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PostCrisisJ2 07/26/17 9:34:09 AM #52:	Man, I'm speechless. --- spritual powah will never die Don't be shy to drop a PM to me, I'm always open for conversation. <cite>PostCrisisJ2 posted [p:883623155] in Trump admi... [t:75606299]...</cite> <quote>Man, I'm speechless.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thelovefist 07/26/17 9:34:39 AM #53:	Since most current evidence suggests that most of those that are transgender suffer from the psychiatric disorder gender dysphoria, it seems reasonable to limit their ability to access weapons that can harm themselves or others. --- N/A <cite>thelovefist posted [p:883623171] in Trump admi... [t:75606299]...</cite> <quote>Since most current evidence suggests that most of those that are transgender suffer from the psychiatric disorder gender dysphoria, it seems reasonable to limit their ability to access weapons that can harm themselves or others.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gunplagirl 07/26/17 9:34:53 AM #54:	Oh look some jerk tagged me like normal Ideally nobody would enlist but it's supposed to be accessible to all citizens and isn't so it's like. If somebody wants to sign up and get paid to go overseas and kill poor people in the interest of our nation's financial sector, isn't this the perfect way to do it? To let trans people be the ones risking everything instead of good ol all american whitey mcgee? The answer is simple. They don't want to treat lgbt people as people and especially not if it means they can become a hero. This is virtue signaling by the right and pathetic. --- Pokemon Moon FC: 1994-2190-5020 IGN: Vanessa <cite>gunplagirl posted [p:883623180] in Trump admi... [t:75606299]...</cite> <quote>Oh look some jerk tagged me like normal Ideally nobody would enlist but it's supposed to be accessible to all citizens and isn't so it's like. If somebody wants to sign up and get paid to go overseas and kill poor people in the interest of our nation's financial sector, isn't this the perfect way to do it? To let trans people be the ones risking everything instead of good ol all american whitey mcgee? The answer is simple. They don't want to treat lgbt people as people and especially not if it means they can become a hero. This is virtue signaling by the right and pathetic.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mark_DeRosa 07/26/17 9:34:54 AM #55:	I think a lot of people here are coming from an uninformed position are getting outraged over nothing I don't give a shit if someone is tramsgensered. It's considered a mental disorder though and that would bar them from deployment, probably reinelistment, maybe even get them kicked out due to mental issues Money wise Another big issue people keep bringing up is.. a guy can't pass male PT standards so he would transition to a woman for easier standard. If you look at the recent Ranger class that first allowed Women this year. They were allowed special advantages that men didn't have and extra training, extra retries for failed events(which men don't get) At the end of the day it's a military designed to kill America's enemies. Can't have mental disorders and lax standards --- Steve Nash \| 13\| Phoenix Suns \| PPG: 16.9 \| RPG: 3.60 \| APG 11.3 \| EFF: +22.96 http://www.gifsoup.com/view3/2283379/dance-o.gif <cite>Mark_DeRosa posted [p:883623183] in Trump admi... [t:75606299]...</cite> <quote>I think a lot of people here are coming from an uninformed position are getting outraged over nothing I don't give a shit if someone is tramsgensered. It's considered a mental disorder though and that would bar them from deployment, probably reinelistment, maybe even get them kicked out due to mental issues Money wise Another big issue people keep bringing up is.. a guy can't pass male PT standards so he would transition to a woman for easier standard. If you look at the recent Ranger class that first allowed Women this year. They were allowed special advantages that men didn't have and extra training, extra retries for failed events(which men don't get) At the end of the day it's a military designed to kill America's enemies. Can't have mental disorders and lax standards</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tremain07 07/26/17 9:35:49 AM #56:	It's only Wednesday, the real stupid out of Trump's mouth is always just before the weekend, don't be speechless --- I got nothing <cite>tremain07 posted [p:883623230] in Trump admi... [t:75606299]...</cite> <quote>It's only Wednesday, the real stupid out of Trump's mouth is always just before the weekend, don't be speechless</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gatorsPENSbucs 07/26/17 9:35:50 AM #57:	Metua posted... Most LGBT-friendly president ever!!!!!! Pretty much, he doesn't want them to die. I'd say that's pretty nice of him. --- http://m.imgur.com/BtD5etN?r https://m.imgur.com/a/jclul http://i.imgtc.com/etNW2apANm.jpg <cite>gatorsPENSbucs posted [p:883623231] in Trump admi... [t:75606299]...</cite> <quote><cite>Metua posted...</cite> <quote>Most LGBT-friendly president ever!!!!!!</quote> Pretty much, he doesn't want them to die. I'd say that's pretty nice of him.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gunplagirl 07/26/17 9:35:52 AM #58:	thelovefist posted... Since most current evidence suggests that most of those that are transgender suffer from the psychiatric disorder gender dysphoria, it seems reasonable to limit their ability to access weapons that can harm themselves or others. Literally half my friends list on Facebook has guns. See, the people who need guns most are minorities like trans women who need to be able to protect themselves. --- Pokemon Moon FC: 1994-2190-5020 IGN: Vanessa <cite>gunplagirl posted [p:883623233] in Trump admi... [t:75606299]...</cite> <quote><cite>thelovefist posted...</cite> <quote>Since most current evidence suggests that most of those that are transgender suffer from the psychiatric disorder gender dysphoria, it seems reasonable to limit their ability to access weapons that can harm themselves or others.</quote> Literally half my friends list on Facebook has guns. See, the people who need guns most are minorities like trans women who need to be able to protect themselves.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OpheliaAdenade 07/26/17 9:36:37 AM #59:	gatorsPENSbucs posted... Metua posted... Most LGBT-friendly president ever!!!!!! Pretty much, he doesn't want them to die. I'd say that's pretty nice of him. And the GOP used to think that gay people were just too precious to risk in combat. :o Hence, don't ask don't tell. --- http://imgur.com/Q6Qj55q <cite>OpheliaAdenade posted [p:883623265] in Trump admi... [t:75606299]...</cite> <quote><cite>gatorsPENSbucs posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Metua posted...</cite> <quote>Most LGBT-friendly president ever!!!!!!</quote> Pretty much, he doesn't want them to die. I'd say that's pretty nice of him.</quote> And the GOP used to think that gay people were just too precious to risk in combat. :o Hence, don't ask don't tell.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
emblem boy 07/26/17 9:37:32 AM #60:	How much are these medical costs? Someone wanting to join so that they have the chance for their surgery eventually being paid for doesn't really bother me. Many many people join the military for financial reasons such as the bonuses and college tuition payment, and I don't think people have an issue with that. There are currently monetary reasons for joining, and this would be no different. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.2.1 <cite>emblem boy posted [p:883623309] in Trump admi... [t:75606299]...</cite> <quote>How much are these medical costs? Someone wanting to join so that they have the chance for their surgery eventually being paid for doesn't really bother me. Many many people join the military for financial reasons such as the bonuses and college tuition payment, and I don't think people have an issue with that. There are currently monetary reasons for joining, and this would be no different.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 07/26/17 9:38:05 AM #61:	The Admiral posted... DrizztLink posted... The Admiral posted... Non-issue. of course it s for you it doesn't involve white racism Nah. Because if we get real, the universe of people who both want to serve in the military and are transgender is probably not even a couple hundred people. This is not worth anyone's time to even worry about. This suggests 15,000 currently serving http://www.transequality.org/issues/military-veterans --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:883623335] in Trump admi... [t:75606299]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DrizztLink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>Non-issue.</quote> of course it s for you it doesn't involve white racism</quote> Nah. Because if we get real, the universe of people who both want to serve in the military and are transgender is probably not even a couple hundred people. This is not worth anyone's time to even worry about.</quote> This suggests 15,000 currently serving http://www.transequality.org/issues/military-veterans</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bluebomber182 07/26/17 9:38:05 AM #62:	and yet we allow a mentally ill man like trump be potus @Mark_DeRosa --- WWE Champ The Maharaja Jinder Mahal YOU CAN'T HINDER THE JINDER!!!!! <cite>Bluebomber182 posted [p:883623336] in Trump admi... [t:75606299]...</cite> <quote>and yet we allow a mentally ill man like trump be potus @Mark_DeRosa</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 07/26/17 9:39:05 AM #63:	Antifar posted... The Admiral posted... DrizztLink posted... The Admiral posted... Non-issue. of course it s for you it doesn't involve white racism Nah. Because if we get real, the universe of people who both want to serve in the military and are transgender is probably not even a couple hundred people. This is not worth anyone's time to even worry about. This suggests 15,000 currently serving http://www.transequality.org/issues/military-veterans Which is pro-LBGT horseshit. That would mean the military has rates of transgenderism that is more than 10x the population average. --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:883623371] in Trump admi... [t:75606299]...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DrizztLink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>Non-issue.</quote> of course it s for you it doesn't involve white racism</quote> Nah. Because if we get real, the universe of people who both want to serve in the military and are transgender is probably not even a couple hundred people. This is not worth anyone's time to even worry about.</quote> This suggests 15,000 currently serving http://www.transequality.org/issues/military-veterans</quote> Which is pro-LBGT horseshit. That would mean the military has rates of transgenderism that is more than 10x the population average.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
X777WgpUYZ5Hv23 07/26/17 9:39:08 AM #64:	Antifar posted... This suggests 15,000 currently serving That page states: It’s estimated that over 134,000 American veterans are transgender, and over 15,000 trans people are serving in military today. What is the source? <cite>X777WgpUYZ5Hv23 posted [p:883623373] in Trump admi... [t:75606299]...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote> This suggests 15,000 currently serving</quote> That page states: It’s estimated that over 134,000 American veterans are transgender, and over 15,000 trans people are serving in military today. What is the source?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sayoria 07/26/17 9:39:37 AM #65:	The Admiral posted... DrizztLink posted... The Admiral posted... Non-issue. of course it s for you it doesn't involve white racism Nah. Because if we get real, the universe of people who both want to serve in the military and are transgender is probably not even a couple hundred people. This is not worth anyone's time to even worry about. It's not right to pull a "Don't ask don't tell" on transgender individuals. If we aren't even allowed to speak of it within the military, that's not just outright discrimination. That is revoking someone like me from fighting for the country that once gave me a freedom. But of course, those freedoms to aid my country are being revoked now. My protections within the schooling systems are being revoked. All care with this administration towards people like me are out the window. I'm sorry Admiral. You know how I stand on even grounds typically. This is just bullshit. If you want to serve your country, it should be your choice to do it. I'm just as American as anyone else on CE or in this country. Fuck this administration. --- i.imgur.com/OBxVnqJ.png ~ www.azaleasdolls.com/dressupgames/heroine-creator.php i.imgur.com/Pj3WBiE.jpg ~ www.dolldivine.com/sailor-moon-senshi-maker.php <cite>Sayoria posted [p:883623395] in Trump admi... [t:75606299]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DrizztLink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>Non-issue.</quote> of course it s for you it doesn't involve white racism</quote> Nah. Because if we get real, the universe of people who both want to serve in the military and are transgender is probably not even a couple hundred people. This is not worth anyone's time to even worry about.</quote> It's not right to pull a "Don't ask don't tell" on transgender individuals. If we aren't even allowed to speak of it within the military, that's not just outright discrimination. That is revoking someone like me from fighting for the country that once gave me a freedom. But of course, those freedoms to aid my country are being revoked now. My protections within the schooling systems are being revoked. All care with this administration towards people like me are out the window. I'm sorry Admiral. You know how I stand on even grounds typically. This is just bullshit. If you want to serve your country, it should be your choice to do it. I'm just as American as anyone else on CE or in this country. Fuck this administration.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 07/26/17 9:40:00 AM #66:	X777WgpUYZ5Hv23 posted... Antifar posted... This suggests 15,000 currently serving That page states: It’s estimated that over 134,000 American veterans are transgender, and over 15,000 trans people are serving in military today. What is the source? Wishful thinking. --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:883623419] in Trump admi... [t:75606299]...</cite> <quote><cite>X777WgpUYZ5Hv23 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote> This suggests 15,000 currently serving</quote> That page states: It’s estimated that over 134,000 American veterans are transgender, and over 15,000 trans people are serving in military today. What is the source?</quote> Wishful thinking.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thelovefist 07/26/17 9:40:17 AM #67:	gunplagirl posted... thelovefist posted... Since most current evidence suggests that most of those that are transgender suffer from the psychiatric disorder gender dysphoria, it seems reasonable to limit their ability to access weapons that can harm themselves or others. Literally half my friends list on Facebook has guns. See, the people who need guns most are minorities like trans women who need to be able to protect themselves. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism --- N/A <cite>thelovefist posted [p:883623435] in Trump admi... [t:75606299]...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>thelovefist posted...</cite> <quote>Since most current evidence suggests that most of those that are transgender suffer from the psychiatric disorder gender dysphoria, it seems reasonable to limit their ability to access weapons that can harm themselves or others.</quote> Literally half my friends list on Facebook has guns. See, the people who need guns most are minorities like trans women who need to be able to protect themselves.</quote> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Malcolm_Caradoc 07/26/17 9:40:28 AM #68:	voldothegr8 posted... Malcolm_Caradoc posted... This has made me more angry than I would have guessed. This hurts. This actually hurts. My anger, my hate for Trump and all conservatives who support this right now is overwhelming. Jesus I hate you people. It was WRONG when you banned blacks and whites from serving together in same unit. It was WRONG when you banned gays. IT'S WRONG today for all the same reasons. Every time you've said the same fucking thing, "We cant let blacks and whites serve together because it will affect unit cohesion, we cant let gays serve because unit cohesion, we cant let trans serve because unit cohesion!" Why cant you look at the pattern of history and realize YOU'RE WRONG? People dont want trans in the military because theyre prejudiced against trans, end of story. Youre sick, hateful people who think it's a psychiatric condition when it isnt! Fuck Trump and everyone who makes attack helicopter jokes. --- M. <cite>Malcolm_Caradoc posted [p:883623446] in Trump admi... [t:75606299]...</cite> <quote><cite>voldothegr8 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Malcolm_Caradoc posted...</cite> <quote>This has made me more angry than I would have guessed. This hurts. This actually hurts. My anger, my hate for Trump and all conservatives who support this right now is overwhelming.</quote> </quote> Jesus I hate you people. It was WRONG when you banned blacks and whites from serving together in same unit. It was WRONG when you banned gays. IT'S WRONG today for all the same reasons. Every time you've said the same fucking thing, "We cant let blacks and whites serve together because it will affect unit cohesion, we cant let gays serve because unit cohesion, we cant let trans serve because unit cohesion!" Why cant you look at the pattern of history and realize YOU'RE WRONG? People dont want trans in the military because theyre prejudiced against trans, end of story. Youre sick, hateful people who think it's a psychiatric condition when it isnt! Fuck Trump and everyone who makes attack helicopter jokes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YourDrunkFather 07/26/17 9:40:53 AM #69:	tremain07 posted... Gays and Women are still barely accepted in the military as well. Remember, the GOP is trying to bring back don't ask, don't tell and somehow expect women to be able to meet the male standards for military training even through a woman's body is pretty different from a man's for them to have the same training regimen. So it's not at all surprising tome that they want it to return to being a boy's club of like minded individuals Hell, in the military there's a racial divide as well,it's a perfect breeding ground for tribalism. If their not phisically up to the standard then they shouldn't be allowed to join. It doesn't matter what parts you have --- One bourbon,one scotch,one beer <cite>YourDrunkFather posted [p:883623465] in Trump admi... [t:75606299]...</cite> <quote><cite>tremain07 posted...</cite> <quote>Gays and Women are still barely accepted in the military as well. Remember, the GOP is trying to bring back don't ask, don't tell and somehow expect women to be able to meet the male standards for military training even through a woman's body is pretty different from a man's for them to have the same training regimen. So it's not at all surprising tome that they want it to return to being a boy's club of like minded individuals Hell, in the military there's a racial divide as well,it's a perfect breeding ground for tribalism.</quote> If their not phisically up to the standard then they shouldn't be allowed to join. It doesn't matter what parts you have</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sayoria 07/26/17 9:41:13 AM #70:	thelovefist posted... Since most current evidence suggests that most of those that are transgender suffer from the psychiatric disorder gender dysphoria, it seems reasonable to limit their ability to access weapons that can harm themselves or others. What reports in the military have proven that transgender service members are a threat? I have never heard of anyone transgender going in or out of the military with weapon aggression. --- i.imgur.com/OBxVnqJ.png ~ www.azaleasdolls.com/dressupgames/heroine-creator.php i.imgur.com/Pj3WBiE.jpg ~ www.dolldivine.com/sailor-moon-senshi-maker.php <cite>Sayoria posted [p:883623476] in Trump admi... [t:75606299]...</cite> <quote><cite>thelovefist posted...</cite> <quote>Since most current evidence suggests that most of those that are transgender suffer from the psychiatric disorder gender dysphoria, it seems reasonable to limit their ability to access weapons that can harm themselves or others.</quote> What reports in the military have proven that transgender service members are a threat? I have never heard of anyone transgender going in or out of the military with weapon aggression.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gunplagirl 07/26/17 9:42:12 AM #71:	emblem boy posted... How much are these medical costs? Someone wanting to join so that they have the chance for their surgery eventually being paid for doesn't really bother me. Many many people join the military for financial reasons such as the bonuses and college tuition payment, and I don't think people have an issue with that. There are currently monetary reasons for joining, and this would be no different. Since it's the military,, the expenses are lowered compared to civilians because medical insurance has some serious leeway in getting fees down. Civilians would pay $50,000 for all surgeries possible. The military could get that all cut down to maybe 20-30k at most. And they could even get them to a Thai surgeon for nominally less than any american one and ensure that 20k cap for all surgeries over a month duration. --- Pokemon Moon FC: 1994-2190-5020 IGN: Vanessa <cite>gunplagirl posted [p:883623515] in Trump admi... [t:75606299]...</cite> <quote><cite>emblem boy posted...</cite> <quote>How much are these medical costs? Someone wanting to join so that they have the chance for their surgery eventually being paid for doesn't really bother me. Many many people join the military for financial reasons such as the bonuses and college tuition payment, and I don't think people have an issue with that. There are currently monetary reasons for joining, and this would be no different.</quote> Since it's the military,, the expenses are lowered compared to civilians because medical insurance has some serious leeway in getting fees down. Civilians would pay $50,000 for all surgeries possible. The military could get that all cut down to maybe 20-30k at most. And they could even get them to a Thai surgeon for nominally less than any american one and ensure that 20k cap for all surgeries over a month duration.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DevsBro 07/26/17 9:43:14 AM #72:	I'm p conservative but honestly even I can't figure out the logic behind this. --- http://backloggery.com/devsbro/sig.gif http://i.imgur.com/kU5vu5N.png Never pepper popcorn <cite>DevsBro posted [p:883623562] in Trump admi... [t:75606299]...</cite> <quote>I'm p conservative but honestly even I can't figure out the logic behind this.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thelovefist 07/26/17 9:43:25 AM #73:	Sayoria posted... thelovefist posted... Since most current evidence suggests that most of those that are transgender suffer from the psychiatric disorder gender dysphoria, it seems reasonable to limit their ability to access weapons that can harm themselves or others. What reports in the military have proven that transgender service members are a threat? I have never heard of anyone transgender going in or out of the military with weapon aggression. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normalcy_bias --- N/A <cite>thelovefist posted [p:883623568] in Trump admi... [t:75606299]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sayoria posted...</cite> <quote><cite>thelovefist posted...</cite> <quote>Since most current evidence suggests that most of those that are transgender suffer from the psychiatric disorder gender dysphoria, it seems reasonable to limit their ability to access weapons that can harm themselves or others.</quote> What reports in the military have proven that transgender service members are a threat? I have never heard of anyone transgender going in or out of the military with weapon aggression.</quote> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normalcy_bias</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
k darkfire 07/26/17 9:43:30 AM #74:	Teh military is designed to kill people. Your feelings are irrelevant. Why do you people hate AMerica so much? Why do we allow mental disabled people in? We shouldn't. <cite>k darkfire posted [p:883623572] in Trump admi... [t:75606299]...</cite> <quote>Teh military is designed to kill people. Your feelings are irrelevant. Why do you people hate AMerica so much? Why do we allow mental disabled people in? We shouldn't.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mark_DeRosa 07/26/17 9:43:51 AM #75:	gunplagirl posted... emblem boy posted... How much are these medical costs? Someone wanting to join so that they have the chance for their surgery eventually being paid for doesn't really bother me. Many many people join the military for financial reasons such as the bonuses and college tuition payment, and I don't think people have an issue with that. There are currently monetary reasons for joining, and this would be no different. Since it's the military,, the expenses are lowered compared to civilians because medical insurance has some serious leeway in getting fees down. Civilians would pay $50,000 for all surgeries possible. The military could get that all cut down to maybe 20-30k at most. And they could even get them to a Thai surgeon for nominally less than any american one and ensure that 20k cap for all surgeries over a month duration. You should apply this thought backwards. Anything the military does is going to cost more --- Steve Nash \| 13\| Phoenix Suns \| PPG: 16.9 \| RPG: 3.60 \| APG 11.3 \| EFF: +22.96 http://www.gifsoup.com/view3/2283379/dance-o.gif <cite>Mark_DeRosa posted [p:883623590] in Trump admi... [t:75606299]...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>emblem boy posted...</cite> <quote>How much are these medical costs? Someone wanting to join so that they have the chance for their surgery eventually being paid for doesn't really bother me. Many many people join the military for financial reasons such as the bonuses and college tuition payment, and I don't think people have an issue with that. There are currently monetary reasons for joining, and this would be no different.</quote> Since it's the military,, the expenses are lowered compared to civilians because medical insurance has some serious leeway in getting fees down. Civilians would pay $50,000 for all surgeries possible. The military could get that all cut down to maybe 20-30k at most. And they could even get them to a Thai surgeon for nominally less than any american one and ensure that 20k cap for all surgeries over a month duration.</quote> You should apply this thought backwards. Anything the military does is going to cost more</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thelovefist 07/26/17 9:43:53 AM #76:	DevsBro posted... I'm p conservative but honestly even I can't figure out the logic behind this. thelovefist posted... Since most current evidence suggests that most of those that are transgender suffer from the psychiatric disorder gender dysphoria, it seems reasonable to limit their ability to access weapons that can harm themselves or others. --- N/A <cite>thelovefist posted [p:883623592] in Trump admi... [t:75606299]...</cite> <quote><cite>DevsBro posted...</cite> <quote>I'm p conservative but honestly even I can't figure out the logic behind this.</quote> <cite>thelovefist posted...</cite> <quote>Since most current evidence suggests that most of those that are transgender suffer from the psychiatric disorder gender dysphoria, it seems reasonable to limit their ability to access weapons that can harm themselves or others.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 07/26/17 9:43:58 AM #77:	Sayoria posted... It's not right to pull a "Don't ask don't tell" on transgender individuals. If we aren't even allowed to speak of it within the military, that's not just outright discrimination. That is revoking someone like me from fighting for the country that once gave me a freedom. But of course, those freedoms to aid my country are being revoked now. My protections within the schooling systems are being revoked. All care with this administration towards people like me are out the window. I'm sorry Admiral. You know how I stand on even grounds typically. This is just bullshit. If you want to serve your country, it should be your choice to do it. I'm just as American as anyone else on CE or in this country. Fuck this administration. You're an American who has a medical condition. This is not offensive or an insult, and I have absolutely no issue with you as a person, but it is a reality. Being transgender is not the same as being gay, black, a woman, or anything else that just happens to be a characteristic of someone. It's a condition that requires things like hormone treatments (which might not easily be available if you're stationed in places like Afghanistan) and which also causes you to have rates of depression and suicide that are much higher than the population average, which is incredibly dangerous in the already high-stress, depression-prone positions in the military. People with all types of medical conditions are not allowed to serve in the military. This is no different. --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:883623599] in Trump admi... [t:75606299]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sayoria posted...</cite> <quote>It's not right to pull a "Don't ask don't tell" on transgender individuals. If we aren't even allowed to speak of it within the military, that's not just outright discrimination. That is revoking someone like me from fighting for the country that once gave me a freedom. But of course, those freedoms to aid my country are being revoked now. My protections within the schooling systems are being revoked. All care with this administration towards people like me are out the window. I'm sorry Admiral. You know how I stand on even grounds typically. This is just bullshit. If you want to serve your country, it should be your choice to do it. I'm just as American as anyone else on CE or in this country. Fuck this administration.</quote> You're an American who has a medical condition. This is not offensive or an insult, and I have absolutely no issue with you as a person, but it is a reality. Being transgender is not the same as being gay, black, a woman, or anything else that just happens to be a characteristic of someone. It's a condition that requires things like hormone treatments (which might not easily be available if you're stationed in places like Afghanistan) and which also causes you to have rates of depression and suicide that are much higher than the population average, which is incredibly dangerous in the already high-stress, depression-prone positions in the military. People with all types of medical conditions are not allowed to serve in the military. This is no different.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 07/26/17 9:44:31 AM #78:	https://twitter.com/jonathanvswan/status/890202683721863168 --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:883623618] in Trump admi... [t:75606299]...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/jonathanvswan/status/890202683721863168</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
voldothegr8 07/26/17 9:44:54 AM #79:	The Admiral posted... Sayoria posted... It's not right to pull a "Don't ask don't tell" on transgender individuals. If we aren't even allowed to speak of it within the military, that's not just outright discrimination. That is revoking someone like me from fighting for the country that once gave me a freedom. But of course, those freedoms to aid my country are being revoked now. My protections within the schooling systems are being revoked. All care with this administration towards people like me are out the window. I'm sorry Admiral. You know how I stand on even grounds typically. This is just bullshit. If you want to serve your country, it should be your choice to do it. I'm just as American as anyone else on CE or in this country. Fuck this administration. You're an American who has a medical condition. This is not offensive or an insult, and I have absolutely no issue with you as a person, but it is a reality. Being transgender is not the same as being gay, black, a woman, or anything else that just happens to be a characteristic of someone. It's a condition that requires things like hormone treatments (which might not easily be available if you're stationed in places like Afghanistan) and which also causes you to have rates of depression and suicide that are much higher than the population average, which is incredibly dangerous in the already high-stress, depression-prone positions in the military. People with all types of medical conditions are not allowed to serve in the military. This is no different. Preach! --- Oda break tracker 2017- 5 (2) Super Mario Maker Profile: 1237-0000-0073-02FE <cite>voldothegr8 posted [p:883623629] in Trump admi... [t:75606299]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sayoria posted...</cite> <quote>It's not right to pull a "Don't ask don't tell" on transgender individuals. If we aren't even allowed to speak of it within the military, that's not just outright discrimination. That is revoking someone like me from fighting for the country that once gave me a freedom. But of course, those freedoms to aid my country are being revoked now. My protections within the schooling systems are being revoked. All care with this administration towards people like me are out the window. I'm sorry Admiral. You know how I stand on even grounds typically. This is just bullshit. If you want to serve your country, it should be your choice to do it. I'm just as American as anyone else on CE or in this country. Fuck this administration.</quote> You're an American who has a medical condition. This is not offensive or an insult, and I have absolutely no issue with you as a person, but it is a reality. Being transgender is not the same as being gay, black, a woman, or anything else that just happens to be a characteristic of someone. It's a condition that requires things like hormone treatments (which might not easily be available if you're stationed in places like Afghanistan) and which also causes you to have rates of depression and suicide that are much higher than the population average, which is incredibly dangerous in the already high-stress, depression-prone positions in the military. People with all types of medical conditions are not allowed to serve in the military. This is no different.</quote> Preach!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sayoria 07/26/17 9:45:08 AM #80:	thelovefist posted... Sayoria posted... thelovefist posted... Since most current evidence suggests that most of those that are transgender suffer from the psychiatric disorder gender dysphoria, it seems reasonable to limit their ability to access weapons that can harm themselves or others. What reports in the military have proven that transgender service members are a threat? I have never heard of anyone transgender going in or out of the military with weapon aggression. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normalcy_bias You know, maybe we should euthanize all dangerous animals in the wild. Never know when one will run into society and just attack a city. --- i.imgur.com/OBxVnqJ.png ~ www.azaleasdolls.com/dressupgames/heroine-creator.php i.imgur.com/Pj3WBiE.jpg ~ www.dolldivine.com/sailor-moon-senshi-maker.php <cite>Sayoria posted [p:883623639] in Trump admi... [t:75606299]...</cite> <quote><cite>thelovefist posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sayoria posted...</cite> <quote><cite>thelovefist posted...</cite> <quote>Since most current evidence suggests that most of those that are transgender suffer from the psychiatric disorder gender dysphoria, it seems reasonable to limit their ability to access weapons that can harm themselves or others.</quote> What reports in the military have proven that transgender service members are a threat? I have never heard of anyone transgender going in or out of the military with weapon aggression.</quote> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normalcy_bias</quote> You know, maybe we should euthanize all dangerous animals in the wild. Never know when one will run into society and just attack a city.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OpheliaAdenade 07/26/17 9:45:30 AM #81:	The Admiral posted... You're an American who has a medical condition. This is not offensive or an insult, and I have absolutely no issue with you as a person, but it is a reality. Being transgender is not the same as being gay, black, a woman, or anything else that just happens to be a characteristic of someone. It's a condition that requires things like hormone treatments (which might not easily be available if you're stationed in places like Afghanistan) and which also causes you to have rates of depression and suicide that are much higher than the population average, which is incredibly dangerous in the already high-stress, depression-prone positions in the military.People with all types of medical conditions are not allowed to serve in the military. This is no different. I actually agree with the admiral for once. >_> what is the world coming to. --- http://imgur.com/Q6Qj55q <cite>OpheliaAdenade posted [p:883623655] in Trump admi... [t:75606299]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>You're an American who has a medical condition. This is not offensive or an insult, and I have absolutely no issue with you as a person, but it is a reality. Being transgender is not the same as being gay, black, a woman, or anything else that just happens to be a characteristic of someone. It's a condition that requires things like hormone treatments (which might not easily be available if you're stationed in places like Afghanistan) and which also causes you to have rates of depression and suicide that are much higher than the population average, which is incredibly dangerous in the already high-stress, depression-prone positions in the military.People with all types of medical conditions are not allowed to serve in the military. This is no different.</quote> I actually agree with the admiral for once. >_> what is the world coming to.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Freddie_Mercury 07/26/17 9:45:40 AM #83:	Our military must be focused on decisive and overwhelming victory what happened to defeating ISIS in his first 100 days --- I'm a sex machine ready to reload... http://i.imgur.com/7GPFCqY.gifv http://i.imgur.com/bfxtwGf.jpg <cite>Freddie_Mercury posted [p:883623664] in Trump admi... [t:75606299]...</cite> <quote><quote>Our military must be focused on decisive and overwhelming victory</quote> what happened to defeating ISIS in his first 100 days</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tremain07 07/26/17 9:45:48 AM #84:	voldothegr8 posted... Preach! Make sure you wipe your mouth afterwards. --- I got nothing <cite>tremain07 posted [p:883623669] in Trump admi... [t:75606299]...</cite> <quote><cite>voldothegr8 posted...</cite> <quote>Preach! </quote> Make sure you wipe your mouth afterwards.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gunplagirl 07/26/17 9:47:26 AM #85:	Mark_DeRosa posted... gunplagirl posted... emblem boy posted... How much are these medical costs? Someone wanting to join so that they have the chance for their surgery eventually being paid for doesn't really bother me. Many many people join the military for financial reasons such as the bonuses and college tuition payment, and I don't think people have an issue with that. There are currently monetary reasons for joining, and this would be no different. Since it's the military,, the expenses are lowered compared to civilians because medical insurance has some serious leeway in getting fees down. Civilians would pay $50,000 for all surgeries possible. The military could get that all cut down to maybe 20-30k at most. And they could even get them to a Thai surgeon for nominally less than any american one and ensure that 20k cap for all surgeries over a month duration. You should apply this thought backwards. Anything the military does is going to cost more I worked in medical billing. The military might take ages to get you coverage through the VA but for any sort of specialist, they'll spare no expense and usually save money because they pull so much weight. Getting costs down is the primary function of insurance. --- Pokemon Moon FC: 1994-2190-5020 IGN: Vanessa <cite>gunplagirl posted [p:883623718] in Trump admi... [t:75606299]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mark_DeRosa posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>emblem boy posted...</cite> <quote>How much are these medical costs? Someone wanting to join so that they have the chance for their surgery eventually being paid for doesn't really bother me. Many many people join the military for financial reasons such as the bonuses and college tuition payment, and I don't think people have an issue with that. There are currently monetary reasons for joining, and this would be no different.</quote> Since it's the military,, the expenses are lowered compared to civilians because medical insurance has some serious leeway in getting fees down. Civilians would pay $50,000 for all surgeries possible. The military could get that all cut down to maybe 20-30k at most. And they could even get them to a Thai surgeon for nominally less than any american one and ensure that 20k cap for all surgeries over a month duration.</quote> You should apply this thought backwards. Anything the military does is going to cost more</quote> I worked in medical billing. The military might take ages to get you coverage through the VA but for any sort of specialist, they'll spare no expense and usually save money because they pull so much weight. Getting costs down is the primary function of insurance.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sayoria 07/26/17 9:47:52 AM #86:	The Admiral posted... Sayoria posted... It's not right to pull a "Don't ask don't tell" on transgender individuals. If we aren't even allowed to speak of it within the military, that's not just outright discrimination. That is revoking someone like me from fighting for the country that once gave me a freedom. But of course, those freedoms to aid my country are being revoked now. My protections within the schooling systems are being revoked. All care with this administration towards people like me are out the window. I'm sorry Admiral. You know how I stand on even grounds typically. This is just bullshit. If you want to serve your country, it should be your choice to do it. I'm just as American as anyone else on CE or in this country. Fuck this administration. You're an American who has a medical condition. This is not offensive or an insult, and I have absolutely no issue with you as a person, but it is a reality. Being transgender is not the same as being gay, black, a woman, or anything else that just happens to be a characteristic of someone. It's a condition that requires things like hormone treatments (which might not easily be available if you're stationed in places like Afghanistan) and which also causes you to have rates of depression and suicide that are much higher than the population average, which is incredibly dangerous in the already high-stress, depression-prone positions in the military. People with all types of medical conditions are not allowed to serve in the military. This is no different. This "medical condition" does not in any way (nor has it ever) hindered a transgender individuals ability to handle a firearm. I want proof that this is a problem within the military. Again as a resident and civilian of this nation, it is my (and anyone else's) right to fight to protect the freedoms of the country. (Well, the freedoms we used to have now apparently) --- i.imgur.com/OBxVnqJ.png ~ www.azaleasdolls.com/dressupgames/heroine-creator.php i.imgur.com/Pj3WBiE.jpg ~ www.dolldivine.com/sailor-moon-senshi-maker.php <cite>Sayoria posted [p:883623730] in Trump admi... [t:75606299]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sayoria posted...</cite> <quote>It's not right to pull a "Don't ask don't tell" on transgender individuals. If we aren't even allowed to speak of it within the military, that's not just outright discrimination. That is revoking someone like me from fighting for the country that once gave me a freedom. But of course, those freedoms to aid my country are being revoked now. My protections within the schooling systems are being revoked. All care with this administration towards people like me are out the window. I'm sorry Admiral. You know how I stand on even grounds typically. This is just bullshit. If you want to serve your country, it should be your choice to do it. I'm just as American as anyone else on CE or in this country. Fuck this administration.</quote> You're an American who has a medical condition. This is not offensive or an insult, and I have absolutely no issue with you as a person, but it is a reality. Being transgender is not the same as being gay, black, a woman, or anything else that just happens to be a characteristic of someone. It's a condition that requires things like hormone treatments (which might not easily be available if you're stationed in places like Afghanistan) and which also causes you to have rates of depression and suicide that are much higher than the population average, which is incredibly dangerous in the already high-stress, depression-prone positions in the military. People with all types of medical conditions are not allowed to serve in the military. This is no different.</quote> This "medical condition" does not in any way (nor has it ever) hindered a transgender individuals ability to handle a firearm. I want proof that this is a problem within the military. Again as a resident and civilian of this nation, it is my (and anyone else's) right to fight to protect the freedoms of the country. (Well, the freedoms we used to have now apparently)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thelovefist 07/26/17 9:47:56 AM #87:	gunplagirl posted... thelovefist posted... gunplagirl posted... thelovefist posted... Since most current evidence suggests that most of those that are transgender suffer from the psychiatric disorder gender dysphoria, it seems reasonable to limit their ability to access weapons that can harm themselves or others. Literally half my friends list on Facebook has guns. See, the people who need guns most are minorities like trans women who need to be able to protect themselves. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism You're so incredibly dense at times "I have nothing so I am just going to insult you" --- N/A <cite>thelovefist posted [p:883623735] in Trump admi... [t:75606299]...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>thelovefist posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>thelovefist posted...</cite> <quote>Since most current evidence suggests that most of those that are transgender suffer from the psychiatric disorder gender dysphoria, it seems reasonable to limit their ability to access weapons that can harm themselves or others.</quote> Literally half my friends list on Facebook has guns. See, the people who need guns most are minorities like trans women who need to be able to protect themselves.</quote> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism</quote> You're so incredibly dense at times</quote> "I have nothing so I am just going to insult you"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Malcolm_Caradoc 07/26/17 9:48:06 AM #88:	thelovefist posted... Since most current evidence suggests that most of those that are transgender suffer from the psychiatric disorder gender dysphoria, it seems reasonable to limit their ability to access weapons that can harm themselves or others. Show me WHERE in the DSM it's considered a psychiatric disorder lovefist. Show me ANY of the evidence. All the evidence goes in the OPPOSITE direction, that it's something people are born with and can't change, but here you are spreading misinfo. Maybe cause youre uninformed, maybe because youve got an agenda, but either way, you're SUPER shitty for stigmatizing transgender people for literally no fucking reason by suggesting they're naturally violent. You have NOTHING to rest that assumption on. --- M. <cite>Malcolm_Caradoc posted [p:883623742] in Trump admi... [t:75606299]...</cite> <quote><cite>thelovefist posted...</cite> <quote>Since most current evidence suggests that most of those that are transgender suffer from the psychiatric disorder gender dysphoria, it seems reasonable to limit their ability to access weapons that can harm themselves or others.</quote> Show me WHERE in the DSM it's considered a psychiatric disorder lovefist. Show me ANY of the evidence. All the evidence goes in the OPPOSITE direction, that it's something people are born with and can't change, but here you are spreading misinfo. Maybe cause youre uninformed, maybe because youve got an agenda, but either way, you're SUPER shitty for stigmatizing transgender people for literally no fucking reason by suggesting they're naturally violent. You have NOTHING to rest that assumption on.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sativa_Rose 07/26/17 9:48:47 AM #89:	Lol @ Trump thinking that this is at all something he should be spending time and effort on... --- I may not go down in history, but I will go down on your sister. <cite>Sativa_Rose posted [p:883623765] in Trump admi... [t:75606299]...</cite> <quote>Lol @ Trump thinking that this is at all something he should be spending time and effort on...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LightningAce11 07/26/17 9:49:05 AM #90:	OpheliaAdenade posted... The Admiral posted... You're an American who has a medical condition. This is not offensive or an insult, and I have absolutely no issue with you as a person, but it is a reality. Being transgender is not the same as being gay, black, a woman, or anything else that just happens to be a characteristic of someone. It's a condition that requires things like hormone treatments (which might not easily be available if you're stationed in places like Afghanistan) and which also causes you to have rates of depression and suicide that are much higher than the population average, which is incredibly dangerous in the already high-stress, depression-prone positions in the military.People with all types of medical conditions are not allowed to serve in the military. This is no different. I actually agree with the admiral for once. >_> what is the world coming to. It's what happens when he actually states his point in a civil and educational manner. Something I wish he'd do more often, but this board is a cesspool so he doesn't bother. --- "I'm an atheist too but still believe in hell. That's where you're headed pal." - Mr_Karate_II <cite>LightningAce11 posted [p:883623780] in Trump admi... [t:75606299]...</cite> <quote><cite>OpheliaAdenade posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>You're an American who has a medical condition. This is not offensive or an insult, and I have absolutely no issue with you as a person, but it is a reality. Being transgender is not the same as being gay, black, a woman, or anything else that just happens to be a characteristic of someone. It's a condition that requires things like hormone treatments (which might not easily be available if you're stationed in places like Afghanistan) and which also causes you to have rates of depression and suicide that are much higher than the population average, which is incredibly dangerous in the already high-stress, depression-prone positions in the military.People with all types of medical conditions are not allowed to serve in the military. This is no different.</quote> I actually agree with the admiral for once. >_> what is the world coming to.</quote> It's what happens when he actually states his point in a civil and educational manner. Something I wish he'd do more often, but this board is a cesspool so he doesn't bother.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
treewojima 07/26/17 9:49:36 AM #91:	So, will existing members of the military get discharged? Will they continue to receive VA benefits? <cite>treewojima posted [p:883623798] in Trump admi... [t:75606299]...</cite> <quote>So, will existing members of the military get discharged? Will they continue to receive VA benefits?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 07/26/17 9:49:52 AM #92:	Sayoria posted... This "medical condition" does not in any way (nor has it ever) hindered a transgender individuals ability to handle a firearm. What does this medical condition do if you're stationed in a place where you don't have access to hormone treatments for six months? --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:883623809] in Trump admi... [t:75606299]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sayoria posted...</cite> <quote>This "medical condition" does not in any way (nor has it ever) hindered a transgender individuals ability to handle a firearm.</quote> What does this medical condition do if you're stationed in a place where you don't have access to hormone treatments for six months?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thelovefist 07/26/17 9:50:15 AM #93:	Malcolm_Caradoc posted... thelovefist posted... Since most current evidence suggests that most of those that are transgender suffer from the psychiatric disorder gender dysphoria, it seems reasonable to limit their ability to access weapons that can harm themselves or others. Show me WHERE in the DSM it's considered a psychiatric disorder lovefist. Show me ANY of the evidence. All the evidence goes in the OPPOSITE direction, that it's something people are born with and can't change, but here you are spreading misinfo. Maybe cause youre uninformed, maybe because youve got an agenda, but either way, you're SUPER shitty for stigmatizing transgender people for literally no fucking reason by suggesting they're naturally violent. You have NOTHING to rest that assumption on. http://dsm.psychiatryonline.org/doi/abs/10.1176/appi.books.9780890425596.dsm14 --- N/A <cite>thelovefist posted [p:883623814] in Trump admi... [t:75606299]...</cite> <quote><cite>Malcolm_Caradoc posted...</cite> <quote><cite>thelovefist posted...</cite> <quote>Since most current evidence suggests that most of those that are transgender suffer from the psychiatric disorder gender dysphoria, it seems reasonable to limit their ability to access weapons that can harm themselves or others.</quote> Show me WHERE in the DSM it's considered a psychiatric disorder lovefist. Show me ANY of the evidence. All the evidence goes in the OPPOSITE direction, that it's something people are born with and can't change, but here you are spreading misinfo. Maybe cause youre uninformed, maybe because youve got an agenda, but either way, you're SUPER shitty for stigmatizing transgender people for literally no fucking reason by suggesting they're naturally violent. You have NOTHING to rest that assumption on.</quote> http://dsm.psychiatryonline.org/doi/abs/10.1176/appi.books.9780890425596.dsm14</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CEs_EFG 07/26/17 9:50:35 AM #94:	Mark_DeRosa posted... emblem boy posted... Which medical costs? If I recall correctly. I just had a transgender class at the range two months ago. Army would pay for gender reassignment therapy, doctors, and everything else this, it's disgusting how much the military was about to pay for all of it --- http://imgur.com/a/GCAyA http://i.imgur.com/8ImkFTt.png http://i.imgur.com/iVota.gif http://i.imgur.com/vIs64.gif <cite>CEs_EFG posted [p:883623827] in Trump admi... [t:75606299]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mark_DeRosa posted...</cite> <quote><cite>emblem boy posted...</cite> <quote>Which medical costs?</quote> If I recall correctly. I just had a transgender class at the range two months ago. Army would pay for gender reassignment therapy, doctors, and everything else</quote> this, it's disgusting how much the military was about to pay for all of it</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
voldothegr8 07/26/17 9:50:55 AM #95:	tremain07 posted... voldothegr8 posted... Preach! Make sure you wipe your mouth afterwards. Yeah I wouldn't want to waste a single drop of your life sustaining tears. Soooo good. --- Oda break tracker 2017- 5 (2) Super Mario Maker Profile: 1237-0000-0073-02FE <cite>voldothegr8 posted [p:883623838] in Trump admi... [t:75606299]...</cite> <quote><cite>tremain07 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>voldothegr8 posted...</cite> <quote>Preach! </quote> Make sure you wipe your mouth afterwards.</quote> Yeah I wouldn't want to waste a single drop of your life sustaining tears. Soooo good.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hollow_shrine 07/26/17 9:51:19 AM #96:	Ignorant fuck shitposts about things he knows nothing about... ...Only he's also the president, and his example inspires others to contribute to the shitstorm. Sayoria posted... What reports in the military have proven that transgender service members are a threat? I have never heard of anyone transgender going in or out of the military with weapon aggression. That's because, just like stats about transwomen assaulting little girls in bathrooms, they don't exist. --- https://i.imgtc.com/72JF7CA.jpg (by mark2000) 14 Transwomen of color have been murdered since 1/1/2017 <cite>hollow_shrine posted [p:883623854] in Trump admi... [t:75606299]...</cite> <quote>Ignorant fuck shitposts about things he knows nothing about... ...Only he's also the president, and his example inspires others to contribute to the shitstorm. <cite>Sayoria posted...</cite> <quote>What reports in the military have proven that transgender service members are a threat? I have never heard of anyone transgender going in or out of the military with weapon aggression.</quote> That's because, just like stats about transwomen assaulting little girls in bathrooms, they don't exist.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MARKINGRAM22 07/26/17 9:51:21 AM #97:	tremain07 posted... Gays and Women are still barely accepted in the military as well. Remember, the GOP is trying to bring back don't ask, don't tell and somehow expect women to be able to meet the male standards for military training even through a woman's body is pretty different from a man's for them to have the same training regimen. So it's not at all surprising tome that they want it to return to being a boy's club of like minded individuals Hell, in the military there's a racial divide as well,it's a perfect breeding ground for tribalism. This is complete horseshit --- "That man practices Islam. Are you happy he was taken out since according to you he believes what terrorists do?" -VipaGTS to me <cite>MARKINGRAM22 posted [p:883623857] in Trump admi... [t:75606299]...</cite> <quote><cite>tremain07 posted...</cite> <quote>Gays and Women are still barely accepted in the military as well. Remember, the GOP is trying to bring back don't ask, don't tell and somehow expect women to be able to meet the male standards for military training even through a woman's body is pretty different from a man's for them to have the same training regimen. So it's not at all surprising tome that they want it to return to being a boy's club of like minded individuals Hell, in the military there's a racial divide as well,it's a perfect breeding ground for tribalism.</quote> This is complete horseshit</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gunplagirl 07/26/17 9:51:23 AM #98:	Sayoria posted... The Admiral posted... Sayoria posted... It's not right to pull a "Don't ask don't tell" on transgender individuals. If we aren't even allowed to speak of it within the military, that's not just outright discrimination. That is revoking someone like me from fighting for the country that once gave me a freedom. But of course, those freedoms to aid my country are being revoked now. My protections within the schooling systems are being revoked. All care with this administration towards people like me are out the window. I'm sorry Admiral. You know how I stand on even grounds typically. This is just bullshit. If you want to serve your country, it should be your choice to do it. I'm just as American as anyone else on CE or in this country. Fuck this administration. You're an American who has a medical condition. This is not offensive or an insult, and I have absolutely no issue with you as a person, but it is a reality. Being transgender is not the same as being gay, black, a woman, or anything else that just happens to be a characteristic of someone. It's a condition that requires things like hormone treatments (which might not easily be available if you're stationed in places like Afghanistan) and which also causes you to have rates of depression and suicide that are much higher than the population average, which is incredibly dangerous in the already high-stress, depression-prone positions in the military. People with all types of medical conditions are not allowed to serve in the military. This is no different. This "medical condition" does not in any way (nor has it ever) hindered a transgender individuals ability to handle a firearm. I want proof that this is a problem within the military. Again as a resident and civilian of this nation, it is my (and anyone else's) right to fight to protect the freedoms of the country. (Well, the freedoms we used to have now apparently) I can pull up like 5articles and 2 phone numbers of former spec ops or marines who transitioned afterwards. And one of those numbers is of a close friend and she still trains with guns weekly. --- Pokemon Moon FC: 1994-2190-5020 IGN: Vanessa <cite>gunplagirl posted [p:883623859] in Trump admi... [t:75606299]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sayoria posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sayoria posted...</cite> <quote>It's not right to pull a "Don't ask don't tell" on transgender individuals. If we aren't even allowed to speak of it within the military, that's not just outright discrimination. That is revoking someone like me from fighting for the country that once gave me a freedom. But of course, those freedoms to aid my country are being revoked now. My protections within the schooling systems are being revoked. All care with this administration towards people like me are out the window. I'm sorry Admiral. You know how I stand on even grounds typically. This is just bullshit. If you want to serve your country, it should be your choice to do it. I'm just as American as anyone else on CE or in this country. Fuck this administration.</quote> You're an American who has a medical condition. This is not offensive or an insult, and I have absolutely no issue with you as a person, but it is a reality. Being transgender is not the same as being gay, black, a woman, or anything else that just happens to be a characteristic of someone. It's a condition that requires things like hormone treatments (which might not easily be available if you're stationed in places like Afghanistan) and which also causes you to have rates of depression and suicide that are much higher than the population average, which is incredibly dangerous in the already high-stress, depression-prone positions in the military. People with all types of medical conditions are not allowed to serve in the military. This is no different.</quote> This "medical condition" does not in any way (nor has it ever) hindered a transgender individuals ability to handle a firearm. I want proof that this is a problem within the military. Again as a resident and civilian of this nation, it is my (and anyone else's) right to fight to protect the freedoms of the country. (Well, the freedoms we used to have now apparently)</quote> I can pull up like 5articles and 2 phone numbers of former spec ops or marines who transitioned afterwards. And one of those numbers is of a close friend and she still trains with guns weekly.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Apocalyptic 07/26/17 9:51:29 AM #99:	The Admiral posted... Sayoria posted... It's not right to pull a "Don't ask don't tell" on transgender individuals. If we aren't even allowed to speak of it within the military, that's not just outright discrimination. That is revoking someone like me from fighting for the country that once gave me a freedom. But of course, those freedoms to aid my country are being revoked now. My protections within the schooling systems are being revoked. All care with this administration towards people like me are out the window. I'm sorry Admiral. You know how I stand on even grounds typically. This is just bullshit. If you want to serve your country, it should be your choice to do it. I'm just as American as anyone else on CE or in this country. Fuck this administration. You're an American who has a medical condition. This is not offensive or an insult, and I have absolutely no issue with you as a person, but it is a reality. Being transgender is not the same as being gay, black, a woman, or anything else that just happens to be a characteristic of someone. It's a condition that requires things like hormone treatments (which might not easily be available if you're stationed in places like Afghanistan) and which also causes you to have rates of depression and suicide that are much higher than the population average, which is incredibly dangerous in the already high-stress, depression-prone positions in the military. People with all types of medical conditions are not allowed to serve in the military. This is no different. This post was very well made. Can't argue with this one. --- ... <cite>Apocalyptic posted [p:883623865] in Trump admi... [t:75606299]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sayoria posted...</cite> <quote>It's not right to pull a "Don't ask don't tell" on transgender individuals. If we aren't even allowed to speak of it within the military, that's not just outright discrimination. That is revoking someone like me from fighting for the country that once gave me a freedom. But of course, those freedoms to aid my country are being revoked now. My protections within the schooling systems are being revoked. All care with this administration towards people like me are out the window. I'm sorry Admiral. You know how I stand on even grounds typically. This is just bullshit. If you want to serve your country, it should be your choice to do it. I'm just as American as anyone else on CE or in this country. Fuck this administration.</quote> You're an American who has a medical condition. This is not offensive or an insult, and I have absolutely no issue with you as a person, but it is a reality. Being transgender is not the same as being gay, black, a woman, or anything else that just happens to be a characteristic of someone. It's a condition that requires things like hormone treatments (which might not easily be available if you're stationed in places like Afghanistan) and which also causes you to have rates of depression and suicide that are much higher than the population average, which is incredibly dangerous in the already high-stress, depression-prone positions in the military. People with all types of medical conditions are not allowed to serve in the military. This is no different.</quote> This post was very well made. Can't argue with this one.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tremain07 07/26/17 9:51:55 AM #100:	I still despise him and hate him so much I usually get bloody noses in sheer anger, I can't describe it,I just fucking hate admiral and I don't care if it really does end up killing me, I just hate, hate,hate,hate,hate,hate,hate, hate him and will never stop hating him. Ever. This is the only thing I'll ever accept being called crazy on because I feel like it's crazy but I can't stop myself. I just can't it's like a drug of hatred. --- I got nothing <cite>tremain07 posted [p:883623877] in Trump admi... [t:75606299]...</cite> <quote>I still despise him and hate him so much I usually get bloody noses in sheer anger, I can't describe it,I just fucking hate admiral and I don't care if it really does end up killing me, I just hate, hate,hate,hate,hate,hate,hate, hate him and will never stop hating him. Ever. This is the only thing I'll ever accept being called crazy on because I feel like it's crazy but I can't stop myself. I just can't it's like a drug of hatred.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Trigg3rH4ppy 07/26/17 9:53:43 AM #102:	tremain07 posted... and somehow expect women to be able to meet the male standards for military training absolutely nothing wrong with that either. they aren't the male standards, they're just the standards. --- ~A little nonsense, now and then, is relished by the wisest men ~ TWSSted since~ 3/27/12 https://i.imgur.com/zlaENmx.png <cite>Trigg3rH4ppy posted [p:883623957] in Trump admi... [t:75606299]...</cite> <quote><cite>tremain07 posted...</cite> <quote> and somehow expect women to be able to meet the male standards for military training</quote> absolutely nothing wrong with that either. they aren't the male standards, they're just the standards.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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