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Antifar 08/16/17 7:43:55 PM #1:	http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2017/08/what_the_alt_left_was_actually_doing_in_charlottesville.html Brandy Daniels Postdoctoral fellow at the Luce Project on Religion and Its Publics at UVA ... While one obviously can’t objectively say what a kind of alternate reality or “sliding doors”–type situation would have been, one can hypothesize or theorize. Based on what was happening all around, the looks on their faces, the sheer number of them, and the weapons they were wielding, my hypothesis or theory is that had the antifa not stepped in, those of us standing on the steps would definitely have been injured, very likely gravely so. On Democracy Now, Cornel West, who was also in the line with us, said that he felt that the antifa saved his life. I didn’t roll my eyes at that statement or see it as an exaggeration—I saw it as a very reasonable hypothesis based on the facts we had. Rabbi Rachel Schmelkin Congregation Beth Israel There was a group of antifa defending First United Methodist Church right outside in their parking lot, and at one point the white supremacists came by and antifa chased them off with sticks. Rebekah Menning Charlottesville resident I stood with a group of interfaith clergy and other people of faith in a nonviolent direct action meant to keep the white nationalists from entering the park to their hate rally. We had far fewer people holding the line than we had hoped for, and frankly, it wasn’t enough. No police officers in sight (that I could see from where I stood), and we were prepared to be beaten to a bloody pulp to show that while the state permitted white nationalists to rally in hate, in the many names of God, we did not. But we didn’t have to because the anarchists and anti-fascists got to them before they could get to us. I’ve never felt more grateful and more ashamed at the same time. The antifa were like angels to me in that moment. Rev. Seth Wispelwey Directing minister of Restoration Village Arts and consulting organizer for Congregate C'ville I am a pastor in Charlottesville, and antifa saved my life twice on Saturday. Indeed, they saved many lives from psychological and physical violence—I believe the body count could have been much worse, as hard as that is to believe. Thankfully, we had robust community defense standing up to white supremacist violence this past weekend. Incredibly brave students held space at the University of Virginia and stared down a torch-lit mob that vastly outnumbered them on Friday night. On Saturday, battalions of anti-fascist protesters came together on my city’s streets to thwart the tide of men carrying weapons, shields, and Trump flags and sporting MAGA hats and Hitler salutes and waving Nazi flags and the pro-slavery “stars and bars.” ... A phalanx of neo-Nazis shoved right through our human wall with 3-foot-wide wooden shields, screaming and spitting homophobic slurs and obscenities at us. It was then that antifa stepped in to thwart them. They have their tools to achieve their purposes, and they are not ones I will personally use, but let me stress that our purposes were the same: block this violent tide and do not let it take the pedestal. --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:884908005] in Witnesses ... [t:75678286]...</cite> <quote>http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2017/08/what_the_alt_left_was_actually_doing_in_charlottesville.html <quote>Brandy Daniels Postdoctoral fellow at the Luce Project on Religion and Its Publics at UVA ... <quote>While one obviously can’t objectively say what a kind of alternate reality or “sliding doors”–type situation would have been, one can hypothesize or theorize. Based on what was happening all around, the looks on their faces, the sheer number of them, and the weapons they were wielding, my hypothesis or theory is that had the antifa not stepped in, those of us standing on the steps would definitely have been injured, very likely gravely so. On Democracy Now, Cornel West, who was also in the line with us, said that he felt that the antifa saved his life. I didn’t roll my eyes at that statement or see it as an exaggeration—I saw it as a very reasonable hypothesis based on the facts we had.</quote> Rabbi Rachel Schmelkin Congregation Beth Israel <quote>There was a group of antifa defending First United Methodist Church right outside in their parking lot, and at one point the white supremacists came by and antifa chased them off with sticks. </quote> Rebekah Menning Charlottesville resident <quote>I stood with a group of interfaith clergy and other people of faith in a nonviolent direct action meant to keep the white nationalists from entering the park to their hate rally. We had far fewer people holding the line than we had hoped for, and frankly, it wasn’t enough. No police officers in sight (that I could see from where I stood), and we were prepared to be beaten to a bloody pulp to show that while the state permitted white nationalists to rally in hate, in the many names of God, we did not. But we didn’t have to because the anarchists and anti-fascists got to them before they could get to us. I’ve never felt more grateful and more ashamed at the same time. The antifa were like angels to me in that moment.</quote> Rev. Seth Wispelwey Directing minister of Restoration Village Arts and consulting organizer for Congregate C'ville <quote>I am a pastor in Charlottesville, and antifa saved my life twice on Saturday. Indeed, they saved many lives from psychological and physical violence—I believe the body count could have been much worse, as hard as that is to believe. Thankfully, we had robust community defense standing up to white supremacist violence this past weekend. Incredibly brave students held space at the University of Virginia and stared down a torch-lit mob that vastly outnumbered them on Friday night. On Saturday, battalions of anti-fascist protesters came together on my city’s streets to thwart the tide of men carrying weapons, shields, and Trump flags and sporting MAGA hats and Hitler salutes and waving Nazi flags and the pro-slavery “stars and bars.” ... A phalanx of neo-Nazis shoved right through our human wall with 3-foot-wide wooden shields, screaming and spitting homophobic slurs and obscenities at us. It was then that antifa stepped in to thwart them. They have their tools to achieve their purposes, and they are not ones I will personally use, but let me stress that our purposes were the same: block this violent tide and do not let it take the pedestal.</quote></quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 08/16/17 7:44:38 PM #2:	this has been posted but that's okay --- He would make his mark, if not on this tree, then on that wall; if not with teeth and claws, then with penknife and razor. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:884908044] in Witnesses ... [t:75678286]...</cite> <quote>this has been posted but that's okay</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 08/16/17 7:45:40 PM #3:	lol whoops --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:884908105] in Witnesses ... [t:75678286]...</cite> <quote>lol whoops</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Phantom_Nook 08/16/17 7:51:51 PM #5:	Both sides are bad tho!!! --- Posted with GameRaven 3.2.1 <cite>Phantom_Nook posted [p:884908450] in Witnesses ... [t:75678286]...</cite> <quote>Both sides are bad tho!!!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PrettyBoyFloyd 08/16/17 7:57:48 PM #6:	Republicans are more than likely to criticize the Modern Nazis than the Democrats criticizing AntiFa, no matter what they do, just because they are on the same team. That's just the way it is and going to be. --- The Evil Republicans - Est.2004 - WoT [Government Destabilizing Branch] <cite>PrettyBoyFloyd posted [p:884908796] in Witnesses ... [t:75678286]...</cite> <quote>Republicans are more than likely to criticize the Modern Nazis than the Democrats criticizing AntiFa, no matter what they do, just because they are on the same team. That's just the way it is and going to be.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 08/16/17 7:59:26 PM #7:	PrettyBoyFloyd posted... the Democrats criticizing AntiFa, no matter what they do, just because they are on the same team. I think most antifa folks would disagree with the notion that they share a team with Democrats --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:884908903] in Witnesses ... [t:75678286]...</cite> <quote><cite>PrettyBoyFloyd posted...</cite> <quote>the Democrats criticizing AntiFa, no matter what they do, just because they are on the same team. </quote> I think most antifa folks would disagree with the notion that they share a team with Democrats</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 08/16/17 8:04:09 PM #8:	"From Germans already living in Poland the SS formed militias of men whose grievances with the indigenous population reached murderous levels with astonishing ease, and bands of "red legs" of this sort, obeying only the orders of their hearts, began organized shooting parties. The size of the payback for alleged Polish atrocities was 4,247 on October 7; by November, in Klammer, two thousand had been added; near Mniszek ten thousand more Poles and Jews of every age and sex were shot at the edges of the gravel pits that were to serve for their graves; in a wood near Karlshof, eight thousand more were massacred. The cleansing continued, picking up speed as efficiencies improved. Finding so many murderers among ordinary people had not proved difficult." --- He would make his mark, if not on this tree, then on that wall; if not with teeth and claws, then with penknife and razor. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:884909158] in Witnesses ... [t:75678286]...</cite> <quote>"From Germans already living in Poland the SS formed militias of men whose grievances with the indigenous population reached murderous levels with astonishing ease, and bands of "red legs" of this sort, obeying only the orders of their hearts, began organized shooting parties. The size of the payback for alleged Polish atrocities was 4,247 on October 7; by November, in Klammer, two thousand had been added; near Mniszek ten thousand more Poles and Jews of every age and sex were shot at the edges of the gravel pits that were to serve for their graves; in a wood near Karlshof, eight thousand more were massacred. The cleansing continued, picking up speed as efficiencies improved. Finding so many murderers among ordinary people had not proved difficult."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ItsYourFault 08/16/17 8:05:03 PM #9:	Balrog0 posted... this has been posted but that's okay let the usuals see @Mal_Fet @Caution999 <cite>ItsYourFault posted [p:884909214] in Witnesses ... [t:75678286]...</cite> <quote><cite>Balrog0 posted...</cite> <quote>this has been posted but that's okay</quote> let the usuals see @Mal_Fet @Caution999</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Samurontai 08/16/17 8:05:47 PM #10:	Is Mal banned again? --- http://i.imgur.com/Scl5rwX.gif http://i.imgur.com/Fjgt7Qq.gif http://i.imgur.com/NidhAni.gif http://i.imgur.com/IGIbQPk.gif <cite>Samurontai posted [p:884909259] in Witnesses ... [t:75678286]...</cite> <quote>Is Mal banned again?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NeonOctopus 08/16/17 8:07:29 PM #11:	Does Antifa still fight with bikelocks or was that just that one dude? >_> --- http://i.imgur.com/nlaY1qH.jpg http://i.imgur.com/zHJ1OCo.gif http://i.imgur.com/btBPP4E.jpg http://i.imgur.com/1B3bMHw.gif <cite>NeonOctopus posted [p:884909337] in Witnesses ... [t:75678286]...</cite> <quote>Does Antifa still fight with bikelocks or was that just that one dude? >_></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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yemmy 08/16/17 8:07:55 PM #13:	lol they deserve a medal BLM too --- p226 <cite>yemmy posted [p:884909361] in Witnesses ... [t:75678286]...</cite> <quote>lol they deserve a medal BLM too</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 08/16/17 8:21:36 PM #14:	is this particular mistreatment of the jews the result of nazi propaganda or even of ancient misgivings? is something more going on? because even if I think no better of my neighbor than I do my dog, I treat my dog rather well, and can spend time to feed her, pet her, train her, walk her around. even if I regard my neighbor as a leper, I might be expected to wish no more from him than removal from the colony... perhaps it is how well organized and sponsored these massacres were that makes them so special. they were a real corporate enterprise, involving the apparatus of a nation-state. On the other hand, Croats, Hungarians, Romanians, including the Poles that were picked on, even the French and Dutch Nazis, eagerly helped out. There are several strategies one might employ for lessening the guilt of the Germans without denying the occurrence of their crimes... Heilbrun remarks that, "the further the Holocaust recedes into the past, the more its being exploited to create a narrative of redemption." Recently, stories of German opposition to the Nazis have become particularly popular. There is, however, little that is exotic or particularly daring about the leaflet campaigns Social Democrats managed to set going as late as the summer of 1934. Evans, in his second volume, points out, "by this time, almost all the other leading Social Democrats who had remained in Germany were in prison, in a concentration camp, silent, or dead." Even those who would endeavor to kill Hitler were mostly motivated by their conviction that Germany was finally losing the war, rather than any deep-seated rejection of his policies... Although one dead fly may ruin a porridge, an innocent olive will not render benevolent a poisoned glass. --- He would make his mark, if not on this tree, then on that wall; if not with teeth and claws, then with penknife and razor. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:884910151] in Witnesses ... [t:75678286]...</cite> <quote>is this particular mistreatment of the jews the result of nazi propaganda or even of ancient misgivings? is something more going on? because even if I think no better of my neighbor than I do my dog, I treat my dog rather well, and can spend time to feed her, pet her, train her, walk her around. even if I regard my neighbor as a leper, I might be expected to wish no more from him than removal from the colony... perhaps it is how well organized and sponsored these massacres were that makes them so special. they were a real corporate enterprise, involving the apparatus of a nation-state. On the other hand, Croats, Hungarians, Romanians, including the Poles that were picked on, even the French and Dutch Nazis, eagerly helped out. There are several strategies one might employ for lessening the guilt of the Germans without denying the occurrence of their crimes... Heilbrun remarks that, "the further the Holocaust recedes into the past, the more its being exploited to create a narrative of redemption." Recently, stories of German opposition to the Nazis have become particularly popular. There is, however, little that is exotic or particularly daring about the leaflet campaigns Social Democrats managed to set going as late as the summer of 1934. Evans, in his second volume, points out, "by this time, almost all the other leading Social Democrats who had remained in Germany were in prison, in a concentration camp, silent, or dead." Even those who would endeavor to kill Hitler were mostly motivated by their conviction that Germany was finally losing the war, rather than any deep-seated rejection of his policies... Although one dead fly may ruin a porridge, an innocent olive will not render benevolent a poisoned glass.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sephiroth1288 08/16/17 8:27:07 PM #15:	I quite distinctly remember seeing footage an Antifa thug using a homemade flamethrower on protesters, but yeah ok all they were doing was protecting churches, lmao --- The person who writes for fools is always sure of a large audience. Friend Code: 2723-9696-7248 <cite>Sephiroth1288 posted [p:884910458] in Witnesses ... [t:75678286]...</cite> <quote>I quite distinctly remember seeing footage an Antifa thug using a homemade flamethrower on protesters, but yeah ok all they were doing was protecting churches, lmao</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 08/16/17 8:28:54 PM #16:	Sephiroth1288 posted... I quite distinctly remember seeing footage an Antifa thug using a homemade flamethrower on protesters, but yeah ok all they were doing was protecting churches, lmao http://www.theroot.com/interview-how-corey-long-fought-white-supremacy-with-f-1797831277/amp The 23-year-old elder care worker says he went to the counterprotests to have his voice heard. He didn’t want to see racism win and destroy the city he was raised in. “I went out to voice my opinion. To have my freedom of speech. Just like the racist Nazis who took over my town,” Long said in an interview with The Root. But what started out as a peaceful protest eventually turned violent. And Long says the cops stood around and did nothing. “At first it was peaceful protest,” Long said softly as he spoke. “Until someone pointed a gun at my head. Then the same person pointed it at my foot and shot the ground.” Long said the only weapon he had was a can of spray paint that a white supremacist threw at him earlier, so he took a lighter to the spray paint and turned it into a flame thrower. And a photographer snapped the photo. But inside every photograph is an untold story. If you look closely at Long’s picture, there’s an elderly white man standing in between Long and his friend. The unknown man was part of the counterprotests, too, but was afraid, and Long and his friends were trying to protect him. Even though, Long says, those who were paid to protect the residents of Charlottesville were doing just the opposite. “The cops were protecting the Nazis, instead of the people who live in the city,” Long said. “The cops basically just stood in their line and looked at the chaos. The cops were not protecting the people of Charlottesville. They were protecting the outsiders.” --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:884910551] in Witnesses ... [t:75678286]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sephiroth1288 posted...</cite> <quote>I quite distinctly remember seeing footage an Antifa thug using a homemade flamethrower on protesters, but yeah ok all they were doing was protecting churches, lmao </quote> http://www.theroot.com/interview-how-corey-long-fought-white-supremacy-with-f-1797831277/amp <quote>The 23-year-old elder care worker says he went to the counterprotests to have his voice heard. He didn’t want to see racism win and destroy the city he was raised in. “I went out to voice my opinion. To have my freedom of speech. Just like the racist Nazis who took over my town,” Long said in an interview with The Root. But what started out as a peaceful protest eventually turned violent. And Long says the cops stood around and did nothing. “At first it was peaceful protest,” Long said softly as he spoke. “Until someone pointed a gun at my head. Then the same person pointed it at my foot and shot the ground.” Long said the only weapon he had was a can of spray paint that a white supremacist threw at him earlier, so he took a lighter to the spray paint and turned it into a flame thrower. And a photographer snapped the photo. But inside every photograph is an untold story. If you look closely at Long’s picture, there’s an elderly white man standing in between Long and his friend. The unknown man was part of the counterprotests, too, but was afraid, and Long and his friends were trying to protect him. Even though, Long says, those who were paid to protect the residents of Charlottesville were doing just the opposite. “The cops were protecting the Nazis, instead of the people who live in the city,” Long said. “The cops basically just stood in their line and looked at the chaos. The cops were not protecting the people of Charlottesville. They were protecting the outsiders.”</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 08/16/17 8:30:52 PM #17:	still, one excuse that I rather like is the presumption that any group of people, finding themselves in the same sort of situation, their histories stocked with similar resentments, would act in a comparably vengeful fashion. suppose that i have been a pitiful, powerless person my whole life, and the child of similarly helpless victims of war, humiliation, and economic collapse. now, suddenly, finally, i carry your life in my holster, i can act with impunity and at a whim, but i must remind the world of my elevation with repeated demonstrations, the more vulgar, petty, and disgusting the better. so after i have raped this polish-turkish-greek-gypsy girl, who certainly deserved it, i shall invent sadistic extras to demand of her: that she cleans the public latrines with her blouse. jewish bystanders will be required to doff their silly hats. polish scum will be made to lie in the mud and kiss dirt. while they are thus prone, I shall try not to wobble as i walk on them, but they are incorrigibly lumpy --- He would make his mark, if not on this tree, then on that wall; if not with teeth and claws, then with penknife and razor. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:884910660] in Witnesses ... [t:75678286]...</cite> <quote>still, one excuse that I rather like is the presumption that any group of people, finding themselves in the same sort of situation, their histories stocked with similar resentments, would act in a comparably vengeful fashion. suppose that i have been a pitiful, powerless person my whole life, and the child of similarly helpless victims of war, humiliation, and economic collapse. now, suddenly, finally, i carry your life in my holster, i can act with impunity and at a whim, but i must remind the world of my elevation with repeated demonstrations, the more vulgar, petty, and disgusting the better. so after i have raped this polish-turkish-greek-gypsy girl, who certainly deserved it, i shall invent sadistic extras to demand of her: that she cleans the public latrines with her blouse. jewish bystanders will be required to doff their silly hats. polish scum will be made to lie in the mud and kiss dirt. while they are thus prone, I shall try not to wobble as i walk on them, but they are incorrigibly lumpy</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sephiroth1288 08/16/17 8:31:10 PM #18:	Yeah, that's why you bring an aerosol flamethrower to a counter-protest. To "defend yourself". Every violent thug will proclaim their innocence. What's an interview on The Root supposed to prove here? --- The person who writes for fools is always sure of a large audience. Friend Code: 2723-9696-7248 <cite>Sephiroth1288 posted [p:884910674] in Witnesses ... [t:75678286]...</cite> <quote>Yeah, that's why you bring an aerosol flamethrower to a counter-protest. To "defend yourself". Every violent thug will proclaim their innocence. What's an interview on The Root supposed to prove here?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tremain07 08/16/17 8:31:21 PM #19:	Sephiroth1288 posted... I quite distinctly remember seeing footage an Antifa thug using a homemade flamethrower on protesters, but yeah ok all they were doing was protecting churches, lmao Mind sharing that footage? I'm sure Fox News or Youtube or everyone itching to justify or downplay the supremacists actions last week would love this. Go make some money guy and give the right some talking points about how the alt-left won't air or discuss this footage and how it only proves what fake news CNN and MSNBC are and hell, Donald Trump himself would tweet the video showing that what he said was absolutely right in the first place. Seriously, how has footage like this not blowing up especially on places like CE and 261 where shitting on leftists's high horses is a favorite pass time. --- I got nothing <cite>tremain07 posted [p:884910685] in Witnesses ... [t:75678286]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sephiroth1288 posted...</cite> <quote>I quite distinctly remember seeing footage an Antifa thug using a homemade flamethrower on protesters, but yeah ok all they were doing was protecting churches, lmao</quote> Mind sharing that footage? I'm sure Fox News or Youtube or everyone itching to justify or downplay the supremacists actions last week would love this. Go make some money guy and give the right some talking points about how the alt-left won't air or discuss this footage and how it only proves what fake news CNN and MSNBC are and hell, Donald Trump himself would tweet the video showing that what he said was absolutely right in the first place. Seriously, how has footage like this not blowing up especially on places like CE and 261 where shitting on leftists's high horses is a favorite pass time.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Caution999 08/16/17 8:31:40 PM #20:	What a shock that AntiFar is an AntiFa sympathizer. Dude: Just admit it. You're part of AntiFa. I mean, the username is a dead giveaway. @Antifar Let's get it out in the open, coward. --- "Impossible is just a word to let people feel good about themselves when they quit." - Vyse, Skies of Arcadia <cite>Caution999 posted [p:884910702] in Witnesses ... [t:75678286]...</cite> <quote>What a shock that AntiFar is an AntiFa sympathizer. Dude: Just admit it. You're part of AntiFa. I mean, the username is a dead giveaway. @Antifar Let's get it out in the open, coward.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 08/16/17 8:32:17 PM #21:	Sephiroth1288 posted... Yeah, that's why you bring an aerosol flamethrower to a counter-protest He didn't bring it. The spray paint can was thrown at him --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:884910733] in Witnesses ... [t:75678286]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sephiroth1288 posted...</cite> <quote>Yeah, that's why you bring an aerosol flamethrower to a counter-protest</quote> He didn't bring it. The spray paint can was thrown at him</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 08/16/17 8:33:17 PM #22:	Caution999 posted... What a shock that AntiFar is an AntiFa sympathizer. Dude: Just admit it. You're part of AntiFa. I mean, the username is a dead giveaway. @Antifar Let's get it out in the open, coward. 1. This username was created years before I knew what antifa was 2. I support them 3. It's not an organization one can be a part of; it's a tactic. --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:884910807] in Witnesses ... [t:75678286]...</cite> <quote><cite>Caution999 posted...</cite> <quote>What a shock that AntiFar is an AntiFa sympathizer. Dude: Just admit it. You're part of AntiFa. I mean, the username is a dead giveaway. @Antifar Let's get it out in the open, coward.</quote> 1. This username was created years before I knew what antifa was 2. I support them 3. It's not an organization one can be a part of; it's a tactic.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Caution999 08/16/17 8:33:43 PM #23:	Ok, so the cat is out of the bag. You're a traitor to the country. WHEW SO PROUD --- "Impossible is just a word to let people feel good about themselves when they quit." - Vyse, Skies of Arcadia <cite>Caution999 posted [p:884910833] in Witnesses ... [t:75678286]...</cite> <quote>Ok, so the cat is out of the bag. You're a traitor to the country. WHEW SO PROUD</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 08/16/17 8:33:47 PM #24:	Sephiroth1288 posted... Yeah, that's why you bring an aerosol flamethrower to a counter-protest. To "defend yourself". Every violent thug will proclaim their innocence. What's an interview on The Root supposed to prove here? He didn't even bring the spray paint, numb nuts. It was thrown at him and he was shot at. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:884910836] in Witnesses ... [t:75678286]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sephiroth1288 posted...</cite> <quote>Yeah, that's why you bring an aerosol flamethrower to a counter-protest. To "defend yourself". Every violent thug will proclaim their innocence. What's an interview on The Root supposed to prove here?</quote> He didn't even bring the spray paint, numb nuts. It was thrown at him and he was shot at.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sephiroth1288 08/16/17 8:34:15 PM #25:	Antifar posted... Sephiroth1288 posted... Yeah, that's why you bring an aerosol flamethrower to a counter-protest He didn't bring it. The spray paint can was thrown at him According to him --- The person who writes for fools is always sure of a large audience. Friend Code: 2723-9696-7248 <cite>Sephiroth1288 posted [p:884910860] in Witnesses ... [t:75678286]...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sephiroth1288 posted...</cite> <quote>Yeah, that's why you bring an aerosol flamethrower to a counter-protest</quote> He didn't bring it. The spray paint can was thrown at him</quote> According to him</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 08/16/17 8:34:24 PM #26:	Caution999 posted... You're a traitor to the country. So was Robert E. Lee. --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:884910867] in Witnesses ... [t:75678286]...</cite> <quote><cite>Caution999 posted...</cite> <quote>You're a traitor to the country. </quote> So was Robert E. Lee.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 08/16/17 8:35:19 PM #27:	Antifar posted... Caution999 posted... You're a traitor to the country. So was Robert E. Lee. Yeah, but you are allowed to be a traitor if you side with your state even though they want to own black people. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:884910930] in Witnesses ... [t:75678286]...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Caution999 posted...</cite> <quote>You're a traitor to the country. </quote> So was Robert E. Lee.</quote> Yeah, but you are allowed to be a traitor if you side with your state even though they want to own black people.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Caution999 08/16/17 8:35:26 PM #28:	I don't care about Robert E. Lee. Like the rest of normal society, I leave that page in history since it was like 150+ years ago. Furthermore, Lincoln ABSOLVED the south. They were forgiven. Lee was forgiven. --- "Impossible is just a word to let people feel good about themselves when they quit." - Vyse, Skies of Arcadia <cite>Caution999 posted [p:884910939] in Witnesses ... [t:75678286]...</cite> <quote>I don't care about Robert E. Lee. Like the rest of normal society, I leave that page in history since it was like 150+ years ago. Furthermore, Lincoln ABSOLVED the south. They were forgiven. Lee was forgiven.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 08/16/17 8:35:49 PM #29:	I forgive you, Antifar --- He would make his mark, if not on this tree, then on that wall; if not with teeth and claws, then with penknife and razor. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:884910957] in Witnesses ... [t:75678286]...</cite> <quote>I forgive you, Antifar</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sephiroth1288 08/16/17 8:35:50 PM #30:	Antifar posted... Caution999 posted... You're a traitor to the country. So was Robert E. Lee. Careful, Antifa will string you up if they believe you support Robert E Lee. --- The person who writes for fools is always sure of a large audience. Friend Code: 2723-9696-7248 <cite>Sephiroth1288 posted [p:884910958] in Witnesses ... [t:75678286]...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Caution999 posted...</cite> <quote>You're a traitor to the country. </quote> So was Robert E. Lee.</quote> Careful, Antifa will string you up if they believe you support Robert E Lee.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThanksUglyGod 08/16/17 8:38:50 PM #31:	Sephiroth1288 posted... Antifar posted... Sephiroth1288 posted... Yeah, that's why you bring an aerosol flamethrower to a counter-protest He didn't bring it. The spray paint can was thrown at him According to him So just to be clear, you're defending the Neo-Nazis over the elderly care worker? <cite>ThanksUglyGod posted [p:884911126] in Witnesses ... [t:75678286]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sephiroth1288 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sephiroth1288 posted...</cite> <quote>Yeah, that's why you bring an aerosol flamethrower to a counter-protest</quote> He didn't bring it. The spray paint can was thrown at him</quote> According to him</quote> So just to be clear, you're defending the Neo-Nazis over the elderly care worker?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dragonblade01 08/16/17 8:39:18 PM #32:	I do not support any group that is involved in the continued cyclical degradation of civil peace in this country. --- PSN: kazukifafner <cite>Dragonblade01 posted [p:884911156] in Witnesses ... [t:75678286]...</cite> <quote>I do not support any group that is involved in the continued cyclical degradation of civil peace in this country.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bloodychess 08/16/17 8:39:44 PM #33:	Antifar posted... http://www.slate. Don't have to go any further, I already know what's going to be said --- Sweet dreams are made of cheese Who am I to diss a brie? <cite>Bloodychess posted [p:884911177] in Witnesses ... [t:75678286]...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>http://www.slate.</quote> Don't have to go any further, I already know what's going to be said</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AmonAmarth 08/16/17 8:41:10 PM #34:	using slate and now supporting antifa antifar I thought you were better than that. --- i7-4790@ 3.6GHZ \| GA-Z97-HD3 \| ASUS GTX 960 2GB \| Samsung 850 EVO 250GB \| 1TB HDD \| CX750M \| 12GB DDR3 <cite>AmonAmarth posted [p:884911269] in Witnesses ... [t:75678286]...</cite> <quote>using slate and now supporting antifa antifar I thought you were better than that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OpheliaAdenade 08/16/17 8:41:28 PM #35:	isn't fighting fascism a good thing? --- http://imgur.com/Q6Qj55q <cite>OpheliaAdenade posted [p:884911288] in Witnesses ... [t:75678286]...</cite> <quote>isn't fighting fascism a good thing?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sephiroth1288 08/16/17 8:41:57 PM #36:	ThanksUglyGod posted... Sephiroth1288 posted... Antifar posted... Sephiroth1288 posted... Yeah, that's why you bring an aerosol flamethrower to a counter-protest He didn't bring it. The spray paint can was thrown at him According to him So just to be clear, you're defending the Neo-Nazis over the elderly care worker? The elderly care worker who modified a spray paint can to shoot fire and was clearly not hiding when he used it, contrary to what he says in the interview? I don't like Nazis but that doesn't mean this guy is telling the truth. Why is it so hard to accept that Antifa sucks too? Do you support destruction of property because your candidate lost an election? Does that mean you would support the right doing what Antifa does if Trump loses in 2020? --- The person who writes for fools is always sure of a large audience. Friend Code: 2723-9696-7248 <cite>Sephiroth1288 posted [p:884911320] in Witnesses ... [t:75678286]...</cite> <quote><cite>ThanksUglyGod posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sephiroth1288 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sephiroth1288 posted...</cite> <quote>Yeah, that's why you bring an aerosol flamethrower to a counter-protest</quote> He didn't bring it. The spray paint can was thrown at him</quote> According to him</quote> So just to be clear, you're defending the Neo-Nazis over the elderly care worker?</quote> The elderly care worker who modified a spray paint can to shoot fire and was clearly not hiding when he used it, contrary to what he says in the interview? I don't like Nazis but that doesn't mean this guy is telling the truth. Why is it so hard to accept that Antifa sucks too? Do you support destruction of property because your candidate lost an election? Does that mean you would support the right doing what Antifa does if Trump loses in 2020?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 08/16/17 8:42:36 PM #37:	Bloodychess posted... Antifar posted... http://www.slate. Don't have to go any further, I already know what's going to be said AmonAmarth posted... using slate Do you guys doubt the reporting? --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:884911360] in Witnesses ... [t:75678286]...</cite> <quote><cite>Bloodychess posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>http://www.slate.</quote> Don't have to go any further, I already know what's going to be said</quote> <cite>AmonAmarth posted...</cite> <quote>using slate </quote> Do you guys doubt the reporting?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sephiroth1288 08/16/17 8:44:12 PM #38:	Antifar posted... Do you guys doubt the reporting? Slate came out as anti-science when they denounced the field of evolutionary biology. Of-fucking-course I doubt their reporting. Why don't you? --- The person who writes for fools is always sure of a large audience. Friend Code: 2723-9696-7248 <cite>Sephiroth1288 posted [p:884911452] in Witnesses ... [t:75678286]...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>Do you guys doubt the reporting?</quote> Slate came out as anti-science when they denounced the field of evolutionary biology. Of-fucking-course I doubt their reporting. Why don't you?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 08/16/17 8:44:29 PM #39:	Sephiroth1288 posted... The elderly care worker who modified a spray paint can to shoot fire and was clearly not hiding when he used it, contrary to what he says in the interview? I don't like Nazis but that doesn't mean this guy is telling the truth. You mean turned on his lighter, sprayed the paint, and aimed at a bunch of angry Nazis who shot at him. What a fucking criminal mastermind. He's basically Lex Luthor. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:884911472] in Witnesses ... [t:75678286]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sephiroth1288 posted...</cite> <quote> The elderly care worker who modified a spray paint can to shoot fire and was clearly not hiding when he used it, contrary to what he says in the interview? I don't like Nazis but that doesn't mean this guy is telling the truth.</quote> You mean turned on his lighter, sprayed the paint, and aimed at a bunch of angry Nazis who shot at him. What a fucking criminal mastermind. He's basically Lex Luthor.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darkman124 08/16/17 8:44:39 PM #40:	Balrog0 posted... I forgive you, Antifar --- And when the hourglass has run out, eternity asks you about only one thing: whether you have lived in despair or not. <cite>Darkman124 posted [p:884911483] in Witnesses ... [t:75678286]...</cite> <quote><cite>Balrog0 posted...</cite> <quote>I forgive you, Antifar</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AmonAmarth 08/16/17 8:45:09 PM #41:	knowing slate, they probably cherry pick views and they have a clear agenda. --- i7-4790@ 3.6GHZ \| GA-Z97-HD3 \| ASUS GTX 960 2GB \| Samsung 850 EVO 250GB \| 1TB HDD \| CX750M \| 12GB DDR3 <cite>AmonAmarth posted [p:884911514] in Witnesses ... [t:75678286]...</cite> <quote>knowing slate, they probably cherry pick views and they have a clear agenda.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bloodychess 08/16/17 8:45:26 PM #42:	Antifar posted... Bloodychess posted... Antifar posted... http://www.slate. Don't have to go any further, I already know what's going to be said AmonAmarth posted... using slate Do you guys doubt the reporting? I don't doubt the reporting, I just know they're reporting only what they want to see --- Sweet dreams are made of cheese Who am I to diss a brie? <cite>Bloodychess posted [p:884911531] in Witnesses ... [t:75678286]...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Bloodychess posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>http://www.slate.</quote> Don't have to go any further, I already know what's going to be said</quote> <cite>AmonAmarth posted...</cite> <quote>using slate </quote> Do you guys doubt the reporting?</quote> I don't doubt the reporting, I just know they're reporting only what they want to see</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sephiroth1288 08/16/17 8:45:43 PM #43:	hockeybub89 posted... You mean turned on his lighter, sprayed the paint, and aimed at a bunch of angry Nazis who shot at him. Allegedly. You see any guns in the footage? And if they had guns, why would they stop shooting once the guy starts spraying fire at them? --- The person who writes for fools is always sure of a large audience. Friend Code: 2723-9696-7248 <cite>Sephiroth1288 posted [p:884911543] in Witnesses ... [t:75678286]...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>You mean turned on his lighter, sprayed the paint, and aimed at a bunch of angry Nazis who shot at him.</quote> Allegedly. You see any guns in the footage? And if they had guns, why would they stop shooting once the guy starts spraying fire at them?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 08/16/17 8:45:44 PM #44:	Sephiroth1288 posted... Do you support destruction of property because your candidate lost an election? Hillary Clinton was not my candidate, and at any rate I support direct action regardless of who is in the White House --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:884911545] in Witnesses ... [t:75678286]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sephiroth1288 posted...</cite> <quote> Do you support destruction of property because your candidate lost an election?</quote> Hillary Clinton was not my candidate, and at any rate I support direct action regardless of who is in the White House</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zero_Destroyer 08/16/17 8:46:07 PM #45:	I think the supremacists are worse, but I'm not going to start supporting Antifa because they were the lesser of two evils in this situation: It's hard to forget the fact that they were destroying college campuses and beating people in the streets because Milo was going to speak at a campus. I mean, you really support the tactic when it's led to numerous injuries and a ton of property damage that extend way beyond the last week of clashing? That's silly. --- Enjoy movies and television? Check out my blog! I do reviews and analyses. http://fictionrantreview.wordpress.com/ (The Force Awakens spoiler review up!) <cite>Zero_Destroyer posted [p:884911570] in Witnesses ... [t:75678286]...</cite> <quote>I think the supremacists are worse, but I'm not going to start supporting Antifa because they were the lesser of two evils in this situation: It's hard to forget the fact that they were destroying college campuses and beating people in the streets because Milo was going to speak at a campus. I mean, you really support the tactic when it's led to numerous injuries and a ton of property damage that extend way beyond the last week of clashing? That's silly.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 08/16/17 8:46:54 PM #46:	AmonAmarth posted... knowing slate, they probably cherry pick views and they have a clear agenda. How have we gotten to the point where anti-Nazi views are considered cherry picked? Stop making this partisan or ambiguous in any way. No decent people ever attach a but to Nazi hate. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:884911614] in Witnesses ... [t:75678286]...</cite> <quote><cite>AmonAmarth posted...</cite> <quote>knowing slate, they probably cherry pick views and they have a clear agenda.</quote> How have we gotten to the point where anti-Nazi views are considered cherry picked? Stop making this partisan or ambiguous in any way. No decent people ever attach a but to Nazi hate.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darkman124 08/16/17 8:46:58 PM #47:	Sephiroth1288 posted... Allegedly. isn't all of this allegedly with pretty much none of it containing clear, actionable evidence that would hold up in a court of law --- And when the hourglass has run out, eternity asks you about only one thing: whether you have lived in despair or not. <cite>Darkman124 posted [p:884911616] in Witnesses ... [t:75678286]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sephiroth1288 posted...</cite> <quote>Allegedly. </quote> isn't all of this allegedly with pretty much none of it containing clear, actionable evidence that would hold up in a court of law</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sephiroth1288 08/16/17 8:46:59 PM #48:	Antifar posted... Hillary Clinton was not my candidate, You believe then that Antifa would be out in full force like this if she had won? Of course you don't. Let's not be silly. Antifa totally supports Hillary. --- The person who writes for fools is always sure of a large audience. Friend Code: 2723-9696-7248 <cite>Sephiroth1288 posted [p:884911617] in Witnesses ... [t:75678286]...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>Hillary Clinton was not my candidate, </quote> You believe then that Antifa would be out in full force like this if she had won? Of course you don't. Let's not be silly. Antifa totally supports Hillary.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sephiroth1288 08/16/17 8:47:48 PM #49:	Darkman124 posted... isn't all of this allegedly Since the only evidence of this guy being shot at is him and none of the people he was spraying with fire appear to have guns? Yes, allegedly. --- The person who writes for fools is always sure of a large audience. Friend Code: 2723-9696-7248 <cite>Sephiroth1288 posted [p:884911651] in Witnesses ... [t:75678286]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darkman124 posted...</cite> <quote>isn't all of this allegedly</quote> Since the only evidence of this guy being shot at is him and none of the people he was spraying with fire appear to have guns? Yes, allegedly.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 08/16/17 8:49:31 PM #50:	Sephiroth1288 posted... You believe then that Antifa would be out in full force like this if she had won? Absolutely; I don't think Hillary's election would have done much to discourage folks like the ones in Charlottesville, the ones antifa was opposing. If anything I think they'd be more inclined to view or portray themselves as marginalized, and lash out as a result. --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:884911745] in Witnesses ... [t:75678286]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sephiroth1288 posted...</cite> <quote>You believe then that Antifa would be out in full force like this if she had won?</quote> Absolutely; I don't think Hillary's election would have done much to discourage folks like the ones in Charlottesville, the ones antifa was opposing. If anything I think they'd be more inclined to view or portray themselves as marginalized, and lash out as a result.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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