Current Events > Honestly, I'm Starting To Believe That Lifting Weights Is Worthless For Me

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Naturally.

What's the point in continuing to push myself to my natural limits, when hypothetically, taking Steroids would achieve quicker results and even push me beyond my limitations? If I could become the best version of myself in 1-2 months, compared to what it would take in 7-8+ months, than what's the point? Couldn't someone just take steroids, and then eventually come off and do the best they can to maintain their physique?

I hear all this diet and exercise and work hard stuff only, and yet a guy can cheat the system and become even stronger in a shorter amount of time with PED's.

@TheDarkCircle

if you take STEROIDS your PENIS will fall off and you will DIE
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Your title doesn't make sense. Even if you use steroids you still have to lift. It's not like they magically make you stronger while you sit around reading manga
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1-2 months? What kinda magical steroids are you talking about?
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iron jojo posted...

Your title doesn't make sense. Even if you use steroids you still have to lift. It's not like they magically make you stronger while you sit around reading manga

Because it's an 80/80, hence the bold . Lifting with steroids will give me much more potential and strength than just lifting the natty way in the same time frame

furthermore, we have people in the professional sports field who have taken steroids. So honestly, I'm losing faith in all this "just work hard, do things natural" nonsense that keeps being forced on me.

If I can get stronger and better in a shorter time frame, what's the consequence? getting arrested? lol

itachi15243 posted...

1-2 months? What kinda magical steroids are you talking about?

It's also dependent on newbgains and genetics. Some people excel in certain things easier compared to others. I've seen people get much bigger+stronger in 1-2 months with steroids and lifting, compared to w/o it and making marginal gains.

are you asking why all people don't take steroids? Kinda a dumb question, they are potentially dangerous, not really something that a lot of folks put into your body. Plus, either way you gotta stay lifting or your gains will go away.

A lot of people take steroids because they are aging and have to keep up with younger people with more testosterone than them. Roger Clemons, trying to pitch at 40 years old, good example.

I honestly have such a high metabolism that big gains are like impossible without some kinda PED. It doesn't take me long to get down to like 7% body fat but it takes me a long time to get from 160 to 180.
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i thought once you drop the PEDs that the gains are lost; you can't get to where you want to be and quit and keep your gains.

idk, i could be wrong...
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yemmy posted...

are you asking why all people don't take steroids? Kinda a dumb question, they are potentially dangerous, not really something that a lot of folks put into your body. Plus, either way you gotta stay lifting or your gains will go away.

A lot of people take steroids because they are aging and have to keep up with younger people with more testosterone than them. Roger Clemons, trying to pitch at 40 years old, good example.

I honestly have such a high metabolism that big gains are like impossible without some kinda PED. It doesn't take me long to get down to like 7% body fat but it takes me a long time to get from 160 to 180.

No dude. C'mon. Besides, everything is potentially dangerous, but it seems silly for me to just do things the natural way when it isn't working

I'm tired of reaching a limit. I want to break that limit and I feel that steroids can ascend me past my limitations. Both in body and in strength!

GamingLablet posted...

furthermore, we have people in the professional sports field who have taken steroids. So honestly, I'm losing faith in all this "just work hard, do things natural" nonsense that keeps being forced on me.

If I can get stronger and better in a shorter time frame, what's the consequence? getting arrested? lol

If used properly you won't start seeing a difference until a few weeks to over a month of test. 6+ weeks with growth hormone.

Steroids don't make you gain that much more, it's more so that that your body heals fast and you can lift more, more often.
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BuckVanHammer posted...

i thought once you drop the PEDs that the gains are lost; you can't get to where you want to be and quit and keep your gains.

depends on which ones. HGH isn't like that but anabolics are I believe.
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itachi15243 posted...

GamingLablet posted...

furthermore, we have people in the professional sports field who have taken steroids. So honestly, I'm losing faith in all this "just work hard, do things natural" nonsense that keeps being forced on me.

If I can get stronger and better in a shorter time frame, what's the consequence? getting arrested? lol

If used properly you won't start seeing a difference until a few weeks to over a month of test. 6+ weeks with growth hormone.

Steroids don't make you gain that much more, it's more so that that your body heals fast and you can lift more, more often.

This seems much better than having to wait several more months to see a visual difference

GamingLablet posted...

I'm tired of reaching a limit. I want to break that limit and I feel that steroids can ascend me past my limitations. Both in body and in strength!

Well I know a lot of people that have fucked with anabolics and it does affect their personal life. Roid rage is real. Plus I think it is a felony if you got pulled over with them in most states (could be wrong).

I took HGH when I ran and boxed in high school. It didn't make me exactly huge (I didn't want to box heavyweight division anyway), but it made me very cut up. It didn't seem to have a lot of side effects but it isn't probably want you want anyway.

I also wasn't as much of a gym rat as you are too. I just wanted to be quick. Different routines for that than someone who wants pure strength.
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yemmy posted...

BuckVanHammer posted...

i thought once you drop the PEDs that the gains are lost; you can't get to where you want to be and quit and keep your gains.

depends on which ones. HGH isn't like that but anabolics are I believe.

HGH is kinda like that if you properly cycle

GamingLablet posted...

itachi15243 posted...

GamingLablet posted...

furthermore, we have people in the professional sports field who have taken steroids. So honestly, I'm losing faith in all this "just work hard, do things natural" nonsense that keeps being forced on me.

If I can get stronger and better in a shorter time frame, what's the consequence? getting arrested? lol

If used properly you won't start seeing a difference until a few weeks to over a month of test. 6+ weeks with growth hormone.

Steroids don't make you gain that much more, it's more so that that your body heals fast and you can lift more, more often.

This seems much better than having to wait several more months to see a visual difference

If you don't know what you're doing you can seriously fuck yourself up
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honestly the only thing worrying me isn't the health issues, but the hair loss. I am predisposed to balding, even have some thinning. dont know if it would automatically cause me to lose most of my hair or drastically accelerate the loss, though

Why would some random person who is not a professional athlete take steroids? Ypu dont even have to have a good diet if your goal is just to get stronger or build muscle. You just have to eat and lift. Taking a dangerous makes literally no sense.
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Callixtus posted...

Why would some random person who is not a professional athlete take steroids? Ypu dont even have to have a good diet if your goal is just to get stronger or build muscle. You just have to eat and lift. Taking a dangerous makes literally no sense.

Because it'd push you past your genetic limitations(body,strength,etc) and bring you to the best version of yourself in a quicker amount of time.

Everything is dangerous. Or can be. Yet if these professional athletes aren't dying one by one, then why should I be worried?

My thing is: Why should I have to wait 1-2+ years for something I can achieve in a quicker time frame? Steroids could make me stronger and look better than what I could ever achieve if I did something naturally. Even Arnold took steroids when he was younger, along with a lot of WWE stars.

It'd be a matter of working smarter, not harder.

if you can take the risk of hair loss, go for it