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Clad 07/11/17 9:17:54 PM #1:	Are they? <cite>Clad posted [p:882748425] in Are leftis... [t:75555545]...</cite> <quote>Are they?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
meralonne 07/11/17 9:18:14 PM #2:	No --- "Sigs are for dorks."-- my wife <cite>meralonne posted [p:882748442] in Are leftis... [t:75555545]...</cite> <quote>No</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Clad 07/11/17 9:19:48 PM #3:	meralonne posted... No have you conferred with the high priests yet? just wanna make sure @Antifar @averagejoel <cite>Clad posted [p:882748508] in Are leftis... [t:75555545]...</cite> <quote><cite>meralonne posted...</cite> <quote>No</quote> have you conferred with the high priests yet? just wanna make sure @Antifar @averagejoel</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kaname_Madoka 07/11/17 9:20:49 PM #4:	odd bait but CE will bite --- http://imgur.com/x9wX8Pz 3DS Friend Code: 4682-8964-8708 Skullgirls: F**ua (lul censor) \| Sm4sh: Toon Link/Yoshi <cite>Kaname_Madoka posted [p:882748565] in Are leftis... [t:75555545]...</cite> <quote>odd bait but CE will bite</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
meralonne 07/11/17 9:21:38 PM #5:	Clad posted... meralonne posted... No have you conferred with the high priests yet? What the shit does that mean? --- "Sigs are for dorks."-- my wife <cite>meralonne posted [p:882748610] in Are leftis... [t:75555545]...</cite> <quote><cite>Clad posted...</cite> <quote><cite>meralonne posted...</cite> <quote>No</quote> have you conferred with the high priests yet? </quote> What the shit does that mean?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 07/11/17 9:22:02 PM #6:	I am not a "high priest" of leftism, but I would argue that leftism is incompatible with the regime of private property as presently construed. --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:882748637] in Are leftis... [t:75555545]...</cite> <quote>I am not a "high priest" of leftism, but I would argue that leftism is incompatible with the regime of private property as presently construed.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Clad 07/11/17 9:22:48 PM #7:	meralonne posted... No Antifar posted... I am not a "high priest" of leftism, but I would argue that leftism is incompatible with the regime of private property as presently construed. umm <cite>Clad posted [p:882748674] in Are leftis... [t:75555545]...</cite> <quote><cite>meralonne posted...</cite> <quote>No</quote> <cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>I am not a "high priest" of leftism, but I would argue that leftism is incompatible with the regime of private property as presently construed.</quote> umm</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
meralonne 07/11/17 9:23:22 PM #8:	Oh for fucks sake. --- "Sigs are for dorks."-- my wife <cite>meralonne posted [p:882748713] in Are leftis... [t:75555545]...</cite> <quote>Oh for fucks sake.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Clad 07/11/17 9:24:32 PM #9:	meralonne posted... Oh for fucks sake. Is Antifar just too far left to accurately represent leftism? <cite>Clad posted [p:882748789] in Are leftis... [t:75555545]...</cite> <quote><cite>meralonne posted...</cite> <quote>Oh for fucks sake.</quote> Is Antifar just too far left to accurately represent leftism?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kaname_Madoka 07/11/17 9:24:38 PM #10:	Clad posted... meralonne posted... No Antifar posted... I am not a "high priest" of leftism, but I would argue that leftism is incompatible with the regime of private property as presently construed. umm wow people have different opinions, stop the press --- http://imgur.com/x9wX8Pz 3DS Friend Code: 4682-8964-8708 Skullgirls: F**ua (lul censor) \| Sm4sh: Toon Link/Yoshi <cite>Kaname_Madoka posted [p:882748795] in Are leftis... [t:75555545]...</cite> <quote><cite>Clad posted...</cite> <quote><cite>meralonne posted...</cite> <quote>No</quote> <cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>I am not a "high priest" of leftism, but I would argue that leftism is incompatible with the regime of private property as presently construed.</quote> umm</quote> wow people have different opinions, stop the press</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 07/11/17 9:24:55 PM #11:	Antifar posted... I am not a "high priest" of leftism, but I would argue that leftism is incompatible with the regime of private property as presently construed. Do Sweden and Norway therefore not have leftist governments? --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:882748812] in Are leftis... [t:75555545]...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>I am not a "high priest" of leftism, but I would argue that leftism is incompatible with the regime of private property as presently construed.</quote> Do Sweden and Norway therefore not have leftist governments?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Clad 07/11/17 9:25:23 PM #12:	Mal_Fet posted... Antifar posted... I am not a "high priest" of leftism, but I would argue that leftism is incompatible with the regime of private property as presently construed. Do Sweden and Norway therefore not have leftist governments? B-but Bernie! <cite>Clad posted [p:882748838] in Are leftis... [t:75555545]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>I am not a "high priest" of leftism, but I would argue that leftism is incompatible with the regime of private property as presently construed.</quote> Do Sweden and Norway therefore not have leftist governments?</quote> B-but Bernie!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Capn Circus 07/11/17 9:26:17 PM #13:	Clad posted... meralonne posted... No Antifar posted... I am not a "high priest" of leftism, but I would argue that leftism is incompatible with the regime of private property as presently construed. umm heheh --- "I think that man will be president right about the time when spaceships come down filled with dinosaurs in red capes" - Tom Hanks <cite>Capn Circus posted [p:882748889] in Are leftis... [t:75555545]...</cite> <quote><cite>Clad posted...</cite> <quote><cite>meralonne posted...</cite> <quote>No</quote> <cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>I am not a "high priest" of leftism, but I would argue that leftism is incompatible with the regime of private property as presently construed.</quote> umm</quote> heheh</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 07/11/17 9:27:07 PM #14:	Sweden and Norway are social democracies, but I would not say that they are leftist in composition. --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:882748945] in Are leftis... [t:75555545]...</cite> <quote>Sweden and Norway are social democracies, but I would not say that they are leftist in composition.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MutantJohn 07/11/17 9:28:25 PM #15:	Proud is one of my favorite posters --- "Oh, my mother; oh, my friends, ask the angels, will I ever see heaven again?" - Laura Marling <cite>MutantJohn posted [p:882749014] in Are leftis... [t:75555545]...</cite> <quote>Proud is one of my favorite posters</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Clad 07/11/17 9:28:55 PM #16:	Antifar posted... Sweden and Norway are social democracies, but I would not say that they are leftist in composition. Can you please describe what you envision to be an ideal world and society? Please include the current technological trends (automation, artificial intelligence, etc) in your analysis of what kind of future you'd consider ideal. <cite>Clad posted [p:882749046] in Are leftis... [t:75555545]...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>Sweden and Norway are social democracies, but I would not say that they are leftist in composition.</quote> Can you please describe what you envision to be an ideal world and society? Please include the current technological trends (automation, artificial intelligence, etc) in your analysis of what kind of future you'd consider ideal.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
meralonne 07/11/17 9:28:56 PM #17:	Clad posted... meralonne posted... Oh for fucks sake. Is Antifar just too far left to accurately represent leftism? Nobody that shitposts on this board can accurately represent "leftism", or "right-ism", for that matter. --- "Sigs are for dorks."-- my wife <cite>meralonne posted [p:882749047] in Are leftis... [t:75555545]...</cite> <quote><cite>Clad posted...</cite> <quote><cite>meralonne posted...</cite> <quote>Oh for fucks sake.</quote> Is Antifar just too far left to accurately represent leftism?</quote> Nobody that shitposts on this board can accurately represent "leftism", or "right-ism", for that matter.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
literal_garbage 07/11/17 9:29:24 PM #18:	Kaname_Madoka posted... Clad posted... meralonne posted... No Antifar posted... I am not a "high priest" of leftism, but I would argue that leftism is incompatible with the regime of private property as presently construed. umm wow people have different opinions, stop the press The concept of thinking for yourself is a enigma to proudclad --- - literal garbage <cite>literal_garbage posted [p:882749069] in Are leftis... [t:75555545]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kaname_Madoka posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Clad posted...</cite> <quote><cite>meralonne posted...</cite> <quote>No</quote> <cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>I am not a "high priest" of leftism, but I would argue that leftism is incompatible with the regime of private property as presently construed.</quote> umm</quote> wow people have different opinions, stop the press</quote> The concept of thinking for yourself is a enigma to proudclad</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Clad 07/11/17 9:29:29 PM #19:	MutantJohn posted... Proud is one of my favorite posters I'm Proud to say that I'm one of my own favorite posters. <cite>Clad posted [p:882749078] in Are leftis... [t:75555545]...</cite> <quote><cite>MutantJohn posted...</cite> <quote>Proud is one of my favorite posters</quote> I'm Proud to say that I'm one of my own favorite posters.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
creativerealms 07/11/17 9:29:37 PM #20:	No. --- when you stub your toes it's the SJWs fualt. <cite>creativerealms posted [p:882749084] in Are leftis... [t:75555545]...</cite> <quote>No.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 07/11/17 9:29:51 PM #21:	meralonne posted... Nobody that shitposts on this board can accurately represent "leftism", or "right-ism", for that matter. I mean, yeah, I'm just a GameFAQs poster who has read a few books. Don't take me as the be-all end-all on any subject. --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:882749094] in Are leftis... [t:75555545]...</cite> <quote><cite>meralonne posted...</cite> <quote>Nobody that shitposts on this board can accurately represent "leftism", or "right-ism", for that matter. </quote> I mean, yeah, I'm just a GameFAQs poster who has read a few books. Don't take me as the be-all end-all on any subject.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kaname_Madoka 07/11/17 9:30:37 PM #22:	literal_garbage posted... The concept of thinking for yourself is a enigma to proudclad i mean ur not wrong --- http://imgur.com/x9wX8Pz 3DS Friend Code: 4682-8964-8708 Skullgirls: F**ua (lul censor) \| Sm4sh: Toon Link/Yoshi <cite>Kaname_Madoka posted [p:882749136] in Are leftis... [t:75555545]...</cite> <quote><cite>literal_garbage posted...</cite> <quote> The concept of thinking for yourself is a enigma to proudclad</quote> i mean ur not wrong</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
literal_garbage 07/11/17 9:30:54 PM #23:	Antifar posted... meralonne posted... Nobody that shitposts on this board can accurately represent "leftism", or "right-ism", for that matter. I mean, yeah, I'm just a GameFAQs post. Don't take me as the be-all end-all on any subject. Oh yeah, like you don't plan the weekly meetings that all liberals go to --- - literal garbage <cite>literal_garbage posted [p:882749151] in Are leftis... [t:75555545]...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote><cite>meralonne posted...</cite> <quote>Nobody that shitposts on this board can accurately represent "leftism", or "right-ism", for that matter. </quote> I mean, yeah, I'm just a GameFAQs post. Don't take me as the be-all end-all on any subject.</quote> Oh yeah, like you don't plan the weekly meetings that all liberals go to</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Clad 07/11/17 9:32:29 PM #24:	Kaname_Madoka posted... literal_garbage posted... <cite>Clad posted [p:882749241] in Are leftis... [t:75555545]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kaname_Madoka posted...</cite> <quote></quote> <cite>literal_garbage posted...</cite></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Broseph_Stalin 07/11/17 9:33:23 PM #25:	stop taking proudclad shitpost seriously <cite>Broseph_Stalin posted [p:882749292] in Are leftis... [t:75555545]...</cite> <quote>stop taking proudclad shitpost seriously</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Clad 07/11/17 9:33:43 PM #26:	Broseph_Stalin posted... stop taking proudclad shitpost seriously Are you still pretending to be a doctor btw? <cite>Clad posted [p:882749313] in Are leftis... [t:75555545]...</cite> <quote><cite>Broseph_Stalin posted...</cite> <quote>stop taking proudclad shitpost seriously</quote> Are you still pretending to be a doctor btw?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kaname_Madoka 07/11/17 9:34:15 PM #27:	Clad posted... Kaname_Madoka posted... literal_garbage posted... madoka da GOAT --- http://imgur.com/x9wX8Pz 3DS Friend Code: 4682-8964-8708 Skullgirls: F**ua (lul censor) \| Sm4sh: Toon Link/Yoshi <cite>Kaname_Madoka posted [p:882749339] in Are leftis... [t:75555545]...</cite> <quote><cite>Clad posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kaname_Madoka posted...</cite> <quote></quote> <cite>literal_garbage posted...</cite></quote> madoka da GOAT</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 07/11/17 9:34:38 PM #28:	literal_garbage posted... Oh yeah, like you don't plan the weekly meetings that all liberals go to I'm not even a liberal. --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:882749371] in Are leftis... [t:75555545]...</cite> <quote><cite>literal_garbage posted...</cite> <quote>Oh yeah, like you don't plan the weekly meetings that all liberals go to </quote> I'm not even a liberal.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 07/11/17 9:35:07 PM #29:	You need to find a new gimmick. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:882749405] in Are leftis... [t:75555545]...</cite> <quote>You need to find a new gimmick.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
averagejoel 07/11/17 9:38:23 PM #30:	private property is theft, mmkay --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:882749574] in Are leftis... [t:75555545]...</cite> <quote>private property is theft, mmkay</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
literal_garbage 07/11/17 9:39:00 PM #31:	Antifar posted... literal_garbage posted... Oh yeah, like you don't plan the weekly meetings that all liberals go to I'm not even a liberal. That's exactly what someone in charge would say --- - literal garbage <cite>literal_garbage posted [p:882749601] in Are leftis... [t:75555545]...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote><cite>literal_garbage posted...</cite> <quote>Oh yeah, like you don't plan the weekly meetings that all liberals go to </quote> I'm not even a liberal.</quote> That's exactly what someone in charge would say</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kaname_Madoka 07/11/17 9:39:24 PM #32:	there is NO ethical hentai under capitalism --- http://imgur.com/x9wX8Pz 3DS Friend Code: 4682-8964-8708 Skullgirls: F**ua (lul censor) \| Sm4sh: Toon Link/Yoshi <cite>Kaname_Madoka posted [p:882749630] in Are leftis... [t:75555545]...</cite> <quote>there is NO ethical hentai under capitalism</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Clad 07/11/17 9:39:32 PM #33:	averagejoel posted... private property is theft, mmkay lmfao! <cite>Clad posted [p:882749638] in Are leftis... [t:75555545]...</cite> <quote><cite>averagejoel posted...</cite> <quote>private property is theft, mmkay</quote> lmfao!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Clad 07/11/17 9:41:44 PM #34:	takes averagejoel's stuff because private property is theft --- "private property is theft, mmkay" - averagejoel <cite>Clad posted [p:882749763] in Are leftis... [t:75555545]...</cite> <quote>takes averagejoel's stuff because private property is theft</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
prince_leo 07/11/17 9:43:20 PM #35:	what about intellectual property? --- https://imgur.com/uHUvpSH http://error1355.com/ce/prince_leo.html <cite>prince_leo posted [p:882749859] in Are leftis... [t:75555545]...</cite> <quote>what about intellectual property?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 07/11/17 9:43:55 PM #36:	literal_garbage posted... Antifar posted... literal_garbage posted... Oh yeah, like you don't plan the weekly meetings that all liberals go to I'm not even a liberal. That's exactly what someone in charge would say No, he's right. Leftists are not liberals. Go to any leftist forum like /leftypol/ and they shit on liberals like crazy. --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:882749890] in Are leftis... [t:75555545]...</cite> <quote><cite>literal_garbage posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote><cite>literal_garbage posted...</cite> <quote>Oh yeah, like you don't plan the weekly meetings that all liberals go to </quote> I'm not even a liberal.</quote> That's exactly what someone in charge would say</quote> No, he's right. Leftists are not liberals. Go to any leftist forum like /leftypol/ and they shit on liberals like crazy.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Clad 07/11/17 9:44:37 PM #37:	prince_leo posted... what about intellectual property? That's probably theft too. --- "private property is theft, mmkay" - averagejoel <cite>Clad posted [p:882749928] in Are leftis... [t:75555545]...</cite> <quote><cite>prince_leo posted...</cite> <quote>what about intellectual property?</quote> That's probably theft too.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solid Snake07 07/11/17 9:46:25 PM #38:	god damn millennials are dumbo --- "People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time" -Detective Rust Cohle <cite>Solid Snake07 posted [p:882750029] in Are leftis... [t:75555545]...</cite> <quote>god damn millennials are dumbo</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 07/11/17 9:48:51 PM #39:	A useful primer on this subject --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:882750172] in Are leftis... [t:75555545]...</cite> <quote>A useful primer on this subject </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
averagejoel 07/11/17 9:49:28 PM #40:	Clad posted... takes averagejoel's stuff because private property is theft personal property and private property are not the same thing --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:882750206] in Are leftis... [t:75555545]...</cite> <quote><cite>Clad posted...</cite> <quote>takes averagejoel's stuff because private property is theft</quote> personal property and private property are not the same thing</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Clad 07/11/17 9:53:57 PM #41:	Antifar posted... A useful primer on this subject snip snip People get jobs, usually, because they can fulfill the job requirements. A business owner who invests their own capital into risky ventures is going to hire the people who can do the best job possible. It isn't that the business owner is wielding such power or influence over hiring - it's that people are necessarily hired based on their skills and expertise. And people get paid an agreed upon wage. People who want more pay are free to increase their skills and expertise so they can get more pay, and they're also free to risk their own capital in risky business ventures that might or might not work out. Business owners make money because they created the jobs in the first place through their investments. Pretty basic economics. That image is nonsense lol. --- "private property is theft, mmkay" - averagejoel <cite>Clad posted [p:882750433] in Are leftis... [t:75555545]...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>A useful primer on this subject snip snip</quote> People get jobs, usually, because they can fulfill the job requirements. A business owner who invests their own capital into risky ventures is going to hire the people who can do the best job possible. It isn't that the business owner is wielding such power or influence over hiring - it's that people are necessarily hired based on their skills and expertise. And people get paid an agreed upon wage. People who want more pay are free to increase their skills and expertise so they can get more pay, and they're also free to risk their own capital in risky business ventures that might or might not work out. Business owners make money because they created the jobs in the first place through their investments. Pretty basic economics. That image is nonsense lol.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 07/11/17 9:55:04 PM #42:	Antifar posted... A useful primer on this subject Question: Since there's nothing stopping people from running their business like a socialist system, and since socialism is such a winning concept for everyone involved, how come you never see any socialist/Marxist businesses anywhere? --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:882750484] in Are leftis... [t:75555545]...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>A useful primer on this subject </quote> Question: Since there's nothing stopping people from running their business like a socialist system, and since socialism is such a winning concept for everyone involved, how come you never see any socialist/Marxist businesses anywhere?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
lordofmud 07/11/17 9:57:29 PM #43:	I don't post here much but I will on this issue. Not sure where you are posting from. I'm in America so will talk about that only. I have to say that government seizure of private property is much more of a problem than the vague idea that in a socialist country you need to fear it be coming communist. In America it is legal for our government to seize assets, cash or property if the item was used in the commission of a crime. So, for instance if your 16 year old son sells marihuana to his friends and then gets busted the police can seize your house because that is where the transactions occurred. It gets better because even if the charges are dismissed the forfeiture stands. Now the best part. If you attempt to get your items back you must work within the very system that seized your items in the first place. This does not even begin to get into issues such as warrantless searches by the government. That's a totally different area but does figure into your topic. We must be much more worried about our government apparatus trampling on our property right than some idea that socialism will lead to forfeiture of all personal wealth. I don't post much on this site so I'll take you answers off the air. --- I know, indeed, the evil of that I purpose; but my inclination gets the better of my judgment. - Euripides <cite>lordofmud posted [p:882750619] in Are leftis... [t:75555545]...</cite> <quote>I don't post here much but I will on this issue. Not sure where you are posting from. I'm in America so will talk about that only. I have to say that government seizure of private property is much more of a problem than the vague idea that in a socialist country you need to fear it be coming communist. In America it is legal for our government to seize assets, cash or property if the item was used in the commission of a crime. So, for instance if your 16 year old son sells marihuana to his friends and then gets busted the police can seize your house because that is where the transactions occurred. It gets better because even if the charges are dismissed the forfeiture stands. Now the best part. If you attempt to get your items back you must work within the very system that seized your items in the first place. This does not even begin to get into issues such as warrantless searches by the government. That's a totally different area but does figure into your topic. We must be much more worried about our government apparatus trampling on our property right than some idea that socialism will lead to forfeiture of all personal wealth. I don't post much on this site so I'll take you answers off the air.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Clad 07/11/17 9:58:26 PM #44:	Mal_Fet posted... Question: Since there's nothing stopping people from running their business like a socialist system, and since socialism is such a winning concept for everyone involved, how come you never see any socialist/Marxist businesses anywhere? Well, they do exist for a brief while until they go out of business lmao --- "private property is theft, mmkay" - averagejoel <cite>Clad posted [p:882750670] in Are leftis... [t:75555545]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote>Question: Since there's nothing stopping people from running their business like a socialist system, and since socialism is such a winning concept for everyone involved, how come you never see any socialist/Marxist businesses anywhere?</quote> Well, they do exist for a brief while until they go out of business lmao</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Clad 07/11/17 9:59:22 PM #45:	lordofmud posted... I don't post here much but I will on this issue. Not sure where you are posting from. I'm in America so will talk about that only. I have to say that government seizure of private property is much more of a problem than the vague idea that in a socialist country you need to fear it be coming communist. In America it is legal for our government to seize assets, cash or property if the item was used in the commission of a crime. So, for instance if your 16 year old son sells marihuana to his friends and then gets busted the police can seize your house because that is where the transactions occurred. It gets better because even if the charges are dismissed the forfeiture stands. Now the best part. If you attempt to get your items back you must work within the very system that seized your items in the first place. This does not even begin to get into issues such as warrantless searches by the government. That's a totally different area but does figure into your topic. We must be much more worried about our government apparatus trampling on our property right than some idea that socialism will lead to forfeiture of all personal wealth. I don't post much on this site so I'll take you answers off the air. This is one of the biggest reasons why the right to own firearms is crucial to a free society. When the citizens are armed, the government is afraid. --- "private property is theft, mmkay" - averagejoel <cite>Clad posted [p:882750725] in Are leftis... [t:75555545]...</cite> <quote><cite>lordofmud posted...</cite> <quote>I don't post here much but I will on this issue. Not sure where you are posting from. I'm in America so will talk about that only. I have to say that government seizure of private property is much more of a problem than the vague idea that in a socialist country you need to fear it be coming communist. In America it is legal for our government to seize assets, cash or property if the item was used in the commission of a crime. So, for instance if your 16 year old son sells marihuana to his friends and then gets busted the police can seize your house because that is where the transactions occurred. It gets better because even if the charges are dismissed the forfeiture stands. Now the best part. If you attempt to get your items back you must work within the very system that seized your items in the first place. This does not even begin to get into issues such as warrantless searches by the government. That's a totally different area but does figure into your topic. We must be much more worried about our government apparatus trampling on our property right than some idea that socialism will lead to forfeiture of all personal wealth. I don't post much on this site so I'll take you answers off the air.</quote> This is one of the biggest reasons why the right to own firearms is crucial to a free society. When the citizens are armed, the government is afraid.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
meralonne 07/11/17 10:07:05 PM #46:	NRA talking points 101 --- "Sigs are for dorks."-- my wife <cite>meralonne posted [p:882751199] in Are leftis... [t:75555545]...</cite> <quote>NRA talking points 101</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Clad 07/11/17 10:11:36 PM #47:	meralonne posted... NRA talking points 101 So you're against firearms and self defense rights? --- "private property is theft, mmkay" - averagejoel <cite>Clad posted [p:882751492] in Are leftis... [t:75555545]...</cite> <quote><cite>meralonne posted...</cite> <quote>NRA talking points 101</quote> So you're against firearms and self defense rights?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
meralonne 07/11/17 10:13:25 PM #48:	Clad posted... meralonne posted... NRA talking points 101 So you're against firearms and self defense rights? I own a firearm. I simply refuse to parrot the NRA. --- "Sigs are for dorks."-- my wife <cite>meralonne posted [p:882751587] in Are leftis... [t:75555545]...</cite> <quote><cite>Clad posted...</cite> <quote><cite>meralonne posted...</cite> <quote>NRA talking points 101</quote> So you're against firearms and self defense rights?</quote> I own a firearm. I simply refuse to parrot the NRA.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Clad 07/11/17 10:14:06 PM #49:	meralonne posted... Clad posted... meralonne posted... NRA talking points 101 So you're against firearms and self defense rights? I own a firearm. I simply refuse to parrot the NRA. What part of that was parroting the NRA? It's historically demonstrable and seems like a reasonable thing to say. Chalking it up to "NRA talking points" would be a convenient way to dismiss what you don't like, but that doesn't seem valid to me. --- "private property is theft, mmkay" - averagejoel <cite>Clad posted [p:882751636] in Are leftis... [t:75555545]...</cite> <quote><cite>meralonne posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Clad posted...</cite> <quote><cite>meralonne posted...</cite> <quote>NRA talking points 101</quote> So you're against firearms and self defense rights?</quote> I own a firearm. I simply refuse to parrot the NRA.</quote> What part of that was parroting the NRA? It's historically demonstrable and seems like a reasonable thing to say. Chalking it up to "NRA talking points" would be a convenient way to dismiss what you don't like, but that doesn't seem valid to me.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The23rdMagus 07/11/17 10:18:49 PM #50:	Mal_Fet posted... Question: Since there's nothing stopping people from running their business like a socialist system, and since socialism is such a winning concept for everyone involved, how come you never see any socialist/Marxist businesses anywhere? I think this would be the closest thing to it in a capitalist society: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Worker_cooperative --- ~Drewnami: The Drew abides.~ Gonads are useful for their purpose, but they are no substitute for brains. -Paul Harvey <cite>The23rdMagus posted [p:882751898] in Are leftis... [t:75555545]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote>Question: Since there's nothing stopping people from running their business like a socialist system, and since socialism is such a winning concept for everyone involved, how come you never see any socialist/Marxist businesses anywhere? </quote> I think this would be the closest thing to it in a capitalist society: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Worker_cooperative</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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