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Cj_WlLL_VVlN 08/20/17 2:04:36 AM #1: |
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DrizztLink 08/20/17 2:05:27 AM #2: |
I'm Jewish, so I'm pretty sure the defense would thank and excuse me pretty fucking quickly.
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Aristoph 08/20/17 2:08:25 AM #3: |
Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...
Some people deserve it. Sure, some people probably do deserve it. And the guy who beat the shit out of him deserves to face the consequences of his actions too. It's a two-way street. If there's video evidence, and the guy clearly is the one who did it, then he's guilty. Period. You don't get to break laws just because you don't feel like following them. That's not how this works. --- PSN ID: Aristoph http://www.youtube.com/user/SotCRules ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MabusIncarnate 08/20/17 2:08:42 AM #4: |
Assault is assault, it shouldn't matter what the viewpoint and personal beliefs of the person beaten are. The law doesn't state there is different treatment against racists versus non-racists.
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DreadedWave 08/20/17 2:09:52 AM #5: |
Part of living in a society with laws is that you don't just get to ignore them when the victim "deserves it"
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glitteringfairy 08/20/17 2:09:57 AM #6: |
Guilty absolutely
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Aristoph 08/20/17 2:10:15 AM #7: |
MabusIncarnate posted...
Assault is assault, it shouldn't matter what the viewpoint and personal beliefs of the person beaten are. The law doesn't state there is different treatment against racists versus non-racists. Exactly. The only way there could be any debate over the verdict is if there was some kind of evidence that the Nazi who got his shit beat was in some way directly threatening the person who beat him up. --- PSN ID: Aristoph http://www.youtube.com/user/SotCRules ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Unsugarized_Foo 08/20/17 2:10:46 AM #8: |
Im assuming the Nazi was just being a vocal Nazi and not a violent person.
In that case, the person doing the assault is guily. Caving in to emotional satisfaction at the sake of our entire structure of law and philosophy is not wise or something to be proud of. Is a devolution of society and progresses nothing but barbaric tendencies. --- "All I have is my balls and my word, and I don't break them for anyone!"-Tony Montana ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gguirao 08/20/17 2:13:03 AM #9: |
Innocent.
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Dash_Harber 08/20/17 2:13:31 AM #10: |
DrizztLink posted...
I'm Jewish, so I'm pretty sure the defense would thank and excuse me pretty fucking quickly. Word. I'd never attack a Nazi physically, but I'd sure as hell flip him off and tell him to fuck off, or engage him in a heated debate where he makes his stupidity crystal clear for everyone else to witness. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kyurem-BW 08/20/17 2:15:37 AM #11: |
i cant condone vigilanties
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TheMikh 08/20/17 2:20:26 AM #12: |
Can't have double standards with respect to the initiation of force. It's a slippery slope to tyranny and/or chaos.
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gunplagirl 08/20/17 2:25:20 AM #13: |
"Peaceful Nazi" is an oxymoron. It is about as truthful as saying that there's a slight risk to your health if you consume massive amounts of arsenic.
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Cj_WlLL_VVlN 08/20/17 2:25:57 AM #14: |
TheMikh posted...
Can't have double standards with respect to the initiation of force. It's a slippery slope to tyranny and/or chaos. I mean we already have it built in with cop discretion. And jury nullification is already a thing. I don't think I'd convict a guy that killed his daughters rapist either. I don't think I could be on a jury because there's no way I don't see my job as taking the law and applying common sense to it. I don't think I could be impartial in many cases. --- Give me your tired, your poor,Your masses yearning to breathe free,The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.Send these, the homeless, tempest tossed, to me. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LinksLiege 08/20/17 2:27:03 AM #15: |
TheMikh posted...
Can't have double standards with respect to the initiation of force. It's a slippery slope to tyranny and/or chaos. This. Some things need to stay absolute. --- This is LinksLiege's signature. It is fantastic. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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thompsontalker7 08/20/17 2:32:42 AM #16: |
I'd need context, but my default reaction is guilty. Wouldn't want to give the wrong idea to people that violence is justified by being/pretending to be a vigilante.
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JE19426 08/20/17 2:37:15 AM #17: |
There's not enough information in the OP ti honestly answer.
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Sativa_Rose 08/20/17 2:38:29 AM #18: |
Guilty, you aren't allowed to assault people for their political party.
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Cj_WlLL_VVlN 08/20/17 2:47:16 AM #19: |
Sativa_Rose posted...
Guilty, you aren't allowed to assault people for their political party. Political party? Anyways I disagree. If someone joined a "Nazi party" who's beliefs were basically genocide I think they should be wiped out and not just a beating. --- Give me your tired, your poor,Your masses yearning to breathe free,The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.Send these, the homeless, tempest tossed, to me. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DarthAragorn 08/20/17 2:49:47 AM #20: |
Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...
Sativa_Rose posted...Guilty, you aren't allowed to assault people for their political party. That makes you no better than them --- A thousand eyes, and one. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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omega cookie 08/20/17 2:54:22 AM #21: |
Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...
Leaning towards innocent. Some people deserve it. Yeah, there was a lot of that sentiment in the south a few decades ago. Worked out great. --- FFRK: BRKB - Eiko - Guardian Mog FFBE: 885,063,087 - Orlandeau - 931 ATK ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gunplagirl 08/20/17 2:56:49 AM #22: |
DarthAragorn posted...
Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...Sativa_Rose posted...Guilty, you aren't allowed to assault people for their political party. Nazis want minorities wiped out for simply existing and blood dirtying and whatnot. We want Nazis dead because they threaten our lives for simply existing. If you had cancer would you leave it be because you might disagree but it exists to replicate and you can't argue with that? Or would you do everything proactively to stop it from spreading and keep it from returning and killing you? (Spoiler alert, white nationalists already had over 6 million as their kill count, and they got one here in America this month) you can go ahead and wait until they're rounding up people for the slaughter, but then you'll probably yell at people who fight back because they're just doing their job. --- Pokemon Moon FC: 1994-2190-5020 IGN: Vanessa ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kyurem-BW 08/20/17 3:00:53 AM #23: |
Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...
Sativa_Rose posted...Guilty, you aren't allowed to assault people for their political party. i dont support nazis. lost family trying to escape communist germany. but i dont want to see any group wiped out cause that would make me as bad as him funfact do you know who said the almost the same thing about wiping out a group based on their beliefs? --- dont know why I even have one of these ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bloodychess 08/20/17 3:02:36 AM #24: |
gunplagirl posted...
If you had cancer would you leave it be because Oh look, we're dehumanizing people because of their beliefs. There was a pretty prominent party back in the 30's and 40's that did that too, hmmm who were they, it escapes me. --- Sweet dreams are made of cheese Who am I to diss a brie? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Cj_WlLL_VVlN 08/20/17 3:15:33 AM #25: |
DarthAragorn posted...
Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...Sativa_Rose posted...Guilty, you aren't allowed to assault people for their political party. That makes no sense. Killing people for being murderous pieces of shit with no sense of decency is different than killing people for the skin color they were born with. Also this can be the response to the next few comments after yours as well. It's a huge false equivalence. It's OK to kill people for their beliefs. We do it anytime we go to war. The trick is to be on the moral side. Or is the argument that the allies were no better than the Nazis in ww2 because they killed the poor Nazis over their beliefs. --- Give me your tired, your poor,Your masses yearning to breathe free,The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.Send these, the homeless, tempest tossed, to me. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gunplagirl 08/20/17 3:15:59 AM #26: |
Bloodychess posted...
gunplagirl posted...If you had cancer would you leave it be because Do you understand the difference between a figurative and literal cancer? Or how one can make a comparison along the primary details while not literally suggesting they're quite literally can cancer? If you don't understand the difference, then might I so boldly suggest you get off the internet, drink some milk, go to sleep and when you wake up you ask your mommy how long until summer ends and you can start 8th grade. --- Pokemon Moon FC: 1994-2190-5020 IGN: Vanessa ... Copied to Clipboard!
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shnangyboos 08/20/17 3:22:54 AM #27: |
It's pretty shitty to think about the type of people you're going to get on a jury if you're ever on trial.
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teepan95 08/20/17 3:31:45 AM #28: |
Even assholes have certain rights.
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gatorsPENSbucs 08/20/17 3:36:22 AM #29: |
What's the context of this fight. If dude just straight walks up and clocks the guy then yah, guilty. Nazi provokes him, innocent.
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Sativa_Rose 08/20/17 3:38:42 AM #30: |
Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...
for being murderous pieces of shit with no sense of decency Hanging out with a group of crazy people spouting nonsense in 2017 is not at all equivalent to an act of murder. Words are the not the same as actions. --- I may not go down in history, but I will go down on your sister. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Muflaggin 08/20/17 3:39:51 AM #31: |
Guilty. How is this even a question?
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Kyurem-BW 08/20/17 3:44:06 AM #32: |
gatorsPENSbucs posted...
What's the context of this fight. If dude just straight walks up and clocks the guy then yah, guilty. Nazi provokes him, innocent. someone does not know the law it is illegal to lay a hand on someone for any reason. they will get lighter sentence usually if they can prove they were provoked but that does not change guilt hence why in a fight both go to jail --- dont know why I even have one of these ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Blue_Dream87 08/20/17 3:51:48 AM #33: |
Guilty
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JE19426 08/20/17 4:29:52 AM #34: |
Kyurem-BW posted...
someone does not know the law Yeah, and that someone is you. it is illegal to lay a hand on someone for any reason. Unless you live in some shithole, no it isn't. You can lay your hands on someone in self-defence, and in a number of situations to help them out. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sphyx 08/20/17 4:33:19 AM #35: |
Guilty, easily.
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shnangyboos 08/20/17 5:08:34 AM #36: |
JE19426 posted...
Kyurem-BW posted...someone does not know the law Did you see what he was responding to? --- How's my posting? Call http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/182361-human-resource-machine for any comments or concerns. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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_Goggalor_ 08/20/17 5:09:16 AM #37: |
Guilty. Assault is assault.
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3rd_Best_Master 08/20/17 5:39:13 AM #38: |
Innocent, that jury is getting nullified.
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BillyKidd 08/20/17 5:49:12 AM #39: |
Define Nazi. Is it someone wanting to bring about the 4th reich or just a conservative that you can't debate so you want to punch them?
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Cj_WlLL_VVlN 08/20/17 10:14:14 AM #40: |
BillyKidd posted...
Define Nazi. Is it someone wanting to bring about the 4th reich or just a conservative that you can't debate so you want to punch them? These rallies have featured swastika flags and chants about the evils of jews and minorities. Just conservatives? I can't believe how many people here are getting their panties in a bunch over a fight. 99% of the time a fight doesn't even justify calling the cops. --- Give me your tired, your poor,Your masses yearning to breathe free,The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.Send these, the homeless, tempest tossed, to me. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Annihilated 08/20/17 10:57:43 AM #41: |
As usual, evidence and testimony is required. Beating people is generally wrong, but not enough information here.
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Bloodychess 08/20/17 10:58:47 AM #42: |
gunplagirl posted...
Bloodychess posted...gunplagirl posted...If you had cancer would you leave it be because Sure, but everyone knows you better lmao --- Sweet dreams are made of cheese Who am I to diss a brie? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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JE19426 08/20/17 12:27:42 PM #43: |
shnangyboos posted...
Did you see what he was responding to? Yes I did. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KingCrabCake 08/20/17 4:12:53 PM #44: |
Depends on context of everything.
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Zikten 08/20/17 4:25:41 PM #45: |
You can't punch someone just cause you don't like them. Unless the Nazi was a threat, the attacker goes to prison.
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KingCrabCake 08/20/17 4:27:32 PM #46: |
Alot of fascists in here
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Zikten 08/20/17 4:28:27 PM #47: |
KingCrabCake posted...
Alot of fascists in here Or people who care about law and order. We would defend anyone in this scenario, even anti fa if the situation was reversed ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KingCrabCake 08/20/17 4:30:55 PM #48: |
gunplagirl posted...
"Peaceful Nazi" is an oxymoron. It is about as truthful as saying that there's a slight risk to your health if you consume massive amounts of arsenic. Do you think nazis just go around breaking the law and beating people up all day everyday? @gunplagirl --- Bulls 4 life ! Get Rondo out of here. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KingCrabCake 08/20/17 4:31:46 PM #49: |
Zikten posted...
KingCrabCake posted...Alot of fascists in here No I'm with you man. --- Bulls 4 life ! Get Rondo out of here. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Aelia 08/20/17 4:34:49 PM #50: |
There was a Nazi rally in my hometown. Half the town showed up to protest. There was fighting and stuff. Don't remember if anyone got arrested. It was pretty crazy that day.
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