Current Events > Get as much help as you can when building your first PC or else

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Wtf is that? Coolant?

I thought everyone used fans wtf

Also how the fuck does that happen
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Improperly sealed.
Could burst into flame.
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GODTIER posted...

I thought everyone used fans wtf

Welcome to the world of PCs.
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SkittyOnWailord posted...

GODTIER posted...

I thought everyone used fans wtf

Welcome to the world of PCs.

I mean it's not shocking that PCs would have liquid cooling i just never thought about it
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it's called testing the loop before you turn on your PC.

if you didn't test the loop before you actually booted up, you're a moron.

liquids won't damage any of your components if they're off, if you do have a leak you can fix it and run it again until everything is copacetic.
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This is why consoles will always win

What were pc gamers thinking when they decided to use literal Gatorade in their electronic devices
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chrono625 posted...

it's called testing the loop before you turn on your PC.

if you didn't test the loop before you actually booted up, you're a moron.

liquids won't damage any of your components if they're off, if you do have a leak you can fix it and run it again until everything is copacetic.

"You're a moron for not doing something you didn't know you were supposed to do."

This is why you need someone experienced to help you build your first PC. They're going to be a lot more aware of every little thing that could go wrong that an inexperienced person wouldn't even think about.

Eh, people putting together a PC for the first time are unlikely to go for liquid cooling.
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the overwhelming majority of beginners will be terrified of "water" being anywhere near their shiny new PC and wont do a custom loop
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halomonkey1_3_5 posted...

the overwhelming majority of beginners will be terrified of "water" being anywhere near their shiny new PC and wont do a custom loop

Shit, dude, I'm on my second PC and I'm still crazy paranoid about static electricity. I ground myself way more than is necessary.
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Anisoptera posted...

If you do a water cooling loop for your first PC you should probably just stick
to consoles or buy prebuilts
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This is why you use sealed, premade units.

I've been using H100i coolers in multiple pc's for years without an issue.
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Turtlebread posted...

This is why consoles will always win

What were pc gamers thinking when they decided to use literal Gatorade in their electronic devices

The Scorpio is liquid cooled dude
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Trigg3rH4ppy posted...

Turtlebread posted...

This is why consoles will always win

What were pc gamers thinking when they decided to use literal Gatorade in their electronic devices

The Scorpio is liquid cooled dude

No it is not. It uses a liquid vapor chamber. It is not liquid cooled.
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Isn't coolant usually distilled water anyway? I.e. non-conductive?

Air is superior
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MJ_Max posted...

Isn't coolant usually distilled water anyway? I.e. non-conductive?

No such thing as that when it comes to leaks. They'll mix with salts and dust in the air.

Distilled water also isn't 100% nonconductive. It is just very resistant.
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Did you have to connect the pump and radiator manually? When I got mine they were already connected out of the box. All I needed to do was screw them in and connect power.
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Gojak_v3 posted...

Did you have to connect the pump and radiator manually? When I got mine they were already connected out of the box. All I needed to do was screw them in and connect power.

Depends on the kit you buy.
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Turtlebread posted...

This is why consoles will always win

What were pc gamers thinking when they decided to use literal Gatorade in their electronic devices

lol

Somebody laugh at me. I tried to force an i7 into a mobo that doesn't support it and wrecked the pins in that mobo. So I'm without a desktop until this new one for my i7 comes in
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Simon_Petrikov posted...

Somebody laugh at me. I tried to force an i7 into a mobo that doesn't support it and wrecked the pins in that mobo. So I'm without a desktop until this new one for my i7 comes in

I7s don't have pins these days.
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Well whatever the deal is the old motherboard doesn't work with my old chip anymore
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Simon_Petrikov posted...

Well whatever the deal is the old motherboard doesn't work with my old chip anymore

For the most part, every time there is a new generation of processors, you need a new motherboard to go with it. A few cpus reuse the same socket or motherboards will have small amounts of backwards compatibility, but if you change the cpu, you should change the motherboard as well.
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ChromaticAngel posted...

Simon_Petrikov posted...

Somebody laugh at me. I tried to force an i7 into a mobo that doesn't support it and wrecked the pins in that mobo. So I'm without a desktop until this new one for my i7 comes in

I7s don't have pins these days.

I think he's talking about the pins on the mobo socket itself.
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rabbi_baby posted...

ChromaticAngel posted...

Simon_Petrikov posted...

Somebody laugh at me. I tried to force an i7 into a mobo that doesn't support it and wrecked the pins in that mobo. So I'm without a desktop until this new one for my i7 comes in

I7s don't have pins these days.

I think he's talking about the pins on the mobo socket itself.

That's the thing. The socket has no pins either. The cpu lays flat. The points of contact are flat on the surfaces, and the socket itself is perfectly sized.

AMD chips still use pins, however.
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Pretty sure I spotted tiny pins on the mobo the last couple of builds I made.
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ChromaticAngel posted...

That's the thing. The socket has no pins either. The cpu lays flat. The points of contact are flat on the surfaces, and the socket itself is perfectly sized

Then I don't know the issue. My motherboard reads '55' on startup, and looking into that it seems like a common memory issue that could occur when there's an error with RAM or if the socket pins are bent or something.
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Simon_Petrikov posted...

ChromaticAngel posted...

That's the thing. The socket has no pins either. The cpu lays flat. The points of contact are flat on the surfaces, and the socket itself is perfectly sized

Then I don't know the issue. My motherboard reads '55' on startup, and looking into that it seems like a common memory issue that could occur when there's an error with RAM or if the socket pins are bent or something.

Is there an error with RAM then?
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Doubt it homie, but further testing is required
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Simon_Petrikov posted...

Doubt it homie, but further testing is required

Well what's the motherboard?
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If you use watercooling on your first pc, you're dumb.

If you don't leak test, you're dumb.
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MSI Z87-GD65 / LGA 1150 Z87

(caps)
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So since error code 55 is apparently "Memory Not Installed", I think the first step would be making sure the RAM is actually working and maybe try reseating it.
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Alrighty. Will update 6 hours from now when I get home
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s***, dude, I'm on my second PC and I'm still crazy paranoid about static electricity. I ground myself way more than is necessary.

*touches doorknob*
*sits down*
Wait what if I picked up some static while sitting down?
*touches doorknob again*
*and again to be sure*
*pickes up mobo*
*puts it down*
*touches doorknob*
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rabbi_baby posted...

Pretty sure I spotted tiny pins on the mobo the last couple of builds I made.

the modern gaming-quality Intel i-Series CPUs don't have pins. There are pins on the motherboard for other things like various different busses, but not for the CPU. all AMD processors use pins AFAIK.

I do think Intel still makes cpus with pins, but they're not something you'd put in a gaming PC.
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DevsBro posted...

s***, dude, I'm on my second PC and I'm still crazy paranoid about static electricity. I ground myself way more than is necessary.

*touches doorknob*
*sits down*
Wait what if I picked up some static while sitting down?
*touches doorknob again*
*and again to be sure*
*pickes up mobo*
*puts it down*
*touches doorknob*

Exactly how I acted when building my first and only PC. Not looking forward to when I have to do it a second time lmao
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Yep, I was speaking from experience. Between all the doorknob touching and checking every pair of connectors seventeen times, it took me 5 hours to build mine, lol.
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DevsBro posted...

Yep, I was speaking from experience. Between all the doorknob touching and checking every pair of connectors seventeen times, it took me 5 hours to build mine, lol.

1. You don't have to touch the doorknob, you can just touch the the chassis (any part with metal exposed is fine).

2. A static wristband is like one fucking dollar. Just buy one. Get the kind with a coiled wire clip because it's less likely to get tangled up than a regular straight wire.
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SGT_Conti posted...

Eh, people putting together a PC for the first time are unlikely to go for liquid cooling.

This, what idiot would do that?
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It's their own fault for not doing a complete test of the loop before placing it into the PC.
Anisoptera posted...

chrono625 posted...

it's called testing the loop before you turn on your PC.

if you didn't test the loop before you actually booted up, you're a moron.

liquids won't damage any of your components if they're off, if you do have a leak you can fix it and run it again until everything is copacetic.

"You're a moron for not doing something you didn't know you were supposed to do."

This is why you need someone experienced to help you build your first PC. They're going to be a lot more aware of every little thing that could go wrong that an inexperienced person wouldn't even think about.

Not my problem some idiot didn't remember the 3 R's of going deeper into a hobby: Research, Research, Research. If he did that, then he would have known to do a 24-hour leak test at a minimum before installing the water loop into the PC.
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2. A static wristband is like one f***ing dollar. Just buy one. Get the kind with a coiled wire clip because it's less likely to get tangled up than a regular straight wire.

One dollar to purchase, five to ship.
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Even if you get help, i actually recommend the experienced builder forces the person to install the cpu. If they can do that scary shit, they can perform any other maintenance that will come around later.

Build two so far, and i don't even wanna fuck with water cooling. There are new mobo's that cand detect leaks and shut itself off before shorting, but not until that is a common thing should i even think about it.
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Nintendo_Porn posted...

Even if you get help, i actually recommend the experienced builder forces the person to install the cpu. If they can do that scary shit, they can perform any other maintenance that will come around later.

What happened for me was a friend just observed and was like "Don't do that" if I made a mistake or was about to make one, but was mostly hands-off. I'm still nervous when I do things on my own though.
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ChromaticAngel posted...

rabbi_baby posted...

Pretty sure I spotted tiny pins on the mobo the last couple of builds I made.

the modern gaming-quality Intel i-Series CPUs don't have pins. There are pins on the motherboard for other things like various different busses, but not for the CPU. all AMD processors use pins AFAIK.

I do think Intel still makes cpus with pins, but they're not something you'd put in a gaming PC.

Yep, there are pins on there. (at least on my socket).
https://www.pugetsystems.com/pic_disp.php?id=32634&width=300

EDIT:

LGA 2011, also called Socket R, is a CPU socket by Intel. Released on 14 November 2011, it replaces Intel's LGA 1366 (Socket B) and LGA 1567 in the performance and high-end desktop and server platforms. The socket has 2011 protruding pins that touch contact points on the underside of the processor.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGA_2011

LGA 2066 and 3647 are in the same configuration...pins on the motherboard socket.
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SGT_Conti posted...

Nintendo_Porn posted...

Even if you get help, i actually recommend the experienced builder forces the person to install the cpu. If they can do that scary shit, they can perform any other maintenance that will come around later.

What happened for me was a friend just observed and was like "Don't do that" if I made a mistake or was about to make one, but was mostly hands-off. I'm still nervous when I do things on my own though.

Good dude to sit down, and watch...this can take hours if you take your time.
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