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Jakyl25
07/29/17 5:06:34 PM
#352:


Kenri posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
At what point do they start thinking maybe President Pence isn't such a bad idea?

And alienate all the swing voters they picked up this last election? They have to at least wait until after the midterms for that.


Their jobs are worth their dignity I guess
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MalcolmMasher
07/29/17 5:39:51 PM
#353:


At what point do they start thinking maybe President Pence isn't such a bad idea?

The "two terms per Prez" limit rounds to the nearest term, so that's an incentive for Republicans to wait until Trump has served two years before they bring Pence in.
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LordoftheMorons
07/29/17 5:41:51 PM
#354:


I mean

If they think Pence getting reelected two times is a serious possibility
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SupremeZero
07/29/17 5:42:09 PM
#355:


MalcolmMasher posted...
At what point do they start thinking maybe President Pence isn't such a bad idea?

The "two terms per Prez" limit rounds to the nearest term, so that's an incentive for Republicans to wait until Trump has served two years before they bring Pence in.

Uh, if they're high, maybe. Pence is essentially unelectable. Appeals to basically no one, Indiana hates him, and he was about to get kicked out by his own party in favor of a democrat. If they want to get as much time of him as they can, they want it ASAP.
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MalcolmMasher
07/29/17 5:53:19 PM
#356:


I personally don't expect Pence to be elected President once, let alone twice, but I am neither a Republican nor a member of Congress, and I think it's likely that some of the people who are both are optimistic about his chances.

(Also, "evangelicals" are not "basically no one".)
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Reg
07/29/17 5:59:35 PM
#357:


MalcolmMasher posted...
(Also, "evangelicals" are not "basically no one".)

The country would be genuinely better off if they were.
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HaRRicH
07/29/17 6:28:18 PM
#358:


Pence may not win the Presidency twice or even once, but we've seen how much incumbents are favored and Pence is gonna wind up looking like a super-Pope compared to Donald (despite the many problems I have with him too). If Republicans like Pence like at all and don't care enough about the harm Donald's currently doing, waiting to impeach Donald until 2019 is an interesting gamble worth considering.
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BowserCuffs
07/29/17 6:29:32 PM
#359:


Considering how much of Indiana is made up of Evangelicals, it's safe to say that Pence isn't really popular even with them.

It's just that fundies tend to have this idea that they'll accept even the worst fundiegelical if it means having at least one fundiegelical in office, even if the entire political spectrum is over-saturated with fundies and evangelicals.
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Paratroopa1
07/29/17 6:31:46 PM
#360:


The thing about Pence that makes him interesting is that he might be the only person who could run for president who is capable of bridging the gap between voters who are Trump loyalists and voters who are never-Trump.
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HaRRicH
07/29/17 6:32:44 PM
#361:


https://twitter.com/brianbeutler/status/891390753485840384

Obama rule allowed Hill employees to port their federal premium contribution into DC exchange. Trump's gonna uninsure a bunch of staffers.
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HaRRicH
07/30/17 12:57:27 AM
#362:


My logs for March and April are looking pretty bare. Here's March:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1T-5TVfVEt-0iGtkNn5uSo_oU_zl-weDzLyFvMRZV4uo/edit?usp=drivesdk

What's missing?


One sweet picture from March continues to ring loud and clear after this past week:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BSCN22IF-DQ/?hl=en

Before voting on the Affordable Care Act in 2010, President Obama met with many members of Congress on both sides of the aisle over the course of many months. This picture was taken at the end of a multiple hours-long meeting with the entire Republican House caucus in which he responded to dozens of questions and critiques. It was carried live on cable TV.
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TheRock1525
07/30/17 2:09:36 AM
#363:


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DFz0e4AXYAINva2.jpg

Seems about right.
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Eddv
07/30/17 2:37:04 AM
#364:


Jakyl25 posted...
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/891397134662193152

Unless the Republican Senators are total quitters, Repeal & Replace is not dead! Demand another vote before voting on any other bill!


Another vote on what, the same bills? LOL

At what point do they start thinking maybe President Pence isn't such a bad idea?



Far more likely is that Congress just takes power away from the executive. They have the ability to and if Ryan and McConnell wanted to they could turn Trump into a mostly ceremonial role.
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Eddv
07/30/17 2:43:26 AM
#365:


HaRRicH posted...
Pence may not win the Presidency twice or even once, but we've seen how much incumbents are favored and Pence is gonna wind up looking like a super-Pope compared to Donald (despite the many problems I have with him too). If Republicans like Pence like at all and don't care enough about the harm Donald's currently doing, waiting to impeach Donald until 2019 is an interesting gamble worth considering.


Fanfiction time -

Its 2019, Trump is still President and has been served articles of impeachment by, for the sake of a good story, republican controlled House and is in the process of a trial before the senate.

Its January and he is spending all of his time campaigning in Iowa and New Hampshire againdt a surprisingly game John Kasich.

Rumors abound as senators sympathetic to Kasich try to make this a big spectacle led by Lindsey Graham that Pence may be placed on the ticket at the top if Trump is impeached. The proceedings are slow because every Democrat with a pulse sees this as an opportunity to be present and it is difficult to make Quorum for the trial - harder still because Trump will not leave the campaign trail himself without a subpoena.

CNN and MSNBC become the top rated channels on cable regularly beating The walking Dead on Sunday Nights.
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Jakyl25
07/30/17 3:12:11 AM
#366:


The proceedings presided over by Chief Justice Gorsuch, who Trump routinely taunts as owing him his loyalty
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Jakyl25
07/30/17 3:22:15 AM
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kevwaffles
07/30/17 3:25:27 AM
#368:


What the hell does that have to do with Pence?
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LapisLazuli
07/30/17 3:26:20 AM
#369:


The last topic has purged, so you shall never know
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Jakyl25
07/30/17 3:28:01 AM
#370:


You must have missed it when I shared his '90s blog entry about being victimized by the McDonald's marketing machine for Mulan and its liberal propaganda brainwashing our youth
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kevwaffles
07/30/17 3:28:29 AM
#371:


Yeah, I definitely missed that, lol.
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Mr Lasastryke
07/30/17 5:16:03 AM
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Mr Lasastryke
07/30/17 6:29:35 AM
#373:


https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/891397134662193152

wonder what the trump worshipers who went "you lost, get over it" to hillary when she didn't immediately concede defeat to trump think of this.
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Dude_Dexter
07/30/17 6:40:33 AM
#374:


Mr Lasastryke posted...
https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/75607094/883664807


...You see, now stay with me on this, many young men find many young women to be attractive sexually. Many young women find many young men to be attractive sexually. Put them together, in close quarters, for long periods of time, and things will get interesting. Just like they eventually did for young Mulan. Moral of story: women in military, bad idea.


JFC. Is this guy for real?
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TheRock1525
07/30/17 8:38:03 AM
#375:


Nevermind the fact that the vast majority of sexual assault victims in the military are men.
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LordoftheMorons
07/30/17 8:52:01 AM
#376:


Between that quote and the fact that he doesn't allow himself to be in a room alone with a woman who isn't his wife I have to say I'm worried about Mike's self control
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FFDragon
07/30/17 10:21:55 AM
#377:


Jakyl25 posted...
https://twitter.com/JustinRoiland/status/891521911460470784

Mike Pence is going to be so upset


suck it jerry
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red sox 777
07/30/17 12:05:56 PM
#378:


Continuing your fanfiction:

The Senate acquits, failing to achieve a 2/3 majority by a couple of votes. The Tea Party dominates the primary season. Trump clears 350 electoral votes even while losing the popular vote again because of useless landslide losses in CA and NY.

Ryan and McConnell lose their leadership positions, and Congress proceeds to repeal Obamacare without anesthesia, passes big tax cuts for the rich paid for by increasing taxes on the middle class, and huge subsidies for golf course owners. Trump negotiates and the Senate ratifies a formal treaty of alliance with Russia.
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Jakyl25
07/30/17 1:27:56 PM
#379:


http://www.politico.com/story/2017/07/30/senate-obamacare-repeal-mulvaney-241141

Mulvaney said that “yes,” it's official White House policy that the Senate shouldn’t hold a vote on another issue — not even an imminent crisis like raising the debt ceiling— until the Senate votes again on health care.


LOL at the White House "having official policy" on how the Senate is run
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Dancedreamer
07/30/17 1:30:08 PM
#380:


The Senate should just be like "K, let's vote on it." Then vote against it 100-0. And then move on to other business.
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SupremeZero
07/30/17 1:45:10 PM
#381:


Jakyl25 posted...
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/07/30/senate-obamacare-repeal-mulvaney-241141

Mulvaney said that “yes,” it's official White House policy that the Senate shouldn’t hold a vote on another issue — not even an imminent crisis like raising the debt ceiling— until the Senate votes again on health care.


LOL at the White House "having official policy" on how the Senate is run

Theoretically, that's one they can actually uphold, since the President has to sign bills.

It'd be insanely stupid to do so, of course.
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kevwaffles
07/30/17 2:04:12 PM
#382:


Is there even a slight chance we don't hit a ridiculously long government shutdown at this rate?
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ChaosTonyV4
07/30/17 2:17:05 PM
#383:


red sox 777 posted...
Continuing your fanfiction:

The Senate acquits, failing to achieve a 2/3 majority by a couple of votes. The Tea Party dominates the primary season. Trump clears 350 electoral votes even while losing the popular vote again because of useless landslide losses in CA and NY.

Ryan and McConnell lose their leadership positions, and Congress proceeds to repeal Obamacare without anesthesia, passes big tax cuts for the rich paid for by increasing taxes on the middle class, and huge subsidies for golf course owners. Trump negotiates and the Senate ratifies a formal treaty of alliance with Russia.


What
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Reg
07/30/17 2:18:03 PM
#384:


Depends on how willing the GOP is to make concessions on the budget to get Democrat votes, and whether Trump is willing to sign that.

I'm far from convinced the GOP can get a majority together in the Senate to pass any budget.
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StealThisSheen
07/30/17 2:46:10 PM
#385:


ChaosTonyV4 posted...
red sox 777 posted...
Continuing your fanfiction:

The Senate acquits, failing to achieve a 2/3 majority by a couple of votes. The Tea Party dominates the primary season. Trump clears 350 electoral votes even while losing the popular vote again because of useless landslide losses in CA and NY.

Ryan and McConnell lose their leadership positions, and Congress proceeds to repeal Obamacare without anesthesia, passes big tax cuts for the rich paid for by increasing taxes on the middle class, and huge subsidies for golf course owners. Trump negotiates and the Senate ratifies a formal treaty of alliance with Russia.


What


That's red sox's wet dream
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xp1337
07/30/17 4:30:47 PM
#386:


SupremeZero posted...
Theoretically, that's one they can actually uphold, since the President has to sign bills.

It'd be insanely stupid to do so, of course.

comedy option: it leads to the republicans being forced to give up completely and work with the democrats for veto overrides to keep things going
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LordoftheMorons
07/30/17 4:33:38 PM
#387:


I don't normally link to the National Review, but this is pretty good:
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/449988/donald-trump-cant-close-deal-failing-salesman

Trump is the political version of a pickup artist, and Republicans — and America — went to bed with him convinced that he was something other than what he is. Trump inherited his fortune but describes himself as though he were a self-made man.

He has had a middling career in real estate and a poor one as a hotelier and casino operator but convinced people he is a titan of industry. He has never managed a large, complex corporate enterprise, but he did play an executive on a reality show. He presents himself as a confident ladies’ man but is so insecure that he invented an imaginary friend to lie to the New York press about his love life and is now married to a woman who is open and blasé about the fact that she married him for his money. He fixates on certain words (“negotiator”) and certain classes of words (mainly adjectives and adverbs, “bigly,” “major,” “world-class,” “top,” and superlatives), but he isn’t much of a negotiator, manager, or leader. He cannot negotiate a health-care deal among members of a party desperate for one, can’t manage his own factionalized and leak-ridden White House, and cannot lead a political movement that aspires to anything greater than the service of his own pathetic vanity.

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Mr Lasastryke
07/30/17 4:36:25 PM
#388:


"my father gave me a small loan of one million dollars to start out"
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HaRRicH
07/30/17 4:45:40 PM
#389:


April's news-links I saved...like March, a little bare, but that's not a problem from May onward. Anything big missing?

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1FfxV1aaR9aGjPSgfjIxVNlvGm5ExUMSJkVkLS5EZ79w/edit?usp=drivesdk


Favorite stat from April:

Democrats:
37% support Trump's Syria strikes
38% supported Obama doing it

GOP:
86% supported Trump doing it
22% supported Obama doing

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red sox 777
07/30/17 4:54:58 PM
#390:


HaRRicH posted...
April's news-links I saved...like March, a little bare, but that's not a problem from May onward. Anything big missing?

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1FfxV1aaR9aGjPSgfjIxVNlvGm5ExUMSJkVkLS5EZ79w/edit?usp=drivesdk


Favorite stat from April:

Democrats:
37% support Trump's Syria strikes
38% supported Obama doing it

GOP:
86% supported Trump doing it
22% supported Obama doing


That proves it, Republicans are consistent. They always support a Republican and oppose a Democrat.
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kevwaffles
07/30/17 5:21:30 PM
#392:


JK Rowling is a news outlet? Must have missed that.
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dowolf
07/30/17 5:47:14 PM
#394:


no one cares about that.

at all.
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ChaosTonyV4
07/30/17 5:47:45 PM
#395:


Did the "media" do that, or was it social media?
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SupremeZero
07/30/17 5:49:17 PM
#396:


ChaosTonyV4 posted...
Did the "media" do that, or was it social media?

Book Media.
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LordoftheMorons
07/30/17 5:50:47 PM
#397:


https://mobile.twitter.com/PatCunnane/status/891754885330255872
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StealThisSheen
07/30/17 6:02:08 PM
#398:


UltimaterializerX posted...
kevwaffles posted...
JK Rowling is a news outlet? Must have missed that.

No what happened is the media showed a different angle and pretended Trump blew the kid off. They're sick people. You guys just dislike the dude, which is cool. Whatever. Trump is right though about the media being a bunch of lying trash.


It's not even a "media" story. It's a Twitter story.

You're just proving that literally all you can do is read stuff on Twitter to form thoughts
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TheRock1525
07/30/17 6:03:01 PM
#399:


Didn't Trump say after the House failed the first time that he wanted to start on tax reform anyway? That they convinced him to start with health care?
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scarletspeed7
07/30/17 6:04:43 PM
#400:


Why are you responding to the fully unreformed Ulti?
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SupremeZero
07/30/17 6:14:00 PM
#401:


TheRock1525 posted...
Didn't Trump say after the House failed the first time that he wanted to start on tax reform anyway? That they convinced him to start with health care?

That, ma boi, is what we call "Being a lying shit"
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