Board 8 > ~FIGHT!~ Bossman Coolguy's Kingpins vs. Kaziklu Bey

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KanzarisKelshen
07/15/17 9:06:17 PM
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Eleonora Yumizuru, Agnes Oblige, Y'shtola, Flynn, Kefka, Sorey, the Four Seraphim, Shadow Mewtwo, Terra Branford, Shulk, Dante and the Agents have challenged Kaziklu Bey to a fight! Location of the fight: Suwahara City - a bustling tourist town, including an extremely high sightseeing tower and an amusement park. Fighters will start at opposite ends of Suwahara City Park, but the whole city is accessible, and no other characters are present. Which side will win?

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- The members of each team are ideal teammates capable of a pre-selected plan of battle.
- "Broken" refers to a lot of things, including insta-death, auto-effects, a variety of status effects (e.g., Imp, Silence, Stop, *not* Poison), and revival. Unless stated otherwise, nobody has them, though do use your own discretion.
- There may be SPOILERS from all of the games the characters are from.

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Agnès Oblige is as she appears in Bravely Default, in the Time Mage job with access to all of its support skills (even if slots do not permit, though she does not necessarily have to use all of them) and its specialty. She has her best non-broken equipment and the additional skillset of Performer. She may freely Brave and Default in battle, but may not use Bravely Second.

Ellie is as she appears in the endgame of Tokyo Mirage Sessions #FE, equipped with the Pinaka and a Godly Emblem, with all Radiant skills other than Endless Act and Endless Song, and no Extra skills. Virion is an Assassin with the Command skills Grand Tack, Myriad Arrows, Thunder Strike, Inferno Strike, Overload, Power Charge and Stealth, as well as the Passive skills Bow Expertise EX, Elec Expertise, Fire Expertise, Absorb Elec, Shura's Soul, Dodge Feather and Pierce.

Y'shtola Rhul is as seen in Final Fantasy XIV: Heavensward, with all the skills and traits of a Level 60 White Mage, including Raise. She also has the cross-class skills of Arcanist and Thaumaturge, and her Bravery/HP attacks from Dissidia. She cannot use Flow or Repose.

Terra is as she appears in Dissidia and at the end of FF6A, equipped with full Genji armour, Apocalypse, a Hero Ring, and a Gold Hairpin. She has all her natural magic, as well as those gained from Unicorn and Bahamut, including Raise. She does not, however, have Arise, Teleport, Break, Graviga, or Meltdown. She can enter Trance form at any time for 30 seconds (which also grants her access to EX mode), although it will go on cooldown for 2 minutes upon ending.
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KanzarisKelshen
07/15/17 9:06:29 PM
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Flynn is as he appears by the end of Shin Megami Tensei IV, equipped with only the Plasma Sword, Plasma Gun, Almighty Rounds, White King armor set, and Hero Earrings. The only skills he has are all -dyne level elemental spells, Luster Candy, Spiritual Focus, Great Logos and Salvation. The only apps he has are MP Recovery 2 and Auto-Pinpoint, and he cannot summon.

Sorey is as he appears in Tales of Zestiria, with all orbs and talismans (though they buff only himself and his seraphim) and an endgame skill build. He enters the battle with 5 Blast Gauges and may armatize freely with his seraphim, Dante and Kefka during the course of the battle, but armatization cannot be used to revive anyone. He does not have access to Siegfried.

Lailah, Mikleo, Edna and Dezel are accompanying Sorey into battle. They are as they appear in Tales of Zestiria, with an endgame skill build. They will enter battle with 5 Blast Gauges, and will be permanently invisible and inaudible to Flynn, The Agents, Shadow Mewtwo, Shulk, Y'shtola, Agnes and Ellie. Only one Seraph may be on the battlefield at a time, with Lailah beginning on the battlefield, and the others dwelling inside him. He may swap between them as seen in the game, and inactive seraphim will heal gradually over time, including from death, but they are considered defeated once Sorey is killed.

Kefka is as he appears in FF6A in the last battle, having access to all attacks and skills from the fight aside from Trine and Heartless Angel. He additionally has all his Brave and HP attacks from Dissidia: Final Fantasy, as well as the Exhilarating Magic skill. All of his weapons have been enchanted with divine power.

Shadow Mewtwo is as he appears in his boss form in Pokken Tournament, with all of his moves as well as those of regular Mewtwo in Pokken Tournament and capable of Synergy Burst on his own. He also has the moves Sunny Day, Solar Beam, Psychic and Recover from Pokemon X & Y.

Dante is as he appears in Devil May Cry 4, though he does not have his canon regen. He also has all of his weapons from Devil May Cry 3. He may access Devil Trigger, Quicksilver Style, and Doppelganger Style for up to 10 seconds each, every 5 minutes, and he may overlap their durations. He does not have access to Kalina Ann or Yamato. All of his weapons have been enchanted with divine power.

The Agents are how they appear in Crackdown 2, with maxed out stats. They have all of their weapons from Crackdown 2. There are two agents acting together as a team, and have brought an Agency SUV with them.

Shulk is as he appears in Xenoblade Chronicles, with all arts and skill trees learned and fully upgraded. He is equipped with the Monado II and Glory set of armour. Shulk also has access to his Super Smash Bros 4. version of Monado Arts, though they only affect him and have their drawbacks as well.

~VS~

Wilhelm Ehrenburg, AKA Kaziklu Bey, is as he appears in Dies Irae: Amantes Amentes. He may not exceed the Yetzirah degree, but has access to all abilities and feats demonstrated at that level of power or lower.

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Dantezoid
07/15/17 9:07:58 PM
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Can anyone stop the agents from driving straight up the tower??????
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KanzarisKelshen
07/15/17 9:10:43 PM
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@greengravy294

The floor is yours.
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greengravy294
07/15/17 10:15:07 PM
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alright so shulk has visions AND can damage kazilku bey

i guess.

everyone else besides dante and shulk get dunked on bad
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Arti
07/15/17 10:19:21 PM
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who
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HeroicGammaRay
07/15/17 10:28:48 PM
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high-level magic should be able to damage bey and yetzirah only is a huge nerf

also all of dante's weapons are actually the souls of demons or something right - they should get credit as ahnenerbes imo

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greengravy294
07/15/17 10:30:28 PM
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i asked Dante Lore Guru lopen and he didnt tell me if dante's demon weaponz have soul cred

if he does then he prob can damage him
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KanzarisKelshen
07/15/17 10:30:39 PM
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Arti posted...
who


Argument in a bit, was busy eating
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Ytterbicide
07/15/17 11:24:07 PM
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so uh

I guess I'll leave this stuff here here: http://vsbattles.wikia.com/wiki/Wilhelm_Ehrenburg
http://fictionalcharacterbattles.wikia.com/wiki/Reinhard_Heydrich

I'll comb through my sources on this guy on the earlier end of tomorrow. Initially think he's good enough for a kill or two but I'm not sure he can take the 11-streak
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Lopen
07/15/17 11:25:34 PM
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Dante's weapons are the souls of demons he's killed yeah

I'm pretty sure I was not asked that!
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Johnbobb
07/15/17 11:27:28 PM
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so many entire team v. 1 person matches this week
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Johnbobb
07/15/17 11:31:42 PM
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Johnbobb posted...
Anyone got a link to some good video of what all Kaziklu Bey does?

When I look all I get is OSTs

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KanzarisKelshen
07/16/17 12:00:41 AM
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I'm working on a manually compiled hype package. Gimme twenty, I have to take pics of this myself.
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MasaomiHouzuki
07/16/17 12:03:01 AM
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So basic attributes, small spoilers:

Casually bats away Desert Eagle shots, gets shot straight in the eye at one point and it doesn't even scratch him.

Easily kills a... squad of at least like 20 people when he lost all of his defensive capabilities and all of them were fairly competent mage people with guns and stuff.

Can cause of blood stakes to shoot from his body while in Yetzirah state, whatever it hits gets its life drained. Those things can casually pulverize stuff like vending machines and go through them with only a bit of destructive power loss.

Defensive capability is determined by the quantity and quality of souls that he consumes (where quality is derived from the... I think basically the size of DETERMINATION and FEROCITY in the person), I don't have the number in front of me, but I think he's got around like 30k souls of PURE ARYAN WARRIORS and probably like several thousand more random soldiers from various wars in between. In terms of stated strength, he straight up was unscathed by air raid bombings on him. It's postulated that you'd basically need a nuke to kill someone at his level, but there's no real evidence supporting this.

Despite his bloodthirsty nature he's still a predator, it wouldn't be surprising if he plays a "pick off people one by one" strategy, since he loves 1v1s and hates people interrupting his fights.

I think the best chance of beating him is high end magic
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OlDirtyNumbers
07/16/17 12:08:20 AM
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MasaomiHouzuki posted...
(where quality is derived from the... I think basically the size of DETERMINATION


wow, undertale mc could actually be useful for something
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KJH
07/16/17 12:16:42 AM
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Shulk because Shulk+Dante+Shadow Mewtwo+Flynn should be enough magical stuff + buffs + people.
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KanzarisKelshen
07/16/17 12:30:12 AM
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KJH posted...
Shulk because Shulk+Dante+Shadow Mewtwo+Flynn should be enough magical stuff + buffs + people.


So nice of you to vote before you even know who the opponent is.

Anyway, I finally have everything I need to expect an effortpost in five mins.
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KJH
07/16/17 12:33:50 AM
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I mean there's like 4 posts explaining things on him already.
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KanzarisKelshen
07/16/17 12:37:25 AM
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So. Wilhelm Ehrenburg is the big boss here, also known as Kaziklu Bey. An immortal Nazi from the VN Dies Irae (which is on Steam and a large chunk of it is free for you to try out - do it!), he's cunning, ruthless, incredibly vicious and absolutely not to be fucked with. I've picked a set of images that should sell him well:

http://imgur.com/a/Z5oUQ

Parsing the above in brief:

-He's anywhere between something like 160 to 260 kilometers per hour fast, and can easily keep up with people more than double that speed.
-His stakes can instantly drain the life out of anything they hit cleanly, and even mild grazes can deal immense soulfucking pain. Also, they're invisible unless you have unbelievable supernatural senses, and he can fire scores of them out at any given time, faster than the eye can see.
-Completely immune to conventional weaponry, pretty much. Enough so that neither being frozen solid with liquid nitrogen and then smashed with a full speed motorcycle nor bombing raids were enough to kill him...or faze him.
-His VOICE can break pavement and streetlights. If Kefka and him get into a laughing contest, the clown's fucked.
-Once he actually gets serious and goes to Yetzirah degree, his very presence disintegrates things that get close, mostly. This means bye Shulk, bye Mewtwo and Agents, maybe bye Sorey and Terra.

All in all, a simple fact emerges: Outside of Terra, Kefka and MAYBE Dante, nobody can hurt him here. He's gonna lay waste to the two mages, kill Y'shtola so she doesn't revive them after they try to come back once, and then fight Dante and crush him because his hax is massive. And that'll be that.
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KanzarisKelshen
07/16/17 12:38:08 AM
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KJH posted...
I mean there's like 4 posts explaining things on him already.


Never trust anything less than direct quotes from the source. I specialize in that.
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KJH
07/16/17 12:56:22 AM
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I doubt Shulk or his allies disintegrate given Monado Shield, along with the fact that he probably doesn't keep the aura up if Shulk purges it.
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KanzarisKelshen
07/16/17 1:01:34 AM
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KJH posted...
I doubt Shulk or his allies disintegrate given Monado Shield, along with the fact that he probably doesn't keep the aura up if Shulk purges it.


That implies Shulk can tag him once he gets serious. That's very iffy all things considered, given he grossly outparameters Shulk. To give you an idea, part of those images come from a fight where Bey fights someone with even better precog than Shulk, which makes him literally unable to die (even though he can't hurt Bey, creating a stalemate), and he still gets hits in. Shulk's precog is insufficient for this task given that a better version could only go so far.
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greengravy294
07/16/17 7:30:47 AM
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I personally dont think shulk and his shield spam can keep up with bey's stake spam
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Wanglicious
07/16/17 7:52:52 AM
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...strangely just got this one earlier in the week, unzipped and it's one of the VNs to go on the new HDD.
but haven't played yet.
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greengravy294
07/16/17 12:26:07 PM
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Nice pirating

I'm disappointed go buy it


The first 6 chapters are even FREE!!!!
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trdl23
07/16/17 12:41:55 PM
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Tempted to spitevote against Kaziklu because that VN is hot garbage.
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FFDragon
07/16/17 9:06:33 PM
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trdl23 posted...
that VN is hot garbage.


precisely why I ignored this one
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07/16/17 9:43:14 PM
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