Current Events > So, uhm, is Michael Sam still considered a thing?

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frozenshock
07/20/17 8:17:56 PM
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He was the first gay guy to be drafted in the NFL

He played a bit. Apparently he was really good in the CFL during practice even if he didn't play much

Is he still seen as a future NFL star?
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Bio1590
07/20/17 8:20:30 PM
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Darkninja42
07/20/17 8:25:02 PM
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He should've accepted that Raw invitation....
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frozenshock
07/20/17 8:25:04 PM
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Bio1590 posted...
No
No
No


So... he's a bust?
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Kris_Tanger
07/20/17 8:26:49 PM
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Hard to be a bust if you always fucking sucked no matter if you were gay or not
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__aCEr__
07/20/17 8:29:40 PM
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He was a seventh round pick. You can't really be considered a bust if you barely got drafted.
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omega cookie
07/20/17 8:32:37 PM
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frozenshock posted...
Bio1590 posted...
No
No
No


So... he's a bust?

Worse then that. He's a nothing. It was very clear that the only reason he was on the radar was because he made himself a media spotlight. I mean, you have to be the deepest of suck to not make the Rams Practice Squad.
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DarthAragorn
07/20/17 8:34:28 PM
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Yeah he sucked
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sktgamer_13dude
07/20/17 8:35:57 PM
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Who knows if he was the first gay player drafted. He was only the first publicly gay player drafted.
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The Admiral
07/20/17 8:37:31 PM
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He was a bust in the NFL and surprisingly just as big of a bust in the CFL.
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frozenshock
07/20/17 8:44:18 PM
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He signed a 2 year deal with the Alouettes of the CFL but the whole context seems weird...

It was like he kind of came in as some kind of big superstar and he considered the CFL to be beneath him and he was like gracing them with the honor of his superstar presence, then he just left... I think he said something about how the CFL were doing some plays differently, which was hindering him, or something like that
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sktgamer_13dude
07/20/17 8:46:22 PM
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The Admiral posted...
He was a bust in the NFL and surprisingly just as big of a bust in the CFL.

How can you bust when you're a 7th round pick?
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omega cookie
07/20/17 8:47:15 PM
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sktgamer_13dude posted...
The Admiral posted...
He was a bust in the NFL and surprisingly just as big of a bust in the CFL.

How can you bust when you're a 7th round pick?

When you don't even make the practice squad.
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The Admiral
07/20/17 8:47:52 PM
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sktgamer_13dude posted...
How can you bust when you're a 7th round pick?


You're not even good enough for the practice squad.

And you can get serviceable backups in the 7th round.
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Bio1590
07/20/17 8:48:39 PM
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IIRC he left the Alouettes because he was having issues at home.
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sktgamer_13dude
07/20/17 8:49:10 PM
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The Admiral posted...
sktgamer_13dude posted...
How can you bust when you're a 7th round pick?


You're not even good enough for the practice squad.

And you can get serviceable backups in the 7th round.

Tons of 7th round picks end up cut lol.

That doesn't mean you're a bust. He's only a bust in peoples guys because ESPN wouldn't stop talking about him.
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DarthAragorn
07/20/17 8:51:52 PM
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Yeah he's not a bust based on draft position, but he is a bust relative to how much attention he got
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scorpion41
07/20/17 8:58:18 PM
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The guy was drafted by the Rams as a publicity stunt to appease the Missouri fan base. He was a mediocre talent on a loaded Mizzou defense that more or less carried him. The draft experts' projections on him started out relatively high, but they dropped like a stone and he wasn't on anyone's board. Then he dropped the "Im gay" bomb and basically it became a dare to not draft him.
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__aCEr__
07/20/17 8:59:33 PM
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sktgamer_13dude posted...
He's only a bust in peoples guys

Well he is gay after all.
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DezCaughtIt
07/20/17 8:59:58 PM
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The Cowboys even gave him a second chance and he couldn't even make practice squad with them
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gatorsPENSbucs
07/20/17 9:01:16 PM
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omega cookie posted...
I mean, you have to be the deepest of suck to not make the Rams Practice Squad.

To be fair they had a pretty good line.
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The Admiral
07/20/17 9:03:49 PM
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gatorsPENSbucs posted...
omega cookie posted...
I mean, you have to be the deepest of suck to not make the Rams Practice Squad.

To be fair they had a pretty good line.


But the Cowboys has a terrible defense that year, and he couldn't make that practice squad either.
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sktgamer_13dude
07/20/17 9:03:53 PM
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DarthAragorn posted...
Yeah he's not a bust based on draft position, but he is a bust relative to how much attention he got

It's because ESPN wouldn't shut the fuck up about him. It's partly why people started to hate Tebow and Manziel and anyone else they won't shut up about.

I remember liking Manziel until the summer after his RS freshman year and I wanted him to suck after that summer. Literally every day it was "Manziel did this!" And "Manziel did that!"
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frozenshock
07/20/17 9:04:17 PM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Sam#St._Louis_Rams

In a statement, President Barack Obama said that he "congratulates Michael Sam, the Rams and the NFL for taking an important step forward today in our Nation's journey" and that "[f]rom the playing field to the corporate boardroom, LGBT Americans prove everyday that you should be judged by what you do and not who you are."[27][28] St. Louis Rams jerseys bearing his name became the second best selling rookie jerseys at the NFL's website behind Cleveland Browns' quarterback (and Heisman Trophy winner) Johnny Manziel.[29] During the period from April 1 through July 17, Sam's jersey ranked sixth in sales among all NFL players.[30]


Seriously?
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sktgamer_13dude
07/20/17 9:05:14 PM
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The Admiral posted...
gatorsPENSbucs posted...
omega cookie posted...
I mean, you have to be the deepest of suck to not make the Rams Practice Squad.

To be fair they had a pretty good line.


But the Cowboys has a terrible defense that year, and he couldn't make that practice squad either.

And?

Teams use their practice squad in their own ways. Sometimes it's to stash players they like for the future.

I'm not saying he was some great talent or anything (he wasn't), but to call a 7th round pick a bust is lolable.
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omega cookie
07/20/17 9:07:10 PM
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gatorsPENSbucs posted...
omega cookie posted...
I mean, you have to be the deepest of suck to not make the Rams Practice Squad.

To be fair they had a pretty good line.

Did they have depth even into their practice squad? I'm honestly asking, I'll be fucked if I know the depth chart for the 2014 Rams.
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scorpion41
07/20/17 9:09:44 PM
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omega cookie posted...
gatorsPENSbucs posted...
omega cookie posted...
I mean, you have to be the deepest of suck to not make the Rams Practice Squad.

To be fair they had a pretty good line.

Did they have depth even into their practice squad? I'm honestly asking, I'll be fucked if I know the depth chart for the 2014 Rams.


Their defensive line was loaded that year. Plus they had already taken another DE earlier that day.
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omega cookie
07/20/17 9:11:51 PM
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sktgamer_13dude posted...
The Admiral posted...
gatorsPENSbucs posted...
omega cookie posted...
I mean, you have to be the deepest of suck to not make the Rams Practice Squad.

To be fair they had a pretty good line.


But the Cowboys has a terrible defense that year, and he couldn't make that practice squad either.

And?

Teams use their practice squad in their own ways. Sometimes it's to stash players they like for the future.

I'm not saying he was some great talent or anything (he wasn't), but to call a 7th round pick a bust is lolable.

We aren't saying that he was a bust as in a "wasted pick", like Jamarcus Russell or someone like that. We're saying he was a bust in the sense that he received too much publicity and was presented to the viewers as someone he wasn't. Call it a "media bust" or something if you'd like. Teebow, Manziel, that kind of thing.

We're using bust as a wide term, and you seem to be using it as a strict term. Miscommunication I suppose.

scorpion41 posted...
Their defensive line was loaded that year. Plus they had already taken another DE earlier that day.

Ah, fair enough. I knew their line was good, but I didn't think it extended out past the first string.
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gatorsPENSbucs
07/20/17 9:30:24 PM
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Ehh, I don't know if the practice squad guys were that good, I was just trying to be devil's advocate I guess. He was awful.
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sktgamer_13dude
07/21/17 4:40:19 AM
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scorpion41 posted...
omega cookie posted...
gatorsPENSbucs posted...
omega cookie posted...
I mean, you have to be the deepest of suck to not make the Rams Practice Squad.

To be fair they had a pretty good line.

Did they have depth even into their practice squad? I'm honestly asking, I'll be fucked if I know the depth chart for the 2014 Rams.


Their defensive line was loaded that year. Plus they had already taken another DE earlier that day.

This. That line had Quinn, Long, Brockers, and I think rookie Donald. It was a stacked front 7. Quinn just came off being the sack leader too. He'd always wreck our (Seattle) offensive line.
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lilJoe457
07/21/17 5:28:54 AM
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To be honest. The way the NFL is black balling Kaepernick who I don't think is good but by God he's good enough to play on the fucking jets as a starter and back up else where.

So if they're gonna black ball a potential starter it's not shocking they're not that welcome to gay folks.
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