Current Events > teen abortions surge in texas after defunding Planned parenthood

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/texas-planned-parenthood-teen-abortion_us_59653229e4b09b587d63018a

gosh it's almost like the people who provide abortions don't actually want to do them and try to help people not become pregnant in the first place
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There's probably going to be a rise of back alley abortions as well.
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are you happy, Conservatives?
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Condoms are easier to obtain than a smart phone
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Deontological
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Medz2017 posted...

Condoms are easier to obtain than a smart phone

condoms suck. no one likes them. not even women like them.
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Republicans here have solutions that are antithetical to what they're attempting to accomplish. I agree with reducing the rate of abortions as much as possible, but:

A: Outlawing them doesn't get rid of them and leads to black market engorgement in the worst possible places (poor communities in the south.)

B: Defunding a family planning organization, whaddaya know, means that pregnancy rates increase, which will increase abortion rates the younger the pregnancies are.

Reality does not allow for a puritan mindset to coincide with lower rates of abortion, pregnancy, STDs, etc. A large number of states have demonstrated this by having high rates of pregnancies, abortions, & STDs in spite of strong abstinence policy.

Fuck Texas' legislature.
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Medz2017 posted...

Condoms are easier to obtain than a smart phone

PP hands them out for free
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Oh, and lmfao @ these politicians that support gutting safety nets while they institute policies that increase the number of unwanted pregnancies. It's engineering poverty.
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Zero_Destroyer posted...

A: Outlawing them doesn't get rid of them and leads to black market engorgement in the worst possible places (poor communities in the south.)

Ironic, seeing as how their argument against gun control is literally (partially) "They're gonna get guns even if we outlaw them, so why outlaw them?"

What people don't understand is that a lot of people who claim to be pro-life and anti-abortion don't actually believe the morals they claim to and are quite happy for teens to have abortions.

They just want to punish women who have sex as much as possible. And a lot of these people are other women.

It's weird but it's true.

So they see this as a win.
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Huffington Post is a garbage tier website
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Giant_Aspirin posted...

are you happy, Conservatives?

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Republicans are literally the dumbest of the dumb

Edit: thanks smartphone
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ColdOne666 posted...

Huffington Post is a garbage tier website

they're a better source than 90% of the fucking shit posted here.
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Zero_Destroyer posted...

Oh, and lmfao @ these politicians that support gutting safety nets while they institute policies that increase the number of unwanted pregnancies. It's engineering poverty.

The government isnt forcing girls to sleep around.
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ColdOne666 posted...

Huffington Post is a garbage tier website

Cry moar Mal alt
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ChromaticAngel posted...

ColdOne666 posted...

Huffington Post is a garbage tier website

they're a better source than 90% of the fucking shit posted here.

In what universe lol.
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ColdOne666 posted...

Zero_Destroyer posted...

Oh, and lmfao @ these politicians that support gutting safety nets while they institute policies that increase the number of unwanted pregnancies. It's engineering poverty.

The government isnt forcing girls to sleep around.

Nope, that would be human biology and hormones

You suggest we sterilize everyone?
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While I don't agree with the de-funding, have we reached such lows that we need a family planning program center to tell people "semen + vagina = baby"?

Just...got damn, humans.

EnterTheTekken posted...

While I don't agree with the de-funding, have we reached such lows that we need a family planning program center to tell people "semen + vagina = baby"?

Just...got damn, humans.

Well when republicans also want to teach kids abstinence only education and avoid talking about how sex works and how to do so safely. Yes.
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Samurontai posted...

ColdOne666 posted...

Zero_Destroyer posted...

Oh, and lmfao @ these politicians that support gutting safety nets while they institute policies that increase the number of unwanted pregnancies. It's engineering poverty.

The government isnt forcing girls to sleep around.

Nope, that would be human biology and hormones

You suggest we sterilize everyone?

Self responsibility. Why should the government be responsible for peoples poor decision making skills.
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EnterTheTekken posted...

While I don't agree with the de-funding, have we reached such lows that we need a family planning program center to tell people "semen + vagina = baby"?

Just...got damn, humans.

Sigless user logic
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ColdOne666 posted...

The government isnt forcing girls to sleep around.

Hard to counteract male & female biology. Let me explain the flaw with this.

1: You propose a solution - people stop having sex.

2: People do not conform to this standard due to human biology.

3: Your solution has failed.

4: Instituting policies that assume your solution has worked is now both illogical and immoral.

5: Try again, maybe accepting that people will not conform to your highly unrealistic standard - i.e., "teenagers won't have sex."
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ColdOne666 posted...

Self responsibility. Why should the government be responsible for peoples poor decision making skills

because PP is cheaper than imprisoning their poorly raised children when they grow up to slang rock and car jack people.
It's cheaper than SNAP.
It's cheaper than foster care and orphanages.

PP is a cost saving program ffs.
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It's almost like Planned Parenthood did a lot of good things, but these pro-life idiots just had to focus on the abortion part, and PP barely performed any. But since even one might have been carried out, PP needs to go away completely.

These pro-life idiots are completely incapable of seeing this issue in anything other than black and white.
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ColdOne666 posted...

Samurontai posted...

ColdOne666 posted...

Zero_Destroyer posted...

Oh, and lmfao @ these politicians that support gutting safety nets while they institute policies that increase the number of unwanted pregnancies. It's engineering poverty.

The government isnt forcing girls to sleep around.

Nope, that would be human biology and hormones

You suggest we sterilize everyone?

Self responsibility. Why should the government be responsible for peoples poor decision making skills.

I hope you also agree with dropping every single law in existence in the US as well
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UnfairRepresent posted...

What people don't understand is that a lot of people who claim to be pro-life and anti-abortion don't actually believe the morals they claim to and are quite happy for teens to have abortions.

They just want to punish women who have sex as much as possible.

ColdOne666 posted...

The government isnt forcing girls to sleep around.

Mmmhmm.

Tmaster148 posted...

EnterTheTekken posted...

While I don't agree with the de-funding, have we reached such lows that we need a family planning program center to tell people "semen + vagina = baby"?

Just...got damn, humans.

Well when republicans also want to teach kids abstinence only education and avoid talking about how sex works and how to do so safely. Yes.

What about Mom and Dad?

EnterTheTekken posted...

Tmaster148 posted...

EnterTheTekken posted...

While I don't agree with the de-funding, have we reached such lows that we need a family planning program center to tell people "semen + vagina = baby"?

Just...got damn, humans.

Well when republicans also want to teach kids abstinence only education and avoid talking about how sex works and how to do so safely. Yes.

What about Mom and Dad?

Mom and Dad usually have pretty poor education about sex as well. It's why less educated people tend to have more children. Also there's not always a mom or dad, or both.
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Asherlee10 posted...

EnterTheTekken posted...

Tmaster148 posted...

EnterTheTekken posted...

While I don't agree with the de-funding, have we reached such lows that we need a family planning program center to tell people "semen + vagina = baby"?

Just...got damn, humans.

Well when republicans also want to teach kids abstinence only education and avoid talking about how sex works and how to do so safely. Yes.

What about Mom and Dad?

What about them? Many parents would either:

a) Not teach their children accurate and valuable information
b) Teach their children abstinence based on their religious beliefs

Then we are back to square 1.

Also some parents might just avoid talking about the subject all together, because it's not a fun conversation to be having with your child. I don't recall ever having "the talk" with my parents.
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What a surprise, teen girls can't keep their legs closed or even make a guy wear a condom.
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HogRiderreturns posted...

What a surprise, teen girls can't keep their legs closed or even make a guy wear a condom.

Why are you singling out women? Men are required in the equation of P+V.
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HogRiderreturns posted...

What a surprise, teen girls can't keep their legs closed.

that's not true. I mean you were a teenager once.
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HogRiderreturns posted...

What a surprise, teen girls can't keep their legs closed or even make a guy wear a condom.

Okay Elliot Rogers
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The "ignore it. Don't teach them about. Don't teach them how to be safe" method is the dumbest thing ever. It's just sex people. Not porn. It's important to know about that stuff to avoid....well...this.

ColdOne666 posted...

Self responsibility. Why should the government be responsible for peoples poor decision making skills.

Let me spell this one out: There is always going to be areas in society where people make dumb mistakes. The problem with a hands-off attitude is that these kinds of mistakes increase the poverty rate in the United States - which is not an insular issue only affecting the person in question. It has the capacity to affect you if it gets bad enough.

People can't be trusted to make the correct decisions, so we provide goods and services where practical to those affected by poverty. It isn't really a common thought of the average American that:

"Hey, you had sex at the wrong time, so you should have your entire life upended."

...Which is the core issue, and PP helps prevent this from being the case by providing contraceptives so this never becomes an issue. But now, you have people wanting to defund them even though it demonstrably makes society worse - more unstable, more prone to unrest.

The fact that social safety nets are reduced on top of people being more vulnerable to financial traps at a very young age is just more fuel to the fire, and it's highly hypocritical coming from a party that claims to hold Christian values.

What passage of the Bible said "Go, my child, but if you have sex without a condom, may ye and your child be condemned to single montherhood at 16."?

It's just a blatant lie that these Republican politicians care about fetuses. They stop caring the moment any financial incentives have to be allocated towards the well being and development of the now-born child. Abortion is strictly an emotional pet issue for the Republican party to drudge up images in peoples' heads that compel them to vote based on emotion without analyzing how little the Republican party actually cares about children and their well being.
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Zero_Destroyer posted...

HogRiderreturns posted...

What a surprise, teen girls can't keep their legs closed or even make a guy wear a condom.

Why are you singling out women? Men are required in the equation of P+V.

Come on, we all know it is the woman's choice in the end.
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HogRiderreturns posted...

Zero_Destroyer posted...

HogRiderreturns posted...

What a surprise, teen girls can't keep their legs closed or even make a guy wear a condom.

Why are you singling out women? Men are required in the equation of P+V.

Come on, we all know it is the woman's choice in the end.

Uh

What
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