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Samurai_Shinjo
08/03/17 2:30:30 PM
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Be fat or you're not an American...

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/03/science/overweight-skinny-asians-americans.html?smid=tw-nytimesscience&smtyp=cur

Obesity: It’s as American as a double serving of apple pie.

That may be an exaggeration, but the reality is that the United States is exceptionally overweight. And, according to a new study, that may affect perceptions of who is and is not American.

The authors of the study — published last week in Psychological Science, the journal of the Association for Psychological Science — found that heavier Asian-Americans are more likely to be perceived as “American” than those of a normal weight. The researchers also found that overweight Asian-American men were less likely than those of a normal weight to be viewed as being in the country illegally.

“We found that there was a paradoxical social benefit for Asian-Americans, where extra weight allows them to be seen as more American and less likely to face prejudice directed at those assumed to be foreign,” said Sapna Cheryan, an author of the study and an associate professor of psychology at the University of Washington, where the research was conducted.

But it isn’t simply that heavier people are seen as more American: The authors did not find the same effect for whites, blacks or Latinos. Instead, they suggest, assumptions about where Asian-Americans come from seem to play a role.


As an Asian American man this irks me.... So despite being born & raised here, assimilated and have a white American girlfriend, I still not considered American unless I gain weight? Fuck this.
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Offworlder1
08/03/17 2:35:52 PM
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Being unhealthy and overweight is nothing to celebrate or be proud of, seriously who is this article trying to fool.
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obsolete
08/03/17 2:36:56 PM
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...it's true.
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philsov
08/03/17 2:41:36 PM
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Offworlder1 posted...
Being unhealthy and overweight is nothing to celebrate or be proud of, seriously who is this article trying to fool.


Probably no one, but more just stating the reality that the majority of Americans perceive "those that look like them" to be countrymen while "those that don't look like them" are nasty foreigners.

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Veggeta X
08/03/17 2:43:54 PM
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I don't know how non-westernized Asians aren't fat as fuck. All they eat is rice, carbs and carbs and shit full of sodium such as ramen. Mean while over here in America if I eat a tootsie roll I get fat as fuck.
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mirage_004
08/03/17 2:46:24 PM
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obsolete posted...
...it's true.

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legendarylemur
08/03/17 2:46:36 PM
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Veggeta X posted...
I don't know how non-westernized Asians aren't fat as fuck. All they eat is rice, carbs and carbs and shit full of sodium such as ramen. Mean while over here in America if I eat a tootsie roll I get fat as fuck.

Cuz Asians eat... like a LOT of vegetables lol. They walk more, are more energetic, are healthier so they do more stuff, and their cuisine is hardly all rice.

And ramen is more of a phase. Most people pretty much eat ramen during their college days and then stop altogether. Not really too different from here I guess. Asian cuisine in general are also not that hard on sodium either. I'd say Chinese food can get salty sometimes I guess
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YellowSUV
08/03/17 2:49:27 PM
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Well, it sort of makes sense when you think about it through stereotypes. Whites and blacks are usually by default considered American. Latin America is getting fat so Latinos don't any benefit from being fat. As for Asian countries, they don't have many fat people, even in the developed parts of it, so a fat Asian is out of the ordinary in Asia.
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philsov
08/03/17 2:49:53 PM
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Veggeta X posted...
if I eat a tootsie roll I get fat as fuck.


You were fat before the tootsie roll, don't lie.

The dose makes the poison. Even if all one eats is rice they won'r get fat so long as they're at caloric maintenance.
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iron jojo
08/03/17 2:55:09 PM
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Percieved by whom? Americans?
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iosifsvoboda
08/03/17 2:59:08 PM
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After the election debacle I don't trust the liberal media surveyors AT ALL.

Also, at this point I just assume every body in America is American unless they got a heavy accent
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Samurai_Shinjo
08/03/17 4:32:19 PM
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bump
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LittleRoyal
08/03/17 4:42:56 PM
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Makes sense wth the way I'm treated in campus as a petite Asian American who is made fun of and called Japanese or asked to read in random languages, or people make random noises st me saying it's Chinese, or people saying I can't understand them when they talk in English, or people trying to talk about any random anime with me.


I'm Chinese and Vietnamese heritage. Born and raised in USA and if you talk to me, I have a southern drawl I sound white except for a high pitched voice.

Oh but it isn't racist according to the Dean
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stoltenberg11
08/03/17 4:52:21 PM
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I wish all the fat fucks would get out of American and quit making the rest of us look bad
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darkphoenix181
08/03/17 4:54:27 PM
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Veggeta X posted...
I don't know how non-westernized Asians aren't fat as fuck. All they eat is rice, carbs and carbs and shit full of sodium such as ramen. Mean while over here in America if I eat a tootsie roll I get fat as fuck.


portions matter

my friend was born and grew up here but her family is tradition chinese

her lunch was usually a tiny bowl of rice and veggies

contrast that to a giant burrito from taco bell
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BlackHorse6969
08/03/17 4:56:29 PM
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the premise of the study is entirely wrong. People never doubt the citizenship of Asian americans. hispanics on the other hand...
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LittleRoyal
08/03/17 5:32:54 PM
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BlackHorse6969 posted...
the premise of the study is entirely wrong. People never doubt the citizenship of Asian americans. hispanics on the other hand...

Are you serious

Wtf?

Anecdotal, but several people call me Chinese or foreign or etc just seeing me on campus not even listening to me speak or trying to talk to me.

Plus the Asian woman who was almost hit by a car and the driver (some black girl) screamed "go back to your country"
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iron jojo
08/03/17 5:34:59 PM
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LittleRoyal posted...
BlackHorse6969 posted...
the premise of the study is entirely wrong. People never doubt the citizenship of Asian americans. hispanics on the other hand...

Are you serious

Wtf?

Anecdotal, but several people call me Chinese or foreign or etc just seeing me on campus not even listening to me speak or trying to talk to me.

Plus the Asian woman who was almost hit by a car and the driver (some black girl) screamed "go back to your country"

What? They just walk up to you and say "hey chinese"
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LittleRoyal
08/03/17 5:35:39 PM
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iron jojo posted...
LittleRoyal posted...
BlackHorse6969 posted...
the premise of the study is entirely wrong. People never doubt the citizenship of Asian americans. hispanics on the other hand...

Are you serious

Wtf?

Anecdotal, but several people call me Chinese or foreign or etc just seeing me on campus not even listening to me speak or trying to talk to me.

Plus the Asian woman who was almost hit by a car and the driver (some black girl) screamed "go back to your country"

What? They just walk up to you and say "hey chinese"


No.


LittleRoyal posted...
Makes sense wth the way I'm treated in campus as a petite Asian American who is made fun of and called Japanese or asked to read in random languages, or people make random noises st me saying it's Chinese, or people saying I can't understand them when they talk in English, or people trying to talk about any random anime with me.


I'm Chinese and Vietnamese heritage. Born and raised in USA and if you talk to me, I have a southern drawl I sound white except for a high pitched voice.

Oh but it isn't racist according to the Dean

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KYOJIROKAGENUMA
08/03/17 5:36:18 PM
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LittleRoyal posted...
Makes sense wth the way I'm treated in campus as a petite Asian American who is made fun of and called Japanese or asked to read in random languages, or people make random noises st me saying it's Chinese, or people saying I can't understand them when they talk in English, or people trying to talk about any random anime with me.


I'm Chinese and Vietnamese heritage. Born and raised in USA and if you talk to me, I have a southern drawl I sound white except for a high pitched voice.

Oh but it isn't racist according to the Dean


But isn't your standpoint purely anecdotal?
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KILBOTz
08/03/17 5:36:33 PM
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Samurai_Shinjo posted...
As an Asian American man this irks me.... So despite being born & raised here, assimilated and have a white American girlfriend, I still not considered American unless I gain weight? Fuck this


You're not necessarily not considered American, just less American.
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LittleRoyal
08/03/17 5:37:05 PM
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What's happened to me is. But there is a video of a woman telling a story about a black girl almost hitting her with a car and BLM shuts her down and forcibly takes the mic from her
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stoltenberg11
08/03/17 5:37:16 PM
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KYOJIROKAGENUMA posted...
But isn't your standpoint purely anecdotal?

She already said it was
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Jabodie
08/03/17 5:37:34 PM
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iron jojo posted...
What? They just walk up to you and say "hey chinese"

This used to happen to me in middle/high school lol.

I go to a liberal college though, but if I went to certain kinds of parties I'm sure I'd get it.

It doesn't really bother me though, but it does bother other people quite a bit.
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LittleRoyal
08/03/17 5:48:29 PM
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Jabodie posted...
iron jojo posted...
What? They just walk up to you and say "hey chinese"

This used to happen to me in middle/high school lol.

I go to a liberal college though, but if I went to certain kinds of parties I'm sure I'd get it.

It doesn't really bother me though, but it does bother other people quite a bit.

Happened a lot to me in elementary actually.

But I was super shy and nervous around anyone so then I didn't really talk so at least it would have made sense in their kid brains that maybe I don't know English. Lol no we're adults.

And I'm mostly Vietnamese I don't even think I look that Chinese
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SGT_Conti
08/03/17 5:49:50 PM
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Veggeta X posted...
I don't know how non-westernized Asians aren't fat as fuck. All they eat is rice, carbs and carbs and shit full of sodium such as ramen. Mean while over here in America if I eat a tootsie roll I get fat as fuck.

Rice is more of a filler. You'd be laughed at if all you ate was rice, or even if most of your meal was rice and not any number of vegetables Asians cook.

LittleRoyal posted...
or asked to read in random languages,

Yeah I'm just like "bro why do you assume I can read Chinese" because I'm honestly illiterate.
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AzureAnihilator
08/03/17 5:51:24 PM
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This country is a hollowed-out, broken shell of what it was a hundred years ago. Morality has fallen and what it means to be an American means less now than ever.
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Jabodie
08/03/17 5:53:57 PM
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LittleRoyal posted...
Happened a lot to me in elementary actually.

I went to a Texas middle and high school full of dumbasses. And I don't mean they were dumb for any prejudice or whatever, there were just a lot of dumb people. I think there were two other Asian guys in my class of 400.

In hs it was mostly just Mexican people calling me chino. And they rarely mean it as an insult, but there are always outliers.

LittleRoyal posted...
And I'm mostly Vietnamese I don't even think I look that Chinese

Eh, people that aren't familiar with Asians can't really tell the differences (usually).

People can usually spot that I'm half Korean nowadays. There's a ton of Asian cliques around my university, so I think it becomes easier for people to tell different countries apart after a while. Unfortunately I'm not a part of any of those - never really felt comfortable as my mom never taught me the language.

I get the feeling of feeling less "American" despite the fact that I really only know English, spent most of my childhood in the south, and have trouble relating to people with strong roots in their Asian heritage. But like I said, it doesn't bother me so much anymore.
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Axiom
08/03/17 5:56:11 PM
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Get fat or leave the country. We don't tolerate healthy people here
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Kitt
08/03/17 5:57:12 PM
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I can't say I relate to this and I'm a 125lb Asian kid.
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darkphoenix181
08/03/17 6:00:17 PM
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LittleRoyal posted...
Jabodie posted...
iron jojo posted...
What? They just walk up to you and say "hey chinese"

This used to happen to me in middle/high school lol.

I go to a liberal college though, but if I went to certain kinds of parties I'm sure I'd get it.

It doesn't really bother me though, but it does bother other people quite a bit.

Happened a lot to me in elementary actually.

But I was super shy and nervous around anyone so then I didn't really talk so at least it would have made sense in their kid brains that maybe I don't know English. Lol no we're adults.

And I'm mostly Vietnamese I don't even think I look that Chinese


little kids know very little of the world

they likely had no idea there was any other asian country but China

HS ppl also
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Jabodie
08/03/17 6:01:37 PM
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darkphoenix181 posted...
HS ppl also

Do you really think this poorly of our education system?

Because you're probably right.
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Kitt
08/03/17 6:05:02 PM
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they likely had no idea there was any other asian country but China

HS ppl also

I will say, I was shocked when I saw the lack of knowledge on this similar subject from some of my high school peers.
It was usually stuff I overheard. I remember one instances where this girl was trying to figure out the background of these two girls.

"I think she's Korean and she's Asian."

Motherfucker, how are you a senior?
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SGT_Conti
08/03/17 6:06:59 PM
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Kitt posted...
they likely had no idea there was any other asian country but China

HS ppl also

I will say, I was shocked when I saw the lack of knowledge on this similar subject from some of my high school peers.
It was usually stuff I overheard&#8203;. I remember one instances where this girl was trying to figure out the background of these two girls.

"I think she's Korean and she's Asian."

Motherfucker, how are you a senior?

Yeah, there's innocent bits of prejudice like "You speak pretty good English" to an Asian who was born and raised in the country, and then there's an outright ignorance that involves insane shit like not knowing the difference between North and South Korea.
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Jabodie
08/03/17 6:09:04 PM
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SGT_Conti posted...

Yeah, there's innocent bits of prejudice like "You speak pretty good English" to an Asian who was born and raised in the country, and then there's an outright ignorance that involves insane s*** like not knowing the difference between North and South Korea.

Honestly, when it comes to high schoolers, it's harder for me to blame them for their ignorance. Most people only know what they're exposed to, and "regular" classes in many schools in the US are just glorified babysitting.
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Two_Dee
08/03/17 6:10:05 PM
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The most ive weighed was 143. Is that American enough?
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Kitt
08/03/17 6:11:00 PM
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SGT_Conti posted...
Kitt posted...
they likely had no idea there was any other asian country but China

HS ppl also

I will say, I was shocked when I saw the lack of knowledge on this similar subject from some of my high school peers.
It was usually stuff I overheard%u200B. I remember one instances where this girl was trying to figure out the background of these two girls.

"I think she's Korean and she's Asian."

Motherfucker, how are you a senior?

Yeah, there's innocent bits of prejudice like "You speak pretty good English" to an Asian who was born and raised in the country, and then there's an outright ignorance that involves insane shit like not knowing the difference between North and South Korea.

Sometimes they'll turn to me and be like, "Kitt, can you tell?" That got annoying sometimes. More often than not, it was a Vietnamese kid, which I am not.
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Axiom
08/03/17 6:13:41 PM
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Kitt posted...
Sometimes they'll turn to me and be like, "Kitt, can you tell?" That got annoying sometimes.

Are you telling me asian people don't have an inherent ability to sense other asian people's heritage. God damnit my biology teacher lied to me
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stoltenberg11
08/03/17 6:27:38 PM
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Two_Dee posted...
The most ive weighed was 143. Is that American enough?

It qualifies if you're female but for a male that's pretty light, maybe by not just American standards even.
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LittleRoyal
08/03/17 6:32:48 PM
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darkphoenix181 posted...
LittleRoyal posted...
Jabodie posted...
iron jojo posted...
What? They just walk up to you and say "hey chinese"

This used to happen to me in middle/high school lol.

I go to a liberal college though, but if I went to certain kinds of parties I'm sure I'd get it.

It doesn't really bother me though, but it does bother other people quite a bit.

Happened a lot to me in elementary actually.

But I was super shy and nervous around anyone so then I didn't really talk so at least it would have made sense in their kid brains that maybe I don't know English. Lol no we're adults.

And I'm mostly Vietnamese I don't even think I look that Chinese


little kids know very little of the world

they likely had no idea there was any other asian country but China

HS ppl also


I'm 20 and in college. I don't think they can use that excuse anymore besides even if they do being racist is hurtful. It's been years that people tried to make me read or write their name in Japanese or Korean and idk either of those languages.

Plus like I said I look very Vietnamese I don't look Chinese at all.

I have a southern drawl. But people in college act up around me, speak weird noises, say things like "I'm of all the people coming from china just for college" and their friends "she's right there stop." "Not like she can understand me anyway."


Because I was in line ahead of them. (-.-)b
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BlackHorse6969
08/03/17 7:32:43 PM
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LittleRoyal posted...
BlackHorse6969 posted...
the premise of the study is entirely wrong. People never doubt the citizenship of Asian americans. hispanics on the other hand...

Are you serious

Wtf?

Anecdotal, but several people call me Chinese or foreign or etc just seeing me on campus not even listening to me speak or trying to talk to me.

Plus the Asian woman who was almost hit by a car and the driver (some black girl) screamed "go back to your country"

just because people are racist does not mean they dont recognize asian americans as american. asians have never been threatened with deportation on the basis of their race
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iamintents
08/03/17 7:33:13 PM
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they polled a bunch of fat, middle-aged, white ppl.
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Axiom
08/03/17 7:37:39 PM
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BlackHorse6969 posted...
asians have never been threatened with deportation on the basis of their race

They not only have been threatened with deportation but they were also placed in internment camps
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BlackHorse6969
08/03/17 7:41:02 PM
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Axiom posted...
BlackHorse6969 posted...
asians have never been threatened with deportation on the basis of their race

They not only have been threatened with deportation but they were also placed in internment camps

that was over 100 years ago. the article pertains to the present era
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LittleRoyal
08/03/17 7:41:37 PM
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BlackHorse6969 posted...
LittleRoyal posted...
BlackHorse6969 posted...
the premise of the study is entirely wrong. People never doubt the citizenship of Asian americans. hispanics on the other hand...

Are you serious

Wtf?

Anecdotal, but several people call me Chinese or foreign or etc just seeing me on campus not even listening to me speak or trying to talk to me.

Plus the Asian woman who was almost hit by a car and the driver (some black girl) screamed "go back to your country"

just because people are racist does not mean they dont recognize asian americans as american. asians have never been threatened with deportation on the basis of their race


That has in fact happened several times in recent American history. And worse.

And in this specifically they are saying I come from china from college. I was born and raised in America.
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Axiom
08/03/17 7:43:43 PM
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BlackHorse6969 posted...
Axiom posted...
BlackHorse6969 posted...
asians have never been threatened with deportation on the basis of their race

They not only have been threatened with deportation but they were also placed in internment camps

that was over 100 years ago. the article pertains to the present era

The fact it has happened before means saying it never happened is objectively wrong
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BlackHorse6969
08/03/17 7:44:45 PM
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LittleRoyal posted...
BlackHorse6969 posted...
LittleRoyal posted...
BlackHorse6969 posted...
the premise of the study is entirely wrong. People never doubt the citizenship of Asian americans. hispanics on the other hand...

Are you serious

Wtf?

Anecdotal, but several people call me Chinese or foreign or etc just seeing me on campus not even listening to me speak or trying to talk to me.

Plus the Asian woman who was almost hit by a car and the driver (some black girl) screamed "go back to your country"

just because people are racist does not mean they dont recognize asian americans as american. asians have never been threatened with deportation on the basis of their race


That has in fact happened several times in recent American history. And worse.

And in this specifically they are saying I come from china from college. I was born and raised in America.

ok ok ok ok ok ok. you want to play it that way? you want to be more american? then follow the article's suggestion and get fat
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BlackHorse6969
08/03/17 7:45:48 PM
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Axiom posted...
BlackHorse6969 posted...
Axiom posted...
BlackHorse6969 posted...
asians have never been threatened with deportation on the basis of their race

They not only have been threatened with deportation but they were also placed in internment camps

that was over 100 years ago. the article pertains to the present era

The fact it has happened before means saying it never happened is objectively wrong

internment camps do not equate to deportation. it is quarantino
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