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DarthAragorn 07/08/17 2:46:11 AM #1: |
Should have made it about just Mandarin and removed the shitty twist where the cool Mandarin was just an actor
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MabusIncarnate 07/08/17 2:48:54 AM #2: |
DarthAragorn posted...
Should have made it about just Mandarin and removed the shitty twist where the cool Mandarin was just an actor I definitely agree. I think it could have saved it from being the worst of the 3. --- Ten million dollars on a losing campaign Twenty million starving and writhing in pain ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GameGodOfAll 07/08/17 2:51:47 AM #3: |
Twist was fantastic. Loved it.
The real problem was that the villain that replaced the fake Mandarin was a lame fire breathing evil businessman. Still, that twist was aces. --- My Words Were True And Sheamus Made You Believe! http://imgur.com/Fc39f.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pegusus123456 07/08/17 2:55:29 AM #4: |
I didn't hate the twist too much, but I knew about it before I watched the movie. What got me was that the entire plot of Iron Man 2 was about Tony angsting over the fact that he was about to die from his arc reactor poisoning him. And then in Iron Man 3, he just casually gets heart surgery to remove it. So dumb.
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GAMER_X 07/08/17 3:11:33 AM #5: |
You can thank the china movie market for neutering the mandarin. The movie studios were too afraid of losing sales from movie goers offended that someone of chinese origin was being depicted as a bad guy, so they completely gimped mandarin and made him into a nobody.
The china market is responsible for alot of garbage these days (see: the never ending line of shitty bayformers flicks and any other movie thats just mindless cgi action with no substance. The movie studios know that if they just throw some western movie stars in a flick and cram a bunch of mindless cgi action into it, it'll sell like crazy in china even if its a garbage movie) --- "Dragon Age 2 was a train wreck the entire game, ME3 was like screaming rollercoaster that ran out of track and everyone died." -nIMr0D888 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dash_Harber 07/08/17 3:23:12 AM #6: |
I agree, but it was sort of the only non-controversial way of handling it.
The real Mandarin was literally a racist caricature with buck teeth, yellow skin, slanted eyes and his fucking name was "The Mandarin". Even if they changed his race, people would just say something along the lines of, "now he is just a caricature of X!". He had to show up at some point, because he is so deeply ingrained in Iron Man lore, but there just wasn't a real way to do it and please everyone. People fell in love with the fake Mandarin because Kingsley's performance was top notch and the character hit all the bad guy cliches, but if they just ran with it, we probably would have had one side complaining about him being a negative stereotype and the other complaining about how trite the characterization was. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KronoCloud 07/08/17 3:28:56 AM #7: |
People act like The Mandarin is some amazing character that didn't get his due in IM3 but he's just a racist archetype from a bygone era. Get the fuck over it already.
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SuperShake666 07/08/17 3:37:02 AM #8: |
Good thing the Mandarin is real in the MCU and very pissed about the fake one.
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Webmaster4531 07/08/17 4:01:35 AM #9: |
SuperShake666 posted...
Good thing the Mandarin is real in the MCU and very pissed about the fake one. Pfft, like the MCU has room for a real Mandarin with Iron Man basically retired, Baron Mordo killing sorcerers, and Thanos getting teased every movie. --- Ad Hominem. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SuperShake666 07/08/17 4:06:33 AM #10: |
Webmaster4531 posted...
Pfft, like the MCU has room for a real Mandarin with Iron Man basically retired, Baron Mordo killing sorcerers, and Thanos getting teased every movie. http://marvelcinematicuniverse.wikia.com/wiki/Kidnapping_of_Trevor_Slattery --- "Look, if I was good at math, I wouldn't be on CE at 2:00 the morning clicking on topics about porn stars ****ing horses." - May 2017, Dash_Harber ... Copied to Clipboard!
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XplodnPnguins92 07/08/17 4:19:00 AM #11: |
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Webmaster4531 07/08/17 4:24:25 AM #12: |
SuperShake666 posted...
Webmaster4531 posted...Pfft, like the MCU has room for a real Mandarin with Iron Man basically retired, Baron Mordo killing sorcerers, and Thanos getting teased every movie. A DVD extra they probably forgot about already. Howard the Duck is a step above that being in the end credits. --- Ad Hominem. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Doe 07/08/17 4:27:43 AM #13: |
How the fuck was Iron Man 3 worse than 2
I don't get why people don't like the twist. I imagine just comic book nerds hate it because they wanted the 'real' villain? The only lame part of Iron Man 3 was when --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DarthAragorn 07/08/17 12:18:44 PM #14: |
I don't even read comics
I just really liked how Ben Kingsley's Mandarin was portrayed and then they threw that away for lame evil businessman. --- i7 7700k | GTX 1080 | 16GB DDR4 | Asus Z270E | Dell S2716DG http://steamcommunity.com/id/StoneWallace17 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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prince_leo 07/08/17 12:24:09 PM #15: |
I disliked the villain in IM3 less so because of the twist (neutral on that actually) but because the villain being yet another evil tech buisnessman is lame af
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Skye Reynolds 07/08/17 12:25:34 PM #16: |
KronoCloud posted...
People act like The Mandarin is some amazing character that didn't get his due in IM3 but he's just a racist archetype from a bygone era. Get the fuck over it already. The problem with the character is the name. Calling him "the Mandarin" is like calling him "the Chinaman." They kept the one aspect of the character they should have discarded and through away what they should have kept. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Drpooplol 07/08/17 12:27:34 PM #17: |
Movie is just pretty bad overall.
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DrizztLink 07/08/17 12:27:49 PM #18: |
Skye Reynolds posted...
KronoCloud posted...People act like The Mandarin is some amazing character that didn't get his due in IM3 but he's just a racist archetype from a bygone era. Get the fuck over it already. Well, it's not like they could just change his name to Jeff and call it a day. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Skye Reynolds 07/08/17 12:30:48 PM #19: |
DrizztLink posted...
Well, it's not like they could just change his name to Jeff and call it a day. Why not? DC did it with Pieface. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sami1000 07/08/17 12:34:22 PM #20: |
GameGodOfAll posted...
Twist was fantastic. Loved it. I found that "lame business man" to be really cool. Well, i mean his power. Mandarin should had been the main villain and the business man his bodyguard or something. --- What's cooler than werewolf? Wereman! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GameGodOfAll 07/08/17 12:37:05 PM #21: |
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1NfamousACE_2 07/08/17 12:37:40 PM #22: |
I thought we act like IM3 didn't happen?
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ReD_ToMaTo 07/08/17 12:39:52 PM #23: |
IM3 is one of the worst comic movies ever.
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UnfairRepresent 07/08/17 12:41:52 PM #24: |
They retconned it.
Now Mandarin is real and is mad at the imposter --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Doom_Art 07/08/17 12:42:01 PM #25: |
The idea of the twist was fine.
But they fucked up in the sense that the villain replacing the Mandarin should've raised the stakes and been more interesting than the Mandarin was That most certainly was not the case. --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 http://i.imgur.com/mPvcy.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Webmaster4531 07/08/17 12:53:25 PM #26: |
UnfairRepresent posted...
They retconned it. No one gives a shit about a DVD extra. --- Ad Hominem. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 07/08/17 12:56:45 PM #27: |
Webmaster4531 posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...They retconned it. You underestimate marvel fans --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GameGodOfAll 07/08/17 12:58:08 PM #28: |
Hey that DVD extra was pretty damn good.
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Annihilated 07/08/17 1:01:00 PM #29: |
UnfairRepresent posted...
They retconned it. Uhh, who retconned it? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Webmaster4531 07/08/17 1:01:06 PM #30: |
UnfairRepresent posted...
Webmaster4531 posted...UnfairRepresent posted...They retconned it. They're still waiting for Thanos. --- Ad Hominem. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 07/08/17 1:03:31 PM #31: |
Annihilated posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...They retconned it. MCU did a short about fake Mandarin bumming around in prison when he is apprehended by goons of the real Mandarin who tell him thAt he is pissed --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Spidey5 07/08/17 1:18:26 PM #32: |
Fuck that actor
Fuck the generic firebreathing loser Fuck the fact that the suit self destructing didn't kill him, but a regular bash from a steel pipe and one more explosion is what killed him Fuck the fact that some mother slept with the director to get her annoying and pointless son to take up so much of the screentime of the movie while adding almost nothing Fuck iron man 3 I'm not usually picky with marvel movies, but man that movie was a disaster lol. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ruvan22 07/08/17 1:33:46 PM #33: |
Spidey5 posted...
Fuck that actor Did that kids mother really sleep with the director? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Hinakuluiau 07/08/17 2:36:33 PM #34: |
Spidey5 posted...
I'm not usually picky with marvel movies, but man that movie was a disaster lol. Hulk, Cap 1, Thor 1, IM2, Thor 2, Avengers 2, and Ant-Man are all worse than IM 3 --- There are some things where I just bypass critical thinking. - ROD http://error1355.com/ce/Hinakuluiau.html ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DarkChozoGhost 07/08/17 2:43:13 PM #35: |
I do not care at all about the twist. I thought it was fine.
I hate the movie though. Literally the worst in the MCU imo.Hinakuluiau posted... Spidey5 posted...I'm not usually picky with marvel movies, but man that movie was a disaster lol. Literally top 3 MCU and you say it's worse than the actual worst, IM3? Get the fuck out --- My sister's dog bit a hole in my Super Mario Land cartridge. It still works though - Skye Reynolds 3DS FC: 3239-5612-0115 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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literal_garbage 07/08/17 2:44:22 PM #37: |
Are people still hung up about this?
It was like 5 years ago, get over it already --- - literal garbage ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Skye Reynolds 07/08/17 2:47:58 PM #38: |
literal_garbage posted...
Are people still hung up about this? If you have an error like that, it's going to remain a sore spot until its corrected. People won't shut up about Iron Man 3 until Hollywood gives them a proper Mandarin or the movie is so old that nobody cares about it anymore. How long ago was Spider-Man 3? I'm still pissed we never got a proper Spider-Man Vs. Venom movie. Batman and Robin? I'll forgive that one when we get good movie adaptations of Poison Ivy and Mr. Freeze. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Spidey5 07/08/17 2:52:51 PM #39: |
Hinakuluiau posted...
Spidey5 posted...I'm not usually picky with marvel movies, but man that movie was a disaster lol. That's a lot of wrong opinions --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mark_DeRosa 07/08/17 2:54:28 PM #40: |
Hinakuluiau posted...
Spidey5 posted...I'm not usually picky with marvel movies, but man that movie was a disaster lol. And man is probably one of the best mcu movies --- Steve Nash | 13| Phoenix Suns | PPG: 16.9 | RPG: 3.60 | APG 11.3 | EFF: +22.96 http://www.gifsoup.com/view3/2283379/dance-o.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AsucaHayashi 07/08/17 2:57:42 PM #41: |
i liked it on account of the fact that you could see both villains in the first 2 movies from a mile away.
i respect their conscious and bold choice(you'll never see me coming) even if the execution was a little off.. like i think there was more actual iron-man in avengers than there was in IM3. --- Not being able to land shoryuken consistently on one method of input as opposed to another is a matter of preference - zedzilla http://i.imgur.com/9Yv0R2Z.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Hinakuluiau 07/08/17 2:58:29 PM #42: |
Mark_DeRosa posted...
And man is probably one of the best mcu movies Y'know what? You're right. IM 1, Avengers 1, Cap 2, GotG 1, and Cap 3 are clearly better than the rest. Then you have the middle of the road like Ant-Man, Strange, GotG 2, and IM 3 Then there's the bottom level Cap 1, Thor 1, IM2, and Avengers 2 And finally the shitty ones that are Hulk and Thor 2 --- There are some things where I just bypass critical thinking. - ROD http://error1355.com/ce/Hinakuluiau.html ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DarkChozoGhost 07/08/17 3:03:43 PM #43: |
Hinakuluiau posted...
Mark_DeRosa posted...And man is probably one of the best mcu movies Drop IM3 two tiers and raise Ultron one. --- My sister's dog bit a hole in my Super Mario Land cartridge. It still works though - Skye Reynolds 3DS FC: 3239-5612-0115 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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omega cookie 07/08/17 3:08:47 PM #44: |
Ben Kingsley was far better then that shitty character deserved. Hell, Ben Kingsley was better then the MCU deserved. Hell, watching Ben Kingsley be a goofy, drunken asshole was the only decent part of that movie.
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Dash_Harber 07/08/17 4:25:46 PM #45: |
Webmaster4531 posted...
SuperShake666 posted...Webmaster4531 posted...Pfft, like the MCU has room for a real Mandarin with Iron Man basically retired, Baron Mordo killing sorcerers, and Thanos getting teased every movie. Howard the Duck actually appeared in the MCU twice now, so, yeah, he's already more important. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Skye Reynolds 07/08/17 4:31:06 PM #46: |
Howard the Duck got a second cameo? Which film?
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Dash_Harber 07/08/17 4:32:08 PM #47: |
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Howard the Duck got a second cameo? Which film? Pretty sure he was in the bar in GotG II. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GOATSLAYER 07/08/17 4:32:44 PM #48: |
Dash_Harber posted...
Skye Reynolds posted...Howard the Duck got a second cameo? Which film? Yup --- Hide your kids, hide your goats ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Skye Reynolds 07/08/17 4:34:01 PM #49: |
Ah, thanks. Still haven't seen that one yet.
At this point, I'm probably gonna have to wait for home video / Netflix / cable. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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prince_leo 07/08/17 5:02:50 PM #50: |
omega cookie posted...
Hell, Ben Kingsley was better then the MCU deserved. tbh there are quite a few actors in the mcu who are much better than even the best of marvel but y'know, paychecks --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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