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Samurontai
07/12/17 5:13:52 PM
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Zero_Destroyer
07/12/17 5:14:02 PM
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HogRiderreturns posted...

Come on, we all know it is the woman's choice in the end.


No? It's the choice of both participants, assuming consent.
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HogRiderreturns
07/12/17 5:14:52 PM
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ChromaticAngel posted...
HogRiderreturns posted...
What a surprise, teen girls can't keep their legs closed.


that's not true. I mean you were a teenager once.

Yeah, and my state has the lowest rate of teen pregnancy.
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Samurontai
07/12/17 5:15:49 PM
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HogRiderreturns posted...
ChromaticAngel posted...
HogRiderreturns posted...
What a surprise, teen girls can't keep their legs closed.


that's not true. I mean you were a teenager once.

Yeah, and my state has the lowest rate of teen pregnancy.


Which state?
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TheVipaGTS
07/12/17 5:16:29 PM
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"No abortion! Please think of the innocent baby!....oh you need help providing for the baby? Fuck you. Why should we pay for your mistake!"
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Capn Circus
07/12/17 5:16:41 PM
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ChromaticAngel posted...
Medz2017 posted...
Condoms are easier to obtain than a smart phone


condoms suck. no one likes them. not even women like them.


Having a fetus ripped out of your body probably sucks more.
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HogRiderreturns
07/12/17 5:17:22 PM
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Zero_Destroyer posted...
HogRiderreturns posted...

Come on, we all know it is the woman's choice in the end.


No? It's the choice of both participants, assuming consent.

In the end the woman holds all the cards on if it will happen or not.
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Samurontai
07/12/17 5:17:27 PM
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Capn Circus posted...
ChromaticAngel posted...
Medz2017 posted...
Condoms are easier to obtain than a smart phone


condoms suck. no one likes them. not even women like them.


Having a fetus ripped out of your body probably sucks more.


Not really, being as it isn't ripped out
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HogRiderreturns
07/12/17 5:17:39 PM
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Samurontai posted...
HogRiderreturns posted...
ChromaticAngel posted...
HogRiderreturns posted...
What a surprise, teen girls can't keep their legs closed.


that's not true. I mean you were a teenager once.

Yeah, and my state has the lowest rate of teen pregnancy.


Which state?

New Hampshire.
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Samurontai
07/12/17 5:18:06 PM
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Axiom
07/12/17 5:19:44 PM
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For a party that's supposed to be against abortion they sure are doing a good job at increasing it
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Metua
07/12/17 5:22:05 PM
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Hey guys, let's abolish the police and tell people just not to commit crimes!
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TheVipaGTS
07/12/17 5:25:26 PM
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Also think about the areas this is happening in. Think of the smaller towns and communities being affected by this. Likely highly religious. Likely against proper sex ed. "Condoms are easy to get!"...you think a teen is just going to walk into a shop and buy condoms and risk the judgement, or even worse having someone they know see and having it get back to their families? I know in bigger areas it's not a big concern but in the smaller super religious areas it could be. Teens will be teens. Emotions and hormones will still exist. They'll still experiment. Cutting funding and acting like sex isn't a thing won't help.
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ChromaticAngel
07/12/17 5:39:34 PM
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TheVipaGTS posted...
Also think about the areas this is happening in. Think of the smaller towns and communities being affected by this. Likely highly religious. Likely against proper sex ed. "Condoms are easy to get!"...you think a teen is just going to walk into a shop and buy condoms and risk the judgement, or even worse having someone they know see and having it get back to their families? I know in bigger areas it's not a big concern but in the smaller super religious areas it could be. Teens will be teens. Emotions and hormones will still exist. They'll still experiment. Cutting funding and acting like sex isn't a thing won't help.


standard republican MO is to plug up their ears, cover their eyes, and scream that there are no problems except those caused by liberals.
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tiornys
07/12/17 5:41:06 PM
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HogRiderreturns posted...
Samurontai posted...
HogRiderreturns posted...
Yeah, and my state has the lowest rate of teen pregnancy.


Which state?

New Hampshire.

So, a state with multiple Planned Parenthood locations and a history of required comprehensive sex education has a low rate of teen pregnancy? Shocker!

Of course, with Republicans in power and already taking action to undo these things, expect to see this change over the coming years....
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HogRiderreturns
07/12/17 5:47:24 PM
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tiornys posted...
So, a state with multiple Planned Parenthood locations and a history of required comprehensive sex education has a low rate of teen pregnancy? Shocker!

What sex ed? They taught the very basics about the difference between a man and a woman. I don't remember them ever actually talking about sex itself.
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TheVipaGTS
07/12/17 6:00:18 PM
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HogRiderreturns posted...
tiornys posted...
So, a state with multiple Planned Parenthood locations and a history of required comprehensive sex education has a low rate of teen pregnancy? Shocker!

What sex ed? They taught the very basics about the difference between a man and a woman. I don't remember them ever actually talking about sex itself.

We learned about how to avoid stds and how to practice safe sex. They also taught us *gasp!*...how to properly use a condom!
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Lightsasori
07/12/17 6:08:51 PM
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tiornys posted...
HogRiderreturns posted...
Samurontai posted...
HogRiderreturns posted...
Yeah, and my state has the lowest rate of teen pregnancy.


Which state?

New Hampshire.

So, a state with multiple Planned Parenthood locations and a history of required comprehensive sex education has a low rate of teen pregnancy? Shocker!

Of course, with Republicans in power and already taking action to undo these things, expect to see this change over the coming years....


lol
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thronedfire2
07/12/17 6:12:28 PM
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Haha take that liberals!
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Marmitecashews
07/12/17 6:14:49 PM
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HogRiderreturns posted...
What a surprise, teen girls can't keep their legs closed or even make a guy wear a condom.

It takes two or more to have sex.
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muchdran
07/12/17 6:19:40 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
What people don't understand is that a lot of people who claim to be pro-life and anti-abortion don't actually believe the morals they claim to and are quite happy for teens to have abortions.

They just want to punish women who have sex as much as possible. And a lot of these people are other women.

It's weird but it's true.

So they see this as a win.

Spoken like a 17 year old virgin.
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HogRiderreturns
07/12/17 6:26:06 PM
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TheVipaGTS posted...
HogRiderreturns posted...
tiornys posted...
So, a state with multiple Planned Parenthood locations and a history of required comprehensive sex education has a low rate of teen pregnancy? Shocker!

What sex ed? They taught the very basics about the difference between a man and a woman. I don't remember them ever actually talking about sex itself.

We learned about how to avoid stds and how to practice safe sex. They also taught us *gasp!*...how to properly use a condom!

Well they didn't teach that in my sex ed.

Marmitecashews posted...
It takes two or more to have sex.

And in the end the woman is holding the cards on if it will actually happen or not. She can easily tell a guy to put a condom on or he isn't going to get laid.
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E32005
07/12/17 6:27:13 PM
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Axiom posted...
For a party that's supposed to be against abortion they sure are doing a good job at increasing it

That's the sad irony of the entire Republican Party
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gunplagirl
07/12/17 6:27:54 PM
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Lightsasori posted...
There's probably going to be a rise of back alley abortions as well.

And with it, deaths of the mother because they don't want to reveal what they did and risk prison.
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fan357
07/12/17 6:41:15 PM
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Republicans causing more abortions what a shocker.
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ColdOne666
07/12/17 7:17:42 PM
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Asherlee10 posted...
ColdOne666 posted...
Self responsibility. Why should the government be responsible for peoples poor decision making skills.


One of the reasons why a government is in place to help society progress. You help society progress by offering knowledge and programs to assist in that goal. People just don't inherently have all the knowledge they need to function in society. It's taught.

The Texas government has now just taken away both knowledge and readily available contraceptives.

EnterTheTekken posted...
While I don't agree with the de-funding, have we reached such lows that we need a family planning program center to tell people "semen + vagina = baby"?

Just...got damn, humans.


Yes, the details of how it works is absolutely needed for people. People do not inherently have all the knowledge they need.


Penis + vagina equals babies. Its not rocket science.
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Zero_Destroyer
07/12/17 7:20:17 PM
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ColdOne666 posted...


Penis + vagina equals babies. Its not rocket science.


Understanding how babies are made does not educate you on the scope of the financial consequences, nor does the most basic information prevent you from learning misinformation about sex if you aren't properly educated about it - hence a school should teach it, and schools in Texas are very prohibitive about teaching sex at all.
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ColdOne666
07/12/17 7:26:58 PM
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Is the US some redneck backwater swamp? What type of public school doesnt have sex ed, thats like the basics. Every school in Australia has it by default.
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chrono625
07/12/17 7:30:53 PM
#80:


ChromaticAngel posted...
Medz2017 posted...
Condoms are easier to obtain than a smart phone


condoms suck. no one likes them. not even women like them.


then don't bang.
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thronedfire2
07/12/17 7:30:56 PM
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Most kids hear about sex from other things before sex Ed too

In 8th grade we were going over definitions and when sperm came up the kid next to me was like 'oh that's cum?'
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hollow_shrine
07/12/17 7:31:53 PM
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Classic feelings over facts. Some of these things just can't be left to the judgment of individual states. PP saved them money, and doesn't even perform abortions and they traded it in for short-sighted political capital among a base that's already given then carte blanche.

Even in this topic people are deep in their moral judgment of teen pregnancy and blind to what actually benefits the state of Texas. Teen pregnancy is tragic and there are things we can do to discourage it, but we can't control it. We can take steps to mitigate its cost to society. That's what our state government should prioritize. But this has become political, just like climate change, and marriage equality, and the right of black people to vote in the sixties, and the right of women to vote in 1920....
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Alucard188
07/12/17 7:34:24 PM
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So, are these protest abortions?
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HogRiderreturns
07/12/17 7:34:24 PM
#84:


thronedfire2 posted...
Most kids hear about sex from other things before sex Ed too

In 8th grade we were going over definitions and when sperm came up the kid next to me was like 'oh that's cum?'

Yeah, in this digital age most kids are familiar with sex long before sex ed usually starts.
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hollow_shrine
07/12/17 7:40:34 PM
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Alucard188 posted...
So, are these protest abortions?

More like: 'oh shit I'm losing family planning support, maybe this baby should wait,' abortions.

'This is a bad time to be pregnant in Texas' abortions.
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Mal_Fet
07/12/17 7:41:38 PM
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The majority of what PP did was abortions.

They fudged the numbers by coubting every individual thing they did for an abortuon as a separte procedure. For instance, giving a woman anesthetic for the abortion would be counted equal to the actual abortion itself.

So even though they said abortion was only 3% of that they did, in actuality it was like 70-90% of everything they did.
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hollow_shrine
07/12/17 7:42:28 PM
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Mal_Fet posted...
The majority of what PP did was abortions.

They fudged the numbers by coubting every individual thing they did for an abortuon as a separte procedure. For instance, giving a woman anesthetic for the abortion would be counted equal to the actual abortion itself.

So even though they said abortion was only 3% of that they did, in actuality it was like 70-90% of everything they did.

Show the receipts or fuck off with this noise.
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Alucard188
07/12/17 7:43:51 PM
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hollow_shrine posted...
Alucard188 posted...
So, are these protest abortions?

More like: 'oh shit I'm losing family planning support, maybe this baby should wait,' abortions.

'This is a bad time to be pregnant in Texas' abortions.


Fair enough. I'm just curious where these abortions are coming from, considering that supposedly the big Boogeyman Planned Parenthood performed all of these heinous abortions and were selling the baby matter to labs and doctors and shit. Do they now sell home versions of the Planned Parenthood gameshow?
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Zero_Destroyer
07/12/17 7:46:14 PM
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ColdOne666 posted...
Is the US some redneck backwater swamp? What type of public school doesnt have sex ed, thats like the basics. Every school in Australia has it by default.


A large number of schools in the U.S. teach no Sex Ed at all.
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NinjaWarrior455
07/12/17 7:53:52 PM
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ColdOne666 posted...
Is the US some redneck backwater swamp? What type of public school doesnt have sex ed, thats like the basics. Every school in Australia has it by default.

Most school curriculums are created by and for each state, so if a state decides that it isn't necessary to teach sex ed, then the kids won't be learning about contraceptives or safe sex practices. As a result, there is a very large disparity between states in public education all around.
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ThePieReborn
07/12/17 7:57:19 PM
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Gosh, who could've seen this one coming.

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Lightsasori
07/12/17 8:13:17 PM
#92:


Mal_Fet posted...
The majority of what PP did was abortions.

They fudged the numbers by coubting every individual thing they did for an abortuon as a separte procedure. For instance, giving a woman anesthetic for the abortion would be counted equal to the actual abortion itself.

So even though they said abortion was only 3% of that they did, in actuality it was like 70-90% of everything they did.


Got a source for this?
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Disrespector
07/12/17 8:33:59 PM
#93:


conservatives are evil
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Romulox28
07/12/17 8:36:34 PM
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TheVipaGTS posted...
"No abortion! Please think of the innocent baby!....oh you need help providing for the baby? Fuck you. Why should we pay for your mistake!"

i think ultimately i am pro-choice but i am so sick of people making this stupid fucking statement all the time
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JohnLennon6
07/12/17 8:40:33 PM
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Disrespector posted...
conservatives are evil

Speak for yourself, many of the things liberals do scare the shit out of me.
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Tmaster148
07/12/17 8:41:06 PM
#96:


JohnLennon6 posted...
Disrespector posted...
conservatives are evil

Speak for yourself, many of the things liberals do scare the shit out of me.


I have a feeling you are scared of your own shadow.
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Samurontai
07/12/17 8:42:49 PM
#97:


Romulox28 posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
"No abortion! Please think of the innocent baby!....oh you need help providing for the baby? Fuck you. Why should we pay for your mistake!"

i think ultimately i am pro-choice but i am so sick of people making this stupid fucking statement all the time


Why? It's probably the most true statement you'll see on this board
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hockeybub89
07/12/17 8:42:58 PM
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Who could have possibly seen this coming?

Not the religious right obviously.
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masterpug53
07/12/17 8:52:48 PM
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Lightsasori posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
The majority of what PP did was abortions.

They fudged the numbers by coubting every individual thing they did for an abortuon as a separte procedure. For instance, giving a woman anesthetic for the abortion would be counted equal to the actual abortion itself.

So even though they said abortion was only 3% of that they did, in actuality it was like 70-90% of everything they did.


Got a source for this?


Considering how pungent and unsanitary the place he pulled it from is, I'd think twice about asking.
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Romulox28
07/12/17 8:56:50 PM
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Samurontai posted...
Romulox28 posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
"No abortion! Please think of the innocent baby!....oh you need help providing for the baby? Fuck you. Why should we pay for your mistake!"

i think ultimately i am pro-choice but i am so sick of people making this stupid fucking statement all the time


Why? It's probably the most true statement you'll see on this board

it's a ridiculous "gotcha" statement that makes very little sense when you think about it critically for a minute.

first of all the whole statement completely ignores WHY some people are against abortion, and it makes it seem as if social welfare & abortion are the exact same issue, which doesnt make sense because you can be for one and against the other, they're mutually exclusive.

then of course it carries this implication that if all republicans/pro-lifers/whatever are against abortion and therefore against social welfare, then the democrats/pro-choicers/etc are the free money for all party. sorry but i dont see any group of people proposing ideas to bankroll a child for his entire life, except maybe for some far left communists and proponents of a hardcore UBI.

finally it has what i'd consider this weird eugenics angle, where the implication is basically "hey man, if you guys aren't willing to pay the bill for these babies, then the best course of action is to just kill em all" which i find kind of disgusting tbh.
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