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Capn Circus 08/22/17 1:49:31 PM #105:	--- "I think that man will be president right about the time when spaceships come down filled with dinosaurs in red capes" - Tom Hanks <cite>Capn Circus posted [p:885244145] in Guys, whit... [t:75696608]...</cite> <quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChromaticAngel 08/22/17 1:50:37 PM #106:	Capn Circus posted... What does this prove? --- https://puu.sh/tcLsT/24f4611235.png <cite>ChromaticAngel posted [p:885244212] in Guys, whit... [t:75696608]...</cite> <quote><cite>Capn Circus posted...</cite> <quote></quote> What does this prove?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordRazziel 08/22/17 1:50:57 PM #107:	Kineth posted... darkjedilink posted... ImAMarvel posted... darkjedilink posted... LordRazziel posted... Yeah, it was white people that enslaved black people in the U.S. The title almost implies that we did it because we're white. That would be like me blaming black people, if I got held up by one. Actually, it was other black people that enslaved black people, then sold them to white people for coffee and sugar. Why do people act like this excuses centuries of black enslavement by white people? Because white people literally didn't enslave them. Shut the fuck up with this lying ass bullshit. The black people did it for the same reason white people did - profit. However, on a macro scale, European/white civilization and culture certainly seem to be the far more detrimental. ...but I can't claim to be a historian. Maybe, I have fallen victim to the liberal narrative in education people are always talking about. ~~or not, like, amost certainly not~~ --- http://i.imgur.com/8pzUM.gif http://i.imgur.com/Oh1iujg.gif The only bad part about flying is having to come back down to the f***in' world ~Rat <cite>LordRazziel posted [p:885244226] in Guys, whit... [t:75696608]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kineth posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ImAMarvel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LordRazziel posted...</cite> <quote>Yeah, it was white people that enslaved black people in the U.S. The title almost implies that we did it because we're white. That would be like me blaming black people, if I got held up by one.</quote> Actually, it was other black people that enslaved black people, then sold them to white people for coffee and sugar.</quote> Why do people act like this excuses centuries of black enslavement by white people?</quote> Because white people literally didn't enslave them.</quote> Shut the fuck up with this lying ass bullshit.</quote> The black people did it for the same reason white people did - profit. However, on a macro scale, European/white civilization and culture certainly seem to be the far more detrimental. ...but I can't claim to be a historian. Maybe, I have fallen victim to the liberal narrative in education people are always talking about. or not, like, amost certainly not</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
asdf8562 08/22/17 1:54:18 PM #108:	I love the pathetic defense that on slavery in america.darkjedilink posted... Kineth posted... darkjedilink posted... ImAMarvel posted... darkjedilink posted... LordRazziel posted... Yeah, it was white people that enslaved black people in the U.S. The title almost implies that we did it because we're white. That would be like me blaming black people, if I got held up by one. Actually, it was other black people that enslaved black people, then sold them to white people for coffee and sugar. Why do people act like this excuses centuries of black enslavement by white people? Because white people literally didn't enslave them. Shut the fuck up with this lying ass bullshit. Kineth, would you kindly be ill-informed and racist elsewhere? Black people were enslaved by other black people. I love the pathetic defense that on slavery in america. <cite>asdf8562 posted [p:885244429] in Guys, whit... [t:75696608]...</cite> <quote>I love the pathetic defense that on slavery in america.<cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kineth posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ImAMarvel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LordRazziel posted...</cite> <quote>Yeah, it was white people that enslaved black people in the U.S. The title almost implies that we did it because we're white. That would be like me blaming black people, if I got held up by one.</quote> Actually, it was other black people that enslaved black people, then sold them to white people for coffee and sugar.</quote> Why do people act like this excuses centuries of black enslavement by white people?</quote> Because white people literally didn't enslave them.</quote> Shut the fuck up with this lying ass bullshit.</quote> Kineth, would you kindly be ill-informed and racist elsewhere? Black people were enslaved by other black people.</quote> I love the pathetic defense that on slavery in america.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
asdf8562 08/22/17 2:00:13 PM #109:	VectorChaos posted... I love how absolutely incensed the usual suspects get when you start alluding to who originally enslaved black africans and then sold those slaves to white americans/europeans. It's like their minds cannot physically accept certain facts. Its more like its irrelevant defense to bring up in American history.... Redardless if black slaves were sold by black owners, that doesnt magically wipe clean the major part of US history where white people owned slaves and following era of civil rights that still viewed black people as subhuman. Like its a rediculous defense to use. "Such an such started the atrocity, so its that we kept it going!" <cite>asdf8562 posted [p:885244791] in Guys, whit... [t:75696608]...</cite> <quote><cite>VectorChaos posted...</cite> <quote>I love how absolutely incensed the usual suspects get when you start alluding to who originally enslaved black africans and then sold those slaves to white americans/europeans. It's like their minds cannot physically accept certain facts.</quote> Its more like its irrelevant defense to bring up in American history.... Redardless if black slaves were sold by black owners, that doesnt magically wipe clean the major part of US history where white people owned slaves and following era of civil rights that still viewed black people as subhuman. Like its a rediculous defense to use. "Such an such started the atrocity, so its that we kept it going!"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kineth 08/22/17 2:01:46 PM #110:	asdf8562 posted... VectorChaos posted... I love how absolutely incensed the usual suspects get when you start alluding to who originally enslaved black africans and then sold those slaves to white americans/europeans. It's like their minds cannot physically accept certain facts. Its more like its irrelevant defense to bring up in American history.... Redardless if black slaves were sold by black owners, that doesnt magically wipe clean the major part of US history where white people owned slaves and following era of civil rights that still viewed black people as subhuman. Like its a rediculous defense to use. It's literal victim blaming and whitewashing of history. --- If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply. <cite>Kineth posted [p:885244882] in Guys, whit... [t:75696608]...</cite> <quote><cite>asdf8562 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>VectorChaos posted...</cite> <quote>I love how absolutely incensed the usual suspects get when you start alluding to who originally enslaved black africans and then sold those slaves to white americans/europeans. It's like their minds cannot physically accept certain facts.</quote> Its more like its irrelevant defense to bring up in American history.... Redardless if black slaves were sold by black owners, that doesnt magically wipe clean the major part of US history where white people owned slaves and following era of civil rights that still viewed black people as subhuman. Like its a rediculous defense to use.</quote> It's literal victim blaming and whitewashing of history.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Capn Circus 08/22/17 2:02:52 PM #111:	ChromaticAngel posted... Capn Circus posted... What does this prove? Just providing some perspective. Things aren't always about race. All sorts of people like the statues just like all sorts of people put Trump in office --- "I think that man will be president right about the time when spaceships come down filled with dinosaurs in red capes" - Tom Hanks <cite>Capn Circus posted [p:885244951] in Guys, whit... [t:75696608]...</cite> <quote><cite>ChromaticAngel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Capn Circus posted...</cite> <quote></quote> What does this prove?</quote> Just providing some perspective. Things aren't always about race. All sorts of people like the statues just like all sorts of people put Trump in office</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kineth 08/22/17 2:03:53 PM #112:	Capn Circus posted... ChromaticAngel posted... Capn Circus posted... What does this prove? Just providing some perspective. Things aren't always about race. All sorts of people like the statues just like all sorts of people put Trump in office Odd that you only want to consider the perspective of a minority of black people. Honestly odd that you want to consider the perspective of any black people. --- If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply. <cite>Kineth posted [p:885245020] in Guys, whit... [t:75696608]...</cite> <quote><cite>Capn Circus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ChromaticAngel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Capn Circus posted...</cite> <quote></quote> What does this prove?</quote> Just providing some perspective. Things aren't always about race. All sorts of people like the statues just like all sorts of people put Trump in office</quote> Odd that you only want to consider the perspective of a minority of black people. Honestly odd that you want to consider the perspective of any black people.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordRazziel 08/22/17 2:06:45 PM #113:	Kineth posted... asdf8562 posted... VectorChaos posted... I love how absolutely incensed the usual suspects get when you start alluding to who originally enslaved black africans and then sold those slaves to white americans/europeans. It's like their minds cannot physically accept certain facts. Its more like its irrelevant defense to bring up in American history.... Redardless if black slaves were sold by black owners, that doesnt magically wipe clean the major part of US history where white people owned slaves and following era of civil rights that still viewed black people as subhuman. Like its a rediculous defense to use. It's literal victim blaming and whitewashing of history. White people being pegged as being responsible for slavery is victim blaiming? That's...umm... I... I got nothin --- http://i.imgur.com/8pzUM.gif http://i.imgur.com/Oh1iujg.gif The only bad part about flying is having to come back down to the f***in' world ~Rat <cite>LordRazziel posted [p:885245177] in Guys, whit... [t:75696608]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kineth posted...</cite> <quote><cite>asdf8562 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>VectorChaos posted...</cite> <quote>I love how absolutely incensed the usual suspects get when you start alluding to who originally enslaved black africans and then sold those slaves to white americans/europeans. It's like their minds cannot physically accept certain facts.</quote> Its more like its irrelevant defense to bring up in American history.... Redardless if black slaves were sold by black owners, that doesnt magically wipe clean the major part of US history where white people owned slaves and following era of civil rights that still viewed black people as subhuman. Like its a rediculous defense to use.</quote> It's literal victim blaming and whitewashing of history.</quote> White people being pegged as being responsible for slavery is victim blaiming? That's...umm... I... I got nothin</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
anth0ny 08/22/17 2:07:10 PM #114:	Family have a history of voting Republitrash? Then shut. the. fuck. up. Rebublicans Cause disenfranchisement and apartheid using that straight vote button At LEAST neo-nazi's can realize that fact ( and why they can so indentify with conservatism) Unlike these baby-boomers (and SAD!ly you little CE goons) whose political education is made up entirely of Fox-News --- moo <cite>anth0ny posted [p:885245202] in Guys, whit... [t:75696608]...</cite> <quote>Family have a history of voting Republitrash? Then shut. the. fuck. up. Rebublicans Cause disenfranchisement and apartheid using that straight vote button At LEAST neo-nazi's can realize that fact ( and why they can so indentify with conservatism) Unlike these baby-boomers (and SAD!ly you little CE goons) whose political education is made up entirely of Fox-News</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kineth 08/22/17 2:09:37 PM #116:	LordRazziel posted... Kineth posted... asdf8562 posted... VectorChaos posted... I love how absolutely incensed the usual suspects get when you start alluding to who originally enslaved black africans and then sold those slaves to white americans/europeans. It's like their minds cannot physically accept certain facts. Its more like its irrelevant defense to bring up in American history.... Redardless if black slaves were sold by black owners, that doesnt magically wipe clean the major part of US history where white people owned slaves and following era of civil rights that still viewed black people as subhuman. Like its a rediculous defense to use. It's literal victim blaming and whitewashing of history. White people being pegged as being responsible for slavery is victim blaiming? That's...umm... I... I got nothin ... Blaming black people for slavery is victim blaming is what I was fucking saying. --- If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply. <cite>Kineth posted [p:885245328] in Guys, whit... [t:75696608]...</cite> <quote><cite>LordRazziel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kineth posted...</cite> <quote><cite>asdf8562 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>VectorChaos posted...</cite> <quote>I love how absolutely incensed the usual suspects get when you start alluding to who originally enslaved black africans and then sold those slaves to white americans/europeans. It's like their minds cannot physically accept certain facts.</quote> Its more like its irrelevant defense to bring up in American history.... Redardless if black slaves were sold by black owners, that doesnt magically wipe clean the major part of US history where white people owned slaves and following era of civil rights that still viewed black people as subhuman. Like its a rediculous defense to use.</quote> It's literal victim blaming and whitewashing of history.</quote> White people being pegged as being responsible for slavery is victim blaiming? That's...umm... I... I got nothin</quote> ... Blaming black people for slavery is victim blaming is what I was fucking saying.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Queen_of_Lazy89 08/22/17 2:10:47 PM #117:	Confederate statutes shouldn't be taken down because of slavery, they should be taken down though because we should not be honoring fucking traitors who tried destroying the country over a fucking terrible ideology. --- "Going to the Grand Canyon" is how Limbaugh's doctor refers to giving Limbaugh a colonoscopy-Kavatar <cite>Queen_of_Lazy89 posted [p:885245398] in Guys, whit... [t:75696608]...</cite> <quote>Confederate statutes shouldn't be taken down because of slavery, they should be taken down though because we should not be honoring fucking traitors who tried destroying the country over a fucking terrible ideology.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordRazziel 08/22/17 2:11:13 PM #118:	Capn Circus posted... ChromaticAngel posted... Capn Circus posted... What does this prove? Just providing some perspective. Things aren't always about race. All sorts of people like the statues just like all sorts of people put Trump in office A factual point. Swastikas don't always represent Nazism. IIRC, it's a pagan symbol for good luck. Would you be put off by swastikas on government buldings? --- http://i.imgur.com/8pzUM.gif http://i.imgur.com/Oh1iujg.gif The only bad part about flying is having to come back down to the f***in' world ~Rat <cite>LordRazziel posted [p:885245417] in Guys, whit... [t:75696608]...</cite> <quote><cite>Capn Circus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ChromaticAngel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Capn Circus posted...</cite> <quote></quote> What does this prove?</quote> Just providing some perspective. Things aren't always about race. All sorts of people like the statues just like all sorts of people put Trump in office</quote> A factual point. Swastikas don't always represent Nazism. IIRC, it's a pagan symbol for good luck. Would you be put off by swastikas on government buldings?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordRazziel 08/22/17 2:11:56 PM #119:	Kineth posted... LordRazziel posted... Kineth posted... asdf8562 posted... VectorChaos posted... I love how absolutely incensed the usual suspects get when you start alluding to who originally enslaved black africans and then sold those slaves to white americans/europeans. It's like their minds cannot physically accept certain facts. Its more like its irrelevant defense to bring up in American history.... Redardless if black slaves were sold by black owners, that doesnt magically wipe clean the major part of US history where white people owned slaves and following era of civil rights that still viewed black people as subhuman. Like its a rediculous defense to use. It's literal victim blaming and whitewashing of history. White people being pegged as being responsible for slavery is victim blaiming? That's...umm... I... I got nothin ... Blaming black people for slavery is victim blaming is what I was fucking saying. Oh, my bad. --- http://i.imgur.com/8pzUM.gif http://i.imgur.com/Oh1iujg.gif The only bad part about flying is having to come back down to the f***in' world ~Rat <cite>LordRazziel posted [p:885245467] in Guys, whit... [t:75696608]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kineth posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LordRazziel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kineth posted...</cite> <quote><cite>asdf8562 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>VectorChaos posted...</cite> <quote>I love how absolutely incensed the usual suspects get when you start alluding to who originally enslaved black africans and then sold those slaves to white americans/europeans. It's like their minds cannot physically accept certain facts.</quote> Its more like its irrelevant defense to bring up in American history.... Redardless if black slaves were sold by black owners, that doesnt magically wipe clean the major part of US history where white people owned slaves and following era of civil rights that still viewed black people as subhuman. Like its a rediculous defense to use.</quote> It's literal victim blaming and whitewashing of history.</quote> White people being pegged as being responsible for slavery is victim blaiming? That's...umm... I... I got nothin</quote> ... Blaming black people for slavery is victim blaming is what I was fucking saying.</quote> Oh, my bad.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChromaticAngel 08/22/17 2:12:03 PM #120:	Capn Circus posted... Just providing some perspective. You right now: --- https://puu.sh/tcLsT/24f4611235.png <cite>ChromaticAngel posted [p:885245473] in Guys, whit... [t:75696608]...</cite> <quote><cite>Capn Circus posted...</cite> <quote>Just providing some perspective.</quote> You right now: </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Queen_of_Lazy89 08/22/17 2:19:15 PM #121:	LordRazziel posted... Capn Circus posted... ChromaticAngel posted... Capn Circus posted... What does this prove? Just providing some perspective. Things aren't always about race. All sorts of people like the statues just like all sorts of people put Trump in office A factual point. Swastikas don't always represent Nazism. IIRC, it's a pagan symbol for good luck. Would you be put off by swastikas on government buldings? Swastikas do represent Nazism. The original symbol isn't inverted, if you see idiots waving an inverted swastika around then yes they're waving the Nazi flag. --- "Going to the Grand Canyon" is how Limbaugh's doctor refers to giving Limbaugh a colonoscopy-Kavatar <cite>Queen_of_Lazy89 posted [p:885245889] in Guys, whit... [t:75696608]...</cite> <quote><cite>LordRazziel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Capn Circus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ChromaticAngel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Capn Circus posted...</cite> <quote></quote> What does this prove?</quote> Just providing some perspective. Things aren't always about race. All sorts of people like the statues just like all sorts of people put Trump in office</quote> A factual point. Swastikas don't always represent Nazism. IIRC, it's a pagan symbol for good luck. Would you be put off by swastikas on government buldings?</quote> Swastikas do represent Nazism. The original symbol isn't inverted, if you see idiots waving an inverted swastika around then yes they're waving the Nazi flag.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 08/22/17 2:23:12 PM #122:	ChromaticAngel posted... darkjedilink posted... None of my ancestors came to this country until after 1910, so what do I owe black people, who may not even be descended from slaves? You owe them actually listening to their complaints when they tell you shit like slavery monuments do not need to be on state property. Saying "I had nothing to do with it, and that statue needs to stay up" is starting out with a fact and then turning it into a lie. Defending confederate monuments on state property is attaching to yourself deeds in defense of slavery that didn't previously exist. When did I ever say the statues need to stay? When did I ever defend a Confederate monument? Oh, wait - I didn't. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:885246118] in Guys, whit... [t:75696608]...</cite> <quote><cite>ChromaticAngel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>None of my ancestors came to this country until after 1910, so what do I owe black people, who may not even be descended from slaves? </quote> You owe them actually listening to their complaints when they tell you shit like slavery monuments do not need to be on state property. Saying "I had nothing to do with it, and that statue needs to stay up" is starting out with a fact and then turning it into a lie. Defending confederate monuments on state property is attaching to yourself deeds in defense of slavery that didn't previously exist.</quote> When did I ever say the statues need to stay? When did I ever defend a Confederate monument? Oh, wait - I didn't.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 08/22/17 2:24:38 PM #123:	Kineth posted... LordRazziel posted... Kineth posted... asdf8562 posted... VectorChaos posted... I love how absolutely incensed the usual suspects get when you start alluding to who originally enslaved black africans and then sold those slaves to white americans/europeans. It's like their minds cannot physically accept certain facts. Its more like its irrelevant defense to bring up in American history.... Redardless if black slaves were sold by black owners, that doesnt magically wipe clean the major part of US history where white people owned slaves and following era of civil rights that still viewed black people as subhuman. Like its a rediculous defense to use. It's literal victim blaming and whitewashing of history. White people being pegged as being responsible for slavery is victim blaiming? That's...umm... I... I got nothin ... Blaming black people for slavery is victim blaming is what I was fucking saying. The black people that took the slaves aren't victims, now, are they? --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:885246204] in Guys, whit... [t:75696608]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kineth posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LordRazziel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kineth posted...</cite> <quote><cite>asdf8562 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>VectorChaos posted...</cite> <quote>I love how absolutely incensed the usual suspects get when you start alluding to who originally enslaved black africans and then sold those slaves to white americans/europeans. It's like their minds cannot physically accept certain facts.</quote> Its more like its irrelevant defense to bring up in American history.... Redardless if black slaves were sold by black owners, that doesnt magically wipe clean the major part of US history where white people owned slaves and following era of civil rights that still viewed black people as subhuman. Like its a rediculous defense to use.</quote> It's literal victim blaming and whitewashing of history.</quote> White people being pegged as being responsible for slavery is victim blaiming? That's...umm... I... I got nothin</quote> ... Blaming black people for slavery is victim blaming is what I was fucking saying.</quote> The black people that took the slaves aren't victims, now, are they?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
That_Happened 08/22/17 2:25:16 PM #124:	darkjedilink posted... None of my ancestors came to this country until after 1910, so what do I owe black people, who may not even be descended from slaves? So, like my ancestors, your ancestors were part of the system that spent the next 50-60 years treating minorities as subhuman. This doesn't mean we actually "owe" anyone anything. But let's stop pretending like our ancestors (and ultimately you and I) didn't benefit from the system. --- http://fusionanomaly.net/magnoliabutitdidhappen.jpg <cite>That_Happened posted [p:885246235] in Guys, whit... [t:75696608]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>None of my ancestors came to this country until after 1910, so what do I owe black people, who may not even be descended from slaves?</quote> So, like my ancestors, your ancestors were part of the system that spent the next 50-60 years treating minorities as subhuman. This doesn't mean we actually "owe" anyone anything. But let's stop pretending like our ancestors (and ultimately you and I) didn't benefit from the system.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 08/22/17 2:29:21 PM #125:	That_Happened posted... darkjedilink posted... None of my ancestors came to this country until after 1910, so what do I owe black people, who may not even be descended from slaves? So, like my ancestors, your ancestors were part of the system that spent the next 50-60 years treating minorities as subhuman. This doesn't mean we actually "owe" anyone anything. But let's stop pretending like our ancestors (and ultimately you and I) didn't benefit from the system. Yeah, because Irish immigrants to America were treated SOOOO well... --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:885246468] in Guys, whit... [t:75696608]...</cite> <quote><cite>That_Happened posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>None of my ancestors came to this country until after 1910, so what do I owe black people, who may not even be descended from slaves?</quote> So, like my ancestors, your ancestors were part of the system that spent the next 50-60 years treating minorities as subhuman. This doesn't mean we actually "owe" anyone anything. But let's stop pretending like our ancestors (and ultimately you and I) didn't benefit from the system.</quote> Yeah, because Irish immigrants to America were treated SOOOO well...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChromaticAngel 08/22/17 2:31:04 PM #126:	darkjedilink posted... When did I ever say the statues need to stay? When did I ever defend a Confederate monument? Oh, wait - I didn't. No, but you've done other shit in this thread that is a reasonable substitute. --- https://puu.sh/tcLsT/24f4611235.png <cite>ChromaticAngel posted [p:885246573] in Guys, whit... [t:75696608]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote> When did I ever say the statues need to stay? When did I ever defend a Confederate monument? Oh, wait - I didn't.</quote> No, but you've done other shit in this thread that is a reasonable substitute.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
That_Happened 08/22/17 2:32:54 PM #127:	darkjedilink posted... That_Happened posted... darkjedilink posted... None of my ancestors came to this country until after 1910, so what do I owe black people, who may not even be descended from slaves? So, like my ancestors, your ancestors were part of the system that spent the next 50-60 years treating minorities as subhuman. This doesn't mean we actually "owe" anyone anything. But let's stop pretending like our ancestors (and ultimately you and I) didn't benefit from the system. Yeah, because Irish immigrants to America were treated SOOOO well... My family is Irish too. They had it tough. They still wouldn't choose "black" over "Irish," and they still recognize they benefitted from the system more than minorities did. --- http://fusionanomaly.net/magnoliabutitdidhappen.jpg <cite>That_Happened posted [p:885246667] in Guys, whit... [t:75696608]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>That_Happened posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>None of my ancestors came to this country until after 1910, so what do I owe black people, who may not even be descended from slaves?</quote> So, like my ancestors, your ancestors were part of the system that spent the next 50-60 years treating minorities as subhuman. This doesn't mean we actually "owe" anyone anything. But let's stop pretending like our ancestors (and ultimately you and I) didn't benefit from the system.</quote> Yeah, because Irish immigrants to America were treated SOOOO well...</quote> My family is Irish too. They had it tough. They still wouldn't choose "black" over "Irish," and they still recognize they benefitted from the system more than minorities did.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RickyTheBAWSE 08/22/17 2:33:08 PM #128:	darkjedilink posted... That_Happened posted... darkjedilink posted... None of my ancestors came to this country until after 1910, so what do I owe black people, who may not even be descended from slaves? So, like my ancestors, your ancestors were part of the system that spent the next 50-60 years treating minorities as subhuman. This doesn't mean we actually "owe" anyone anything. But let's stop pretending like our ancestors (and ultimately you and I) didn't benefit from the system. Yeah, because Irish immigrants to America were treated SOOOO well... how bad would you like to be a victim? --- Never let those intent on misunderstanding you be the narrator to your story! BAWSE! <cite>RickyTheBAWSE posted [p:885246685] in Guys, whit... [t:75696608]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>That_Happened posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote> None of my ancestors came to this country until after 1910, so what do I owe black people, who may not even be descended from slaves? </quote> So, like my ancestors, your ancestors were part of the system that spent the next 50-60 years treating minorities as subhuman. This doesn't mean we actually "owe" anyone anything. But let's stop pretending like our ancestors (and ultimately you and I) didn't benefit from the system.</quote> Yeah, because Irish immigrants to America were treated SOOOO well...</quote> how bad would you like to be a victim?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Damn_Underscore 08/22/17 2:35:30 PM #129:	It comes down to this: Everyone would choose rich over poor 100% of the time --- Shenmue II = best game of all time Shenmue = 2nd best game of all time <cite>Damn_Underscore posted [p:885246833] in Guys, whit... [t:75696608]...</cite> <quote>It comes down to this: Everyone would choose rich over poor 100% of the time</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kineth 08/22/17 2:36:04 PM #130:	darkjedilink posted... That_Happened posted... darkjedilink posted... None of my ancestors came to this country until after 1910, so what do I owe black people, who may not even be descended from slaves? So, like my ancestors, your ancestors were part of the system that spent the next 50-60 years treating minorities as subhuman. This doesn't mean we actually "owe" anyone anything. But let's stop pretending like our ancestors (and ultimately you and I) didn't benefit from the system. Yeah, because Irish immigrants to America were treated SOOOO well... It's like you're pulling out every last little tired argument so you can minimalize the historically documented suffering that is part of this nation's legacy. --- If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply. <cite>Kineth posted [p:885246865] in Guys, whit... [t:75696608]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>That_Happened posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>None of my ancestors came to this country until after 1910, so what do I owe black people, who may not even be descended from slaves?</quote> So, like my ancestors, your ancestors were part of the system that spent the next 50-60 years treating minorities as subhuman. This doesn't mean we actually "owe" anyone anything. But let's stop pretending like our ancestors (and ultimately you and I) didn't benefit from the system.</quote> Yeah, because Irish immigrants to America were treated SOOOO well...</quote> It's like you're pulling out every last little tired argument so you can minimalize the historically documented suffering that is part of this nation's legacy.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Knowledge_King 08/22/17 2:36:56 PM #131:	Medz2017 posted... https://face2faceafrica.com/article/slavery-africa-today All slavery is not created equal. Chattel Slavery, the American Slavery was far worse than any other. Constant rape, torture, experimentation, killing, beating, abuse, etc. And it was unprecedented in that slaves' children were born into slavery which is not usually the case. Also splitting up families. darkjedilink posted... Or did you forget that BLM wants reparations from white people, when it's literally their own ancestry that caused the slave trade? None of my ancestors came to this country until after 1910, so what do I owe black people, who may not even be descended from slaves? No one wants reparations from 'white people.' It's from America, the country that enslaved them. White People just happen to make up the majority of the population so they'd see it 'taken' from their taxes. Also after 1910 is still a ton of horrible crimes against humanity done to Black People. darkjedilink posted... Yeah, because Irish immigrants to America were treated SOOOO well... Better than Black people yes. Actually recruited into the race of 'White' along with the other immigrants specifically to go against Black people. --- http://www.warwithwords.com He Who Leads: Global Ebook Award Winner:https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01CE0TLLM <cite>Knowledge_King posted [p:885246912] in Guys, whit... [t:75696608]...</cite> <quote><cite>Medz2017 posted...</cite> <quote>https://face2faceafrica.com/article/slavery-africa-today</quote> All slavery is not created equal. Chattel Slavery, the American Slavery was far worse than any other. Constant rape, torture, experimentation, killing, beating, abuse, etc. And it was unprecedented in that slaves' children were born into slavery which is not usually the case. Also splitting up families. <cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote> Or did you forget that BLM wants reparations from white people, when it's literally their own ancestry that caused the slave trade? None of my ancestors came to this country until after 1910, so what do I owe black people, who may not even be descended from slaves?</quote> No one wants reparations from 'white people.' It's from America, the country that enslaved them. White People just happen to make up the majority of the population so they'd see it 'taken' from their taxes. Also after 1910 is still a ton of horrible crimes against humanity done to Black People. <cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>Yeah, because Irish immigrants to America were treated SOOOO well...</quote> Better than Black people yes. Actually recruited into the race of 'White' along with the other immigrants specifically to go against Black people.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Horus_Leftfield 08/22/17 2:38:48 PM #132:	He won't get a new trial. They'll kill him just like they killed hundreds of innocent brothers. People will be momentarily horrified, then two days later capital punishment will go right back down to the bottom of the priority list. Not a single person will find the courage to stand up alongside us and say "black lives matter" even though the justice system is so obviously broken. You'll just let the It's paint us all as extremists like you always have. <cite>Horus_Leftfield posted [p:885247021] in Guys, whit... [t:75696608]...</cite> <quote>He won't get a new trial. They'll kill him just like they killed hundreds of innocent brothers. People will be momentarily horrified, then two days later capital punishment will go right back down to the bottom of the priority list. Not a single person will find the courage to stand up alongside us and say "black lives matter" even though the justice system is so obviously broken. You'll just let the It's paint us all as extremists like you always have.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 08/22/17 2:59:18 PM #133:	Kineth posted... darkjedilink posted... That_Happened posted... darkjedilink posted... None of my ancestors came to this country until after 1910, so what do I owe black people, who may not even be descended from slaves? So, like my ancestors, your ancestors were part of the system that spent the next 50-60 years treating minorities as subhuman. This doesn't mean we actually "owe" anyone anything. But let's stop pretending like our ancestors (and ultimately you and I) didn't benefit from the system. Yeah, because Irish immigrants to America were treated SOOOO well... It's like you're pulling out every last little tired argument so you can minimalize the historically documented suffering that is part of this nation's legacy. According to you, the only suffering people should be allowed to discuss is that of black people. Because you're racist. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:885248219] in Guys, whit... [t:75696608]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kineth posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>That_Happened posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>None of my ancestors came to this country until after 1910, so what do I owe black people, who may not even be descended from slaves?</quote> So, like my ancestors, your ancestors were part of the system that spent the next 50-60 years treating minorities as subhuman. This doesn't mean we actually "owe" anyone anything. But let's stop pretending like our ancestors (and ultimately you and I) didn't benefit from the system.</quote> Yeah, because Irish immigrants to America were treated SOOOO well...</quote> It's like you're pulling out every last little tired argument so you can minimalize the historically documented suffering that is part of this nation's legacy.</quote> According to you, the only suffering people should be allowed to discuss is that of black people. Because you're racist.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ammonitida 08/22/17 3:00:21 PM #134:	Horus_Leftfield posted... He won't get a new trial. They'll kill him just like they killed hundreds of innocent brothers. People will be momentarily horrified, then two days later capital punishment will go right back down to the bottom of the priority list. Not a single person will find the courage to stand up alongside us and say "black lives matter" even though the justice system is so obviously broken. You'll just let the It's paint us all as extremists like you always have. Wrong thread. <cite>Ammonitida posted [p:885248281] in Guys, whit... [t:75696608]...</cite> <quote><cite>Horus_Leftfield posted...</cite> <quote>He won't get a new trial. They'll kill him just like they killed hundreds of innocent brothers. People will be momentarily horrified, then two days later capital punishment will go right back down to the bottom of the priority list. Not a single person will find the courage to stand up alongside us and say "black lives matter" even though the justice system is so obviously broken. You'll just let the It's paint us all as extremists like you always have.</quote> Wrong thread.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChromaticAngel 08/22/17 3:02:11 PM #135:	darkjedilink posted... According to you, the only suffering people should be allowed to discuss is that of black people. Because you're racist. Where are the people flying flags that say "The Potato Famine will Rise Again!" You can talk about Irish suffering all you want, but nobody is glorifying it. Especially not with public state displays of that suffering or supremacist organizations that want to kill all Irish. --- https://puu.sh/tcLsT/24f4611235.png <cite>ChromaticAngel posted [p:885248389] in Guys, whit... [t:75696608]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>According to you, the only suffering people should be allowed to discuss is that of black people. Because you're racist.</quote> Where are the people flying flags that say "The Potato Famine will Rise Again!" You can talk about Irish suffering all you want, but nobody is glorifying it. Especially not with public state displays of that suffering or supremacist organizations that want to kill all Irish.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 08/22/17 3:02:32 PM #136:	That_Happened posted... darkjedilink posted... That_Happened posted... darkjedilink posted... None of my ancestors came to this country until after 1910, so what do I owe black people, who may not even be descended from slaves? So, like my ancestors, your ancestors were part of the system that spent the next 50-60 years treating minorities as subhuman. This doesn't mean we actually "owe" anyone anything. But let's stop pretending like our ancestors (and ultimately you and I) didn't benefit from the system. Yeah, because Irish immigrants to America were treated SOOOO well... My family is Irish too. They had it tough. They still wouldn't choose "black" over "Irish," and they still recognize they benefitted from the system more than minorities did. They literally are a minority... --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:885248410] in Guys, whit... [t:75696608]...</cite> <quote><cite>That_Happened posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>That_Happened posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>None of my ancestors came to this country until after 1910, so what do I owe black people, who may not even be descended from slaves?</quote> So, like my ancestors, your ancestors were part of the system that spent the next 50-60 years treating minorities as subhuman. This doesn't mean we actually "owe" anyone anything. But let's stop pretending like our ancestors (and ultimately you and I) didn't benefit from the system.</quote> Yeah, because Irish immigrants to America were treated SOOOO well...</quote> My family is Irish too. They had it tough. They still wouldn't choose "black" over "Irish," and they still recognize they benefitted from the system more than minorities did.</quote> They literally are a minority...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 08/22/17 3:03:36 PM #137:	ChromaticAngel posted... darkjedilink posted... According to you, the only suffering people should be allowed to discuss is that of black people. Because you're racist. Where are the people flying flags that say "The Potato Famine will Rise Again!" You can talk about Irish suffering all you want, but nobody is glorifying it. Especially not with public state displays of that suffering or supremacist organizations that want to kill all Irish. I guess, if you want to pretend that railroads through mountains don't exist... --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:885248475] in Guys, whit... [t:75696608]...</cite> <quote><cite>ChromaticAngel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>According to you, the only suffering people should be allowed to discuss is that of black people. Because you're racist.</quote> Where are the people flying flags that say "The Potato Famine will Rise Again!" You can talk about Irish suffering all you want, but nobody is glorifying it. Especially not with public state displays of that suffering or supremacist organizations that want to kill all Irish.</quote> I guess, if you want to pretend that railroads through mountains don't exist...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
That_Happened 08/22/17 3:04:30 PM #138:	darkjedilink posted... According to you, the only suffering people should be allowed to discuss is that of black people. Because you're racist. I don't see anyone creating any topics about Irish immigrants on CE. Know why? Because it's rarely brought up unless someone mentions minorities first. The whole "Irish immigrants suffered" line would be a lot more welcome if it wasn't only brought up to derail discussions of slavery and civil rights for blacks. --- http://fusionanomaly.net/magnoliabutitdidhappen.jpg <cite>That_Happened posted [p:885248537] in Guys, whit... [t:75696608]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>According to you, the only suffering people should be allowed to discuss is that of black people. Because you're racist.</quote> I don't see anyone creating any topics about Irish immigrants on CE. Know why? Because it's rarely brought up unless someone mentions minorities first. The whole "Irish immigrants suffered" line would be a lot more welcome if it wasn't only brought up to derail discussions of slavery and civil rights for blacks.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChromaticAngel 08/22/17 3:05:08 PM #139:	darkjedilink posted... I guess, if you want to pretend that railroads through mountains don't exist... How is a railroad a symbol of Irish suffering? --- https://puu.sh/tcLsT/24f4611235.png <cite>ChromaticAngel posted [p:885248572] in Guys, whit... [t:75696608]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote> I guess, if you want to pretend that railroads through mountains don't exist... </quote> How is a railroad a symbol of Irish suffering?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RickyTheBAWSE 08/22/17 3:05:44 PM #140:	Damn_Underscore posted... It comes down to this: Everyone would choose rich over poor 100% of the time when you say this... you're just joking, right? I can't tell because of all of the dumb shit already going on ITT, lol. --- Never let those intent on misunderstanding you be the narrator to your story! BAWSE! <cite>RickyTheBAWSE posted [p:885248606] in Guys, whit... [t:75696608]...</cite> <quote><cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote>It comes down to this: Everyone would choose rich over poor 100% of the time</quote> when you say this... you're just joking, right? I can't tell because of all of the dumb shit already going on ITT, lol.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Damn_Underscore 08/22/17 3:07:17 PM #142:	You'd rather be a poor white person than a rich black person? It sounds like you are the racist. --- Shenmue II = best game of all time Shenmue = 2nd best game of all time <cite>Damn_Underscore posted [p:885248693] in Guys, whit... [t:75696608]...</cite> <quote>You'd rather be a poor white person than a rich black person? It sounds like you are the racist.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RickyTheBAWSE 08/22/17 3:07:28 PM #143:	Damn_Underscore posted... You'd rather be a poor white person than a rich black person? Maybe you are the racist. oh okay, you're just joking. --- Never let those intent on misunderstanding you be the narrator to your story! BAWSE! <cite>RickyTheBAWSE posted [p:885248703] in Guys, whit... [t:75696608]...</cite> <quote><cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote>You'd rather be a poor white person than a rich black person? Maybe you are the racist.</quote> oh okay, you're just joking.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Damn_Underscore 08/22/17 3:09:38 PM #144:	My point is that the biggest issue and the main thing holding people back in this country today is social class --- Shenmue II = best game of all time Shenmue = 2nd best game of all time <cite>Damn_Underscore posted [p:885248839] in Guys, whit... [t:75696608]...</cite> <quote>My point is that the biggest issue and the main thing holding people back in this country today is social class</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RickyTheBAWSE 08/22/17 3:10:32 PM #145:	Damn_Underscore posted... My point is that the biggest issue and the main thing holding people back in this country today is social class nothing like that was ever pointed out in those post. but yes. --- Never let those intent on misunderstanding you be the narrator to your story! BAWSE! <cite>RickyTheBAWSE posted [p:885248886] in Guys, whit... [t:75696608]...</cite> <quote><cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote> My point is that the biggest issue and the main thing holding people back in this country today is social class</quote> nothing like that was ever pointed out in those post. but yes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ammonitida 08/22/17 3:10:45 PM #146:	Chattel Slavery, the American Slavery was far worse than any other. Constant rape, torture, experimentation, killing, beating, abuse, etc. And it was unprecedented in that slaves' children were born into slavery which is not usually the case. Also splitting up families. Chattel slavery was practiced all over the world. In Muslim Africa, children had to covert to be free but that was often ignored by slave masters. Female slaves were destined for repeated rape as they were used primarily for sex, and male slaves were often castrated, resulting in extremely high mortality rates. In some Kingdoms, like Dahomey, they were even sacrificed in addition to being raped, tortured and beaten. <cite>Ammonitida posted [p:885248899] in Guys, whit... [t:75696608]...</cite> <quote><quote>Chattel Slavery, the American Slavery was far worse than any other. Constant rape, torture, experimentation, killing, beating, abuse, etc. And it was unprecedented in that slaves' children were born into slavery which is not usually the case. Also splitting up families.</quote> Chattel slavery was practiced all over the world. In Muslim Africa, children had to covert to be free but that was often ignored by slave masters. Female slaves were destined for repeated rape as they were used primarily for sex, and male slaves were often castrated, resulting in extremely high mortality rates. In some Kingdoms, like Dahomey, they were even sacrificed in addition to being raped, tortured and beaten.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
lilJoe457 08/22/17 3:12:07 PM #147:	My family came from Ireland and Italy in the 1900s. I have nothing to do with it. In fact Irish were slaves. Actually. Lots of people in the world were slaves before the American and french revolution. So when they act like this is only America's sin it's lol. But I'm not gonna be guilted into something I had no part of. I saw someone on Facebook make the argument, you can't have white pride you can have pride in being Italian or French or German etc and that makes sense. But then that logic gets thrown out the window when all white people seem to get lumped in and generalized for slavery. But me saying I'm not gonna be guilted doesn't mean I don't think it was bad. But if you dont want statues that are public property then go about it the right way. I mean the laws we have exist for a reason so we cant just make random exceptions for things because who should have the power to just tell us when we should and shouldn't do things? Nobody should. That'd be a dictator. --- Breakin' necks and cashin' cheques. <cite>lilJoe457 posted [p:885248977] in Guys, whit... [t:75696608]...</cite> <quote>My family came from Ireland and Italy in the 1900s. I have nothing to do with it. In fact Irish were slaves. Actually. Lots of people in the world were slaves before the American and french revolution. So when they act like this is only America's sin it's lol. But I'm not gonna be guilted into something I had no part of. I saw someone on Facebook make the argument, you can't have white pride you can have pride in being Italian or French or German etc and that makes sense. But then that logic gets thrown out the window when all white people seem to get lumped in and generalized for slavery. But me saying I'm not gonna be guilted doesn't mean I don't think it was bad. But if you dont want statues that are public property then go about it the right way. I mean the laws we have exist for a reason so we cant just make random exceptions for things because who should have the power to just tell us when we should and shouldn't do things? Nobody should. That'd be a dictator.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChromaticAngel 08/22/17 3:19:12 PM #148:	lilJoe457 posted... But if you dont want statues that are public property then go about it the right way. I mean the laws we have exist for a reason so we cant just make random exceptions for things because who should have the power to just tell us when we should and shouldn't do things? Nobody should. That'd be a dictator. In the case of Charlottesville, the statue was already legally approved to be torn down. The vandalism across the country is reactionary to the nazi demonstrations + murder + half baked defense of the nazis by the president. I also don't agree with wanton destruction of state property--but to suggest that these idols are not only just, but necessary for historical preservation is nonsense doublespeak that belittles the suffering caused by the hands of these idols. Then people say "I had nothing to do with slavery" well you (not you specifically, just in general) suddenly did the moment you stood up to defend the right to have a statue of the leader of the slave states' armies on state property. --- https://puu.sh/tcLsT/24f4611235.png <cite>ChromaticAngel posted [p:885249450] in Guys, whit... [t:75696608]...</cite> <quote><cite>lilJoe457 posted...</cite> <quote>But if you dont want statues that are public property then go about it the right way. I mean the laws we have exist for a reason so we cant just make random exceptions for things because who should have the power to just tell us when we should and shouldn't do things? Nobody should. That'd be a dictator. </quote> In the case of Charlottesville, the statue was already legally approved to be torn down. The vandalism across the country is reactionary to the nazi demonstrations + murder + half baked defense of the nazis by the president. I also don't agree with wanton destruction of state property--but to suggest that these idols are not only just, but necessary for historical preservation is nonsense doublespeak that belittles the suffering caused by the hands of these idols. Then people say "I had nothing to do with slavery" well you (not you specifically, just in general) suddenly did the moment you stood up to defend the right to have a statue of the leader of the slave states' armies on state property.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BiggLaw 08/22/17 3:34:07 PM #149:	ChromaticAngel posted... lilJoe457 posted... But if you dont want statues that are public property then go about it the right way. I mean the laws we have exist for a reason so we cant just make random exceptions for things because who should have the power to just tell us when we should and shouldn't do things? Nobody should. That'd be a dictator. In the case of Charlottesville, the statue was already legally approved to be torn down. The vandalism across the country is reactionary to the nazi demonstrations + murder + half baked defense of the nazis by the president. I also don't agree with wanton destruction of state property--but to suggest that these idols are not only just, but necessary for historical preservation is nonsense doublespeak that belittles the suffering caused by the hands of these idols. Then people say "I had nothing to do with slavery" well you (not you specifically, just in general) suddenly did the moment you stood up to defend the right to have a statue of the leader of the slave states' armies on state property. The contradictory logic is pretty astounding. They'll say they had nothing to do with it, but complain about people who take issues with those who actually perpetuate the behavior. They'll actually insert themselves into situations and conversations that don't pertain to them, and strawman their ass off to make it look like they're under attack. "White supremacy is bad." "Not all White people are racist! My family wasn't even here yet!" Wtf? --- Don't hate the player, hate the game. I only play the cards I was dealt. Pooh Da Stryker still lives! <cite>BiggLaw posted [p:885250295] in Guys, whit... [t:75696608]...</cite> <quote><cite>ChromaticAngel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>lilJoe457 posted...</cite> <quote> But if you dont want statues that are public property then go about it the right way. I mean the laws we have exist for a reason so we cant just make random exceptions for things because who should have the power to just tell us when we should and shouldn't do things? Nobody should. That'd be a dictator. </quote> In the case of Charlottesville, the statue was already legally approved to be torn down. The vandalism across the country is reactionary to the nazi demonstrations + murder + half baked defense of the nazis by the president. I also don't agree with wanton destruction of state property--but to suggest that these idols are not only just, but necessary for historical preservation is nonsense doublespeak that belittles the suffering caused by the hands of these idols. Then people say "I had nothing to do with slavery" well you (not you specifically, just in general) suddenly did the moment you stood up to defend the right to have a statue of the leader of the slave states' armies on state property.</quote> The contradictory logic is pretty astounding. They'll say they had nothing to do with it, but complain about people who take issues with those who actually perpetuate the behavior. They'll actually insert themselves into situations and conversations that don't pertain to them, and strawman their ass off to make it look like they're under attack. "White supremacy is bad." "Not all White people are racist! My family wasn't even here yet!" Wtf?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 08/22/17 3:34:16 PM #150:	ChromaticAngel posted... darkjedilink posted... I guess, if you want to pretend that railroads through mountains don't exist... How is a railroad a symbol of Irish suffering? Someone apparently didn't take history class. Irish immigrants were indentured servants (i.e. slave labor) to the robber barons who built them. They were forced to work 16-hour days and handle unstable explosives, until they died in debt to said robber barons. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:885250304] in Guys, whit... [t:75696608]...</cite> <quote><cite>ChromaticAngel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote> I guess, if you want to pretend that railroads through mountains don't exist... </quote> How is a railroad a symbol of Irish suffering?</quote> Someone apparently didn't take history class. Irish immigrants were indentured servants (i.e. slave labor) to the robber barons who built them. They were forced to work 16-hour days and handle unstable explosives, until they died in debt to said robber barons.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RickyTheBAWSE 08/22/17 3:39:23 PM #151:	darkjedilink posted... ChromaticAngel posted... darkjedilink posted... I guess, if you want to pretend that railroads through mountains don't exist... How is a railroad a symbol of Irish suffering? Someone apparently didn't take history class. Irish immigrants were indentured servants (i.e. slave labor) to the robber barons who built them. They were forced to work 16-hour days and handle unstable explosives, until they died in debt to said robber barons. you understand history about as well as you understand definitions. both need serious work. those Irish indentured servants were not slaves. they were free to go after whatever contract was up. --- Never let those intent on misunderstanding you be the narrator to your story! BAWSE! <cite>RickyTheBAWSE posted [p:885250640] in Guys, whit... [t:75696608]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>ChromaticAngel posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote> I guess, if you want to pretend that railroads through mountains don't exist... </quote> How is a railroad a symbol of Irish suffering? </quote> Someone apparently didn't take history class. Irish immigrants were indentured servants (i.e. slave labor) to the robber barons who built them. They were forced to work 16-hour days and handle unstable explosives, until they died in debt to said robber barons.</quote> you understand history about as well as you understand definitions. both need serious work. those Irish indentured servants were not slaves. they were free to go after whatever contract was up.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChromaticAngel 08/22/17 3:43:26 PM #152:	darkjedilink posted... ChromaticAngel posted... darkjedilink posted... I guess, if you want to pretend that railroads through mountains don't exist... How is a railroad a symbol of Irish suffering? Someone apparently didn't take history class. Irish immigrants were indentured servants (i.e. slave labor) to the robber barons who built them. They were forced to work 16-hour days and handle unstable explosives, until they died in debt to said robber barons. Or someone's history class was good enough to know that everyone was an indentured servant at one point (including the original african slaves, that when purchased, immediately had their status upgraded to indentured servant) and that the Irish's suffering as indentured servitude isn't categorically the same as the trans atlantic slave trade. Irish suffering as indentured servants is discussed extensively in greivances related to colonialism. If you want to bitch about how awful colonialism and indentured servitude is, I suggest you go do it in another thread where I will support you 100% and stop crapping up this thread with off topic shit. --- https://puu.sh/tcLsT/24f4611235.png <cite>ChromaticAngel posted [p:885250896] in Guys, whit... [t:75696608]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ChromaticAngel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote> I guess, if you want to pretend that railroads through mountains don't exist... </quote> How is a railroad a symbol of Irish suffering?</quote> Someone apparently didn't take history class. Irish immigrants were indentured servants (i.e. slave labor) to the robber barons who built them. They were forced to work 16-hour days and handle unstable explosives, until they died in debt to said robber barons.</quote> Or someone's history class was good enough to know that everyone was an indentured servant at one point (including the original african slaves, that when purchased, immediately had their status upgraded to indentured servant) and that the Irish's suffering as indentured servitude isn't categorically the same as the trans atlantic slave trade. Irish suffering as indentured servants is discussed extensively in greivances related to colonialism. If you want to bitch about how awful colonialism and indentured servitude is, I suggest you go do it in another thread where I will support you 100% and stop crapping up this thread with off topic shit.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tennisdude818 08/22/17 3:48:04 PM #153:	The illegitimacy rate in some inner cities is around 80%. Thanks goodness some statues 1000 miles away were taken down though. --- "Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." -Thomas Sowell <cite>tennisdude818 posted [p:885251160] in Guys, whit... [t:75696608]...</cite> <quote>The illegitimacy rate in some inner cities is around 80%. Thanks goodness some statues 1000 miles away were taken down though.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kineth 08/22/17 3:49:06 PM #154:	tennisdude818 posted... The illegitimacy rate in some inner cities is around 80%. Thanks goodness some statues 1000 miles away were taken down though. Because those 2 issues are fucking related. gtfo with this lazy ass deflecting garbage. --- If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply. <cite>Kineth posted [p:885251235] in Guys, whit... [t:75696608]...</cite> <quote><cite>tennisdude818 posted...</cite> <quote>The illegitimacy rate in some inner cities is around 80%. Thanks goodness some statues 1000 miles away were taken down though.</quote> Because those 2 issues are fucking related. gtfo with this lazy ass deflecting garbage.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RickyTheBAWSE 08/22/17 3:49:46 PM #155:	ChromaticAngel posted... darkjedilink posted... ChromaticAngel posted... darkjedilink posted... I guess, if you want to pretend that railroads through mountains don't exist... How is a railroad a symbol of Irish suffering? Someone apparently didn't take history class. Irish immigrants were indentured servants (i.e. slave labor) to the robber barons who built them. They were forced to work 16-hour days and handle unstable explosives, until they died in debt to said robber barons. Or someone's history class was good enough to know that everyone was an indentured servant at one point (including the original african slaves, that when purchased, immediately had their status upgraded to indentured servant) and that the Irish's suffering as indentured servitude isn't categorically the same as the trans atlantic slave trade. Irish suffering as indentured servants is discussed extensively in greivances related to colonialism. If you want to bitch about how awful colonialism and indentured servitude is, I suggest you go do it in another thread where I will support you 100% and stop crapping up this thread with off topic shit. why do that when the entire purpose was a roundabout way to tell Black people to STFU? --- Never let those intent on misunderstanding you be the narrator to your story! BAWSE! <cite>RickyTheBAWSE posted [p:885251287] in Guys, whit... [t:75696608]...</cite> <quote><cite>ChromaticAngel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>ChromaticAngel posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote> I guess, if you want to pretend that railroads through mountains don't exist... </quote> How is a railroad a symbol of Irish suffering? </quote> Someone apparently didn't take history class. Irish immigrants were indentured servants (i.e. slave labor) to the robber barons who built them. They were forced to work 16-hour days and handle unstable explosives, until they died in debt to said robber barons.</quote> Or someone's history class was good enough to know that everyone was an indentured servant at one point (including the original african slaves, that when purchased, immediately had their status upgraded to indentured servant) and that the Irish's suffering as indentured servitude isn't categorically the same as the trans atlantic slave trade. Irish suffering as indentured servants is discussed extensively in greivances related to colonialism. If you want to bitch about how awful colonialism and indentured servitude is, I suggest you go do it in another thread where I will support you 100% and stop crapping up this thread with off topic shit.</quote> why do that when the entire purpose was a roundabout way to tell Black people to STFU?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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