Poll of the Day > I don't get why they don't give me an interview for entry level/trainee jobs...

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I graduated in 2014 and have not been able to find a job yet but they should still give me a chance.

You need experience first
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I don't like your name
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GreenTreeClub posted...

I graduated in 2014 and have not been able to find a job yet

Same. I got lots of interviews though.
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graduated with what?

B.S in IT

Keep in mind that your value decreases every year you don't have work. So if you weren't going hard year one, even if you triple your efforts in year two it's going to be harder to get a job. After all, each year plenty more people graduate and a more recent graduate without experience is going to look more appealing than a less recent one.

And, in general, you should have tried branching out if you weren't finding something directly pertaining to your major.
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Try staffing agencies, volunteer work, or personal projects that are IT related so you have experience
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If you haven't gotten a job with your degree in three years, the problem isn't them
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JOExHIGASHI posted...

You need experience first

An employer cannot advertise a position as entree level and then demand experience.
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Lokarin posted...

JOExHIGASHI posted...

You need experience first

An employer cannot advertise a position as entree level and then demand experience.

They do.
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I have no experience trying to get a programming job, but programming is a field where an experienced employee is *astronomically* more valuable than an inexperienced one, and in fact an inexperienced employee can be almost purely detrimental. so all you tend to see are Senior level jobs with few to zero junior or intermediate positions.

the main thing to do is try to become the best programmer you can be in your spare time. you don't need a job to become great at programming, you just need to program.

HellHole_ posted...

probably means 8+ years programming experience with experience in Swift
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Smarkil posted...

If you haven't gotten a job with your degree in three years, the problem isn't them

You are right. I have been having issues with depression, anxiety, etc that has kept me scared to do much of anything. Luckily I have been going to church and I have gotten way better. I just wish I started going to church years ago but I was too stubborn.

I started applying again recently since I have recovered a lot so I've been doing that. But the last interview I had was 1 year and 6 months ago. Does anyone know about job programs for tech workers that target people with mental illness for job training? I've never taken medicine or gone to the doctor for it so I have no proof, but maybe they will take me

Sahuagin posted...

I have no experience trying to get a programming job, but programming is a field where an experienced employee is *astronomically* more valuable than an inexperienced one, and in fact an inexperienced employee can be almost purely detrimental. so all you tend to see are Senior level jobs with few to zero junior or intermediate positions.

the main thing to do is try to become the best programmer you can be in your spare time. you don't need a job to become great at programming, you just need to program.

HellHole_ posted...

probably means 8+ years programming experience with experience in Swift

The thing is, I'm not even looking for programming...

I'm looking for Help Desk as an entry level position, not even a high tier, just the basic stuff.

GreenTreeClub posted...

The thing is, I'm not even looking for programming...

I'm looking for Help Desk as an entry level position, not even a high tier, just the basic stuff.

What do you have on your resume?
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Check out a hospital, every one in my area needs more IT monkeys.
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My resume just has the few freelance things I have done such as helping people with Windows OS related problems like firewall exceptions, updating pop3 servers on outlook, as well as tutoring I have done for people who need help writing essays and papers

HellHole_ posted...

this is just sad

Sahuagin posted...

probably means 8+ years programming experience with experience in Swift

lol no i doubt it. just lazy recruiters/hr being unrealistic as usual

It even reached accounting... for a BASIC staff job, jobs are saying CPA preferred or at least be eligible to take the exams. Let me remind you that anybody who can count numbers is more than suitable for an entry level accounting job

As technology becomes more important these standards are probably going to get more ridiculous because the old people up top have no idea how to manage any of it and expect hires to have full understanding/control over everything
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mastermix3000 posted...

anybody who can count numbers is more than suitable for an entry level accounting job

anyone who can count numbers...? I guess I know what you mean, but it would sure help if they at least knew about things like debit/credit, the general ledger, financial statements, the balance sheet, deferred revenue, budgets, etc.etc.
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You think I can get an accounting job with a B.S in IT?

GreenTreeClub posted...

You think I can get an accounting job with a B.S in IT?

I've seen entry level accounting jobs that only require a hs diploma. You're basically entering data into excel or quick books in those type of positions. Maybe some customer service skills are required too
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Sahuagin posted...

mastermix3000 posted...

anybody who can count numbers is more than suitable for an entry level accounting job

anyone who can count numbers...? I guess I know what you mean, but it would sure help if they at least knew about things like debit/credit, the general ledger, financial statements, the balance sheet, deferred revenue, budgets, etc.etc.

Yeah, I mean that certainly helps, but it's really absurd of their expectations given how specialized parts of accounting are. I really wish I had stuck with tax accounting.

@mastermix3000 out of curiosity how many actual dedicated accounting hours were required for your degree. I'm just wondering compared to mine, because I didn't think it was that many hours to be honest.

Sahuagin posted...

mastermix3000 posted...

anybody who can count numbers is more than suitable for an entry level accounting job

anyone who can count numbers...? I guess I know what you mean, but it would sure help if they at least knew about things like debit/credit, the general ledger, financial statements, the balance sheet, deferred revenue, budgets, etc.etc.

That is much, much easier to learn on the job than something like swift or any other technical industry. Shouldn't take more than a month for a complete moron to know which gl accounts hit the I/S and B/S. You repeat the same entries everyday/month/year end. Budgets can be broken done, and im pretty sure you can explain deferred revenue and people would have an idea of what you mean

To get an accounting degree at UMass you needed 21 Accounting credits when i was attending now it's bumped to 30
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