Current Events > New Swedish political party poll. 3 parties are in danger ahead of 2018.

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The Greens, the Liberals and the Christian-Democrats are all below or dancing close to the 4% threshold. The ChristDems have pushed back up above the threshold in this poll but they still remain on shaky ground - their increase is pretty much because the Conservatives keep losing voters.

28.7% - Socialdemocrats
20.1% - Nationalists
16% - Conservatives
12.9% - Neoliberals
6.8% - Far Left
4.8% - Christian-Democrats
4.1% - Liberals
2.6% - Greens

3.9% - "Others"
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Interesting, when contrasted with Finland's.
https://images.cdn.yle.fi/image/upload//w_1198,h_674,f_auto,fl_lossy,q_auto/13-3-9654881.png

KOK = Coalition (Center-right)
KESK = Center Party
SDP = Social Democrats
VIHR = Green Party
PS =True Finns (Nationalists, split up into True Finns and New Choice recently)
VAS = Leftists
RKP = Swedish Party
KD = Christian Democrats
Muut = "Others"
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I wish america had this many viable choices and parties
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I really hope that the greens fails.
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Thompson posted...

Interesting, when contrasted with Finland's.
https://images.cdn.yle.fi/image/upload//w_1198,h_674,f_auto,fl_lossy,q_auto/13-3-9654881.png

Yeah, quite a difference :O


deanshow posted...

I wish america had this many viable choices and parties

I think it creates a bigger need for cooperation and compromise between politicians. Also a bigger need to actually do what you promise since voters got other options if they feel betrayed.



Foppe posted...

I really hope that the greens fails.

I keep forgetting they are part of the Government. They are so anonymous.
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Which party is the far-right one? The Nationalists?

Also

deanshow posted...

I wish america had this many viable choices and parties

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Has the Social Democratic Party swung towards the center in recent decades, a la the Democrats in the US and Labour under Blair?
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Solar_Crimson posted...

Which party is the far-right one? The Nationalists?

Correct.
The Conservatives have lost closer to half their voter base since 2010 and the majority have gone to the Nationalists. A fair amount have gone to the Neoliberals as well.


Antifar posted...

Has the Social Democratic Party swung towards the center in recent decades, a la the Democrats in the US and Labour under Blair?

Yes and no. They moved to the center on economic issues during the 90's but they became less strict on military and law enforcement during the same time. Now they are moving back towards the left on economic policies but going more strict on immigration and being stronger supporters of the military and the police. The Socialdemocrats have always supported a mixed economy (in various degrees) though.
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Upp
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BalanceLost posted...

Thompson posted...

Interesting, when contrasted with Finland's.
https://images.cdn.yle.fi/image/upload//w_1198,h_674,f_auto,fl_lossy,q_auto/13-3-9654881.png

Yeah, quite a difference :O


deanshow posted...

I wish america had this many viable choices and parties

I think it creates a bigger need for cooperation and compromise between politicians. Also a bigger need to actually do what you promise since voters got other options if they feel betrayed.



Foppe posted...

I really hope that the greens fails.

I keep forgetting they are part of the Government. They are so anonymous.

And yet they got the Socialdemocrates by their balls.
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Which is why Löfven closed the border, isn't closing Bromma airport etc? He is increasingly ignoring them it seems ever since their first year together.
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And the raise of taxation of "dirty" cars?
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Foppe posted...

And the raise of taxation of "dirty" cars?

I wouldn't call a policy like that "having someone by the balls". Compromise happen in a coalition. It did during the Reinfeldt administration too - like the same sex marriage bill. The opposition presented it since KD refused to let Alliansen put it forward.
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I think the general US population would be more interested in actively following politics if there were more viable parties like Sweden has.

Instead, we basically just get most people who make a decision they see as very black & white (you're either Democrat or Republican) and then do their best to just ignore everything for 4 years. I know there's a ton of unrest in the country right now, but it's still a very small percentage of the population that's actively involved and almost all of it is just a series of knee-jerk reactions from both sides.

And there would definitely be a lot more cooperation, like BalanceLost said. One side couldn't just look at the other and go "fuck those guys, we're just gonna win a majority and then we won't need them" because no single party would be able to have a stable majority when it's split among 4 or 5 different parties. You'd be lucky to get a single party with even 40% control. It would go from "I'm not going to cooperate because I don't need to" and turn into "who am I going to cooperate with to get this done?" And that changes the whole mindset behind policy.
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Aristoph posted...

I think the general US population would be more interested in actively following politics if there were more viable parties like Sweden has.

Instead, we basically just get most people who make a decision they see as very black & white (you're either Democrat or Republican) and then do their best to just ignore everything for 4 years. I know there's a ton of unrest in the country right now, but it's still a very small percentage of the population that's actively involved and almost all of it is just a series of knee-jerk reactions from both sides.

And there would definitely be a lot more cooperation, like BalanceLost said. One side couldn't just look at the other and go "fuck those guys, we're just gonna win a majority and then we won't need them" because no single party would be able to have a stable majority when it's split among 4 or 5 different parties. You'd be lucky to get a single party with even 40% control. It would go from "I'm not going to cooperate because I don't need to" and turn into "who am I going to cooperate with to get this done?" And that changes the whole mindset behind policy.

Very well said. Sure, there will always be political discord but the level of it depend on what kind of system you have imo.
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Night bump
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A newspaper published this picture of the leaders of the traditional Right <_<

https://imgs.aftonbladet-cdn.se/v2/images/f685e438-8f99-4047-a4e0-4b183d86a608?fit=crop&h=389&w=700&s=2a6a235871dcd4d1b940f07925c48070d101653f
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Is it an accurate representation?
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Thompson posted...

Is it an accurate representation?

It is right now tbh. They are so desperate to score political wins that they act like clowns, abuse "consitutional weapons" and also shoot themselves in the foot at the same time.
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Another poll:

30% - Socialdemocrats
18.3% - Nationalists
16.2% - Conservatives
12.4% - Neoliberals
6.4% - Far Left
6.2% - Liberals
4.1% - Greens
3.6% - Christian Democrats
3% - "Others"
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how conservative are conservatives? and are nationalists more or less conservative than them?
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ThyCorndog posted...

how conservative are conservatives? and are nationalists more or less conservative than them?

It is easier to answer this on specific issues.

The Nationalists end goal is a Sweden without non-Nordic immigrants. They also detest homosexuals and want to make abortions illegal. But they are more socialist than the Conservatives on issues regarding social safety nets for example. The Nationalist party was openly neo-nazi until the start of the new millenium. The Conservative party was formed back in the day to preserve the influence of the nobles and the rich. So they have different outlooks on many issues.
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oh, okay. I get it

do the neoliberals tend to side more with conservatives or with social democrats? I figure coalitions and stuff happen there
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ThyCorndog posted...

oh, okay. I get it

do the neoliberals tend to side more with conservatives or with social democrats? I figure coalitions and stuff happen there

They were more likely to side with the Socialdemocrats up until 2003-2004. The Conservatives, Neoliberals, Liberals and Christian Democrats formed a coalition then and governed 2006-2014. The Neoliberals still keep themselves allied with the Conservatives but there is a growing schism between them and the Neolibs say they will support the Socialdemocrats over a Government where the Nationalists hold positions (this is a warning to the Conservatives to choose their partners wisely going forward).
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so basically the fact that nationalists side with conservatives is what keeps neoliberals from siding with conservatives against socialdems? interesting
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ThyCorndog posted...

so basically the fact that nationalists side with conservatives is what keeps neoliberals from siding with conservatives against socialdems? interesting

Pretty much! If the Conservatives decide to ally themselves with the Nationalists then the Neoliberals are out and will instead support the Socialdemocrats.
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