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Transcendentia 07/18/17 9:58:49 PM #252:	someone get me caught up on this topic please i assume gunplaygirl is polluting this topic with tremendous amounts of bullshit <cite>Transcendentia posted [p:883175287] in If you kne... [t:75577103]...</cite> <quote>someone get me caught up on this topic please i assume gunplaygirl is polluting this topic with tremendous amounts of bullshit</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gunplagirl 07/18/17 10:04:41 PM #253:	Transcendentia posted... someone get me caught up on this topic please i assume gunplaygirl is polluting this topic with tremendous amounts of bullshit Your cis fragilities do get set off so easily --- Pokemon Moon FC: 1994-2190-5020 IGN: Vanessa <cite>gunplagirl posted [p:883175619] in If you kne... [t:75577103]...</cite> <quote><cite>Transcendentia posted...</cite> <quote>someone get me caught up on this topic please i assume gunplaygirl is polluting this topic with tremendous amounts of bullshit</quote> Your cis fragilities do get set off so easily</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MLGSerperior111 07/18/17 10:06:56 PM #254:	Zurkon posted... If it means giving them an easier life then absolutely. --- FC: 0233-0297-6306 IGN: Lucas So original, you can just feel the unoriginality of my originality. <cite>MLGSerperior111 posted [p:883175748] in If you kne... [t:75577103]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zurkon posted...</cite> <quote>If it means giving them an easier life then absolutely.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Transcendentia 07/18/17 10:11:20 PM #255:	lmao what? gunplagirl is literally making up shit now <cite>Transcendentia posted [p:883176020] in If you kne... [t:75577103]...</cite> <quote>lmao what? gunplagirl is literally making up shit now</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gunplagirl 07/18/17 10:15:39 PM #256:	IfGodCouldDie posted... gunplagirl posted... IfGodCouldDie posted... gunplagirl posted... MutantJohn posted... IfGodCouldDie posted... MutantJohn posted... Lol cure. Classic Admiral. You say that like being trans isn't an affliction that many people wish they didn't have to suffer through. Affliction may not be the best word choice. Keep in mind, most trans people face social persecution. This times a million Yea, so? Its not like i am saying that their persecution is justified. Quite the opposite. Persecuting trans people is terrible especially because it's not something they have any kind of control over. Just like the persecution of most people really. And your solution is to make them not exist? What about combating the societal persecution? Would you not help? Where did I say that? If you would "cure" them all, you'd erase them from existence. --- Pokemon Moon FC: 1994-2190-5020 IGN: Vanessa <cite>gunplagirl posted [p:883176276] in If you kne... [t:75577103]...</cite> <quote><cite>IfGodCouldDie posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>IfGodCouldDie posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MutantJohn posted...</cite> <quote><cite>IfGodCouldDie posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MutantJohn posted...</cite> <quote> Lol cure. Classic Admiral.</quote> You say that like being trans isn't an affliction that many people wish they didn't have to suffer through.</quote> Affliction may not be the best word choice. Keep in mind, most trans people face social persecution.</quote> This times a million</quote> Yea, so? Its not like i am saying that their persecution is justified. Quite the opposite. Persecuting trans people is terrible especially because it's not something they have any kind of control over. Just like the persecution of most people really.</quote> And your solution is to make them not exist? What about combating the societal persecution? Would you not help?</quote> Where did I say that?</quote> If you would "cure" them all, you'd erase them from existence.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gunplagirl 07/18/17 10:16:36 PM #257:	Transcendentia posted... lmao what? gunplagirl is literally making up shit now A cis person, presumably male, who thinks he knows trans issues better than a trans woman? Color me surprised --- Pokemon Moon FC: 1994-2190-5020 IGN: Vanessa <cite>gunplagirl posted [p:883176328] in If you kne... [t:75577103]...</cite> <quote><cite>Transcendentia posted...</cite> <quote>lmao what? gunplagirl is literally making up shit now</quote> A cis person, presumably male, who thinks he knows trans issues better than a trans woman? Color me surprised</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Transcendentia 07/18/17 10:17:43 PM #258:	wow gunplagirl is a bigot. literally assumed my gender and whether or not i believe in this cis-trans dichotomy. <cite>Transcendentia posted [p:883176378] in If you kne... [t:75577103]...</cite> <quote>wow gunplagirl is a bigot. literally assumed my gender and whether or not i believe in this cis-trans dichotomy.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StarReaper13 07/18/17 10:25:14 PM #259:	Of course. --- Ignore when people say that the title length is not important, that a title should just convey what the game is about. They're just jealous theirs isn't as long <cite>StarReaper13 posted [p:883176804] in If you kne... [t:75577103]...</cite> <quote>Of course.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xelltrix 07/18/17 10:25:54 PM #260:	gunplagirl posted... Transcendentia posted... lmao what? gunplagirl is literally making up shit now A cis person, presumably male, who thinks he knows trans issues better than a trans woman? Color me surprised This carries about as much weight as Milo being gay. --- Reading this post may induce one or more of the following: Nausea / Butt-Hurt / Lulz / UM? Syndrome / Angst / Diarrhea <cite>Xelltrix posted [p:883176842] in If you kne... [t:75577103]...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Transcendentia posted...</cite> <quote>lmao what? gunplagirl is literally making up shit now</quote> A cis person, presumably male, who thinks he knows trans issues better than a trans woman? Color me surprised</quote> This carries about as much weight as Milo being gay.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IfGodCouldDie 07/18/17 10:32:28 PM #261:	gunplagirl posted... If you would "cure" them all, you'd erase them from existence. How do you figure? The people themselves would still exist. --- Mind post. XBL:Cyanide Sucker PSN:Paters1 IGN:SuperPattyCakes <cite>IfGodCouldDie posted [p:883177209] in If you kne... [t:75577103]...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote>If you would "cure" them all, you'd erase them from existence.</quote> How do you figure? The people themselves would still exist.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anteaterking 07/18/17 10:35:12 PM #262:	Would it be bad if deaf culture died out because of advances in technology? --- http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Anteaterking/scan00021.jpg http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Anteaterking/scan00021.jpg <cite>Anteaterking posted [p:883177365] in If you kne... [t:75577103]...</cite> <quote>Would it be bad if deaf culture died out because of advances in technology?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThyCorndog 07/18/17 10:37:50 PM #263:	pre natal makes it an easy decision. from what I understand being trans is difficult, so why make my kid go through the transition after they're already born when it can be done with a simple injection or whatever before they're born? is there a point to having to go through that struggle? --- Hey what's going on in this thread http://i.imgur.com/6fpKRW8.gif http://i.imgur.com/RNZi0gk.gif <cite>ThyCorndog posted [p:883177523] in If you kne... [t:75577103]...</cite> <quote>pre natal makes it an easy decision. from what I understand being trans is difficult, so why make my kid go through the transition after they're already born when it can be done with a simple injection or whatever before they're born? is there a point to having to go through that struggle?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gunplagirl 07/18/17 10:38:28 PM #264:	Xelltrix posted... gunplagirl posted... Transcendentia posted... lmao what? gunplagirl is literally making up shit now A cis person, presumably male, who thinks he knows trans issues better than a trans woman? Color me surprised This carries about as much weight as Milo being gay. He's a Nazi. I punch them. Unless you're citing horseshoe theory which is total bs. --- Pokemon Moon FC: 1994-2190-5020 IGN: Vanessa <cite>gunplagirl posted [p:883177559] in If you kne... [t:75577103]...</cite> <quote><cite>Xelltrix posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Transcendentia posted...</cite> <quote>lmao what? gunplagirl is literally making up shit now</quote> A cis person, presumably male, who thinks he knows trans issues better than a trans woman? Color me surprised</quote> This carries about as much weight as Milo being gay.</quote> He's a Nazi. I punch them. Unless you're citing horseshoe theory which is total bs.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Transcendentia 07/18/17 10:44:22 PM #265:	Anteaterking posted... Would it be bad if deaf culture died out because of advances in technology? according to hockeybub and gunplagirl, yes. it'd be as reprehensible as the nazi eugenic experiments <cite>Transcendentia posted [p:883177899] in If you kne... [t:75577103]...</cite> <quote><cite>Anteaterking posted...</cite> <quote>Would it be bad if deaf culture died out because of advances in technology?</quote> according to hockeybub and gunplagirl, yes. it'd be as reprehensible as the nazi eugenic experiments</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gunplagirl 07/18/17 10:49:22 PM #266:	Transcendentia posted... Anteaterking posted... Would it be bad if deaf culture died out because of advances in technology? according to hockeybub and gunplagirl, yes. it'd be as reprehensible as the nazi eugenic experiments Hardly. To repeat for like the fourth time, "the majority of issues trans face stems from external sources ie society." It, in itself, does not have an impact on quality of life. Being blind does have an impact that is much more measurable. Incidentally, giving treating a trans person's identity as valid is going to improve their esteem in much the way giving corneal implants improves the esteem of the blind. --- Pokemon Moon FC: 1994-2190-5020 IGN: Vanessa <cite>gunplagirl posted [p:883178204] in If you kne... [t:75577103]...</cite> <quote><cite>Transcendentia posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Anteaterking posted...</cite> <quote>Would it be bad if deaf culture died out because of advances in technology?</quote> according to hockeybub and gunplagirl, yes. it'd be as reprehensible as the nazi eugenic experiments</quote> Hardly. To repeat for like the fourth time, "the majority of issues trans face stems from external sources ie society." It, in itself, does not have an impact on quality of life. Being blind does have an impact that is much more measurable. Incidentally, giving treating a trans person's identity as valid is going to improve their esteem in much the way giving corneal implants improves the esteem of the blind.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xelltrix 07/18/17 10:51:30 PM #267:	How exactly is having to go through hormone therapy and gender reassignment not a large impact on life quality? --- Reading this post may induce one or more of the following: Nausea / Butt-Hurt / Lulz / UM? Syndrome / Angst / Diarrhea <cite>Xelltrix posted [p:883178312] in If you kne... [t:75577103]...</cite> <quote>How exactly is having to go through hormone therapy and gender reassignment not a large impact on life quality?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Transcendentia 07/18/17 10:52:08 PM #268:	Xelltrix posted... How exactly does having to go through hormone therapy and gender reassignment not a large impact on life quality? Somehow, needing hormones and a surgery to change your genitalia is not a burden at all! It's only society that makes it burdensome! Or something. <cite>Transcendentia posted [p:883178349] in If you kne... [t:75577103]...</cite> <quote><cite>Xelltrix posted...</cite> <quote>How exactly does having to go through hormone therapy and gender reassignment not a large impact on life quality?</quote> Somehow, needing hormones and a surgery to change your genitalia is not a burden at all! It's only society that makes it burdensome! Or something.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anteaterking 07/18/17 10:55:48 PM #269:	gunplagirl posted... Hardly. To repeat for like the fourth time, "the majority of issues trans face stems from external sources ie society." It, in itself, does not have an impact on quality of life. Being blind does have an impact that is much more measurable. Incidentally, giving treating a trans person's identity as valid is going to improve their esteem in much the way giving corneal implants improves the esteem of the blind. I said deaf, not blind. AFAIK, blind culture isn't a thing. But (some) deaf people have said they wouldn't give their hypothetical deaf children surgery to fix it, because their unique culture would die out. --- http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Anteaterking/scan00021.jpg http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Anteaterking/scan00021.jpg <cite>Anteaterking posted [p:883178545] in If you kne... [t:75577103]...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote>Hardly. To repeat for like the fourth time, "the majority of issues trans face stems from external sources ie society." It, in itself, does not have an impact on quality of life. Being blind does have an impact that is much more measurable. Incidentally, giving treating a trans person's identity as valid is going to improve their esteem in much the way giving corneal implants improves the esteem of the blind.</quote> I said deaf, not blind. AFAIK, blind culture isn't a thing. But (some) deaf people have said they wouldn't give their hypothetical deaf children surgery to fix it, because their unique culture would die out.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sayoria 07/18/17 10:58:52 PM #270:	gunplagirl posted... Sayoria posted... gunplagirl posted... Sayoria also thinks insulting trans girls who don't pass or can't afford lasers is fair game. I think trans woman should focus on transitioning rather than spending hundreds and thousands of dollars playing dressy up. And many struggle with maintaining or finding employment because they get fired for being trans, so they can't even afford a proper wardrobe. I have and still am working "as a man" to save my funds. They can too if they cannot find accommodating work. I've been working for 10+ years as a man knowing that it has been essential to get where I am today. I don't regret it and I am finally almost there. They have a choice: - Cry about it. - Do something about it. The choice is theirs. --- i.imgur.com/OBxVnqJ.png ~ www.azaleasdolls.com/dressupgames/heroine-creator.php i.imgur.com/Pj3WBiE.jpg ~ www.dolldivine.com/sailor-moon-senshi-maker.php <cite>Sayoria posted [p:883178717] in If you kne... [t:75577103]...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sayoria posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote>Sayoria also thinks insulting trans girls who don't pass or can't afford lasers is fair game.</quote> I think trans woman should focus on transitioning rather than spending hundreds and thousands of dollars playing dressy up.</quote> And many struggle with maintaining or finding employment because they get fired for being trans, so they can't even afford a proper wardrobe.</quote> I have and still am working "as a man" to save my funds. They can too if they cannot find accommodating work. I've been working for 10+ years as a man knowing that it has been essential to get where I am today. I don't regret it and I am finally almost there. They have a choice: - Cry about it. - Do something about it. The choice is theirs.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Monday 07/18/17 10:59:48 PM #271:	gunplagirl posted... Transcendentia posted... Anteaterking posted... Would it be bad if deaf culture died out because of advances in technology? according to hockeybub and gunplagirl, yes. it'd be as reprehensible as the nazi eugenic experiments Hardly. To repeat for like the fourth time, "the majority of issues trans face stems from external sources ie society." It, in itself, does not have an impact on quality of life. Being blind does have an impact that is much more measurable. Incidentally, giving treating a trans person's identity as valid is going to improve their esteem in much the way giving corneal implants improves the esteem of the blind. External sources are a huge part of life, though. Society at large isn't going to magically wake up one day and abandon it's hatred of all things different. Curing an illness makes more sense than hoping people will grow more tolerant of said illness. As a trans person, you of all people should understand the stigma associated with mental illness in the US. Some things in life are gray, some things are genuinely black and white. People being people happens to be black and white. --- http://i.imgur.com/xufaPCs.gif https://i.imgtc.com/iz1Ql9V.jpg https://i.imgtc.com/HJrfmRk.jpg http://i.imgur.com/KRQrSDs.jpg <cite>Monday posted [p:883178767] in If you kne... [t:75577103]...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Transcendentia posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Anteaterking posted...</cite> <quote>Would it be bad if deaf culture died out because of advances in technology?</quote> according to hockeybub and gunplagirl, yes. it'd be as reprehensible as the nazi eugenic experiments</quote> Hardly. To repeat for like the fourth time, "the majority of issues trans face stems from external sources ie society." It, in itself, does not have an impact on quality of life. Being blind does have an impact that is much more measurable. Incidentally, giving treating a trans person's identity as valid is going to improve their esteem in much the way giving corneal implants improves the esteem of the blind.</quote> External sources are a huge part of life, though. Society at large isn't going to magically wake up one day and abandon it's hatred of all things different. Curing an illness makes more sense than hoping people will grow more tolerant of said illness. As a trans person, you of all people should understand the stigma associated with mental illness in the US. Some things in life are gray, some things are genuinely black and white. People being people happens to be black and white.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gunplagirl 07/18/17 11:00:32 PM #272:	Xelltrix posted... How exactly is having to go through hormone therapy and gender reassignment not a large impact on life quality? It improves the quality of life. --- Pokemon Moon FC: 1994-2190-5020 IGN: Vanessa <cite>gunplagirl posted [p:883178796] in If you kne... [t:75577103]...</cite> <quote><cite>Xelltrix posted...</cite> <quote>How exactly is having to go through hormone therapy and gender reassignment not a large impact on life quality?</quote> It improves the quality of life.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Transcendentia 07/18/17 11:01:53 PM #273:	gunplagirl posted... Xelltrix posted... How exactly is having to go through hormone therapy and gender reassignment not a large impact on life quality? It improves the quality of life. a prenatal cure prevents needing hormones and surgery in order to feel better <cite>Transcendentia posted [p:883178856] in If you kne... [t:75577103]...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Xelltrix posted...</cite> <quote>How exactly is having to go through hormone therapy and gender reassignment not a large impact on life quality?</quote> It improves the quality of life.</quote> a prenatal cure prevents needing hormones and surgery in order to feel better</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StarReaper13 07/18/17 11:05:15 PM #274:	gunplagirl posted... Xelltrix posted... How exactly is having to go through hormone therapy and gender reassignment not a large impact on life quality? It improves the quality of life. Compared to not needing them at all? --- Ignore when people say that the title length is not important, that a title should just convey what the game is about. They're just jealous theirs isn't as long <cite>StarReaper13 posted [p:883179043] in If you kne... [t:75577103]...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Xelltrix posted...</cite> <quote>How exactly is having to go through hormone therapy and gender reassignment not a large impact on life quality?</quote> It improves the quality of life.</quote> Compared to not needing them at all?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mist_Turnips 07/18/17 11:05:28 PM #275:	gunplagirl posted... Xelltrix posted... gunplagirl posted... Transcendentia posted... lmao what? gunplagirl is literally making up shit now A cis person, presumably male, who thinks he knows trans issues better than a trans woman? Color me surprised This carries about as much weight as Milo being gay. He's a Nazi. I punch them. Unless you're citing horseshoe theory which is total bs. You couldn't punch a punching bag without crying like a bitch. --- "I had a funny dream last night. My roof leaked so much that I had to use my bed as a boat, and then went on a voyage." http://i.imgur.com/aT8D9ZP.png <cite>Mist_Turnips posted [p:883179053] in If you kne... [t:75577103]...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Xelltrix posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Transcendentia posted...</cite> <quote>lmao what? gunplagirl is literally making up shit now</quote> A cis person, presumably male, who thinks he knows trans issues better than a trans woman? Color me surprised</quote> This carries about as much weight as Milo being gay.</quote> He's a Nazi. I punch them. Unless you're citing horseshoe theory which is total bs.</quote> You couldn't punch a punching bag without crying like a bitch.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DrizztLink 07/18/17 11:07:50 PM #276:	Still waiting. --- http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif <cite>DrizztLink posted [p:883179169] in If you kne... [t:75577103]...</cite> <quote>Still waiting.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gunplagirl 07/18/17 11:08:22 PM #277:	Sayoria posted... gunplagirl posted... Sayoria posted... gunplagirl posted... Sayoria also thinks insulting trans girls who don't pass or can't afford lasers is fair game. I think trans woman should focus on transitioning rather than spending hundreds and thousands of dollars playing dressy up. And many struggle with maintaining or finding employment because they get fired for being trans, so they can't even afford a proper wardrobe. I have and still am working "as a man" to save my funds. They can too if they cannot find accommodating work. I've been working for 10+ years as a man knowing that it has been essential to get where I am today. I don't regret it and I am finally almost there. They have a choice: - Cry about it. - Do something about it. The choice is theirs. Not all have the societal freedom to do such things. Many have been forced into sex work. You're so extremely jaded towards those who lack the advantages you do as a passable white person. And yet you also can act as though you're a man. Well, how is (hypothetical) Jenna who got all her legal paperwork done going to act like a man when interviewing when all her papers say she's a woman named Jenna? They can't go back and use their dead name, they'd never be able to cash their checks or have them deposited in their bank properly. Then there's those who cannot mentally take the stress of detranstioning even just to work a job. I already know your stance on food stamps and other government aid. --- Pokemon Moon FC: 1994-2190-5020 IGN: Vanessa <cite>gunplagirl posted [p:883179198] in If you kne... [t:75577103]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sayoria posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sayoria posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote>Sayoria also thinks insulting trans girls who don't pass or can't afford lasers is fair game.</quote> I think trans woman should focus on transitioning rather than spending hundreds and thousands of dollars playing dressy up.</quote> And many struggle with maintaining or finding employment because they get fired for being trans, so they can't even afford a proper wardrobe.</quote> I have and still am working "as a man" to save my funds. They can too if they cannot find accommodating work. I've been working for 10+ years as a man knowing that it has been essential to get where I am today. I don't regret it and I am finally almost there. They have a choice: - Cry about it. - Do something about it. The choice is theirs.</quote> Not all have the societal freedom to do such things. Many have been forced into sex work. You're so extremely jaded towards those who lack the advantages you do as a passable white person. And yet you also can act as though you're a man. Well, how is (hypothetical) Jenna who got all her legal paperwork done going to act like a man when interviewing when all her papers say she's a woman named Jenna? They can't go back and use their dead name, they'd never be able to cash their checks or have them deposited in their bank properly. Then there's those who cannot mentally take the stress of detranstioning even just to work a job. I already know your stance on food stamps and other government aid.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gunplagirl 07/18/17 11:10:40 PM #278:	Monday posted... gunplagirl posted... Transcendentia posted... Anteaterking posted... Would it be bad if deaf culture died out because of advances in technology? according to hockeybub and gunplagirl, yes. it'd be as reprehensible as the nazi eugenic experiments Hardly. To repeat for like the fourth time, "the majority of issues trans face stems from external sources ie society." It, in itself, does not have an impact on quality of life. Being blind does have an impact that is much more measurable. Incidentally, giving treating a trans person's identity as valid is going to improve their esteem in much the way giving corneal implants improves the esteem of the blind. External sources are a huge part of life, though. Society at large isn't going to magically wake up one day and abandon it's hatred of all things different. Curing an illness makes more sense than hoping people will grow more tolerant of said illness. As a trans person, you of all people should understand the stigma associated with mental illness in the US. Some things in life are gray, some things are genuinely black and white. People being people happens to be black and white. Strange, for the most part people of color are accepted into society to the point many white people think racial issues aren't a thing in America. Society can and has improved before. --- Pokemon Moon FC: 1994-2190-5020 IGN: Vanessa <cite>gunplagirl posted [p:883179303] in If you kne... [t:75577103]...</cite> <quote><cite>Monday posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Transcendentia posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Anteaterking posted...</cite> <quote>Would it be bad if deaf culture died out because of advances in technology?</quote> according to hockeybub and gunplagirl, yes. it'd be as reprehensible as the nazi eugenic experiments</quote> Hardly. To repeat for like the fourth time, "the majority of issues trans face stems from external sources ie society." It, in itself, does not have an impact on quality of life. Being blind does have an impact that is much more measurable. Incidentally, giving treating a trans person's identity as valid is going to improve their esteem in much the way giving corneal implants improves the esteem of the blind.</quote> External sources are a huge part of life, though. Society at large isn't going to magically wake up one day and abandon it's hatred of all things different. Curing an illness makes more sense than hoping people will grow more tolerant of said illness. As a trans person, you of all people should understand the stigma associated with mental illness in the US. Some things in life are gray, some things are genuinely black and white. People being people happens to be black and white.</quote> Strange, for the most part people of color are accepted into society to the point many white people think racial issues aren't a thing in America. Society can and has improved before.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gunplagirl 07/18/17 11:13:15 PM #279:	Mist_Turnips posted... gunplagirl posted... Xelltrix posted... gunplagirl posted... Transcendentia posted... lmao what? gunplagirl is literally making up shit now A cis person, presumably male, who thinks he knows trans issues better than a trans woman? Color me surprised This carries about as much weight as Milo being gay. He's a Nazi. I punch them. Unless you're citing horseshoe theory which is total bs. You couldn't punch a punching bag without crying like a bitch. That's when I'll pull out my baton. And the only person to cry so far has been Richard Spencer after he got punched. So scared. Hilarious. --- Pokemon Moon FC: 1994-2190-5020 IGN: Vanessa <cite>gunplagirl posted [p:883179431] in If you kne... [t:75577103]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mist_Turnips posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Xelltrix posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Transcendentia posted...</cite> <quote>lmao what? gunplagirl is literally making up shit now</quote> A cis person, presumably male, who thinks he knows trans issues better than a trans woman? Color me surprised</quote> This carries about as much weight as Milo being gay.</quote> He's a Nazi. I punch them. Unless you're citing horseshoe theory which is total bs.</quote> You couldn't punch a punching bag without crying like a bitch.</quote> That's when I'll pull out my baton. And the only person to cry so far has been Richard Spencer after he got punched. So scared. Hilarious.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gunplagirl 07/18/17 11:15:24 PM #280:	Transcendentia posted... gunplagirl posted... Xelltrix posted... How exactly is having to go through hormone therapy and gender reassignment not a large impact on life quality? It improves the quality of life. a prenatal cure prevents needing hormones and surgery in order to feel better Does it? David Reimer ring a bell? --- Pokemon Moon FC: 1994-2190-5020 IGN: Vanessa <cite>gunplagirl posted [p:883179532] in If you kne... [t:75577103]...</cite> <quote><cite>Transcendentia posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Xelltrix posted...</cite> <quote>How exactly is having to go through hormone therapy and gender reassignment not a large impact on life quality?</quote> It improves the quality of life.</quote> a prenatal cure prevents needing hormones and surgery in order to feel better</quote> Does it? David Reimer ring a bell?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sayoria 07/18/17 11:16:49 PM #281:	gunplagirl posted... Sayoria posted... gunplagirl posted... Sayoria posted... gunplagirl posted... Sayoria also thinks insulting trans girls who don't pass or can't afford lasers is fair game. I think trans woman should focus on transitioning rather than spending hundreds and thousands of dollars playing dressy up. And many struggle with maintaining or finding employment because they get fired for being trans, so they can't even afford a proper wardrobe. I have and still am working "as a man" to save my funds. They can too if they cannot find accommodating work. I've been working for 10+ years as a man knowing that it has been essential to get where I am today. I don't regret it and I am finally almost there. They have a choice: - Cry about it. - Do something about it. The choice is theirs. Not all have the societal freedom to do such things. Many have been forced into sex work. You're so extremely jaded towards those who lack the advantages you do as a passable white person. And yet you also can act as though you're a man. Well, how is (hypothetical) Jenna who got all her legal paperwork done going to act like a man when interviewing when all her papers say she's a woman named Jenna? They can't go back and use their dead name, they'd never be able to cash their checks or have them deposited in their bank properly. Then there's those who cannot mentally take the stress of detranstioning even just to work a job. I already know your stance on food stamps and other government aid. They shouldn't change legal work until they are passable. Changing your name prior to pass-ability is just outright ridiculous of an idea. Getting yourself physically passable should be first and foremost the most important thing to do. --- i.imgur.com/OBxVnqJ.png ~ www.azaleasdolls.com/dressupgames/heroine-creator.php i.imgur.com/Pj3WBiE.jpg ~ www.dolldivine.com/sailor-moon-senshi-maker.php <cite>Sayoria posted [p:883179606] in If you kne... [t:75577103]...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sayoria posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sayoria posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote>Sayoria also thinks insulting trans girls who don't pass or can't afford lasers is fair game.</quote> I think trans woman should focus on transitioning rather than spending hundreds and thousands of dollars playing dressy up.</quote> And many struggle with maintaining or finding employment because they get fired for being trans, so they can't even afford a proper wardrobe.</quote> I have and still am working "as a man" to save my funds. They can too if they cannot find accommodating work. I've been working for 10+ years as a man knowing that it has been essential to get where I am today. I don't regret it and I am finally almost there. They have a choice: - Cry about it. - Do something about it. The choice is theirs.</quote> Not all have the societal freedom to do such things. Many have been forced into sex work. You're so extremely jaded towards those who lack the advantages you do as a passable white person. And yet you also can act as though you're a man. Well, how is (hypothetical) Jenna who got all her legal paperwork done going to act like a man when interviewing when all her papers say she's a woman named Jenna? They can't go back and use their dead name, they'd never be able to cash their checks or have them deposited in their bank properly. Then there's those who cannot mentally take the stress of detranstioning even just to work a job. I already know your stance on food stamps and other government aid.</quote> They shouldn't change legal work until they are passable. Changing your name prior to pass-ability is just outright ridiculous of an idea. Getting yourself physically passable should be first and foremost the most important thing to do.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Transcendentia 07/18/17 11:18:05 PM #282:	gunplagirl posted... Transcendentia posted... gunplagirl posted... Xelltrix posted... How exactly is having to go through hormone therapy and gender reassignment not a large impact on life quality? It improves the quality of life. a prenatal cure prevents needing hormones and surgery in order to feel better Does it? David Reimer ring a bell? that was not a prenatal cure. that was proof that someone's genitalia matters when it comes to their identity. <cite>Transcendentia posted [p:883179678] in If you kne... [t:75577103]...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Transcendentia posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Xelltrix posted...</cite> <quote>How exactly is having to go through hormone therapy and gender reassignment not a large impact on life quality?</quote> It improves the quality of life.</quote> a prenatal cure prevents needing hormones and surgery in order to feel better</quote> Does it? David Reimer ring a bell?</quote> that was not a prenatal cure. that was proof that someone's genitalia matters when it comes to their identity.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gunplagirl 07/18/17 11:20:48 PM #283:	Sayoria posted... gunplagirl posted... Sayoria posted... gunplagirl posted... Sayoria posted... gunplagirl posted... Sayoria also thinks insulting trans girls who don't pass or can't afford lasers is fair game. I think trans woman should focus on transitioning rather than spending hundreds and thousands of dollars playing dressy up. And many struggle with maintaining or finding employment because they get fired for being trans, so they can't even afford a proper wardrobe. I have and still am working "as a man" to save my funds. They can too if they cannot find accommodating work. I've been working for 10+ years as a man knowing that it has been essential to get where I am today. I don't regret it and I am finally almost there. They have a choice: - Cry about it. - Do something about it. The choice is theirs. Not all have the societal freedom to do such things. Many have been forced into sex work. You're so extremely jaded towards those who lack the advantages you do as a passable white person. And yet you also can act as though you're a man. Well, how is (hypothetical) Jenna who got all her legal paperwork done going to act like a man when interviewing when all her papers say she's a woman named Jenna? They can't go back and use their dead name, they'd never be able to cash their checks or have them deposited in their bank properly. Then there's those who cannot mentally take the stress of detranstioning even just to work a job. I already know your stance on food stamps and other government aid. They shouldn't change legal work until they are passable. Changing your name prior to pass-ability is just outright ridiculous of an idea. Getting yourself physically passable should be first and foremost the most important thing to do. You're so totally wrong on that. Especially in regards to those who will never be able to pass because they were already well past their teens when they started. What should those who are stuck in that situation do? Answer that. --- Pokemon Moon FC: 1994-2190-5020 IGN: Vanessa <cite>gunplagirl posted [p:883179795] in If you kne... [t:75577103]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sayoria posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sayoria posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sayoria posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote>Sayoria also thinks insulting trans girls who don't pass or can't afford lasers is fair game.</quote> I think trans woman should focus on transitioning rather than spending hundreds and thousands of dollars playing dressy up.</quote> And many struggle with maintaining or finding employment because they get fired for being trans, so they can't even afford a proper wardrobe.</quote> I have and still am working "as a man" to save my funds. They can too if they cannot find accommodating work. I've been working for 10+ years as a man knowing that it has been essential to get where I am today. I don't regret it and I am finally almost there. They have a choice: - Cry about it. - Do something about it. The choice is theirs.</quote> Not all have the societal freedom to do such things. Many have been forced into sex work. You're so extremely jaded towards those who lack the advantages you do as a passable white person. And yet you also can act as though you're a man. Well, how is (hypothetical) Jenna who got all her legal paperwork done going to act like a man when interviewing when all her papers say she's a woman named Jenna? They can't go back and use their dead name, they'd never be able to cash their checks or have them deposited in their bank properly. Then there's those who cannot mentally take the stress of detranstioning even just to work a job. I already know your stance on food stamps and other government aid.</quote> They shouldn't change legal work until they are passable. Changing your name prior to pass-ability is just outright ridiculous of an idea. Getting yourself physically passable should be first and foremost the most important thing to do.</quote> You're so totally wrong on that. Especially in regards to those who will never be able to pass because they were already well past their teens when they started. What should those who are stuck in that situation do? Answer that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gunplagirl 07/18/17 11:22:10 PM #284:	Transcendentia posted... gunplagirl posted... Transcendentia posted... gunplagirl posted... Xelltrix posted... How exactly is having to go through hormone therapy and gender reassignment not a large impact on life quality? It improves the quality of life. a prenatal cure prevents needing hormones and surgery in order to feel better Does it? David Reimer ring a bell? that was not a prenatal cure. that was proof that someone's genitalia matters when it comes to their identity. And upon finding out what they were supposed to have at birth? --- Pokemon Moon FC: 1994-2190-5020 IGN: Vanessa <cite>gunplagirl posted [p:883179868] in If you kne... [t:75577103]...</cite> <quote><cite>Transcendentia posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Transcendentia posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Xelltrix posted...</cite> <quote>How exactly is having to go through hormone therapy and gender reassignment not a large impact on life quality?</quote> It improves the quality of life.</quote> a prenatal cure prevents needing hormones and surgery in order to feel better</quote> Does it? David Reimer ring a bell?</quote> that was not a prenatal cure. that was proof that someone's genitalia matters when it comes to their identity.</quote> And upon finding out what they were supposed to have at birth?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StarReaper13 07/18/17 11:26:26 PM #285:	gunplagirl posted... Transcendentia posted... gunplagirl posted... Transcendentia posted... gunplagirl posted... Xelltrix posted... How exactly is having to go through hormone therapy and gender reassignment not a large impact on life quality? It improves the quality of life. a prenatal cure prevents needing hormones and surgery in order to feel better Does it? David Reimer ring a bell? that was not a prenatal cure. that was proof that someone's genitalia matters when it comes to their identity. And upon finding out what they were supposed to have at birth? David Peter Reimer was a Canadian man born biologically male but reassigned as a girl and raised female following medical advice and intervention after his penis was accidentally destroyed during a botched circumcision in infancy. I don't think that's the same given how the prenatal cure makes them cis rather then trans. --- Ignore when people say that the title length is not important, that a title should just convey what the game is about. They're just jealous theirs isn't as long <cite>StarReaper13 posted [p:883180071] in If you kne... [t:75577103]...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Transcendentia posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Transcendentia posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Xelltrix posted...</cite> <quote>How exactly is having to go through hormone therapy and gender reassignment not a large impact on life quality?</quote> It improves the quality of life.</quote> a prenatal cure prevents needing hormones and surgery in order to feel better</quote> Does it? David Reimer ring a bell?</quote> that was not a prenatal cure. that was proof that someone's genitalia matters when it comes to their identity.</quote> And upon finding out what they were supposed to have at birth?</quote> <quote>David Peter Reimer was a Canadian man born biologically male but reassigned as a girl and raised female following medical advice and intervention after his penis was accidentally destroyed during a botched circumcision in infancy. </quote> I don't think that's the same given how the prenatal cure makes them cis rather then trans.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sayoria 07/18/17 11:27:05 PM #286:	gunplagirl posted... Sayoria posted... gunplagirl posted... Sayoria posted... gunplagirl posted... Sayoria posted... gunplagirl posted... Sayoria also thinks insulting trans girls who don't pass or can't afford lasers is fair game. I think trans woman should focus on transitioning rather than spending hundreds and thousands of dollars playing dressy up. And many struggle with maintaining or finding employment because they get fired for being trans, so they can't even afford a proper wardrobe. I have and still am working "as a man" to save my funds. They can too if they cannot find accommodating work. I've been working for 10+ years as a man knowing that it has been essential to get where I am today. I don't regret it and I am finally almost there. They have a choice: - Cry about it. - Do something about it. The choice is theirs. Not all have the societal freedom to do such things. Many have been forced into sex work. You're so extremely jaded towards those who lack the advantages you do as a passable white person. And yet you also can act as though you're a man. Well, how is (hypothetical) Jenna who got all her legal paperwork done going to act like a man when interviewing when all her papers say she's a woman named Jenna? They can't go back and use their dead name, they'd never be able to cash their checks or have them deposited in their bank properly. Then there's those who cannot mentally take the stress of detranstioning even just to work a job. I already know your stance on food stamps and other government aid. They shouldn't change legal work until they are passable. Changing your name prior to pass-ability is just outright ridiculous of an idea. Getting yourself physically passable should be first and foremost the most important thing to do. You're so totally wrong on that. Especially in regards to those who will never be able to pass because they were already well past their teens when they started. What should those who are stuck in that situation do? Answer that. I started transitioning way passed my puberty too. Look at me. I pulled myself around. I don' see myself as fully passable, but I can pass by looks as it is. Those who don't are putting their priorities on the back burner. --- i.imgur.com/OBxVnqJ.png ~ www.azaleasdolls.com/dressupgames/heroine-creator.php i.imgur.com/Pj3WBiE.jpg ~ www.dolldivine.com/sailor-moon-senshi-maker.php <cite>Sayoria posted [p:883180105] in If you kne... [t:75577103]...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sayoria posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sayoria posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sayoria posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote>Sayoria also thinks insulting trans girls who don't pass or can't afford lasers is fair game.</quote> I think trans woman should focus on transitioning rather than spending hundreds and thousands of dollars playing dressy up.</quote> And many struggle with maintaining or finding employment because they get fired for being trans, so they can't even afford a proper wardrobe.</quote> I have and still am working "as a man" to save my funds. They can too if they cannot find accommodating work. I've been working for 10+ years as a man knowing that it has been essential to get where I am today. I don't regret it and I am finally almost there. They have a choice: - Cry about it. - Do something about it. The choice is theirs.</quote> Not all have the societal freedom to do such things. Many have been forced into sex work. You're so extremely jaded towards those who lack the advantages you do as a passable white person. And yet you also can act as though you're a man. Well, how is (hypothetical) Jenna who got all her legal paperwork done going to act like a man when interviewing when all her papers say she's a woman named Jenna? They can't go back and use their dead name, they'd never be able to cash their checks or have them deposited in their bank properly. Then there's those who cannot mentally take the stress of detranstioning even just to work a job. I already know your stance on food stamps and other government aid.</quote> They shouldn't change legal work until they are passable. Changing your name prior to pass-ability is just outright ridiculous of an idea. Getting yourself physically passable should be first and foremost the most important thing to do.</quote> You're so totally wrong on that. Especially in regards to those who will never be able to pass because they were already well past their teens when they started. What should those who are stuck in that situation do? Answer that.</quote> I started transitioning way passed my puberty too. Look at me. I pulled myself around. I don' see myself as fully passable, but I can pass by looks as it is. Those who don't are putting their priorities on the back burner.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Transcendentia 07/18/17 11:29:37 PM #287:	gunplagirl posted... Transcendentia posted... gunplagirl posted... Transcendentia posted... gunplagirl posted... Xelltrix posted... How exactly is having to go through hormone therapy and gender reassignment not a large impact on life quality? It improves the quality of life. a prenatal cure prevents needing hormones and surgery in order to feel better Does it? David Reimer ring a bell? that was not a prenatal cure. that was proof that someone's genitalia matters when it comes to their identity. And upon finding out what they were supposed to have at birth? dude david reimer disproves your narrative. after a botched circumcision, they tried to force him to live as a girl. but it didn't work out that way because his mind and his body matched as male. in the case that he would have been born with a mismatch, the prenatal cure mentioned in the OP would be a sufficient and morally required solution to this type of problem. <cite>Transcendentia posted [p:883180220] in If you kne... [t:75577103]...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Transcendentia posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Transcendentia posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Xelltrix posted...</cite> <quote>How exactly is having to go through hormone therapy and gender reassignment not a large impact on life quality?</quote> It improves the quality of life.</quote> a prenatal cure prevents needing hormones and surgery in order to feel better</quote> Does it? David Reimer ring a bell?</quote> that was not a prenatal cure. that was proof that someone's genitalia matters when it comes to their identity.</quote> And upon finding out what they were supposed to have at birth?</quote> dude david reimer disproves your narrative. after a botched circumcision, they tried to force him to live as a girl. but it didn't work out that way because his mind and his body matched as male. in the case that he would have been born with a mismatch, the prenatal cure mentioned in the OP would be a sufficient and morally required solution to this type of problem.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blue_Inigo 07/18/17 11:32:46 PM #288:	ssj3vegeta posted... Imagine curing racism before dey are born doe Got em --- "This is your last dance." <cite>Blue_Inigo posted [p:883180385] in If you kne... [t:75577103]...</cite> <quote><cite>ssj3vegeta posted...</cite> <quote>Imagine curing racism before dey are born doe</quote> Got em</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gunplagirl 07/18/17 11:35:26 PM #289:	Sayoria posted... I started transitioning way passed my puberty too. Look at me. I pulled myself around. I don' see myself as fully passable, but I can pass by looks as it is. Those who don't are putting their priorities on the back burner. You never actually answered my question. What about THEM? If you think that it's impossible for you to be clocked you're so wrong. --- Pokemon Moon FC: 1994-2190-5020 IGN: Vanessa <cite>gunplagirl posted [p:883180523] in If you kne... [t:75577103]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sayoria posted...</cite> <quote> I started transitioning way passed my puberty too. Look at me. I pulled myself around. I don' see myself as fully passable, but I can pass by looks as it is. Those who don't are putting their priorities on the back burner.</quote> You never actually answered my question. What about THEM? If you think that it's impossible for you to be clocked you're so wrong.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gunplagirl 07/18/17 11:36:52 PM #290:	Transcendentia posted... gunplagirl posted... Transcendentia posted... gunplagirl posted... Transcendentia posted... gunplagirl posted... Xelltrix posted... How exactly is having to go through hormone therapy and gender reassignment not a large impact on life quality? It improves the quality of life. a prenatal cure prevents needing hormones and surgery in order to feel better Does it? David Reimer ring a bell? that was not a prenatal cure. that was proof that someone's genitalia matters when it comes to their identity. And upon finding out what they were supposed to have at birth? dude david reimer disproves your narrative. after a botched circumcision, they tried to force him to live as a girl. but it didn't work out that way because his mind and his body matched as male. in the case that he would have been born with a mismatch, the prenatal cure mentioned in the OP would be a sufficient and morally required solution to this type of problem. He wasn't born with a mismatch though. At all. They forced one upon him. --- Pokemon Moon FC: 1994-2190-5020 IGN: Vanessa <cite>gunplagirl posted [p:883180602] in If you kne... [t:75577103]...</cite> <quote><cite>Transcendentia posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Transcendentia posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Transcendentia posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Xelltrix posted...</cite> <quote>How exactly is having to go through hormone therapy and gender reassignment not a large impact on life quality?</quote> It improves the quality of life.</quote> a prenatal cure prevents needing hormones and surgery in order to feel better</quote> Does it? David Reimer ring a bell?</quote> that was not a prenatal cure. that was proof that someone's genitalia matters when it comes to their identity.</quote> And upon finding out what they were supposed to have at birth?</quote> dude david reimer disproves your narrative. after a botched circumcision, they tried to force him to live as a girl. but it didn't work out that way because his mind and his body matched as male. in the case that he would have been born with a mismatch, the prenatal cure mentioned in the OP would be a sufficient and morally required solution to this type of problem.</quote> He wasn't born with a mismatch though. At all. They forced one upon him.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sayoria 07/18/17 11:38:35 PM #291:	gunplagirl posted... Sayoria posted... I started transitioning way passed my puberty too. Look at me. I pulled myself around. I don' see myself as fully passable, but I can pass by looks as it is. Those who don't are putting their priorities on the back burner. You never actually answered my question. What about THEM? If you think that it's impossible for you to be clocked you're so wrong. I didn't say that. I know I can be "clocked" but guess what? I am working on that. If I could save up 34 grand (and I did and still have it), anyone else can too if they tried for as long as I have. Sitting around crying in a wedding dress does nothing. --- i.imgur.com/OBxVnqJ.png ~ www.azaleasdolls.com/dressupgames/heroine-creator.php i.imgur.com/Pj3WBiE.jpg ~ www.dolldivine.com/sailor-moon-senshi-maker.php <cite>Sayoria posted [p:883180691] in If you kne... [t:75577103]...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sayoria posted...</cite> <quote> I started transitioning way passed my puberty too. Look at me. I pulled myself around. I don' see myself as fully passable, but I can pass by looks as it is. Those who don't are putting their priorities on the back burner.</quote> You never actually answered my question. What about THEM? If you think that it's impossible for you to be clocked you're so wrong.</quote> I didn't say that. I know I can be "clocked" but guess what? I am working on that. If I could save up 34 grand (and I did and still have it), anyone else can too if they tried for as long as I have. Sitting around crying in a wedding dress does nothing.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gunplagirl 07/18/17 11:40:59 PM #292:	Sayoria posted... gunplagirl posted... Sayoria posted... I started transitioning way passed my puberty too. Look at me. I pulled myself around. I don' see myself as fully passable, but I can pass by looks as it is. Those who don't are putting their priorities on the back burner. You never actually answered my question. What about THEM? If you think that it's impossible for you to be clocked you're so wrong. I didn't say that. I know I can be "clocked" but guess what? I am working on that. If I could save up 34 grand (and I did and still have it), anyone else can too if they tried for as long as I have. Sitting around crying in a wedding dress does nothing. Oh yes, let's just tell the poor trans girls to pull themselves up by their boot straps and work harder at the jobs they can't get. And you still never answered what the ones who changed their name but don't pass should do. --- Pokemon Moon FC: 1994-2190-5020 IGN: Vanessa <cite>gunplagirl posted [p:883180792] in If you kne... [t:75577103]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sayoria posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sayoria posted...</cite> <quote> I started transitioning way passed my puberty too. Look at me. I pulled myself around. I don' see myself as fully passable, but I can pass by looks as it is. Those who don't are putting their priorities on the back burner.</quote> You never actually answered my question. What about THEM? If you think that it's impossible for you to be clocked you're so wrong.</quote> I didn't say that. I know I can be "clocked" but guess what? I am working on that. If I could save up 34 grand (and I did and still have it), anyone else can too if they tried for as long as I have. Sitting around crying in a wedding dress does nothing.</quote> Oh yes, let's just tell the poor trans girls to pull themselves up by their boot straps and work harder at the jobs they can't get. And you still never answered what the ones who changed their name but don't pass should do.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sayoria 07/18/17 11:44:42 PM #293:	gunplagirl posted... Sayoria posted... gunplagirl posted... Sayoria posted... I started transitioning way passed my puberty too. Look at me. I pulled myself around. I don' see myself as fully passable, but I can pass by looks as it is. Those who don't are putting their priorities on the back burner. You never actually answered my question. What about THEM? If you think that it's impossible for you to be clocked you're so wrong. I didn't say that. I know I can be "clocked" but guess what? I am working on that. If I could save up 34 grand (and I did and still have it), anyone else can too if they tried for as long as I have. Sitting around crying in a wedding dress does nothing. Oh yes, let's just tell the poor trans girls to pull themselves up by their boot straps and work harder at the jobs they can't get. And you still never answered what the ones who changed their name but don't pass should do. Work harder at getting jobs then. Build a damn resume. Volunteer to get some experience. Start small and work bigger. It takes a while, but the payout is worth it. Should I just encourage them to like.... bitch all day long, or should I push them to actually making something of themselves? Why am I the bad guy for trying to push my kind to being all they can be? Change the name to a unisex one and re-apply somewhere else or something. They fucked up at that point. At the same time though, there are many, many men with very feminine names like "Kelly" and "Tracey".... they can still use those names. --- i.imgur.com/OBxVnqJ.png ~ www.azaleasdolls.com/dressupgames/heroine-creator.php i.imgur.com/Pj3WBiE.jpg ~ www.dolldivine.com/sailor-moon-senshi-maker.php <cite>Sayoria posted [p:883180957] in If you kne... [t:75577103]...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sayoria posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sayoria posted...</cite> <quote> I started transitioning way passed my puberty too. Look at me. I pulled myself around. I don' see myself as fully passable, but I can pass by looks as it is. Those who don't are putting their priorities on the back burner.</quote> You never actually answered my question. What about THEM? If you think that it's impossible for you to be clocked you're so wrong.</quote> I didn't say that. I know I can be "clocked" but guess what? I am working on that. If I could save up 34 grand (and I did and still have it), anyone else can too if they tried for as long as I have. Sitting around crying in a wedding dress does nothing.</quote> Oh yes, let's just tell the poor trans girls to pull themselves up by their boot straps and work harder at the jobs they can't get. And you still never answered what the ones who changed their name but don't pass should do.</quote> Work harder at getting jobs then. Build a damn resume. Volunteer to get some experience. Start small and work bigger. It takes a while, but the payout is worth it. Should I just encourage them to like.... bitch all day long, or should I push them to actually making something of themselves? Why am I the bad guy for trying to push my kind to being all they can be? Change the name to a unisex one and re-apply somewhere else or something. They fucked up at that point. At the same time though, there are many, many men with very feminine names like "Kelly" and "Tracey".... they can still use those names.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JohnLennon6 07/18/17 11:45:11 PM #294:	JohnLennon6 posted... JohnLennon6 posted... JohnLennon6 posted... I see the regulars are melting down as expected. --- He has good daygame - MasterOfMissions <cite>JohnLennon6 posted [p:883180977] in If you kne... [t:75577103]...</cite> <quote><cite>JohnLennon6 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>JohnLennon6 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>JohnLennon6 posted...</cite> <quote>I see the regulars are melting down as expected.</quote></quote></quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gunplagirl 07/18/17 11:55:47 PM #295:	Sayoria posted... gunplagirl posted... Sayoria posted... gunplagirl posted... Sayoria posted... I started transitioning way passed my puberty too. Look at me. I pulled myself around. I don' see myself as fully passable, but I can pass by looks as it is. Those who don't are putting their priorities on the back burner. You never actually answered my question. What about THEM? If you think that it's impossible for you to be clocked you're so wrong. I didn't say that. I know I can be "clocked" but guess what? I am working on that. If I could save up 34 grand (and I did and still have it), anyone else can too if they tried for as long as I have. Sitting around crying in a wedding dress does nothing. Oh yes, let's just tell the poor trans girls to pull themselves up by their boot straps and work harder at the jobs they can't get. And you still never answered what the ones who changed their name but don't pass should do. Work harder at getting jobs then. Build a damn resume. Volunteer to get some experience. Start small and work bigger. It takes a while, but the payout is worth it. Should I just encourage them to like.... bitch all day long, or should I push them to actually making something of themselves? Why am I the bad guy for trying to push my kind to being all they can be? Change the name to a unisex one and re-apply somewhere else or something. They fucked up at that point. At the same time though, there are many, many men with very feminine names like "Kelly" and "Tracey".... they can still use those names. Change their name with what money? They have no job, how are they going to come up with a few hundred or thousand for that? Oh wait that's wasting money and you think that's terrible. And I know how much you hate sex work. --- Pokemon Moon FC: 1994-2190-5020 IGN: Vanessa <cite>gunplagirl posted [p:883181456] in If you kne... [t:75577103]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sayoria posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sayoria posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sayoria posted...</cite> <quote> I started transitioning way passed my puberty too. Look at me. I pulled myself around. I don' see myself as fully passable, but I can pass by looks as it is. Those who don't are putting their priorities on the back burner.</quote> You never actually answered my question. What about THEM? If you think that it's impossible for you to be clocked you're so wrong.</quote> I didn't say that. I know I can be "clocked" but guess what? I am working on that. If I could save up 34 grand (and I did and still have it), anyone else can too if they tried for as long as I have. Sitting around crying in a wedding dress does nothing.</quote> Oh yes, let's just tell the poor trans girls to pull themselves up by their boot straps and work harder at the jobs they can't get. And you still never answered what the ones who changed their name but don't pass should do.</quote> Work harder at getting jobs then. Build a damn resume. Volunteer to get some experience. Start small and work bigger. It takes a while, but the payout is worth it. Should I just encourage them to like.... bitch all day long, or should I push them to actually making something of themselves? Why am I the bad guy for trying to push my kind to being all they can be? Change the name to a unisex one and re-apply somewhere else or something. They fucked up at that point. At the same time though, there are many, many men with very feminine names like "Kelly" and "Tracey".... they can still use those names.</quote> Change their name with what money? They have no job, how are they going to come up with a few hundred or thousand for that? Oh wait that's wasting money and you think that's terrible. And I know how much you hate sex work.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sayoria 07/19/17 12:03:39 AM #296:	Then they can apply as Christina and say they prefer Chris and how their parents hated them. Boom. --- i.imgur.com/OBxVnqJ.png ~ www.azaleasdolls.com/dressupgames/heroine-creator.php i.imgur.com/Pj3WBiE.jpg ~ www.dolldivine.com/sailor-moon-senshi-maker.php <cite>Sayoria posted [p:883181845] in If you kne... [t:75577103]...</cite> <quote>Then they can apply as Christina and say they prefer Chris and how their parents hated them. Boom.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
REMercsChamp 07/20/17 9:55:23 AM #297:	And the topic is back too --- https://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/35939727.jpg <cite>REMercsChamp posted [p:883261095] in If you kne... [t:75577103]...</cite> <quote>And the topic is back too</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChromaticAngel 07/20/17 10:26:01 AM #298:	REMercsChamp posted... And the topic is back too Great. Now we can stop arguing about if he used the word cure or not --- https://puu.sh/tcLsT/24f4611235.png <cite>ChromaticAngel posted [p:883262380] in If you kne... [t:75577103]...</cite> <quote><cite>REMercsChamp posted...</cite> <quote>And the topic is back too</quote> Great. Now we can stop arguing about if he used the word cure or not</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Haldol 07/20/17 10:26:46 AM #299:	I most definitely would <cite>Haldol posted [p:883262424] in If you kne... [t:75577103]...</cite> <quote>I most definitely would</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thelovefist 07/20/17 12:00:09 PM #300:	Lol some snowflake mod suspended TC for this topic. Thankfully it was overturned --- N/A <cite>thelovefist posted [p:883267018] in If you kne... [t:75577103]...</cite> <quote>Lol some snowflake mod suspended TC for this topic. Thankfully it was overturned</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IfGodCouldDie 07/20/17 12:11:04 PM #301:	thelovefist posted... Lol some snowflake mod suspended TC for this topic. Thankfully it was overturned What the actual fuck lol, what a fucking goon. --- Mind post. XBL:Cyanide Sucker PSN:Paters1 IGN:SuperPattyCakes <cite>IfGodCouldDie posted [p:883267593] in If you kne... [t:75577103]...</cite> <quote><cite>thelovefist posted...</cite> <quote>Lol some snowflake mod suspended TC for this topic. Thankfully it was overturned</quote> What the actual fuck lol, what a fucking goon.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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