Poll of the Day > Damn, these phone scam bits are getting more refined

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So normally, they call you, let it ring once or twice, then hang up and expect you to call back.

This time, my phone literally lit up and said I had a missed call, despite it being face-up on my desk all morning. Normally it vibrates and is illuminated for a few seconds while the call is incoming. But this time it just was like BOOM missed call. Couldn't have answered it even if I wanted to.
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If someone is expecting me to call back on a missed call they are going to be waiting a long time.

Why do they do that anyway? I had one company doing that on my cell phone, so I added them to contacts and blocked them (as it would say I had a message from them otherwise).

It's annoying, but was easy to stop, still not sure what they get out of having you call them back.
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wolfy42 posted...

Why do they do that anyway? I had one company doing that on my cell phone, so I added them to contacts and blocked them (as it would say I had a message from them otherwise).

It's annoying, but was easy to stop, still not sure what they get out of having you call them back.

I think the point is that they know most people don't answer calls from unknown numbers halfway across the country, so they try to get you to call them back (even though they never leave messages, thus defeating the purpose) and get you onto the spam line.
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I think it is a new thing where they call your phone, but force the call to go straight to voice mail. Some government fellow in NY wants to make that illegal. I never use voice mail, even on my cell, so they are going to have problems having that work on me.

Muffinz0rz posted...

So normally, they call you, let it ring once or twice, then hang up and expect you to call back.

Uh, not 100% sure that's the actual scam. Sometimes it's more a matter that they're calling multiple people at once and once one person picks up the other lines stop. And, in general, who the fuck sees a missed call and decides, "Oh, gee, I'm going to call them back to see what they wanted!" If that's their scam, the only people they'd get are guys even stupider than them and those are pretty rare.

Playsaver posted...

I think it is a new thing where they call your phone, but force the call to go straight to voice mail. Some government fellow in NY wants to make that illegal. I never use voice mail, even on my cell, so they are going to have problems having that work on me.

Yes, this is technically a thing as well. Basically it involves layering two phone calls at once so the line can show up as busy (despite the recipient not picking up) and get your voice mail. One of our vendors used something similar as part of a CRM system they offered.
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Zeus posted...

Uh, not 100% sure that's the actual scam. Sometimes it's more a matter that they're calling multiple people at once and once one person picks up the other lines stop. And, in general, who the fuck sees a missed call and decides, "Oh, gee, I'm going to call them back to see what they wanted!" If that's their scam, the only people they'd get are guys even stupider than them and those are pretty rare.

https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/3-poll-of-the-day/75508039/883498889
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Well, considering I block all calls that aren't in my contacts list that scam isn't going to work on me, even if I did call back numbers that don't leave me a voice mail.
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Muffinz0rz posted...

Zeus posted...

Uh, not 100% sure that's the actual scam. Sometimes it's more a matter that they're calling multiple people at once and once one person picks up the other lines stop. And, in general, who the fuck sees a missed call and decides, "Oh, gee, I'm going to call them back to see what they wanted!" If that's their scam, the only people they'd get are guys even stupider than them and those are pretty rare.

https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/3-poll-of-the-day/75508039/883498889

Sooner or later, I'm going to have to make a topic entitled "Unpopular troll is being blocked"
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Zeus posted...

Muffinz0rz posted...

Zeus posted...

Uh, not 100% sure that's the actual scam. Sometimes it's more a matter that they're calling multiple people at once and once one person picks up the other lines stop. And, in general, who the fuck sees a missed call and decides, "Oh, gee, I'm going to call them back to see what they wanted!" If that's their scam, the only people they'd get are guys even stupider than them and those are pretty rare.

https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/3-poll-of-the-day/75508039/883498889

Sooner or later, I'm going to have to make a topic entitled "Unpopular troll is being blocked"

You can't do that because you know I win if you do.
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Muffinz0rz posted...

Zeus posted...

Muffinz0rz posted...

Zeus posted...

Uh, not 100% sure that's the actual scam. Sometimes it's more a matter that they're calling multiple people at once and once one person picks up the other lines stop. And, in general, who the fuck sees a missed call and decides, "Oh, gee, I'm going to call them back to see what they wanted!" If that's their scam, the only people they'd get are guys even stupider than them and those are pretty rare.

https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/3-poll-of-the-day/75508039/883498889

Sooner or later, I'm going to have to make a topic entitled "Unpopular troll is being blocked"

You can't do that because you know I win if you do.

You've already lost. The only question is how much more are you prepared to lose, considering you won't even have my attention if I ignore you.
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rjsilverthorn posted...

If someone is expecting me to call back on a missed call they are going to be waiting a long time.

Basically. I also check the phone number on the internet if given before I block said number.
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I'm pretty sure those short ones are just automated calls searching for active phone numbers that they would then sell to scammers or use later to try and scam.
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Zeus posted...

Muffinz0rz posted...

Zeus posted...

Muffinz0rz posted...

Zeus posted...

Uh, not 100% sure that's the actual scam. Sometimes it's more a matter that they're calling multiple people at once and once one person picks up the other lines stop. And, in general, who the fuck sees a missed call and decides, "Oh, gee, I'm going to call them back to see what they wanted!" If that's their scam, the only people they'd get are guys even stupider than them and those are pretty rare.

https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/3-poll-of-the-day/75508039/883498889

Sooner or later, I'm going to have to make a topic entitled "Unpopular troll is being blocked"

You can't do that because you know I win if you do.

You've already lost. The only question is how much more are you prepared to lose, considering you won't even have my attention if I ignore you.

Sorry, but "you lost because I got bored" isn't exactly a legitimate response.
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Muffinz0rz posted...

Zeus posted...

Muffinz0rz posted...

Zeus posted...

Muffinz0rz posted...

Zeus posted...

Uh, not 100% sure that's the actual scam. Sometimes it's more a matter that they're calling multiple people at once and once one person picks up the other lines stop. And, in general, who the fuck sees a missed call and decides, "Oh, gee, I'm going to call them back to see what they wanted!" If that's their scam, the only people they'd get are guys even stupider than them and those are pretty rare.

https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/3-poll-of-the-day/75508039/883498889

Sooner or later, I'm going to have to make a topic entitled "Unpopular troll is being blocked"

You can't do that because you know I win if you do.

You've already lost. The only question is how much more are you prepared to lose, considering you won't even have my attention if I ignore you.

Sorry, but "you lost because I got bored" isn't exactly a legitimate response.

You lost because you lost. Rehashing the same already debunked arguments trying to stretch the thing out forever until somebody smartens up and realizes that you're just trolling doesn't mean the argument is still going.
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Zeus posted...

Muffinz0rz posted...

Zeus posted...

Muffinz0rz posted...

Zeus posted...

Muffinz0rz posted...

Zeus posted...

Uh, not 100% sure that's the actual scam. Sometimes it's more a matter that they're calling multiple people at once and once one person picks up the other lines stop. And, in general, who the fuck sees a missed call and decides, "Oh, gee, I'm going to call them back to see what they wanted!" If that's their scam, the only people they'd get are guys even stupider than them and those are pretty rare.

https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/3-poll-of-the-day/75508039/883498889

Sooner or later, I'm going to have to make a topic entitled "Unpopular troll is being blocked"

You can't do that because you know I win if you do.

You've already lost. The only question is how much more are you prepared to lose, considering you won't even have my attention if I ignore you.

Sorry, but "you lost because I got bored" isn't exactly a legitimate response.

You lost because you lost. Rehashing the same already debunked arguments trying to stretch the thing out forever until somebody smartens up and realizes that you're just trolling doesn't mean the argument is still going.

You haven't debunked my arguments though
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I never answer numbers I don't recognize and never return calls unless they leave a voicemail.

lately the scams here have been strange.

they're all the same. you answer, they say they're so and so working with such and such, then very explicitly ask if you can hear them.

at that point, i just hang up.

the other one is, again, so and so working for such and such, but midway through the call hangs up. i assume in an attempt to call back since it sounds more legit than normal.

the thing is, the numbers they use are spoofed VOIP numbers. like fucking 000-003-0020

what number is like that.
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helly posted...

they're all the same. you answer, they say they're so and so working with such and such, then very explicitly ask if you can hear them.

at that point, i just hang up.

I think they do that just to confirm they didn't get a machine. I've also heard news claims that they try to get you to say "Yes" so they can record it and use it as a confirmation for fraudulent orders, but that sounds largely bullshit.
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Zeus posted...

helly posted...

they're all the same. you answer, they say they're so and so working with such and such, then very explicitly ask if you can hear them.

at that point, i just hang up.

I think they do that just to confirm they didn't get a machine. I've also heard news claims that they try to get you to say "Yes" so they can record it and use it as a confirmation for fraudulent orders, but that sounds largely bullshit.

Muffinz0rz posted...

You haven't debunked my arguments though

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I like the one that pretends they couldnt hear you at first. "oh oh, hello there"
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Zeus posted...

I think they do that just to confirm they didn't get a machine. I've also heard news claims that they try to get you to say "Yes" so they can record it and use it as a confirmation for fraudulent orders, but that sounds largely bullshit.

Yeah, that seems unlikely. They don't know what your voice sounds like. If all they needed was a recording of someone saying yes to steal their money, it'd be a lot easier for them just to say yes themselves, rather than use a recording of you saying that one word. But really, if a single yes was all they needed to steal your money, that's a terrible system.
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Zeus posted...

I've also heard news claims that they try to get you to say "Yes" so they can record it and use it as a confirmation for fraudulent orders, but that sounds largely bullshit.

they do, but they also need a lot more words, too.

just one word isn't going to do anything. they need you to say a lot of different things.
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Anyone get calls when you answer it, they say they just got a missed call from you?
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