Current Events > Quote me passages in the Quran that talks about war and jihad

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My best friends girl is Muslim and is playing the ignorance card
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So you don't want him with her? Why you gotta be like that?
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"Can I have uhhh Boneless pizza" ~The Prophet Muhammad, Quran 2:191
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What is your intent, op?

LordRazziel posted...

So you don't want him with her? Why you gotta be like that?

I do want her with him. I'm having a philosophical debate with her
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“When you meet the unbelievers, smite their necks.” 47:4
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glitteringfairy posted...

LordRazziel posted...

So you don't want him with her? Why you gotta be like that?

I do want her with him. I'm having a philosophical debate with her

She must be kicking your ass pretty soundly if you had to run to CE for material
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“Muhammad is the apostle of Allah. Those who follow Him are merciful to one another but harsh to the disbeliever.” 48:29
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"kill the infidels" - 67:1
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“They ask you about fighting during the sacred months. Tell them, fighting therein is a great sin but a greater sin is to prevent mankind from following the way of Allah, to disbelieve in him.” 2:217
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We've been friends for years. This isn't a malicious attack against her
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"Traps are gay" 12:25
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"Death by Snu Snu" Femputer 3:5
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"And on the 6th day, Allah said: 'thou shall suicide bomb all non-Muslims all day, everyday.'" - Mohammed 3:16
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Here's a tip, whatever passages CE gives you, read three or four to the front and back of that passage to understand a bit more of the context. It might save you from looking like a fool for saying the Quran advocates violence against all nonbelievers when the passages are talking about Muhammad and his followers fighting back against the pagans who were attacking them.
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They were all caught up in the need of their race to renew its scattered inheritance, to cross and mingle and infuse their bloodlines in a great new pooling of genes. And the race knew only one sure way for this—the ancient way, the tried and certain way that rolled over everything in its path: jihad. (22.198)

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DirkDiggles posted...

"Death by Snu Snu" Femputer 3:5

Great post
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I need more. This isn't proving my point
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irony
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Maybe you should do some research.
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UnholyMudcrab posted...

Here's a tip, whatever passages CE gives you, read three or four to the front and back of that passage to understand a bit more of the context. It might save you from looking like a fool for saying the Quran advocates violence against all nonbelievers when the passages are talking about Muhammad and his followers fighting back against the pagans who were attacking them.

Try going to Iraq or Syria and telling them that. I'm sure they'll agree with yer interpretation...
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glitteringfairy posted...

I need more. This isn't proving my point

You know, you really shouldn't be making arguments that you aren't prepared to defend.
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Gojak_v3 posted...

UnholyMudcrab posted...

Here's a tip, whatever passages CE gives you, read three or four to the front and back of that passage to understand a bit more of the context. It might save you from looking like a fool for saying the Quran advocates violence against all nonbelievers when the passages are talking about Muhammad and his followers fighting back against the pagans who were attacking them.

Try going to Iraq or Syria and telling them that. I'm sure they'll agree with yer interpretation...

do you think his friends gf lives in iraq or syria
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Gojak_v3 posted...

UnholyMudcrab posted...

Here's a tip, whatever passages CE gives you, read three or four to the front and back of that passage to understand a bit more of the context. It might save you from looking like a fool for saying the Quran advocates violence against all nonbelievers when the passages are talking about Muhammad and his followers fighting back against the pagans who were attacking them.

Try going to Iraq or Syria and telling them that. I'm sure they'll agree with yer interpretation...

Maybe you shouldn't let extremists sway you to hating Muslims.
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So the Quran doesn't advocate murder?
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glitteringfairy posted...

So the Quran doesn't advocate murder?

Every religion, besides maybe Buddhism and Jainism, advocates murder of some kind

What's your point?
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sktgamer_13dude posted...

Maybe you shouldn't let extremists sway you to hating Muslims.

Yep it's just extremists...
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Gojak_v3 posted...

sktgamer_13dude posted...

Maybe you shouldn't let extremists sway you to hating Muslims.

Yep it's just extremists...

Do you also agree that Trumps favorability rating is currently in the high 30's low 40's percentile?
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Gojak_v3 posted...

sktgamer_13dude posted...

Maybe you shouldn't let extremists sway you to hating Muslims.

Yep it's just extremists...

I highly doubt you actually know what Sharia Law actually is, so lol you.
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sktgamer_13dude posted...

Gojak_v3 posted...

sktgamer_13dude posted...

Maybe you shouldn't let extremists sway you to hating Muslims.

Yep it's just extremists...

I highly doubt you actually know what Sharia Law actually is, so lol you.

You say that as if his ignorance will mean it is actually a good thing. It is not.
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pics of girl
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"He who hath smelt it, hath dealt it" 98:3
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Bam.

https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/violence.aspx
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MARKINGRAM22 posted...

sktgamer_13dude posted...

Gojak_v3 posted...

sktgamer_13dude posted...

Maybe you shouldn't let extremists sway you to hating Muslims.

Yep it's just extremists...

I highly doubt you actually know what Sharia Law actually is, so lol you.

You say that as if his ignorance will mean it is actually a good thing. It is not.

Sharia Law is only bad when extremists are guiding it.
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Stay away from politics and stick to deedin'
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sktgamer_13dude posted...

MARKINGRAM22 posted...

sktgamer_13dude posted...

Gojak_v3 posted...

sktgamer_13dude posted...

Maybe you shouldn't let extremists sway you to hating Muslims.

Yep it's just extremists...

I highly doubt you actually know what Sharia Law actually is, so lol you.

You say that as if his ignorance will mean it is actually a good thing. It is not.

Sharia Law is only bad when extremists are guiding it.

No it is just bad. Religious law in general is bad...this is particularly bad religious law and 1 minutes of research will prove that beyond any doubt.
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UnholyMudcrab posted...

Here's a tip, whatever passages CE gives you, read three or four to the front and back of that passage to understand a bit more of the context. It might save you from looking like a fool for saying the Quran advocates violence against all nonbelievers when the passages are talking about Muhammad and his followers fighting back against the pagans who were attacking them.

Like when muhammad fought back against the tribe of jews that didn't come to his aid. Or when he fought back against people who fled his invasion by promising them a peace treaty and then slaughtering them when they left their fort, or like when he raided farming villages and killed all the men in "defense". What you're suggesting is pointless, because islamic apologetics has defined every single aggressive action as some form of "defense" either of actual aggression, potential aggression, perceived aggression or simply out of offense. Muhammad started with nothing and ended with an empire. Claiming he got that empire exclusively through defensive actions is insane.

Unless of course you're a pagan, at which point Islam pretty clearly flat out states they need to die.

Also, keep in mind that the islamic "revelations" cannot occur until the entire world is muslim, so conversion by force if necessary is a condition to the end of mortality.
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s0nicfan posted...

UnholyMudcrab posted...

Here's a tip, whatever passages CE gives you, read three or four to the front and back of that passage to understand a bit more of the context. It might save you from looking like a fool for saying the Quran advocates violence against all nonbelievers when the passages are talking about Muhammad and his followers fighting back against the pagans who were attacking them.

Like when muhammad fought back against the tribe of jews that didn't come to his aid. Or when he fought back against people who fled his invasion by promising them a peace treaty and then slaughtering them when they left their fort, or like when he raided farming villages and killed all the men in "defense". What you're suggesting is pointless, because islamic apologetics has defined every single aggressive action as some form of "defense" either of actual aggression, potential aggression, perceived aggression or simply out of offense. Muhammad started with nothing and ended with an empire. Claiming he got that empire exclusively through defensive actions is insane.

Unless of course you're a pagan, at which point Islam pretty clearly flat out states they need to die.

Also, keep in mind that the islamic "revelations" cannot occur until the entire world is muslim, so conversion by force if necessary is a condition to the end of mortality.

It's a good thing the vast majority of Muslims in the world aren't extremist who follow every single portion of the Quran then
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Samurontai posted...

It's a good thing the vast majority of Muslims in the world aren't extremist who follow every single portion of the Quran then

Topic is about the Quran though, not about the Muslims
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Samurontai posted...

s0nicfan posted...

UnholyMudcrab posted...

Here's a tip, whatever passages CE gives you, read three or four to the front and back of that passage to understand a bit more of the context. It might save you from looking like a fool for saying the Quran advocates violence against all nonbelievers when the passages are talking about Muhammad and his followers fighting back against the pagans who were attacking them.

Like when muhammad fought back against the tribe of jews that didn't come to his aid. Or when he fought back against people who fled his invasion by promising them a peace treaty and then slaughtering them when they left their fort, or like when he raided farming villages and killed all the men in "defense". What you're suggesting is pointless, because islamic apologetics has defined every single aggressive action as some form of "defense" either of actual aggression, potential aggression, perceived aggression or simply out of offense. Muhammad started with nothing and ended with an empire. Claiming he got that empire exclusively through defensive actions is insane.

Unless of course you're a pagan, at which point Islam pretty clearly flat out states they need to die.

Also, keep in mind that the islamic "revelations" cannot occur until the entire world is muslim, so conversion by force if necessary is a condition to the end of mortality.

It's a good thing the vast majority of Muslims in the world aren't extremist who follow every single portion of the Quran then

That's completely unrelated to the point I was refuting, which is that "context" nullifies all violent actions in the quran. If your argument is "yea, but people don't follow it" that's a different argument entirely, but it begin with the acknowledgement that the violence exists in the first place.
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Malfurion posted...

Samurontai posted...

It's a good thing the vast majority of Muslims in the world aren't extremist who follow every single portion of the Quran then

Topic is about the Quran though, not about the Muslims

Nope, the topic is about TC wanting his friend to leave his Muslim girlfriend
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s0nicfan posted...

Samurontai posted...

s0nicfan posted...

UnholyMudcrab posted...

Here's a tip, whatever passages CE gives you, read three or four to the front and back of that passage to understand a bit more of the context. It might save you from looking like a fool for saying the Quran advocates violence against all nonbelievers when the passages are talking about Muhammad and his followers fighting back against the pagans who were attacking them.

Like when muhammad fought back against the tribe of jews that didn't come to his aid. Or when he fought back against people who fled his invasion by promising them a peace treaty and then slaughtering them when they left their fort, or like when he raided farming villages and killed all the men in "defense". What you're suggesting is pointless, because islamic apologetics has defined every single aggressive action as some form of "defense" either of actual aggression, potential aggression, perceived aggression or simply out of offense. Muhammad started with nothing and ended with an empire. Claiming he got that empire exclusively through defensive actions is insane.

Unless of course you're a pagan, at which point Islam pretty clearly flat out states they need to die.

Also, keep in mind that the islamic "revelations" cannot occur until the entire world is muslim, so conversion by force if necessary is a condition to the end of mortality.

It's a good thing the vast majority of Muslims in the world aren't extremist who follow every single portion of the Quran then

That's completely unrelated to the point I was refuting, which is that "context" nullifies all violent actions in the quran. If your argument is "yea, but people don't follow it" that's a different argument entirely, but it begin with the acknowledgement that the violence exists in the first place.

Ah, I was too caught up in what TC was implying the topic was about

I actually completely agree that the Quran is probably the most violent religious texts out there, my bad
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Samurontai posted...

Ah, I was too caught up in what TC was implying the topic was about

I actually completely agree that the Quran is probably the most violent religious texts out there, my bad

No problem

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glitteringfairy posted...

My best friends girl is Muslim and is playing the ignorance card

Read the fucking Quran yourself.

Want to talk shit about Islam? Then do your own fucking homework.
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MARKINGRAM22 posted...

sktgamer_13dude posted...

MARKINGRAM22 posted...

sktgamer_13dude posted...

Gojak_v3 posted...

sktgamer_13dude posted...

Maybe you shouldn't let extremists sway you to hating Muslims.

Yep it's just extremists...

I highly doubt you actually know what Sharia Law actually is, so lol you.

You say that as if his ignorance will mean it is actually a good thing. It is not.

Sharia Law is only bad when extremists are guiding it.

No it is just bad. Religious law in general is bad...this is particularly bad religious law and 1 minutes of research will prove that beyond any doubt.

That's your shitty opinion.

Especially laughable considering Christians have been pushing their religious beliefs in the US for centuries. "God said gays can't marry so we can't legalize gay marriage."
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sktgamer_13dude posted...

That's your shitty opinion.

Especially laughable considering Christians have been pushing their religious beliefs in the US for centuries. "God said gays can't marry so we can't legalize gay marriage."

"Saying religious law is bad is a shitty opinion. Let me follow up with an example of bad religious law"
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s0nicfan posted...

sktgamer_13dude posted...

That's your shitty opinion.

Especially laughable considering Christians have been pushing their religious beliefs in the US for centuries. "God said gays can't marry so we can't legalize gay marriage."

"Saying religious law is bad is a shitty opinion. Let me follow up with an example of bad religious law"

But conservatives aren't upset with that form of religious law because it backs their shit opinions.

I'm sorry I'm not a hypocrite.
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sktgamer_13dude posted...

s0nicfan posted...

sktgamer_13dude posted...

That's your shitty opinion.

Especially laughable considering Christians have been pushing their religious beliefs in the US for centuries. "God said gays can't marry so we can't legalize gay marriage."

"Saying religious law is bad is a shitty opinion. Let me follow up with an example of bad religious law"

But conservatives aren't upset with that form of religious law because it backs their shit opinions.

I'm sorry I'm not a hypocrite.

If conservatives are hypocrites, that's because both are bad but they're only pretending one is (by definition of hypocrisy). SO... even given your statement, you're STILL acknowledging that religious law of any kind is bad.
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Conservatives hate Sharia Law because Muslims. If Christians practiced Sharia Law, they'd love it. Therefore; hypocrites.

Stop hating on a thing because other people partake in it. Sharia Law isn't necessarily a bad thing; extremists which shape it into something horrible is. Conservatives believe that extremist Sharia Law is the only Sharia Law out there.

I literally do not understand why you have an issue with this.

oh wait it's cause Trump told you it's bad
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