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DarthAragorn
07/08/17 2:46:11 AM
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Should have made it about just Mandarin and removed the shitty twist where the cool Mandarin was just an actor
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MabusIncarnate
07/08/17 2:48:54 AM
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DarthAragorn posted...
Should have made it about just Mandarin and removed the shitty twist where the cool Mandarin was just an actor

I definitely agree. I think it could have saved it from being the worst of the 3.
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GameGodOfAll
07/08/17 2:51:47 AM
#3:


Twist was fantastic. Loved it.

The real problem was that the villain that replaced the fake Mandarin was a lame fire breathing evil businessman.

Still, that twist was aces.
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pegusus123456
07/08/17 2:55:29 AM
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I didn't hate the twist too much, but I knew about it before I watched the movie. What got me was that the entire plot of Iron Man 2 was about Tony angsting over the fact that he was about to die from his arc reactor poisoning him. And then in Iron Man 3, he just casually gets heart surgery to remove it. So dumb.
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GAMER_X
07/08/17 3:11:33 AM
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You can thank the china movie market for neutering the mandarin. The movie studios were too afraid of losing sales from movie goers offended that someone of chinese origin was being depicted as a bad guy, so they completely gimped mandarin and made him into a nobody.


The china market is responsible for alot of garbage these days (see: the never ending line of shitty bayformers flicks and any other movie thats just mindless cgi action with no substance. The movie studios know that if they just throw some western movie stars in a flick and cram a bunch of mindless cgi action into it, it'll sell like crazy in china even if its a garbage movie)
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Dash_Harber
07/08/17 3:23:12 AM
#6:


I agree, but it was sort of the only non-controversial way of handling it.

The real Mandarin was literally a racist caricature with buck teeth, yellow skin, slanted eyes and his fucking name was "The Mandarin". Even if they changed his race, people would just say something along the lines of, "now he is just a caricature of X!". He had to show up at some point, because he is so deeply ingrained in Iron Man lore, but there just wasn't a real way to do it and please everyone.

People fell in love with the fake Mandarin because Kingsley's performance was top notch and the character hit all the bad guy cliches, but if they just ran with it, we probably would have had one side complaining about him being a negative stereotype and the other complaining about how trite the characterization was.
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KronoCloud
07/08/17 3:28:56 AM
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People act like The Mandarin is some amazing character that didn't get his due in IM3 but he's just a racist archetype from a bygone era. Get the fuck over it already.
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SuperShake666
07/08/17 3:37:02 AM
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Good thing the Mandarin is real in the MCU and very pissed about the fake one.
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Webmaster4531
07/08/17 4:01:35 AM
#9:


SuperShake666 posted...
Good thing the Mandarin is real in the MCU and very pissed about the fake one.

Pfft, like the MCU has room for a real Mandarin with Iron Man basically retired, Baron Mordo killing sorcerers, and Thanos getting teased every movie.
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SuperShake666
07/08/17 4:06:33 AM
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Webmaster4531 posted...
Pfft, like the MCU has room for a real Mandarin with Iron Man basically retired, Baron Mordo killing sorcerers, and Thanos getting teased every movie.

http://marvelcinematicuniverse.wikia.com/wiki/Kidnapping_of_Trevor_Slattery
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XplodnPnguins92
07/08/17 4:19:00 AM
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iron man's girl getting superpowers was even dumber.
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Webmaster4531
07/08/17 4:24:25 AM
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SuperShake666 posted...
Webmaster4531 posted...
Pfft, like the MCU has room for a real Mandarin with Iron Man basically retired, Baron Mordo killing sorcerers, and Thanos getting teased every movie.

http://marvelcinematicuniverse.wikia.com/wiki/Kidnapping_of_Trevor_Slattery

A DVD extra they probably forgot about already. Howard the Duck is a step above that being in the end credits.
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Doe
07/08/17 4:27:43 AM
#13:


How the fuck was Iron Man 3 worse than 2

I don't get why people don't like the twist. I imagine just comic book nerds hate it because they wanted the 'real' villain?

The only lame part of Iron Man 3 was when the girl gets that dumb power shit and beats the real Mandarin instead of Iron Man. Serious anti-climax tbh
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DarthAragorn
07/08/17 12:18:44 PM
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I don't even read comics

I just really liked how Ben Kingsley's Mandarin was portrayed and then they threw that away for lame evil businessman.
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prince_leo
07/08/17 12:24:09 PM
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I disliked the villain in IM3 less so because of the twist (neutral on that actually) but because the villain being yet another evil tech buisnessman is lame af
still, I think IM3 is one of the better MCU films
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Skye Reynolds
07/08/17 12:25:34 PM
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KronoCloud posted...
People act like The Mandarin is some amazing character that didn't get his due in IM3 but he's just a racist archetype from a bygone era. Get the fuck over it already.


The problem with the character is the name. Calling him "the Mandarin" is like calling him "the Chinaman." They kept the one aspect of the character they should have discarded and through away what they should have kept.
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Drpooplol
07/08/17 12:27:34 PM
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Movie is just pretty bad overall.
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DrizztLink
07/08/17 12:27:49 PM
#18:


Skye Reynolds posted...
KronoCloud posted...
People act like The Mandarin is some amazing character that didn't get his due in IM3 but he's just a racist archetype from a bygone era. Get the fuck over it already.


The problem with the character is the name. Calling him "the Mandarin" is like calling him "the Chinaman." They kept the one aspect of the character they should have discarded and through away what they should have kept.

Well, it's not like they could just change his name to Jeff and call it a day.
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Skye Reynolds
07/08/17 12:30:48 PM
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DrizztLink posted...
Well, it's not like they could just change his name to Jeff and call it a day.


Why not? DC did it with Pieface.
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Sami1000
07/08/17 12:34:22 PM
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GameGodOfAll posted...
Twist was fantastic. Loved it.

The real problem was that the villain that replaced the fake Mandarin was a lame fire breathing evil businessman.

Still, that twist was aces.


I found that "lame business man" to be really cool. Well, i mean his power. Mandarin should had been the main villain and the business man his bodyguard or something.
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GameGodOfAll
07/08/17 12:37:05 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbsRfRmL5Kc

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1NfamousACE_2
07/08/17 12:37:40 PM
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I thought we act like IM3 didn't happen?
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ReD_ToMaTo
07/08/17 12:39:52 PM
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IM3 is one of the worst comic movies ever.
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UnfairRepresent
07/08/17 12:41:52 PM
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They retconned it.


Now Mandarin is real and is mad at the imposter
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Doom_Art
07/08/17 12:42:01 PM
#25:


The idea of the twist was fine.

But they fucked up in the sense that the villain replacing the Mandarin should've raised the stakes and been more interesting than the Mandarin was

That most certainly was not the case.
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Webmaster4531
07/08/17 12:53:25 PM
#26:


UnfairRepresent posted...
They retconned it.


Now Mandarin is real and is mad at the imposter

No one gives a shit about a DVD extra.
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UnfairRepresent
07/08/17 12:56:45 PM
#27:


Webmaster4531 posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
They retconned it.


Now Mandarin is real and is mad at the imposter

No one gives a shit about a DVD extra.

You underestimate marvel fans
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GameGodOfAll
07/08/17 12:58:08 PM
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Hey that DVD extra was pretty damn good.
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Annihilated
07/08/17 1:01:00 PM
#29:


UnfairRepresent posted...
They retconned it.


Now Mandarin is real and is mad at the imposter


Uhh, who retconned it?
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Webmaster4531
07/08/17 1:01:06 PM
#30:


UnfairRepresent posted...
Webmaster4531 posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
They retconned it.


Now Mandarin is real and is mad at the imposter

No one gives a shit about a DVD extra.

You underestimate marvel fans

They're still waiting for Thanos.
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UnfairRepresent
07/08/17 1:03:31 PM
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Annihilated posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
They retconned it.


Now Mandarin is real and is mad at the imposter


Uhh, who retconned it?

MCU did a short about fake Mandarin bumming around in prison when he is apprehended by goons of the real Mandarin who tell him thAt he is pissed
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Spidey5
07/08/17 1:18:26 PM
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Fuck that actor
Fuck the generic firebreathing loser
Fuck the fact that the suit self destructing didn't kill him, but a regular bash from a steel pipe and one more explosion is what killed him
Fuck the fact that some mother slept with the director to get her annoying and pointless son to take up so much of the screentime of the movie while adding almost nothing
Fuck iron man 3

I'm not usually picky with marvel movies, but man that movie was a disaster lol.
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Ruvan22
07/08/17 1:33:46 PM
#33:


Spidey5 posted...
Fuck that actor
Fuck the generic firebreathing loser
Fuck the fact that the suit self destructing didn't kill him, but a regular bash from a steel pipe and one more explosion is what killed him
Fuck the fact that some mother slept with the director to get her annoying and pointless son to take up so much of the screentime of the movie while adding almost nothing
Fuck iron man 3

I'm not usually picky with marvel movies, but man that movie was a disaster lol.


Did that kids mother really sleep with the director?
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Hinakuluiau
07/08/17 2:36:33 PM
#34:


Spidey5 posted...
I'm not usually picky with marvel movies, but man that movie was a disaster lol.

Hulk, Cap 1, Thor 1, IM2, Thor 2, Avengers 2, and Ant-Man are all worse than IM 3
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DarkChozoGhost
07/08/17 2:43:13 PM
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I do not care at all about the twist. I thought it was fine.

I hate the movie though. Literally the worst in the MCU imo.Hinakuluiau posted...
Spidey5 posted...
I'm not usually picky with marvel movies, but man that movie was a disaster lol.

Hulk, Cap 1, Thor 1, IM2, Thor 2, Avengers 2, and Ant-Man are all worse than IM 3

Literally top 3 MCU and you say it's worse than the actual worst, IM3? Get the fuck out
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literal_garbage
07/08/17 2:44:22 PM
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Are people still hung up about this?

It was like 5 years ago, get over it already
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Skye Reynolds
07/08/17 2:47:58 PM
#38:


literal_garbage posted...
Are people still hung up about this?

It was like 5 years ago, get over it already



If you have an error like that, it's going to remain a sore spot until its corrected. People won't shut up about Iron Man 3 until Hollywood gives them a proper Mandarin or the movie is so old that nobody cares about it anymore. How long ago was Spider-Man 3? I'm still pissed we never got a proper Spider-Man Vs. Venom movie. Batman and Robin? I'll forgive that one when we get good movie adaptations of Poison Ivy and Mr. Freeze.
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Spidey5
07/08/17 2:52:51 PM
#39:


Hinakuluiau posted...
Spidey5 posted...
I'm not usually picky with marvel movies, but man that movie was a disaster lol.

Hulk, Cap 1, Thor 1, IM2, Thor 2, Avengers 2, and Ant-Man are all worse than IM 3

That's a lot of wrong opinions
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Mark_DeRosa
07/08/17 2:54:28 PM
#40:


Hinakuluiau posted...
Spidey5 posted...
I'm not usually picky with marvel movies, but man that movie was a disaster lol.

Hulk, Cap 1, Thor 1, IM2, Thor 2, Avengers 2, and Ant-Man are all worse than IM 3

And man is probably one of the best mcu movies
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AsucaHayashi
07/08/17 2:57:42 PM
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i liked it on account of the fact that you could see both villains in the first 2 movies from a mile away.

i respect their conscious and bold choice(you'll never see me coming) even if the execution was a little off.. like i think there was more actual iron-man in avengers than there was in IM3.
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Hinakuluiau
07/08/17 2:58:29 PM
#42:


Mark_DeRosa posted...
And man is probably one of the best mcu movies

Y'know what? You're right.
IM 1, Avengers 1, Cap 2, GotG 1, and Cap 3 are clearly better than the rest.
Then you have the middle of the road like Ant-Man, Strange, GotG 2, and IM 3
Then there's the bottom level Cap 1, Thor 1, IM2, and Avengers 2
And finally the shitty ones that are Hulk and Thor 2
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DarkChozoGhost
07/08/17 3:03:43 PM
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Hinakuluiau posted...
Mark_DeRosa posted...
And man is probably one of the best mcu movies

Y'know what? You're right.
IM 1, Avengers 1, Cap 2, GotG 1, and Cap 3 are clearly better than the rest.
Then you have the middle of the road like Ant-Man, Strange, GotG 2, and IM 3
Then there's the bottom level Cap 1, Thor 1, IM2, and Avengers 2
And finally the shitty ones that are Hulk and Thor 2

Drop IM3 two tiers and raise Ultron one.
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omega cookie
07/08/17 3:08:47 PM
#44:


Ben Kingsley was far better then that shitty character deserved. Hell, Ben Kingsley was better then the MCU deserved. Hell, watching Ben Kingsley be a goofy, drunken asshole was the only decent part of that movie.
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Dash_Harber
07/08/17 4:25:46 PM
#45:


Webmaster4531 posted...
SuperShake666 posted...
Webmaster4531 posted...
Pfft, like the MCU has room for a real Mandarin with Iron Man basically retired, Baron Mordo killing sorcerers, and Thanos getting teased every movie.

http://marvelcinematicuniverse.wikia.com/wiki/Kidnapping_of_Trevor_Slattery

A DVD extra they probably forgot about already. Howard the Duck is a step above that being in the end credits.


Howard the Duck actually appeared in the MCU twice now, so, yeah, he's already more important.
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Skye Reynolds
07/08/17 4:31:06 PM
#46:


Howard the Duck got a second cameo? Which film?
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Dash_Harber
07/08/17 4:32:08 PM
#47:


Skye Reynolds posted...
Howard the Duck got a second cameo? Which film?


Pretty sure he was in the bar in GotG II.
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GOATSLAYER
07/08/17 4:32:44 PM
#48:


Dash_Harber posted...
Skye Reynolds posted...
Howard the Duck got a second cameo? Which film?


Pretty sure he was in the bar in GotG II.

Yup
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Skye Reynolds
07/08/17 4:34:01 PM
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Ah, thanks. Still haven't seen that one yet.

At this point, I'm probably gonna have to wait for home video / Netflix / cable.
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prince_leo
07/08/17 5:02:50 PM
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omega cookie posted...
Hell, Ben Kingsley was better then the MCU deserved.

tbh there are quite a few actors in the mcu who are much better than even the best of marvel
but y'know, paychecks
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