Board 8 > ~CHESS!~ Grigori Jaesa Flynn Haseo vs. Raiden Turok Armstrong Ellie

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Mewtwo59
07/16/17 2:57:06 PM
#101:


Considering Raiden can see enemies weak spots when they're stunned, I'm pretty sure he can. That's how he eventually beat Armstrong. Stunned him long enough that he could attack Armstrong's weak spot. Besides, Raiden can just run up to Haseo and blade mode him. It's basically bullet time, so if one slash at the weak spot doesn't kill him, Raiden can just keep slashing at it before Haseo can react.
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GANON1025
07/16/17 2:59:53 PM
#102:


Haseo has no weaknesses
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Mewtwo59
07/16/17 3:03:50 PM
#103:


And just to give you an example of how good blade mode is, Raiden can slice through chunks of Excelsus in blade mode. Ripper mode gives him his blade mode strength in his normal attacks. Jaesa isn't the only one here with a ridiculous cutting ability. Add in Raiden's better skill and nobody here can match him.
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DoomTheGyarados
07/16/17 3:06:06 PM
#104:


Raiden is great but the other side has massive buffs that even the scales.
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Mewtwo59
07/16/17 3:06:06 PM
#105:


I'm pretty sure he wouldn't like it if you beheaded him. Unless you want to argue his neck is stronger than a chunk of armored vehicles or a chunk of Excelsus, I think that's a very good weak point to strike.
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GANON1025
07/16/17 3:06:21 PM
#106:


It's that I may have not noticed Raiden has unlimited Ripper Mode. Yeah that'll do some great damage here. The only thing I can think of is that Raiden's Jack personality might make him not fight the sleeping enemy first.
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Mewtwo59
07/16/17 3:10:33 PM
#107:


Jaesa doesn't have those buffs, though. She's far below Raiden's skill level. She isn't Revan, she's just a padawan. Saying she can match Raiden is just silly.
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StealThisSheen
07/16/17 3:11:04 PM
#108:


Mewtwo59 posted...
DoomTheGyarados posted...
Frankly if Armstrong starts within 2 feet of Jaesa he is fucking dead <_<.


Raiden is one of 2% of people who can kill without hesitation. He's also embraced his Jack the Ripper personality. Can you say the same about Jaesa? Seeing how you can turn her back to the light, I'm going to wager no. Any hesitation against Raiden, and she's dead.


Can I nominate this for worst argument in Mercs
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DoomTheGyarados
07/16/17 3:27:35 PM
#109:


She doesn't have to match Raiden really but her force powers offer something a bit different from the norm. I mean I already said she isn't Revan (otherwise she solos your side tbh) but she can present some issues for him and with Grigori in the way and apparently no one actually going for Flynn according to your own arguments then he has time to cast buffs/heals/damage and since you effectively only have 3 people I think if Raiden goes for Haseo it will wake him up and he will be buffed and then healed by Flynn.
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Alany
07/16/17 3:34:39 PM
#110:


Grigori.
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Mewtwo59
07/16/17 3:37:12 PM
#111:


Grigori is actually big enough that the Arisen can just walk under him. He's not getting in anyone's way. And someone will be going for Flynn. You only effectively have 2 people, so I don't know how Flynn is going unchecked.

I don't see how Haseo is going to survive being beheaded, so Raiden can dispatch him pretty easily. Flynn can't heal that.
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DoomTheGyarados
07/16/17 3:39:14 PM
#112:


I only have effectively 2 people when apparently Haseo is a target and you say Armstrong might chuck the dragon he might not make up your mind.

Basically you're just saying a lot of words and hoping something sticks.
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Mewtwo59
07/16/17 3:48:08 PM
#113:


Yes, you only have 2 people unless you can show that Haseo can survive a beheading. Why would Raiden attack him if he's not going to be completely sure he's going to die?

Yes, Armstrong chucks the dragon at your team, and it's gonna be a bad time. When he throws chunks of Excelsus at Raiden, it's a one hit KO. On someone as durable as Raiden. Throwing the dragon at your team is going to take them out.
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Arti
07/16/17 4:42:24 PM
#114:


Team Unlimited Ripper Mode Raiden

Unbuffed Jaesa + 2.25x Flynn vs. four guys is a very bad matchup for the former team. The tea with four will know not to wake up Haseo or let the other team kill the totem, so they dispatch those two easily, behead Haseo and then take down the unmoving Grigori. Pretty simple.
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StealThisSheen
07/16/17 5:11:26 PM
#115:


I can't vote because I fully believed Mewtwo's team wins, but his arguments are so utterly terrible and inconsistent that it's making me want to vote for Chris.

So I just have to abstain.

Sometimes less is more, dude.
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DoomTheGyarados
07/16/17 5:21:20 PM
#116:


I will take the moral victory of at least I argued well!
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Corrik
07/16/17 6:43:43 PM
#117:


I dont think the big dragon can play chess optimally. So the other team wins.
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Corrik
07/16/17 6:48:14 PM
#118:


The first team would utterly obliterate the raiden team if not for it being a chess match tho. Oh well
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DoomTheGyarados
07/16/17 6:54:12 PM
#119:


I demand a proper title rematch tbqh
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Eddv
07/16/17 7:05:31 PM
#120:


I think the title got yo more eyeballs
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DoomTheGyarados
07/16/17 7:06:29 PM
#121:


I was joking.
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