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08/20/17 4:53:15 AM
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"It's almost like the United States has no President - we are a rudderless ship heading for a major disaster. Good luck everyone!" - Donald John Trump
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spikethedevil
08/20/17 5:26:53 AM
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Link?
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Ving_Rhames
08/20/17 5:32:11 AM
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Back_Stabbath
08/20/17 5:33:22 AM
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they don't.
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hockeybub89
08/20/17 5:34:27 AM
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How is it possible for any single person to be this much of a hypocrite? Everything the man does can be directly criticized by his own previous tweets.
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Sephiroth1288
08/20/17 5:40:30 AM
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Is the insinuation here that America's currently heading for a disaster?

Economy's good, stocks keep rising, unemployment is going down, debt is falling, illegal immigration at record low... The only reason you'd think anything was wrong is the media literally crying for weeks on end over mean tweets.

North Korea is making threats, but they do that every couple years no matter what. Where's the big fire?
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Back_Stabbath
08/20/17 5:44:41 AM
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Sephiroth1288 posted...
Is the insinuation here that America's currently heading for a disaster?

Economy's good, stocks keep rising, unemployment is going down, debt is falling, illegal immigration at record low... The only reason you'd think anything was wrong is the media literally crying for weeks on end over mean tweets.

North Korea is making threats, but they do that every couple years no matter what. Where's the big fire?

this tweet is from 2014.
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3rd_Best_Master
08/20/17 5:45:43 AM
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Back_Stabbath posted...
this tweet is from 2014.


Sephiroth1288 posted...
Where was the big fire?


@Mal_Fet
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Sephiroth1288
08/20/17 5:48:49 AM
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Back_Stabbath posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
Is the insinuation here that America's currently heading for a disaster?

Economy's good, stocks keep rising, unemployment is going down, debt is falling, illegal immigration at record low... The only reason you'd think anything was wrong is the media literally crying for weeks on end over mean tweets.

North Korea is making threats, but they do that every couple years no matter what. Where's the big fire?

this tweet is from 2014.

He was right. It was looking like Hillary Clinton would be president.
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Ving_Rhames
08/20/17 5:49:58 AM
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Sephiroth1288 posted...
Economy's good, stocks keep rising, unemployment is going down, debt is falling


whos fiscal year are we in atm
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Sephiroth1288
08/20/17 8:13:04 AM
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Wariodorf posted...
Ving_Rhames posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
Economy's good, stocks keep rising, unemployment is going down, debt is falling


whos fiscal year are we in atm

One where the economy and stock market are not entirely beholden to the Federal budget?
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Doom_Art
08/20/17 8:18:24 AM
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Sephiroth1288 posted...
Economy's good, stocks keep rising, unemployment is going down, debt is falling

We're still in Obama's fiscal year

And Trump has shown an interest in doubling down on the failed conservative economic policies that led to the Great Recession.

So every reason to be wary of him.

Sephiroth1288 posted...
illegal immigration at record low

And has been dropping consistently since 2008, Mal.



So let's go over it,

- Trump wants to double down on the moronic conservative economic policies that helped cause the worst recession in decades

- Because of both his and the GOP's complete and utter incompetence, the government itself is paralyzed with inaction (contrary to your conservative wet dreams, this is actually not a very good thing)

- He's an incredibly divisive president. Has shown no desire to reach out to people who do not support him or are unnerved by his administration/rhetoric, and instead feels the need to simply stroke off his base.

- Alienates our allies around the world

- Unable to condemn a domestic terror attack for days, and when all was done still ended up basically siding with the people that committed the attack


Trump is not a stabilizing element. There's a lot of signs of trouble domestically, to say nothing of the moves certain hostile nations are making (Russia arming the Taliban in Afghanistan again, China making moves, etc) and Trump himself, both by his actions or temperament, doesn't seem to care, or seems to be making the problems worse.
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Doom_Art
08/20/17 8:23:04 AM
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Also it's funny to think

All the turmoil in Trump's admin is all his undoing. It's all his own fault and it's all self-inflicted.

I shudder to think how he'll react to an external problem like a terror attack or some sort of horrible natural disaster.
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Sephiroth1288
08/20/17 8:27:43 AM
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Doom_Art posted...
We're still in Obama's fiscal year

Which is not the end-all-be-all factor in the economy and has zero to do with the stock market and illegal immigration

And has been dropping consistently since 2008, Mal.

Not at the rate we're seeing now.

- Trump wants to double down on the moronic conservative economic policies that helped cause the worst recession in decades

How was promoting subprime loans and giving security to banks for making said loans conservative policies? Weren't those things implemented by your favorite family the Clintons?

Because of both his and the GOP's complete and utter incompetence, the government itself is paralyzed with inaction

Obama only ever had one legislative victory in Obamacare, which was essentially a handout to insurance companies (because it was written by insurance company execs). And yes, less government is a good thing. As is how Trump has rolled back all of Obama's executive acts.

He's an incredibly divisive president.

Welcome to the last 8 years.

- Alienates our allies around the world

Which allies? Russia? North Korea?

Unable to condemn a domestic terror attack for days

He condemned it the day after, you simp.

You seem to care a hell of a lot more about what Trump says instead of what he does. This is the same trouble you had with Obama, except Obama said pretty things and did horrible things. Trump is just the opposite of Obama in that way.
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Doom_Art
08/20/17 8:34:18 AM
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Sephiroth1288 posted...
How was promoting subprime loans and giving security to banks for making said loans conservative policies? Weren't those things implemented by your favorite family the Clintons?

Yes

Bill Clinton ran with the same short-sighted economic policies as Republicans did. Trump seems to be keen on removing regulations post-recession and making the same mistakes Clinton and other Republicans have.

Sephiroth1288 posted...
Obama only ever had one legislative victory in Obamacare

His first congress was actually the most productive since The Great Society.

So there was plenty. When a competent administration and congress are in power a lot can get done.

Sephiroth1288 posted...
Welcome to the last 8 years.

Do you disagree that Trump is divisive or is "but Obama" all you can say?

Sephiroth1288 posted...
Which allies? Russia? North Korea?

Britain, the EU, Australia, Canada, Mexico to name a few

Sephiroth1288 posted...
He condemned it the day after, you simp.

Took him longer

and his meltdown afterwords kind of invalidates any sort of condemnation tbh

Sephiroth1288 posted...
You seem to care a hell of a lot more about what Trump says instead of what he does.

I care a lot about what Trump says and does yes.

Sephiroth1288 posted...
Obama

literally "but obama"
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Touya999
08/20/17 8:36:19 AM
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@Sephiroth1288

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Sephiroth1288
08/20/17 8:44:21 AM
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Doom_Art posted...

Bill Clinton ran with the same short-sighted economic policies as Republicans did. Trump seems to be keen on removing regulations post-recession and making the same mistakes Clinton and other Republicans have.

The housing bubble was created by government regulations, not the removal of them. Paul Krugman actually advocated for actively creating a housing bubble in order to stimulate the economy. Well done, Keynesians.

The combination of the CRA and the government giving banks a safety net for if their loans fail are examples of government intervention in the private market, and that created the recession, not "conservative policy".

His first congress was actually the most productive since The Great Society.

In that they enacted the most useless, overreaching policies since then? Yeah, and that was a problem.

Took him longer

One day is too long for you? Really?

I care a lot about what Trump says and does yes.

No, you only really complain about what he says and have shockingly few objections about what he actually does.
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Doom_Art
08/20/17 8:52:43 AM
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Sephiroth1288 posted...
The housing bubble was created by government regulations, not the removal of them. Paul Krugman actually advocated for actively creating a housing bubble in order to stimulate the economy. Well done, Keynesians.

The combination of the CRA and the government giving banks a safety net for if their loans fail are examples of government intervention in the private market, and that created the recession, not "conservative policy".

http://fcic-static.law.stanford.edu/cdn_media/fcic-reports/fcic_final_report_conclusions.pdf

"the crisis was avoidable and was caused by: Widespread failures in financial regulation, including the Federal Reserve’s failure to stem the tide of toxic mortgages; Dramatic breakdowns in corporate governance including too many financial firms acting recklessly and taking on too much risk; An explosive mix of excessive borrowing and risk by households and Wall Street that put the financial system on a collision course with crisis; Key policy makers ill prepared for the crisis, lacking a full understanding of the financial system they oversaw; and systemic breaches in accountability and ethics at all levels."

Sephiroth1288 posted...
In that they enacted the most useless, overreaching policies since then? Yeah, and that was a problem.

So are we have a fee-fees argument right now? I feel that some great law was passed

But that's not the argument we're having, the argument was that Trump and the GOP's incompetence has completely sniped anything resembling productivity in government.

Sephiroth1288 posted...
One day is too long for you? Really?

I prefer the President to be able to condemn Nazis and terrorists, thanks.

Sephiroth1288 posted...
No, you only really complain about what he says and have shockingly few objections about what he actually does.

I do object to things he's done. He's just been so incompetent there's little in the way of policy and legislation enacted to criticize him for yet.
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creativerealms
08/20/17 9:01:07 AM
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Maybe it's because we need someone who knows what he's doing?
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Sephiroth1288
08/20/17 9:02:30 AM
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Doom_Art posted...
"the crisis was avoidable and was caused by: Widespread failures in financial regulation, including the Federal Reserve’s failure to stem the tide of toxic mortgages

Gee, I wonder which president it was that encouraged banks to take on subprime loans...

Dramatic breakdowns in corporate governance including too many financial firms acting recklessly and taking on too much risk;

Risk which was, once again, insured by the Federal government to protect banks if loans went through, which gave banks incentive to give out bad loans.

http://www.nber.org/papers/w18609

We use exogenous variation in banks' incentives to conform to the standards of the Community Reinvestment Act (CRA) around regulatory exam dates to trace out the effect of the CRA on lending activity. Our empirical strategy compares lending behavior of banks undergoing CRA exams within a given census tract in a given month to the behavior of banks operating in the same census tract-month that do not face these exams. We find that adherence to the act led to riskier lending by banks: in the six quarters surrounding the CRA exams lending is elevated on average by about 5 percent every quarter and loans in these quarters default by about 15 percent more often. These patterns are accentuated in CRA-eligible census tracts and are concentrated among large banks. The effects are strongest during the time period when the market for private securitization was booming.

So are we have a fee-fees argument right now? I feel that some great law was passed

Such as? Care to name some?

I prefer the President to be able to condemn Nazis and terrorists, thanks.

Which he did. Right after he was elected:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pr516fDHcqs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pr516fDHcqs

And after the Charlottesville riots:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pr516fDHcqs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pr516fDHcqs

Why are you lying?

I do object to things he's done. He's just been so incompetent there's little in the way of policy and legislation enacted to criticize him for yet.

So...on the one hand you say he hasn't done anything, and on the other had you say he's the worst president ever.

Are you so far gone that you don't see a contradiction here?
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TroutPaste
08/20/17 9:03:00 AM
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Sephiroth1288 posted...
you simp.


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08/20/17 9:10:34 AM
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Sephiroth1288 posted...
Is the insinuation here that America's currently heading for a disaster?

Economy's good, stocks keep rising, unemployment is going down, debt is falling, illegal immigration at record low...

Most of this has been a steady trend since 2009 & 2010. What happened in 2014 to those things you listed to make him warrant making such a false statement, other than his contempt for Obama and continuance in trying to undermine his Presidency?
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Kitt
08/20/17 9:13:29 AM
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He could see the future.

lmao
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Mike_Stanton
08/20/17 10:14:38 AM
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Sephiroth1288 posted...
Risk which was, once again, insured by the Federal government to protect banks if loans went through, which gave banks incentive to give out bad loans.

Bush's tax cuts leading to a culture of deregulation also didn't help. So much for trickle down economics lmfao
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Turbam
08/20/17 10:18:58 AM
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Good luck to you too, King Master Trump
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Kim Kusanagi
08/20/17 1:37:46 PM
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Ocelot's MGS V description is so accurate for Mal.
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CelestialVoices
08/20/17 1:46:40 PM
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Good luck everyone!
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Giblet_Enjoyer
08/20/17 8:08:00 PM
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Sephiroth1288 posted...
Is the insinuation here that America's currently heading for a disaster?

Economy's good, stocks keep rising, unemployment is going down, debt is falling,

Lol, Warren Buffet and George Soros are betting against the US economy right now
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awesome999
08/20/17 8:10:47 PM
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No President > Trump
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CADE FOSTER
08/20/17 8:13:26 PM
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Wariodorf posted...
Ving_Rhames posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
Economy's good, stocks keep rising, unemployment is going down, debt is falling


whos fiscal year are we in atm

Obamas work that Trump is taking false credit for imagine if the cheeto had inherited Bushs america after the recession we would be shit out of luck
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creativerealms
08/20/17 8:21:04 PM
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It is funny that now Trump is accepting the real unemployment rate. Throughout the election he claimed that dropping rate was a lie and the real unemployment rate was much higher.
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marc55
08/21/17 11:49:52 AM
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creativerealms posted...
It is funny that now Trump is accepting the real unemployment rate. Throughout the election he claimed that dropping rate was a lie and the real unemployment rate was much higher.


i thought he did that to compare the number he made up back then to the real one now so he can claim there is less unemployment because of him
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CableZL
08/21/17 11:51:19 AM
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marc55 posted...
creativerealms posted...
It is funny that now Trump is accepting the real unemployment rate. Throughout the election he claimed that dropping rate was a lie and the real unemployment rate was much higher.


i thought he did that to compare the number he made up back then to the real one now so he can claim there is less unemployment because of him


His press secretary literally said "The numbers may have been phony back then, but they're real now."
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Were_Wyrm
08/21/17 11:53:20 AM
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Donald John Trump
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Questionmarktarius
08/21/17 11:56:00 AM
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The president isn't actually supposed to do much anyway:
https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/articleii
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