Current Events > anti-adblockers should be illegal tbh

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ads are the worst thing thats happened to the internet. they need to go
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That's why anti-adblock killer exists.
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good thing your life doesn't depend on having to use the Internet eh?
if you want to steal ad revenue dont make shitty justifications.
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ModLogic posted...

good thing your life doesn't depend on having to use the Internet eh?
if you want to steal ad revenue dont make shitty justifications.

the internet can easily exist without ads, wtf are you talking about
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Do you have a better business model in mind?
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scar the 1 posted...

Do you have a better business model in mind?

Use simple ads not riddled with infections, or auto play music or videos. Is it really that hard?
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But that was a response to the statement "the internet can easily exist without ads".
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scar the 1 posted...

Do you have a better business model in mind?

yes, text based advertisements which don't take up 90% of the screen, use fuck all bandwidth, and don't have anything moving or which have sound


or no ads, which is better
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ImmortalHogRide posted...

scar the 1 posted...

Do you have a better business model in mind?

Use simple ads not riddled with infections, or auto play music or videos. Is it really that hard?

That's not a better business model, that's the same business model.
Rika_Furude posted...

scar the 1 posted...

Do you have a better business model in mind?

yes, text based advertisements which don't take up 90% of the screen, use fuck all bandwidth, and don't have anything moving or which have sound


or no ads, which is better

Again, improved ads is the same business model. No ads isn't a better business model, it's no business model. My question is, how do you suggest all these content publishers make money if ads should go away? I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just curious to hear how you think.
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scar the 1 posted...

Do you have a better business model in mind?

Advertise, but allow people to skip the ad at all times. Advertising shouldn't "trap" you. That's just annoying and honestly makes me not want to buy your product. It has the opposite effect.
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scar the 1 posted...

No ads isn't a better business model, it's no business model.

why is this a bad thing?
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Content requires to be paid for somehow. I'd rather ads than pay subscription models.

ArchiePeck posted...

Content requires to be paid for somehow

thousands of content producers for gamefaqs didnt required to be paid. thousands of youtubers dont require to be paid
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Rika_Furude posted...

ArchiePeck posted...

Content requires to be paid for somehow

thousands of content producers for gamefaqs didnt required to be paid. thousands of youtubers dont require to be paid

Thousands more youtubers actually prefer getting paid because that means they can create more and better stuff.
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scar the 1 posted...

Rika_Furude posted...

ArchiePeck posted...

Content requires to be paid for somehow

thousands of content producers for gamefaqs didnt required to be paid. thousands of youtubers dont require to be paid

Thousands more youtubers actually prefer getting paid because that means they can create more and better stuff.

And they don't have to go out in the world and get real jobs. They are their own boss.
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scar the 1 posted...

that means they can create more and better stuff.

uh, how? a youtube video is a youtube video.
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Rika_Furude posted...

scar the 1 posted...

that means they can create more and better stuff.

uh, how? a youtube video is a youtube video.

Uh, if they don't have to work full-time they can put more time into their content creation, which can lead to more content and higher production quality? This isn't very tricky.
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lol @ promoting gamefaqs business model of using user-created content without paying them for it as a good thing

cjayc is sipping margaritas on a beach somewhere on the backs of thousands of hardworking faq writers
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Philoktetes posted...

lol @ promoting gamefaqs business model of using user-created content without paying them for it as a good thing

cjayc is sipping margaritas on a beach somewhere on the backs of thousands of hardworking faq writers

Hey, I actually agree. For a site whose value resides in a lot of user-generated content and unpaid work put in by mods, it's pretty cheap that no ad revenue goes back into that.
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Philoktetes posted...

lol @ promoting gamefaqs business model of using user-created content without paying them for it as a good thing

why isnt it a good thing? barring the fact gamefaqs is cashing in, anyone could easily come in and host a replacement with no ads
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and how would they pay for the hosting
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Philoktetes posted...

and how would they pay for the hosting

hosting a website for a couple thousand people isnt very expensive. gamefaqs is literally just plaintext
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Rika_Furude posted...

Philoktetes posted...

and how would they pay for the hosting

hosting a website for a couple thousand people isnt very expensive. gamefaqs is literally just plaintext

I would expect traffic to be bigger than that.
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do ppl even read text walkthroughs anymore

cjayc sold out at the perfect time
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scar the 1 posted...

Rika_Furude posted...

Philoktetes posted...

and how would they pay for the hosting

hosting a website for a couple thousand people isnt very expensive. gamefaqs is literally just plaintext

I would expect traffic to be bigger than that.

not on gamefaqs
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Rika_Furude posted...

scar the 1 posted...

Rika_Furude posted...

Philoktetes posted...

and how would they pay for the hosting

hosting a website for a couple thousand people isnt very expensive. gamefaqs is literally just plaintext

I would expect traffic to be bigger than that.

not on gamefaqs

On the forums, sure. But the walkthroughs? You got hard data? I'm curious.
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my uncle works at CBS and I asked him for hard data on gamefaqs and he blocked me on social media and wrote me out of his will


what are they hiding O_O
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scar the 1 posted...

On the forums, sure. But the walkthroughs? You got hard data? I'm curious.

some of the largest faqs on this site are like 3mb
most are like 500kb and below
you could host that shit on your mobile phone
but lets be generous, and say that a standard 500gb home plan is enough
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Rika_Furude posted...

scar the 1 posted...

that means they can create more and better stuff.

uh, how? a youtube video is a youtube video.

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Choco posted...

Rika_Furude posted...

scar the 1 posted...

that means they can create more and better stuff.

uh, how? a youtube video is a youtube video.

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what, do you think they are putting a budget towards special effects? lol
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Rika_Furude posted...

scar the 1 posted...

On the forums, sure. But the walkthroughs? You got hard data? I'm curious.

some of the largest faqs on this site are like 3mb
most are like 500kb and below
you could host that shit on your mobile phone
but lets be generous, and say that a standard 500gb home plan is enough

I thought we were talking about traffic, not storage?

Rika_Furude posted...

what, do you think they are putting a budget towards special effects? lol

Uhhhhh, more time, more content? More time to edit, do additional takes, make more content, etc?
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ITT: TC doesn't understand webhosting costs and thinks the world runs on pixie dust and magic.
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This is silly. None of the hassle of sites closing down from no money/no incentive would be comparable to the now comparably dwarfed hassle of ads. And what's more, you and I both know exactly the kind of sites with those kind of ads, and it would be absurd to complain about it on an illegitimate site. There's nothing further to discuss here.
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Error1355 posted...

ITT: TC doesn't understand webhosting costs and thinks the world runs on pixie dust and magic.

It's Rika, what do you expect? He wants everything for free and doesn't care about screwing the contents creator of their hard earned money, whether it's ad revenue, or emulation and probably file sharing in general. (though he usually whines about emulation)
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scar the 1 posted...

I thought we were talking about traffic, not storage?

uh, yeah. how much bandwidth does it take to send a 500kb file to someone?
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Most of the pop under ads I see are for sites my web filter blocks. I don't have adware, but I had to choose banner ads or pop unders. The banner ads can't be blocked but the pop unders could. Gaaah.
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Ads are great because I can block 99% of them.

I can't block subscription paywalls.
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stone posted...

Error1355 posted...

ITT: TC doesn't understand webhosting costs and thinks the world runs on pixie dust and magic.

It's Rika, what do you expect? He wants everything for free and doesn't care about screwing the contents creator of their hard earned money, whether it's ad revenue, or emulation and probably file sharing in general. (though he usually whines about emulation)

how difficult do you find it to act this clueless?
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RedWhiteBlue posted...

Why not have a donation tab that shows how much money is needed to maintain a site for the month? Cap the visible value so people won't realize how much extra, if any, money is being made from donations to pay workers extra. Still ads on the bottom of the pages, all ads reviewed ahead of time.

Just an idea, not sure how it would work.

that would require the site to put in effort towards providing its users a better experience and service in order to justify a donation, something Error and GameFAQs are incapable of doing
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Rika_Furude posted...

scar the 1 posted...

I thought we were talking about traffic, not storage?

uh, yeah. how much bandwidth does it take to send a 500kb file to someone?

Does not a site with 10 users compared to a site with 100k users have different requirements, even if they both host small files?
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This is an unrealistic point of view. I agree that ads are out of control and would say that perhaps some regulation needs to happen on the medium, but it's a viable revenue stream for services that you otherwise don't want to pay for.
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scar the 1 posted...

Rika_Furude posted...

scar the 1 posted...

I thought we were talking about traffic, not storage?

uh, yeah. how much bandwidth does it take to send a 500kb file to someone?

Does not a site with 10 users compared to a site with 100k users have different requirements, even if they both host small files?

gamefaqs doesnt have a quarter of that, even when counting non-members
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Rika_Furude posted...

scar the 1 posted...

Rika_Furude posted...

scar the 1 posted...

I thought we were talking about traffic, not storage?

uh, yeah. how much bandwidth does it take to send a 500kb file to someone?

Does not a site with 10 users compared to a site with 100k users have different requirements, even if they both host small files?

gamefaqs doesnt have a quarter of that, even when counting non-members

Can you give me any traffic data? At all?
Besides, it's not just a plaintext website, it's a site that hosts thousands of documents, images (and videos?) with a search engine on top, and a message board as well. Now the message board has around 1.5k content users at a given time, let's play with the thought that the rest of the site has 10x that. You'll want 24 hour uptime, database maintenance, etc. The sort of analytics that SBAllen has at his disposal suggests a significant, additional cost to that. So with you actually being an IT professional, ostensibly, how is it that you're so oblivious to the costs of running this site? I mean, it's a big enough site that advertisers are interested in it, that should be your first clue that it's not just some plaintext site that anyone can afford to host with no hassle.
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scar the 1 posted...

it's a site that hosts thousands of documents

plaintext documents

scar the 1 posted...

images (and videos?)

not many

scar the 1 posted...

with a search engine on top

searches dont use bandwidth, aren't hard to implement, and gamefaqs is especially bad because you can copy/paste something from github and have it work better than the shit allen put in place

scar the 1 posted...

Now the message board has around 1.5k content users at a given time

which is piss all

scar the 1 posted...

let's play with the thought that the rest of the site has 10x that

even if it was 100x it is still piss all considering gamefaqs is 99.9999% a plaintext site

scar the 1 posted...

You'll want 24 hour uptime

not difficult

scar the 1 posted...

database maintenance

what do you consider "maintenance"? theres no way gamefaqs has ANYTHING complex going on
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scar the 1 posted...

The sort of analytics that SBAllen has at his disposal suggests a significant, additional cost to that

no it doesn't

scar the 1 posted...

how is it that you're so oblivious to the costs of running this site?

you're pulling complete shit out of your ass and pretending it means anything. i could code a replacement for gamefaqs in a week and host it at home, take all of gamefaqs concurrent users at no cost, and do it for free. gamefaqs is not a large website, its not complex, its not special.

scar the 1 posted...

I mean, it's a big enough site that advertisers are interested in it

no its not. gamefaqs uses a google script. if advertisers were interested there would be some sponsorship program set up like what linus tech tips and totalbiscuit have.

scar the 1 posted...

that should be your first clue that it's not just some plaintext site

gamefaqs doesn't provide anything that isn't plaintext or a thumbnail image
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LightningAce11 posted...

scar the 1 posted...

Rika_Furude posted...

ArchiePeck posted...

Content requires to be paid for somehow

thousands of content producers for gamefaqs didnt required to be paid. thousands of youtubers dont require to be paid

Thousands more youtubers actually prefer getting paid because that means they can create more and better stuff.

And they don't have to go out in the world and get real jobs. They are their own boss.

Pretentious much?

Rika_Furude posted...

what, do you think they are putting a budget towards special effects? lol

If you take things only at face value. Looks like the lead moderator was right about you.
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Did you really have to break my post into two different ones? I don't doubt that the site isn't the Mona Lisa of the internet, but I'd gladly like to see you make an equivalent site in a week, that can handle the same amounts of traffic etc. I'd actually be willing to pitch in a small amount just to see it happen.
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