgers with jalapenos, I came to realize I don't want burgers without jalapenos any more. My tastes changed.

helly posted...
Gamechamp3k posted...
You keep bringing up this "Japanese" thing. I don't think I'm the person you think I am. Japanese developers tend to speak Japanese. Therefore I play Japanese games in Japanese. That's all there is to it.

you are exactly the person i think you are.

"this product was made in japan, then localized for western audiences so people who don't speak japanese can play and enjoy it.

however, because i'm fucking weird, i will only play it in japanese because the people who made it are japanese."

that's

that's.

I don't think this conversation can go anywhere if you legitimately believe my thought process is "I'm fucking weird."
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Super Cecil12
07/07/17 8:46:11 PM
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Bring back Mega Man Legends 3! Or at least a Legends Collection. Maybe even re release Mega Man X collection on ps4/XB1?
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