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Jakyl25
08/03/17 3:46:43 PM
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Trump said it, not me
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FFDragon
08/03/17 3:47:24 PM
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Fox News's Bill Hemmer spoke with Sebastian Gorka, a White House deputy assistant, about a recent editorial in the China Daily newspaper that read, in part: "Trump is wrong in his assumption that Beijing can single-handedly handle the matter. As Beijing has said, repeatedly, it does not have the kind of 'control' over Pyongyang that the U.S. president believes it does. Nor will Beijing accept Trump's allegation that it has done nothing."

Hemmer then asked Gorka, "What card left do you have to get China to act?"

"We have, you know, the president's Twitter feed," Gorka responded.
"We have the most powerful man in the world, making it very clear that we came out of the Mar-a-Lago summit with very high hopes."



is this real life
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Jakyl25
08/03/17 3:48:38 PM
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I figured out Trump's big WV announcement

Virginia is getting too blue, so he's folding them back together into one state
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The Mana Sword
08/03/17 3:48:39 PM
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SupremeZero
08/03/17 3:51:48 PM
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The Mana Sword posted...
Here's your 'big announcement'

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/03/us/politics/west-virginia-governor-to-switch-from-democrat-to-republican-trump.html?smprod=nytcore-iphone&smid=nytcore-iphone-share

this seems like a strange move

Uh, more to the point, why is it relevant to Trump.
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Jakyl25
08/03/17 3:51:49 PM
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I can't imagine it's a bad move in WV though

Aren't they one of the states getting redder the quickest?
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My Immortal
08/03/17 3:52:21 PM
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Jakyl25
08/03/17 3:52:23 PM
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SupremeZero posted...
The Mana Sword posted...
Here's your 'big announcement'

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/03/us/politics/west-virginia-governor-to-switch-from-democrat-to-republican-trump.html?smprod=nytcore-iphone&smid=nytcore-iphone-share

this seems like a strange move

Uh, more to the point, why is it relevant to Trump.


Well he technically is the leader of the party
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My Immortal
08/03/17 3:52:44 PM
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Gov. Jim Justice of West Virginia in January. Mr. Justice, a billionaire coal and real estate magnate, ran as a conservative Democrat and declined to endorse Hillary Clinton in 2016.


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FFDragon
08/03/17 3:53:09 PM
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SupremeZero posted...
Uh, more to the point, why is it relevant to Trump.


because literally the only thing he cares about is the appearance of winning and the dems are losing
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Not_an_Owl
08/03/17 3:53:46 PM
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The Mana Sword posted...
this seems like a strange move

Didn't Trump win West Virginia by like 50 points?
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The Mana Sword
08/03/17 3:53:54 PM
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Yeah, Trump cares because it's another state he gets to shade in red in his US Government Coloring Book.
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LordoftheMorons
08/03/17 3:53:56 PM
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Re: Justice

He literally just got elected in 2016, and switched from R to D in 2015.

Basically it looks like he's just an opportunistic asshole who ran as a D because it was easier.
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Eddv
08/03/17 3:53:58 PM
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Not terribly shocking.

He ran as a Democrat to avoid the crowded Republican primary field. He had been a republican until 2015
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SupremeZero
08/03/17 3:54:11 PM
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The Mana Sword posted...
Yeah, Trump cares because it's another state he gets to shade in red in his US Government Coloring Book.

He already had that state shaded red.
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Regaro
08/03/17 3:54:44 PM
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https://www.wsj.com/amp/articles/special-counsel-mueller-impanels-washington-grand-jury-in-russia-probe-1501788287

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The Mana Sword
08/03/17 3:54:57 PM
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SupremeZero posted...
The Mana Sword posted...
Yeah, Trump cares because it's another state he gets to shade in red in his US Government Coloring Book.

He already had that state shaded red.


There are separate maps for each government position!
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SupremeZero
08/03/17 3:55:30 PM
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The Mana Sword posted...
SupremeZero posted...
The Mana Sword posted...
Yeah, Trump cares because it's another state he gets to shade in red in his US Government Coloring Book.

He already had that state shaded red.


There are separate maps for each government position!

I don't see why that's relevant when he can't even separate the Primary and the General elections.
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LordoftheMorons
08/03/17 3:56:03 PM
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Really hope Manchin can hold his seat.

I think he's well liked in WV, but it's possible that the pull of the letter R will be too strong in these polarized times.
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BowserCuffs
08/03/17 4:06:51 PM
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SupremeZero posted...
The Mana Sword posted...
SupremeZero posted...
The Mana Sword posted...
Yeah, Trump cares because it's another state he gets to shade in red in his US Government Coloring Book.

He already had that state shaded red.


There are separate maps for each government position!

I don't see why that's relevant when he can't even separate the Primary and the General elections.


Perhaps that's why he needs the coloring book
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LordoftheMorons
08/03/17 4:06:53 PM
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Mueller's impaneling a grand jury:

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-mueller-idUSKBN1AJ2RA
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Eddv
08/03/17 4:29:00 PM
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LordoftheMorons posted...
Really hope Manchin can hold his seat.

I think he's well liked in WV, but it's possible that the pull of the letter R will be too strong in these polarized times.


Well if Justice is proof of one thing its that the R may not be fully necessary.
He did win West Virginia as a D while Trump won by like 50 points
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LordoftheMorons
08/03/17 4:32:33 PM
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Update: the grand jury is related to the Trump Jr meeting
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The Mana Sword
08/03/17 4:33:27 PM
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LordoftheMorons posted...
Update: the grand jury is related to the Trump Jr meeting


if it's what you say I love it
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Jakyl25
08/03/17 4:33:47 PM
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I really hope putting those emails on Twitter is the stupid move that brings things tumbling down
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LordoftheMorons
08/03/17 4:35:23 PM
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The Mana Sword posted...
LordoftheMorons posted...
Update: the grand jury is related to the Trump Jr meeting


if it's what you say I love it

Especially later in the summer?
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LordoftheMorons
08/03/17 4:38:48 PM
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Who wants to give odds for Trump trying to get Mueller fired in the next, say, week
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Not_an_Owl
08/03/17 4:41:16 PM
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LordoftheMorons posted...
Who wants to give odds for Trump trying to get Mueller fired in the next, say, week

I don't think he does as long as Kelly and Sessions are still working there. Kelly because he knows what a goddamn idiotic idea it would be to even try, and Sessions because he'd straight up refuse to do it.
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Eddv
08/03/17 4:42:04 PM
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Well the real question is "Will Sessions or Rosenstein carry out such an order"
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The Mana Sword
08/03/17 4:42:41 PM
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That rally's gonna be a real humdinger if Trump sees all this before then.
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LordoftheMorons
08/03/17 4:43:52 PM
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In these odds I'm including things like Trump requesting Rosenstein fire him and Rosenstein refusing or Trump firing Rosenstein etc
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LapisLazuli
08/03/17 5:31:57 PM
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Why is Trump having a rally???
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LordoftheMorons
08/03/17 5:32:42 PM
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Because he needs a self esteem boost
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GuessMyUserName
08/03/17 5:40:10 PM
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need a Trump Summer Tour Extravaganza
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LordoftheMorons
08/03/17 6:59:20 PM
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https://twitter.com/StevenTDennis/status/893243482252423168

Jesus. Kind of surprising that the Dems haven't recruited a strong candidate (afaik) for that race yet.

I also really hope this doesn't scare other Republicans away from criticizing Trump. It probably will though.
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LapisLazuli
08/03/17 7:17:45 PM
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The only good thing about the Trump presidency is the damage he's doing to the Republican party. I'm calling it now that we're gonna see more blue flips in 2018 than anyone predicts.
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Not_an_Owl
08/03/17 7:25:57 PM
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https://twitter.com/CNBC/status/893193421476814848
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The Mana Sword
08/03/17 7:31:57 PM
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that monster 0.3 point drop
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ChaosTonyV4
08/03/17 7:34:08 PM
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Stocks PLUMMET to levels unseen since 10am
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My Immortal
08/03/17 7:35:53 PM
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From my extremely limited experience in this world, I think those numbers are percentages and a 0.3% dip is kind of unusual.

Please correct me if I'm wrong
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The Mana Sword
08/03/17 7:40:01 PM
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I mean, you can definitely point to the Mueller stuff being the reason for the dip, but .3% isn't really a huge thing and the DOW actually ended up for the day.
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red sox 777
08/03/17 7:44:06 PM
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0.3% happens all the time. Like, without looking it up, I'd guess probably 30% of trading days experience a decline greater than that.
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LapisLazuli
08/03/17 7:54:52 PM
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Doesn't mean it's not gonna get spun. The vast majority of Americans know literally nothing about how the DOW works.
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My Immortal
08/03/17 8:16:00 PM
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Like me!

I usually hear on npr that the Dow was up or down .1% at most so I dunno
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Dancedreamer
08/03/17 8:18:23 PM
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red sox 777 posted...
0.3% happens all the time. Like, without looking it up, I'd guess probably 30% of trading days experience a decline greater than that.


Facts don't matter. Only feels.
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red sox 777
08/03/17 8:38:08 PM
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They would probably do better to talk about the total wealth destroyed, rather than percentages. I think 0.3% of US stocks is pretty close to $100 billion.

And, since Trump took office, the average (arithmetic mean) American has gotten about $16,000 richer from stocks alone. And that includes children, retired, and unemployed people, so if you are an average (arithmetic mean) working person, you've probably gotten around 30k richer just from stocks.

Of course, Americans hold much more wealth in real estate than stocks, so really, you should be crediting Trump with a gain of at least 100k....and that's either gonna be taxed at 15% for stocks or 0% for real estate, as long as you always buy another house when you sell yours.

Given the high taxes imposed by Democrats on income from working, President Trump has increased your wealth by the equivalent of at least 150k in earned income in 6 months.

All while going on vacation every week and using most of his working hours fending off witch hunts. What a dealmaking master!

What's that you say? Median? No, no, arithmetic mean is much better, median is fake news, that's all folks.
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trdl23
08/03/17 8:56:10 PM
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At least Red Sox is self-aware?
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Not_an_Owl
08/03/17 8:56:21 PM
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red sox 777 posted...
What's that you say? Median? No, no, arithmetic mean is much better, median is fake news, that's all folks.

I've always preferred mode, personally.
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Peace___Frog
08/03/17 9:04:42 PM
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Nah it's all about the geometric mean
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NFUN
08/03/17 9:05:49 PM
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Not_an_Owl posted...
red sox 777 posted...
What's that you say? Median? No, no, arithmetic mean is much better, median is fake news, that's all folks.

I've always preferred mode, personally.

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