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Webmaster4531
07/13/17 9:24:14 PM
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I think so, I got warned once for asking the next logical step.

Anyways NT
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Howl
07/13/17 9:25:22 PM
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Why would calling an action what it is be moddable?
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Gojak_v3
07/13/17 9:25:42 PM
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This is a special snowflake topic if I've ever seen one. Millions of people disagree with abortion. Deal with it.
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Webmaster4531
07/13/17 9:32:05 PM
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Gojak_v3 posted...
This is a special snowflake topic if I've ever seen one. Millions of people disagree with abortion. Deal with it.

Mostly this is me complaining my moderation was bullshit but murderer is a serious thing to call vulnerable women and young girls.
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Howl
07/13/17 9:34:22 PM
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Webmaster4531 posted...
Gojak_v3 posted...
This is a special snowflake topic if I've ever seen one. Millions of people disagree with abortion. Deal with it.

Mostly this is me complaining my moderation was bullshit but murderer is a serious thing to call vulnerable women and young girls.

So older women who aren't vulnerable at all, have the means to care for a child in every way, but just doesn't want a baby and had an abortion would be justifiably called a murderer then?
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Jabodie
07/13/17 9:36:00 PM
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You can't mod somebody just for being dumb.
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YourDrunkFather
07/13/17 9:36:32 PM
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Abortion kills a baby. It's an objective fact weither people want to accept it or not
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Schwarber
07/13/17 9:36:44 PM
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Kaname_Madoka
07/13/17 9:36:48 PM
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Jabodie posted...
You can't mod somebody just for being dumb.

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Tadamoto15
07/13/17 9:42:09 PM
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No because that's what the fuck it is. I have no respect for women who kill their babies because they can't practice abstinence
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Webmaster4531
07/13/17 9:42:26 PM
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Howl posted...
Webmaster4531 posted...
Gojak_v3 posted...
This is a special snowflake topic if I've ever seen one. Millions of people disagree with abortion. Deal with it.

Mostly this is me complaining my moderation was bullshit but murderer is a serious thing to call vulnerable women and young girls.

So older women who aren't vulnerable at all, have the means to care for a child in every way, but just doesn't want a baby and had an abortion would be justifiably called a murderer then?

No. The vulnerability of the person just makes the act more offensive. The extreme would be calling a rape victim a murder.
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Tmaster148
07/13/17 9:43:39 PM
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Tadamoto15 posted...
No because that's what the fuck it is. I have no respect for women who kill their babies because they can't practice abstinence


You don't have respect for women period.
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JohnLennon6
07/13/17 9:44:40 PM
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You have to do a lot of mental gymnastics to come to the conclusion that it isn't murder.
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sktgamer_13dude
07/13/17 9:45:11 PM
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JohnLennon6 posted...
You have to do a lot of mental gymnastics to come to the conclusion that it is murder.

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Webmaster4531
07/13/17 9:45:55 PM
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It really sucks I can't mention what I got modded for. The lib cuckyness of the mods stop at this for some reason.
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DrizztLink
07/13/17 9:46:28 PM
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Howl posted...
Webmaster4531 posted...
Gojak_v3 posted...
This is a special snowflake topic if I've ever seen one. Millions of people disagree with abortion. Deal with it.

Mostly this is me complaining my moderation was bullshit but murderer is a serious thing to call vulnerable women and young girls.

So older women who aren't vulnerable at all, have the means to care for a child in every way, but just doesn't want a baby and had an abortion would be justifiably called a murderer then?

The Russian judge gives your mental contortionist routine a 3.
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Tadamoto15
07/13/17 9:46:55 PM
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Kaname_Madoka
07/13/17 9:47:45 PM
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Tadamoto15 posted...
Tmaster148 posted...
You don't have respect for women period.

True.

i mean they dont have respect for you, so
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sktgamer_13dude
07/13/17 9:48:12 PM
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Tadamoto15 posted...
Tmaster148 posted...
You don't have respect for women period.

True.

So your opinion on abortion is a joke then? Thanks for letting us know.
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Samurontai
07/13/17 9:48:15 PM
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Esrac
07/13/17 9:55:08 PM
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You can call it that, but until abortion is illegal, it's not murder. It's only murder when it's against the law.
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sktgamer_13dude
07/13/17 9:56:25 PM
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Esrac posted...
You can call it that, but until abortion is illegal, it's not murder. It's only murder when it's against the law.

It's legally not murder even if abortion is against the law.
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Esrac
07/13/17 10:01:54 PM
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sktgamer_13dude posted...
Esrac posted...
You can call it that, but until abortion is illegal, it's not murder. It's only murder when it's against the law.

It's legally not murder even if abortion is against the law.


I think that's debatable.

But do you have something specific in mind that I'm not aware of? It would almost certainly be considered a homicide.

Is there a technical term I'm missing?
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Dragonblade01
07/13/17 10:03:21 PM
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Not really, people say wrong things all the time. That doesn't mean it should moddable.
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Webmaster4531
07/13/17 10:12:19 PM
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Please note that what if scenarios still need to fall in line with site rules. The entire premise of this scenario is completely offensive.

I'm probably going to get in trouble. Calling them murders achieves the same implication but for some reason that's okay.

I'm probably going to post a lot of things that make no sense.
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sktgamer_13dude
07/13/17 10:18:44 PM
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Esrac posted...
sktgamer_13dude posted...
Esrac posted...
You can call it that, but until abortion is illegal, it's not murder. It's only murder when it's against the law.

It's legally not murder even if abortion is against the law.


I think that's debatable.

But do you have something specific in mind that I'm not aware of? It would almost certainly be considered a homicide.

Is there a technical term I'm missing?

Murder is a person killing another person with premeditation. That's the literal and legal definition.

A fetus isn't a person. A fetus can't survive without being attached to the mother in the womb.

Calling abortion "murder" or "homicide" is lazy rhetoric. Get a new argument.
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ColdOne666
07/13/17 10:20:11 PM
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Can we mod progressives who defend pedophiles?
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JohnLennon6
07/13/17 10:24:50 PM
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ColdOne666 posted...
Can we mod progressives who defend pedophiles?

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Kaname_Madoka
07/13/17 10:25:23 PM
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JohnLennon6 posted...
ColdOne666 posted...
Can we mod progressives who defend pedophiles?

yes
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sktgamer_13dude
07/13/17 10:25:52 PM
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JohnLennon6
07/13/17 10:26:38 PM
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sktgamer_13dude posted...
No one defends pedophiles rofl

Half the liberal trolls on this board?
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Webmaster4531
07/13/17 10:26:56 PM
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ColdOne666 posted...
Can we mod progressives who defend ?


They already do depending on context.
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sktgamer_13dude
07/13/17 10:28:38 PM
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JohnLennon6 posted...
sktgamer_13dude posted...
No one defends pedophiles rofl

Half the liberal trolls on this board?

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ThanksUglyGod
07/13/17 10:29:33 PM
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It shouldn't be moddable. It's not murder. But calling it murder shouldn't be moddable.
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Webmaster4531
07/13/17 10:30:18 PM
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ThanksUglyGod posted...
It shouldn't be moddable. It's not murder. But calling it murder shouldn't be moddable.

Why though?
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MelzezDoor
07/13/17 10:32:20 PM
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Schwarber posted...
it's not murder

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ColdOne666
07/13/17 10:35:44 PM
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sktgamer_13dude posted...
Esrac posted...
sktgamer_13dude posted...
Esrac posted...
You can call it that, but until abortion is illegal, it's not murder. It's only murder when it's against the law.

It's legally not murder even if abortion is against the law.


I think that's debatable.

But do you have something specific in mind that I'm not aware of? It would almost certainly be considered a homicide.

Is there a technical term I'm missing?

Murder is a person killing another person with premeditation. That's the literal and legal definition.

A fetus isn't a person. A fetus can't survive without being attached to the mother in the womb.

Calling abortion "murder" or "homicide" is lazy rhetoric. Get a new argument.


A 1 month old baby cant care for itself either.
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sktgamer_13dude
07/13/17 10:38:25 PM
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ColdOne666 posted...
sktgamer_13dude posted...
Esrac posted...
sktgamer_13dude posted...
Esrac posted...
You can call it that, but until abortion is illegal, it's not murder. It's only murder when it's against the law.

It's legally not murder even if abortion is against the law.


I think that's debatable.

But do you have something specific in mind that I'm not aware of? It would almost certainly be considered a homicide.

Is there a technical term I'm missing?

Murder is a person killing another person with premeditation. That's the literal and legal definition.

A fetus isn't a person. A fetus can't survive without being attached to the mother in the womb.

Calling abortion "murder" or "homicide" is lazy rhetoric. Get a new argument.


A 1 month old baby cant care for itself either.

A 1-month old baby doesn't need a cord attached to its stomach and a protective coating around its body to survive.
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Webmaster4531
07/13/17 11:53:30 PM
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That moderation is still on my account.
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Nomadic View
07/13/17 11:59:50 PM
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No, if anything the "offensive" moderations need to be toned way the fuck down.
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kingdrake2
07/14/17 12:00:34 AM
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Nomadic View posted...
No, if anything the "offensive" moderations need to be toned way the fuck down.


idk, kinda like when they go increased. more topics oh yes :(.
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Verdekal
07/14/17 12:04:11 AM
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Defending abortion should be moddable.
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Kaname_Madoka
07/14/17 12:18:37 AM
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Verdekal posted...
Defending abortion should be moddable.

lol
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Webmaster4531
07/14/17 12:19:03 AM
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Nomadic View posted...
No, if anything the "offensive" moderations need to be toned way the fuck down.

I kinda agree. My warning was pretty bullshit.
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hockeybub89
07/14/17 12:19:53 AM
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Gojak_v3 posted...
This is a special snowflake topic if I've ever seen one. Millions of people disagree with abortion. Deal with it.

Millions of people have been known to be wrong.
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ColdOne666
07/14/17 12:28:17 AM
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sktgamer_13dude posted...
ColdOne666 posted...
sktgamer_13dude posted...
Esrac posted...
sktgamer_13dude posted...
Esrac posted...
You can call it that, but until abortion is illegal, it's not murder. It's only murder when it's against the law.

It's legally not murder even if abortion is against the law.


I think that's debatable.

But do you have something specific in mind that I'm not aware of? It would almost certainly be considered a homicide.

Is there a technical term I'm missing?

Murder is a person killing another person with premeditation. That's the literal and legal definition.

A fetus isn't a person. A fetus can't survive without being attached to the mother in the womb.

Calling abortion "murder" or "homicide" is lazy rhetoric. Get a new argument.


A 1 month old baby cant care for itself either.

A 1-month old baby doesn't need a cord attached to its stomach and a protective coating around its body to survive.


So i can cut open a mother and kill the baby but its not murder because its still connected by the cord?

Lol the lefties have all gone insane.
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Webmaster4531
07/14/17 12:31:03 AM
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ColdOne666 posted...
So i can cut open a mother and kill the baby but its not murder because its still connected by the cord?

Lol the lefties have all gone insane.

Did you read what you just wrote? Sane isn't what I'd call it.
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Tmaster148
07/14/17 12:34:26 AM
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ColdOne666 posted...
So i can cut open a mother and kill the baby but its not murder because its still connected by the cord?

Lol the lefties have all gone insane.


Pretty sure you just committed battery in this scenario. Let's not forget that a trained medical doctor is one carrying out an operation to remove the unwanted fetus and not some random person on the street.
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Sinroth
07/14/17 12:36:22 AM
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JohnLennon6 posted...
You have to do a lot of mental gymnastics to come to the conclusion that it isn't murder.


sktgamer_13dude posted...
JohnLennon6 posted...
You have to do a lot of mental gymnastics to come to the conclusion that it is murder.


1) A zygote/embryo/foetus is a human being.
2) It is wrong to kill human beings.
3) Therefore, you should not kill zygotes/embryos/foetuses.

sktgamer_13dude posted...

A fetus isn't a person. A fetus can't survive without being attached to the mother in the womb.


A foetus is unequivocally a human being, so you must be appealing to some more abstract idea of "person", the defining feature of which is that it can survive on its own.

Are you saying that being physically dependent on someone for survival is what makes you a morally relevant human being? Because in varying degrees, we are all dependent on each other for survival. For example, a baby will die pretty quickly if you don't give them food, shelter, etc. A foetus will die even faster if you remove the umbilical cord. What's the difference, morally?

Are you saying that being viable in the here and now is what makes you a morally relevant human being? If so, then it's OK to kill people on life support. Such people are, like a foetus, kept alive only by having fluids and nutrients pumped into their bodies, and by strict medical observation. Yet if someone ran into a hospital and started willy-nilly disconnecting people on life support, we'd rightly consider their actions as murder.
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