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Clad
07/07/17 10:46:32 AM
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https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/06/technology/nuclear-plant-hack-report.html

This type of hacking is expensive, so it's probably a government-backed attack.
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Blo
07/07/17 10:48:02 AM
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I'm glad that we have intelligent, knowledgeable people in charge at this particular moment, and I trust them to handle this situation with aplomb.
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Doe
07/07/17 10:48:03 AM
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I don't understand

How do you "hack" a nuclear plant
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Canuklehead
07/07/17 10:49:05 AM
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NuclearPlant.StartMeltdown();
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COVxy
07/07/17 10:49:28 AM
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Our botched attack on Iran really set the stage for this, iirc.
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KiwiTerraRizing
07/07/17 10:50:04 AM
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Doe posted...
I don't understand

How do you "hack" a nuclear plant


Downloading the energy to power their hacking computers.
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iosifsvoboda
07/07/17 10:51:41 AM
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Iirc American utility has terrible cyber security
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Were_Wyrm
07/07/17 10:52:21 AM
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Enter command > /hack
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Antifar
07/07/17 10:52:50 AM
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This seems not good, imo.
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DarkDragon400
07/07/17 10:56:10 AM
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Doe posted...
I don't understand

How do you "hack" a nuclear plant

You gain access to computers on the plant's network. In this case they did that using malicious word documents and attacking sites that people on the network were known to visit.
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Clad
07/07/17 11:13:37 AM
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Blo posted...
I'm glad that we have intelligent, knowledgeable people in charge at this particular moment, and I trust them to handle this situation with aplomb.


Trump signed an executive order to bolster our national cyber security.
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Clad
07/07/17 11:14:40 AM
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Antifar posted...
This seems not good, imo.


No shit, Sherlock.
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Returning_CEmen
07/07/17 11:16:46 AM
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Good thing we put out that US Navy commercial to scare Villians without a face from hacking us.
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sylverlolol
07/07/17 11:18:36 AM
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they are going to use the plants to download ever MORE ram

my god
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Johnny_Nutcase
07/07/17 11:19:15 AM
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Mr. Burns will stay on top of this and release the hounds if necessary.
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Giant_Aspirin
07/07/17 11:20:34 AM
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Clad posted...
Blo posted...
I'm glad that we have intelligent, knowledgeable people in charge at this particular moment, and I trust them to handle this situation with aplomb.


Trump signed an executive order to bolster our national cyber security.


maybe he wishes the entire White House Science department wasn't vacated about now
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DevsBro
07/07/17 11:23:53 AM
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I would be simultaneously shocked and not at all surprised if Nuclear plants could be operated remotely.

NuclearPlant.StartMeltdown();

Lmao
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Twinmold
07/07/17 11:34:21 AM
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The scary thing about this, is that as shown with the Stuxnet attack on Iran, you wouldn't even know something is wrong. The whole plant could be priming to blow, and all the digitally controlled instruments would read back "all clear."
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DevsBro
07/07/17 11:40:13 AM
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The scary thing about this, is that as shown with the Stuxnet attack on Iran, you wouldn't even know something is wrong. The whole plant could be priming to blow, and all the digitally controlled instruments would read back "all clear."

Also Stuxnet proved that even if you have no nwtwork connection whatsoever, they can still get you. A pretty significant portion of flash drives in the world were thought to be infected, though of course it does nothing whatsoever to all but the target machine... they think.
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SoraOwnsOctopus
07/07/17 11:48:45 AM
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How? Wouldn't Power Plants be a closed network? >_>
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ThePrinceFish
07/07/17 11:57:31 AM
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Dr. Jill Stein has retreated into her bunker.
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Trigg3rH4ppy
07/07/17 11:58:08 AM
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We should build more walls around the plants
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Trigg3rH4ppy
07/07/17 12:00:08 PM
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SoraOwnsOctopus posted...
How? Wouldn't Power Plants be a closed network? >_>

A lot of nukes don't even use the internet whatsoever. There's a lot of really old tech in nukes around here that I've worked in. At least I know I have nothing to worry about in Pittsburgh :)
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Clad
07/07/17 12:40:54 PM
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Twinmold posted...
The scary thing about this, is that as shown with the Stuxnet attack on Iran, you wouldn't even know something is wrong. The whole plant could be priming to blow, and all the digitally controlled instruments would read back "all clear."


We don't need to worry about that because our shit isn't vulnerable in the same way Iran's shit was.
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OpheliaAdenade
07/07/17 12:41:53 PM
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Blo posted...
I'm glad that we have intelligent, knowledgeable people in charge at this particular moment, and I trust them to handle this situation with aplomb.


He'll get Barron on the case ASAP. He's great with the cyber.
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COVxy
07/07/17 12:43:01 PM
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OpheliaAdenade posted...
He'll get Barron on the case ASAP. He's great with the cyber.


"Ohh~ Barron-sempai~~"
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ThePrinceFish
07/07/17 12:43:14 PM
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OpheliaAdenade posted...
Blo posted...
I'm glad that we have intelligent, knowledgeable people in charge at this particular moment, and I trust them to handle this situation with aplomb.


He'll get Barron on the case ASAP. He's great with the cyber.

Barron is The Expert.
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Kurumiee
07/07/17 12:44:04 PM
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geez, why don't they target the north koreans instead
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E32005
07/07/17 12:53:23 PM
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Blo posted...
I'm glad that we have intelligent, knowledgeable people in charge at this particular moment, and I trust them to handle this situation with aplomb.

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DevsBro
07/07/17 1:26:03 PM
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We don't need to worry about that because our s*** isn't vulnerable in the same way Iran's s*** was.

Stuxnet is no joke.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stuxnet

It engineered four different vulnerabilities zero-day attacks--that is attacks that have never been used before, so nobody had ever heard of (meaning nobody could have defended against them), and because the target machine had no network capability whatsoever, it spread by installing itself on every drive it came into contact with, including flash drives, which travel from computer to computer, and spreading itself via any attached local network. Despite infecting millions of drives, it wasn't discovered until long after its release.

Long story short, there is no defense. Not unless the only way information is given to the target machine is by some guy typing it in on a keyboard.
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Clad
07/07/17 1:30:24 PM
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DevsBro posted...
We don't need to worry about that because our s*** isn't vulnerable in the same way Iran's s*** was.

Stuxnet is no joke.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stuxnet

It engineered four different vulnerabilities zero-day attacks--that is attacks that have never been used before, so nobody had ever heard of (meaning nobody could have defended against them), and because the target machine had no network capability whatsoever, it spread by installing itself on every drive it came into contact with, including flash drives, which travel from computer to computer, and spreading itself via any attached local network. Despite infecting millions of drives, it wasn't discovered until long after its release.

Long story short, there is no defense. Not unless the only way information is given to the target machine is by some guy typing it in on a keyboard.


Stuxnet would not work in American facilities
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DarkDragon400
07/07/17 1:35:11 PM
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DevsBro posted...
We don't need to worry about that because our s*** isn't vulnerable in the same way Iran's s*** was.

Stuxnet is no joke.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stuxnet

It engineered four different vulnerabilities zero-day attacks--that is attacks that have never been used before, so nobody had ever heard of (meaning nobody could have defended against them), and because the target machine had no network capability whatsoever, it spread by installing itself on every drive it came into contact with, including flash drives, which travel from computer to computer, and spreading itself via any attached local network. Despite infecting millions of drives, it wasn't discovered until long after its release.

Long story short, there is no defense. Not unless the only way information is given to the target machine is by some guy typing it in on a keyboard.

The defense is finding and reporting such vulnerabilities before they can be used for malicious purposes.
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DevsBro
07/07/17 1:35:30 PM
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Of course not. It's designed for Iranian ones. And what's more, the US (probably) developed it, so they know how to defend against it.

But it set the precedent. Those were not the only four vulnerabilities, and all vulnerabilities are zero day on day zero.
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DevsBro
07/07/17 1:36:11 PM
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The defense is finding and reporting such vulnerabilities before they can be used for malicious purposes.

If it's that simple, get on it.
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