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Zikten 08/28/17 1:21:26 PM #102:	eston posted... In this case it was a student calling her by the wrong name, which is something that would be corrected in every other situation. yea but the "correction" was a punishment. and the girl simply made a mistake. it wasn't fair <cite>Zikten posted [p:885597443] in 1st grader... [t:75707845]...</cite> <quote><cite>eston posted...</cite> <quote> In this case it was a student calling her by the wrong name, which is something that would be corrected in every other situation.</quote> yea but the "correction" was a punishment. and the girl simply made a mistake. it wasn't fair</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 08/28/17 1:23:18 PM #103:	Zikten posted... eston posted... In this case it was a student calling her by the wrong name, which is something that would be corrected in every other situation. yea but the "correction" was a punishment. and the girl simply made a mistake. it wasn't fair not to mention that we shouldn't be indoctrinating children into our political games and dogmas <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:885597543] in 1st grader... [t:75707845]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zikten posted...</cite> <quote><cite>eston posted...</cite> <quote> In this case it was a student calling her by the wrong name, which is something that would be corrected in every other situation.</quote> yea but the "correction" was a punishment. and the girl simply made a mistake. it wasn't fair</quote> not to mention that we shouldn't be indoctrinating children into our political games and dogmas</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
fire_bolt 08/28/17 1:24:59 PM #104:	FLUFFYGERM posted... Zikten posted... eston posted... In this case it was a student calling her by the wrong name, which is something that would be corrected in every other situation. yea but the "correction" was a punishment. and the girl simply made a mistake. it wasn't fair not to mention that we shouldn't be indoctrinating children into our political games and dogmas So it safe to assume you agree children should not be forced to attend religious services to prevent indoctrination into religion? --- If her hips don't break, you didn't "carry" hard enough" -SpunkySix http://steamcommunity.com/id/bolt_thundara/wishlist <cite>fire_bolt posted [p:885597634] in 1st grader... [t:75707845]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zikten posted...</cite> <quote><cite>eston posted...</cite> <quote> In this case it was a student calling her by the wrong name, which is something that would be corrected in every other situation.</quote> yea but the "correction" was a punishment. and the girl simply made a mistake. it wasn't fair</quote> not to mention that we shouldn't be indoctrinating children into our political games and dogmas</quote> So it safe to assume you agree children should not be forced to attend religious services to prevent indoctrination into religion?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
andel 08/28/17 1:25:19 PM #105:	transgender people are a thing but a lot of the time awful parents push them to this for attention --- I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis <cite>andel posted [p:885597653] in 1st grader... [t:75707845]...</cite> <quote>transgender people are a thing but a lot of the time awful parents push them to this for attention</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 08/28/17 1:27:01 PM #106:	andel posted... transgender people are a thing but a lot of the time awful parents push them to this for attention certain types of parents are overjoyed when their kid is trans. they celebrate it and show the world how progressive parents they are. I bet there are some parents out there that wish their kids were trans and are bitter they aren't <cite>Zikten posted [p:885597762] in 1st grader... [t:75707845]...</cite> <quote><cite>andel posted...</cite> <quote>transgender people are a thing but a lot of the time awful parents push them to this for attention</quote> certain types of parents are overjoyed when their kid is trans. they celebrate it and show the world how progressive parents they are. I bet there are some parents out there that wish their kids were trans and are bitter they aren't</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 08/28/17 1:27:49 PM #107:	fire_bolt posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... Zikten posted... eston posted... In this case it was a student calling her by the wrong name, which is something that would be corrected in every other situation. yea but the "correction" was a punishment. and the girl simply made a mistake. it wasn't fair not to mention that we shouldn't be indoctrinating children into our political games and dogmas So it safe to assume you agree children should not be forced to attend religious services to prevent indoctrination into religion? yes <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:885597810] in 1st grader... [t:75707845]...</cite> <quote><cite>fire_bolt posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zikten posted...</cite> <quote><cite>eston posted...</cite> <quote> In this case it was a student calling her by the wrong name, which is something that would be corrected in every other situation.</quote> yea but the "correction" was a punishment. and the girl simply made a mistake. it wasn't fair</quote> not to mention that we shouldn't be indoctrinating children into our political games and dogmas</quote> So it safe to assume you agree children should not be forced to attend religious services to prevent indoctrination into religion?</quote> yes</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
fire_bolt 08/28/17 1:29:40 PM #108:	FLUFFYGERM posted... fire_bolt posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... Zikten posted... eston posted... In this case it was a student calling her by the wrong name, which is something that would be corrected in every other situation. yea but the "correction" was a punishment. and the girl simply made a mistake. it wasn't fair not to mention that we shouldn't be indoctrinating children into our political games and dogmas So it safe to assume you agree children should not be forced to attend religious services to prevent indoctrination into religion? yes K, good for staying on message. Too many hypocrites support one and oppose the other. While I disagree with you on some points, I can respect that --- If her hips don't break, you didn't "carry" hard enough" -SpunkySix http://steamcommunity.com/id/bolt_thundara/wishlist <cite>fire_bolt posted [p:885597920] in 1st grader... [t:75707845]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>fire_bolt posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zikten posted...</cite> <quote><cite>eston posted...</cite> <quote> In this case it was a student calling her by the wrong name, which is something that would be corrected in every other situation.</quote> yea but the "correction" was a punishment. and the girl simply made a mistake. it wasn't fair</quote> not to mention that we shouldn't be indoctrinating children into our political games and dogmas</quote> So it safe to assume you agree children should not be forced to attend religious services to prevent indoctrination into religion?</quote> yes</quote> K, good for staying on message. Too many hypocrites support one and oppose the other. While I disagree with you on some points, I can respect that</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
eston 08/28/17 1:30:15 PM #109:	Zikten posted... eston posted... In this case it was a student calling her by the wrong name, which is something that would be corrected in every other situation. yea but the "correction" was a punishment. and the girl simply made a mistake. it wasn't fair Where does it say she was punished? Simply going to the office is not a punishment --- http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i215/estonc/grizzly_bear_chairs_2.jpg http://i.imgur.com/8kjZU.jpg <cite>eston posted [p:885597958] in 1st grader... [t:75707845]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zikten posted...</cite> <quote><cite>eston posted...</cite> <quote> In this case it was a student calling her by the wrong name, which is something that would be corrected in every other situation.</quote> yea but the "correction" was a punishment. and the girl simply made a mistake. it wasn't fair</quote> Where does it say she was punished? Simply going to the office is not a punishment</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MangaFan462 08/29/17 1:36:00 AM #111:	Gojak_v3 posted... byron posted... User Since: Jul 2009 Karma: 72 Active Posts: 16 Total Badges: 7 How is his karma and posting history relevant when he linked an article? Oh right you just wanted to try to deflect. Libruls lol --- Posted using GameFlux https://i.imgur.com/Il34cSX.jpg / https://i.redd.it/zwfbqetu2b8y.jpg <cite>MangaFan462 posted [p:885636759] in 1st grader... [t:75707845]...</cite> <quote><cite>Gojak_v3 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>byron posted...</cite> <quote><quote>User Since: Jul 2009 Karma: 72 Active Posts: 16 Total Badges: 7</quote></quote> How is his karma and posting history relevant when he linked an article? Oh right you just wanted to try to deflect.</quote> Libruls lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Amatsukaze 08/29/17 1:47:16 AM #112:	darkjedilink posted... Children cannot be transgender, so this is complete bulls*. True, in fact it's fucking child abuse to push such nonsense onto a child, --- http://tinyurl.com/zzyult6 - http://tinyurl.com/zwaaeta - https://tinyurl.com/y9le9jym http://tinyurl.com/h8j8vrd - http://tinyurl.com/j4lyk7j - EMM///REEE <cite>Amatsukaze posted [p:885637162] in 1st grader... [t:75707845]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>Children cannot be transgender, so this is complete bulls*.</quote> True, in fact it's fucking child abuse to push such nonsense onto a child,</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JohnLennon6 08/29/17 7:43:07 AM #113:	Amatsukaze posted... darkjedilink posted... Children cannot be transgender, so this is complete bulls*. True, in fact it's fucking child abuse to push such nonsense onto a child, Whose alt is this? --- Blue Lives Matter <cite>JohnLennon6 posted [p:885645271] in 1st grader... [t:75707845]...</cite> <quote><cite>Amatsukaze posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>Children cannot be transgender, so this is complete bulls*.</quote> True, in fact it's fucking child abuse to push such nonsense onto a child,</quote> Whose alt is this?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 08/29/17 8:47:39 AM #114:	Medussa posted... darkjedilink posted... Medussa posted... shockthemonkey posted... darkjedilink posted... Children cannot be transgender, so this is complete bullshit. lolwut he posted that same thing 5 times in another topic, and ignored me every time i called bullshit. until the last time, when I used his own defense of said bullshit to rip the claim to shreds. and yet, I'm not even slightly surprised he's posting it again, and will continue to post it for as long as the mods allow him to. Your 'ripping the claim to shreds' was literally 'no it's not!!!!’ over and over again. Gender dysphoria doesn't present until puberty, and almost every case self-corrects. Now, if being transgender requires gender dysphoria, and gender dysphoria doesn't present until puberty, how do kids become transgender? They can't. at first. then I kept asking you to support your claim. your response was "science". then, someone else tried to support your claim for you, and you agreed with it. a study stating a large percentage of kids stop showing signs of being trans as they age (which I still find flawed, for the record). but, again, your claim is absolute. no trans kids, full goddamn stop. but if there are no trans kids, then the desistance rate should be 100%. so, yet again: BULLSHIT. 1) being trans doesn't require dysphoria. it's super common, but not 100% 2) yes, it can absolutely manifest before puberty. 3) there are literally trans kids out there. there are literally trans people out there who knew as kids. there are literally trans people here who knew as kids (hi, by the way. not at all nice to meet you) You have sourced exactly none of this. Ever. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:885647107] in 1st grader... [t:75707845]...</cite> <quote><cite>Medussa posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Medussa posted...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>Children cannot be transgender, so this is complete bullshit.</quote> lolwut</quote> he posted that same thing 5 times in another topic, and ignored me every time i called bullshit. until the last time, when I used his own defense of said bullshit to rip the claim to shreds. and yet, I'm not even slightly surprised he's posting it again, and will continue to post it for as long as the mods allow him to.</quote> Your 'ripping the claim to shreds' was literally 'no it's not!!!!’ over and over again. Gender dysphoria doesn't present until puberty, and almost every case self-corrects. Now, if being transgender requires gender dysphoria, and gender dysphoria doesn't present until puberty, how do kids become transgender? They can't.</quote> at first. then I kept asking you to support your claim. your response was "science". then, someone else tried to support your claim for you, and you agreed with it. a study stating a large percentage of kids stop showing signs of being trans as they age (which I still find flawed, for the record). but, again, your claim is absolute. no trans kids, full goddamn stop. but if there are no trans kids, then the desistance rate should be 100%. so, yet again: BULLSHIT. 1) being trans doesn't require dysphoria. it's super common, but not 100% 2) yes, it can absolutely manifest before puberty. 3) there are literally trans kids out there. there are literally trans people out there who knew as kids. there are literally trans people here who knew as kids (hi, by the way. not at all nice to meet you)</quote> You have sourced exactly none of this. Ever.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
C7D 08/29/17 9:54:27 AM #115:	I would instantly pull my kids from the school and homeschool them. I don't want my children getting their moral standards from the school system especially when they are as nuts as this. You have people saying that truth is no longer truth because it is now inconvenient. Lying for expediency and empathy is still lying. <cite>C7D posted [p:885649469] in 1st grader... [t:75707845]...</cite> <quote>I would instantly pull my kids from the school and homeschool them. I don't want my children getting their moral standards from the school system especially when they are as nuts as this. You have people saying that truth is no longer truth because it is now inconvenient. Lying for expediency and empathy is still lying.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Medussa 08/29/17 11:05:04 AM #117:	darkjedilink posted... You have sourced exactly none of this. Ever. the hypocrisy is staggering. --- Boom! That's right, this is all happening! You cannot change the channel now! Act now! Venchmen are standing by for your orders! <cite>Medussa posted [p:885652539] in 1st grader... [t:75707845]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>You have sourced exactly none of this. Ever.</quote> the hypocrisy is staggering.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
C7D 08/29/17 11:08:09 AM #118:	shockthemonkey posted... C7D posted... I would instantly pull my kids from the school and homeschool them. I don't want my children getting their moral standards from the school system especially when they are as nuts as this. You have people saying that truth is no longer truth because it is now inconvenient. Lying for expediency and empathy is still lying. lmao your kids are gonna be awful and worthless aren't they? My level of intelligence is greater than the typical teachers. My morals are superior to administrations who would support this. If I didn't have to be at work so often, they would already be educated at home. If you think that recognizing someone to be a gender that they aren't is acceptable, I'm afraid the joke is on you. My kids pray for their friends and invite them to church. I think they will be just fine. Thanks for your concern though. <cite>C7D posted [p:885652678] in 1st grader... [t:75707845]...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote><cite>C7D posted...</cite> <quote>I would instantly pull my kids from the school and homeschool them. I don't want my children getting their moral standards from the school system especially when they are as nuts as this. You have people saying that truth is no longer truth because it is now inconvenient. Lying for expediency and empathy is still lying.</quote> lmao your kids are gonna be awful and worthless aren't they?</quote> My level of intelligence is greater than the typical teachers. My morals are superior to administrations who would support this. If I didn't have to be at work so often, they would already be educated at home. If you think that recognizing someone to be a gender that they aren't is acceptable, I'm afraid the joke is on you. My kids pray for their friends and invite them to church. I think they will be just fine. Thanks for your concern though.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Deadpool 08/29/17 11:18:14 AM #120:	VandorLee posted... No its literally "I feel a certain way so address me so". Oddly enough, if I were to refer to you as "mongrel idiot" it would be a moddable offense... What's the difference? --- We are living in a world today where lemonade is made from artificial flavors and furniture polish is made from real lemons. <cite>The Deadpool posted [p:885653144] in 1st grader... [t:75707845]...</cite> <quote><cite>VandorLee posted...</cite> <quote>No its literally "I feel a certain way so address me so".</quote> Oddly enough, if I were to refer to you as "mongrel idiot" it would be a moddable offense... What's the difference?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 08/29/17 11:19:21 AM #121:	Medussa posted... darkjedilink posted... You have sourced exactly none of this. Ever. the hypocrisy is staggering. I didn't need to - you already admitted someone else did. You're the one arguing against scientific data to suggest the opposite with literally nothing to back up anything you say. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:885653198] in 1st grader... [t:75707845]...</cite> <quote><cite>Medussa posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>You have sourced exactly none of this. Ever.</quote> the hypocrisy is staggering.</quote> I didn't need to - you already admitted someone else did. You're the one arguing against scientific data to suggest the opposite with literally nothing to back up anything you say.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Medussa 08/29/17 11:27:46 AM #122:	darkjedilink posted... Medussa posted... darkjedilink posted... You have sourced exactly none of this. Ever. the hypocrisy is staggering. I didn't need to - you already admitted someone else did. You're the one arguing against scientific data to suggest the opposite with literally nothing to back up anything you say. You can not be serious. I never said someone else supported your bullshit. I said the exact opposite. That the posted study, in fact, destroys your claim. --- Boom! That's right, this is all happening! You cannot change the channel now! Act now! Venchmen are standing by for your orders! <cite>Medussa posted [p:885653587] in 1st grader... [t:75707845]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Medussa posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>You have sourced exactly none of this. Ever.</quote> the hypocrisy is staggering.</quote> I didn't need to - you already admitted someone else did. You're the one arguing against scientific data to suggest the opposite with literally nothing to back up anything you say.</quote> You can not be serious. I never said someone else supported your bullshit. I said the exact opposite. That the posted study, in fact, destroys your claim.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ImTheMacheteGuy 08/29/17 12:13:17 PM #123:	The Admiral posted... ?There was a little girl who had been in class with the little boy all last year,? Ms. England said. ?They?re in different classes now, but she saw him on the playground yesterday and called him by his name. The little girl was told ?you can?t do that, his name is this name,? and ?you need to call him a ?her.?? Then she was called to the principal?s office.? This is why people hate liberals. This is why misguided simpleton morons hate liberals, but also why normal, decent people hate fucking dumb lunatics with shit for brains who also coincidentally happen to be on the left side. --- Place-holder sig because new phone and old sigs not saved :/ <cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted [p:885655943] in 1st grader... [t:75707845]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote><quote>?There was a little girl who had been in class with the little boy all last year,? Ms. England said. ?They?re in different classes now, but she saw him on the playground yesterday and called him by his name. The little girl was told ?you can?t do that, his name is this name,? and ?you need to call him a ?her.?? Then she was called to the principal?s office.?</quote> This is why people hate liberals.</quote> This is why misguided simpleton morons hate liberals, but also why normal, decent people hate fucking dumb lunatics with shit for brains who also coincidentally happen to be on the left side.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ImTheMacheteGuy 08/29/17 12:16:46 PM #124:	C7D posted... shockthemonkey posted... C7D posted... I would instantly pull my kids from the school and homeschool them. I don't want my children getting their moral standards from the school system especially when they are as nuts as this. You have people saying that truth is no longer truth because it is now inconvenient. Lying for expediency and empathy is still lying. lmao your kids are gonna be awful and worthless aren't they? My level of intelligence is greater than the typical teachers. My morals are superior to administrations who would support this. If I didn't have to be at work so often, they would already be educated at home. If you think that recognizing someone to be a gender that they aren't is acceptable, I'm afraid the joke is on you. My kids pray for their friends and invite them to church. I think they will be just fine. Thanks for your concern though. XD pray for friends and invite them to church? How do they even have friends at this point? --- Place-holder sig because new phone and old sigs not saved :/ <cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted [p:885656160] in 1st grader... [t:75707845]...</cite> <quote><cite>C7D posted...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote><cite>C7D posted...</cite> <quote>I would instantly pull my kids from the school and homeschool them. I don't want my children getting their moral standards from the school system especially when they are as nuts as this. You have people saying that truth is no longer truth because it is now inconvenient. Lying for expediency and empathy is still lying.</quote> lmao your kids are gonna be awful and worthless aren't they?</quote> My level of intelligence is greater than the typical teachers. My morals are superior to administrations who would support this. If I didn't have to be at work so often, they would already be educated at home. If you think that recognizing someone to be a gender that they aren't is acceptable, I'm afraid the joke is on you. My kids pray for their friends and invite them to church. I think they will be just fine. Thanks for your concern though.</quote> XD pray for friends and invite them to church? How do they even have friends at this point?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
C7D 08/29/17 12:23:06 PM #125:	ImTheMacheteGuy posted... C7D posted... shockthemonkey posted... C7D posted... I would instantly pull my kids from the school and homeschool them. I don't want my children getting their moral standards from the school system especially when they are as nuts as this. You have people saying that truth is no longer truth because it is now inconvenient. Lying for expediency and empathy is still lying. lmao your kids are gonna be awful and worthless aren't they? My level of intelligence is greater than the typical teachers. My morals are superior to administrations who would support this. If I didn't have to be at work so often, they would already be educated at home. If you think that recognizing someone to be a gender that they aren't is acceptable, I'm afraid the joke is on you. My kids pray for their friends and invite them to church. I think they will be just fine. Thanks for your concern though. XD pray for friends and invite them to church? How do they even have friends at this point? The world outside of the internet is full of heterosexual people, confident of their birth gender, who enjoy performing activities like playing football, basketball, and baseball while making jokes about people like you. Sadly, this seems to come as a shocker to many of you. <cite>C7D posted [p:885656530] in 1st grader... [t:75707845]...</cite> <quote><cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>C7D posted...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote><cite>C7D posted...</cite> <quote>I would instantly pull my kids from the school and homeschool them. I don't want my children getting their moral standards from the school system especially when they are as nuts as this. You have people saying that truth is no longer truth because it is now inconvenient. Lying for expediency and empathy is still lying.</quote> lmao your kids are gonna be awful and worthless aren't they?</quote> My level of intelligence is greater than the typical teachers. My morals are superior to administrations who would support this. If I didn't have to be at work so often, they would already be educated at home. If you think that recognizing someone to be a gender that they aren't is acceptable, I'm afraid the joke is on you. My kids pray for their friends and invite them to church. I think they will be just fine. Thanks for your concern though.</quote> XD pray for friends and invite them to church? How do they even have friends at this point?</quote> The world outside of the internet is full of heterosexual people, confident of their birth gender, who enjoy performing activities like playing football, basketball, and baseball while making jokes about people like you. Sadly, this seems to come as a shocker to many of you.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ImTheMacheteGuy 08/29/17 1:10:23 PM #126:	C7D posted... ImTheMacheteGuy posted... C7D posted... shockthemonkey posted... C7D posted... I would instantly pull my kids from the school and homeschool them. I don't want my children getting their moral standards from the school system especially when they are as nuts as this. You have people saying that truth is no longer truth because it is now inconvenient. Lying for expediency and empathy is still lying. lmao your kids are gonna be awful and worthless aren't they? My level of intelligence is greater than the typical teachers. My morals are superior to administrations who would support this. If I didn't have to be at work so often, they would already be educated at home. If you think that recognizing someone to be a gender that they aren't is acceptable, I'm afraid the joke is on you. My kids pray for their friends and invite them to church. I think they will be just fine. Thanks for your concern though. XD pray for friends and invite them to church? How do they even have friends at this point? The world outside of the internet is full of heterosexual people, confident of their birth gender, who enjoy performing activities like playing football, basketball, and baseball while making jokes about people like you. Sadly, this seems to come as a shocker to many of you. I'm heterosexual. I'm fine with my penis, testicles and scrotum. I haven't played baseball in years, but I did enjoy it. Basketball? I don't like playing defense, but I enjoy shooting. Football? Never played. I enjoy watching all of them as well as hockey, if that is relevant. What about me are such people making jokes about? Many of whom would be shocked? Please provide more context. Edit: sorry, forgot to include that said penis, testicles and scrotum are all stuff I was born with. --- Place-holder sig because new phone and old sigs not saved :/ <cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted [p:885659370] in 1st grader... [t:75707845]...</cite> <quote><cite>C7D posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>C7D posted...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote><cite>C7D posted...</cite> <quote>I would instantly pull my kids from the school and homeschool them. I don't want my children getting their moral standards from the school system especially when they are as nuts as this. You have people saying that truth is no longer truth because it is now inconvenient. Lying for expediency and empathy is still lying.</quote> lmao your kids are gonna be awful and worthless aren't they?</quote> My level of intelligence is greater than the typical teachers. My morals are superior to administrations who would support this. If I didn't have to be at work so often, they would already be educated at home. If you think that recognizing someone to be a gender that they aren't is acceptable, I'm afraid the joke is on you. My kids pray for their friends and invite them to church. I think they will be just fine. Thanks for your concern though.</quote> XD pray for friends and invite them to church? How do they even have friends at this point?</quote> The world outside of the internet is full of heterosexual people, confident of their birth gender, who enjoy performing activities like playing football, basketball, and baseball while making jokes about people like you. Sadly, this seems to come as a shocker to many of you.</quote> I'm heterosexual. I'm fine with my penis, testicles and scrotum. I haven't played baseball in years, but I did enjoy it. Basketball? I don't like playing defense, but I enjoy shooting. Football? Never played. I enjoy watching all of them as well as hockey, if that is relevant. What about me are such people making jokes about? Many of whom would be shocked? Please provide more context. Edit: sorry, forgot to include that said penis, testicles and scrotum are all stuff I was born with.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Roxborough4Ever 08/29/17 1:12:14 PM #127:	byron posted... User Since: Jul 2009 Karma: 72 Active Posts: 16 Total Badges: 7 you are desperate for people to not read the story --- You feast on red herring because it is your birthright. <cite>Roxborough4Ever posted [p:885659478] in 1st grader... [t:75707845]...</cite> <quote><cite>byron posted...</cite> <quote><quote>User Since: Jul 2009 Karma: 72 Active Posts: 16 Total Badges: 7</quote></quote> you are desperate for people to not read the story</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
C7D 08/29/17 1:17:18 PM #128:	ImTheMacheteGuy posted... C7D posted... ImTheMacheteGuy posted... C7D posted... shockthemonkey posted... C7D posted... I would instantly pull my kids from the school and homeschool them. I don't want my children getting their moral standards from the school system especially when they are as nuts as this. You have people saying that truth is no longer truth because it is now inconvenient. Lying for expediency and empathy is still lying. lmao your kids are gonna be awful and worthless aren't they? My level of intelligence is greater than the typical teachers. My morals are superior to administrations who would support this. If I didn't have to be at work so often, they would already be educated at home. If you think that recognizing someone to be a gender that they aren't is acceptable, I'm afraid the joke is on you. My kids pray for their friends and invite them to church. I think they will be just fine. Thanks for your concern though. XD pray for friends and invite them to church? How do they even have friends at this point? The world outside of the internet is full of heterosexual people, confident of their birth gender, who enjoy performing activities like playing football, basketball, and baseball while making jokes about people like you. Sadly, this seems to come as a shocker to many of you. I'm heterosexual. I'm fine with my penis, testicles and scrotum. I haven't played baseball in years, but I did enjoy it. Basketball? I don't like playing defense, but I enjoy shooting. Football? Never played. I enjoy watching all of them as well as hockey, if that is relevant. What about me are such people making jokes about? Many of whom would be shocked? Please provide more context. Edit: sorry, forgot to include that said penis, testicles and scrotum are all stuff I was born with. The jokes are made about your patronage of this agenda. Kids don't usually tell the difference between patronage and participation in their jokes. <cite>C7D posted [p:885659759] in 1st grader... [t:75707845]...</cite> <quote><cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>C7D posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>C7D posted...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote><cite>C7D posted...</cite> <quote>I would instantly pull my kids from the school and homeschool them. I don't want my children getting their moral standards from the school system especially when they are as nuts as this. You have people saying that truth is no longer truth because it is now inconvenient. Lying for expediency and empathy is still lying.</quote> lmao your kids are gonna be awful and worthless aren't they?</quote> My level of intelligence is greater than the typical teachers. My morals are superior to administrations who would support this. If I didn't have to be at work so often, they would already be educated at home. If you think that recognizing someone to be a gender that they aren't is acceptable, I'm afraid the joke is on you. My kids pray for their friends and invite them to church. I think they will be just fine. Thanks for your concern though.</quote> XD pray for friends and invite them to church? How do they even have friends at this point?</quote> The world outside of the internet is full of heterosexual people, confident of their birth gender, who enjoy performing activities like playing football, basketball, and baseball while making jokes about people like you. Sadly, this seems to come as a shocker to many of you.</quote> I'm heterosexual. I'm fine with my penis, testicles and scrotum. I haven't played baseball in years, but I did enjoy it. Basketball? I don't like playing defense, but I enjoy shooting. Football? Never played. I enjoy watching all of them as well as hockey, if that is relevant. What about me are such people making jokes about? Many of whom would be shocked? Please provide more context. Edit: sorry, forgot to include that said penis, testicles and scrotum are all stuff I was born with.</quote> The jokes are made about your patronage of this agenda. Kids don't usually tell the difference between patronage and participation in their jokes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ImTheMacheteGuy 08/29/17 1:24:15 PM #129:	C7D posted... ImTheMacheteGuy posted... C7D posted... ImTheMacheteGuy posted... C7D posted... shockthemonkey posted... C7D posted... I would instantly pull my kids from the school and homeschool them. I don't want my children getting their moral standards from the school system especially when they are as nuts as this. You have people saying that truth is no longer truth because it is now inconvenient. Lying for expediency and empathy is still lying. lmao your kids are gonna be awful and worthless aren't they? My level of intelligence is greater than the typical teachers. My morals are superior to administrations who would support this. If I didn't have to be at work so often, they would already be educated at home. If you think that recognizing someone to be a gender that they aren't is acceptable, I'm afraid the joke is on you. My kids pray for their friends and invite them to church. I think they will be just fine. Thanks for your concern though. XD pray for friends and invite them to church? How do they even have friends at this point? The world outside of the internet is full of heterosexual people, confident of their birth gender, who enjoy performing activities like playing football, basketball, and baseball while making jokes about people like you. Sadly, this seems to come as a shocker to many of you. I'm heterosexual. I'm fine with my penis, testicles and scrotum. I haven't played baseball in years, but I did enjoy it. Basketball? I don't like playing defense, but I enjoy shooting. Football? Never played. I enjoy watching all of them as well as hockey, if that is relevant. What about me are such people making jokes about? Many of whom would be shocked? Please provide more context. Edit: sorry, forgot to include that said penis, testicles and scrotum are all stuff I was born with. The jokes are made about your patronage of this agenda. Kids don't usually tell the difference between patronage and participation in their jokes. What is my position on this specific issue? --- Place-holder sig because new phone and old sigs not saved :/ <cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted [p:885660172] in 1st grader... [t:75707845]...</cite> <quote><cite>C7D posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>C7D posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>C7D posted...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote><cite>C7D posted...</cite> <quote>I would instantly pull my kids from the school and homeschool them. I don't want my children getting their moral standards from the school system especially when they are as nuts as this. You have people saying that truth is no longer truth because it is now inconvenient. Lying for expediency and empathy is still lying.</quote> lmao your kids are gonna be awful and worthless aren't they?</quote> My level of intelligence is greater than the typical teachers. My morals are superior to administrations who would support this. If I didn't have to be at work so often, they would already be educated at home. If you think that recognizing someone to be a gender that they aren't is acceptable, I'm afraid the joke is on you. My kids pray for their friends and invite them to church. I think they will be just fine. Thanks for your concern though.</quote> XD pray for friends and invite them to church? How do they even have friends at this point?</quote> The world outside of the internet is full of heterosexual people, confident of their birth gender, who enjoy performing activities like playing football, basketball, and baseball while making jokes about people like you. Sadly, this seems to come as a shocker to many of you.</quote> I'm heterosexual. I'm fine with my penis, testicles and scrotum. I haven't played baseball in years, but I did enjoy it. Basketball? I don't like playing defense, but I enjoy shooting. Football? Never played. I enjoy watching all of them as well as hockey, if that is relevant. What about me are such people making jokes about? Many of whom would be shocked? Please provide more context. Edit: sorry, forgot to include that said penis, testicles and scrotum are all stuff I was born with.</quote> The jokes are made about your patronage of this agenda. Kids don't usually tell the difference between patronage and participation in their jokes.</quote> What is my position on this specific issue?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
C7D 08/29/17 1:27:58 PM #130:	ImTheMacheteGuy posted... What is my position on this specific issue? On the basis of your calling my children terrible people because I consider the OP to be reprehensible, I can infer that you are in favor of this school's position. Deductive reasoning is a wonderful thing. <cite>C7D posted [p:885660377] in 1st grader... [t:75707845]...</cite> <quote><cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted...</cite> <quote>What is my position on this specific issue?</quote> On the basis of your calling my children terrible people because I consider the OP to be reprehensible, I can infer that you are in favor of this school's position. Deductive reasoning is a wonderful thing.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ImTheMacheteGuy 08/29/17 1:39:29 PM #131:	C7D posted... ImTheMacheteGuy posted... What is my position on this specific issue? On the basis of your calling my children terrible people because I consider the OP to be reprehensible, I can infer that you are in favor of this school's position. Deductive reasoning is a wonderful thing. I didn't call them terrible. I called them fucking ridiculous, because they pray and invite people to church. That is asinine. You are incorrect on my position, so as wonderful as reasoning may be, you are at best mediocre at it. It depends on how the girl reacted to the update on her friend. If she reacted in such a way to convey she wasn't aware and showed willingness to move forward using the new name the kid wanted to be called, the school is absolutely in the wrong. If she didn't really understand what was happening, a friendly and non-punitive conversation should have taken place with her and her parents and anyone else involved. If she had reacted negatively or in any bully-esque way, then and only then would the school have been in the right. It sounds like they blew things way the fuck out of proportion. I just don't care that much. I have absolutely no plans whatsoever to ever be in a position where "things that happen in schools" have any relevance to me whatsoever. If I did, I'd have a strong opinion as opposed to a casual one. --- Place-holder sig because new phone and old sigs not saved :/ <cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted [p:885660994] in 1st grader... [t:75707845]...</cite> <quote><cite>C7D posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted...</cite> <quote>What is my position on this specific issue?</quote> On the basis of your calling my children terrible people because I consider the OP to be reprehensible, I can infer that you are in favor of this school's position. Deductive reasoning is a wonderful thing.</quote> I didn't call them terrible. I called them fucking ridiculous, because they pray and invite people to church. That is asinine. You are incorrect on my position, so as wonderful as reasoning may be, you are at best mediocre at it. It depends on how the girl reacted to the update on her friend. If she reacted in such a way to convey she wasn't aware and showed willingness to move forward using the new name the kid wanted to be called, the school is absolutely in the wrong. If she didn't really understand what was happening, a friendly and non-punitive conversation should have taken place with her and her parents and anyone else involved. If she had reacted negatively or in any bully-esque way, then and only then would the school have been in the right. It sounds like they blew things way the fuck out of proportion. I just don't care that much. I have absolutely no plans whatsoever to ever be in a position where "things that happen in schools" have any relevance to me whatsoever. If I did, I'd have a strong opinion as opposed to a casual one.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 08/29/17 1:43:25 PM #132:	Medussa posted... darkjedilink posted... Medussa posted... darkjedilink posted... You have sourced exactly none of this. Ever. the hypocrisy is staggering. I didn't need to - you already admitted someone else did. You're the one arguing against scientific data to suggest the opposite with literally nothing to back up anything you say. You can not be serious. I never said someone else supported your bullshit. I said the exact opposite. That the posted study, in fact, destroys your claim. The fuck it did. Prove it. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:885661246] in 1st grader... [t:75707845]...</cite> <quote><cite>Medussa posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Medussa posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>You have sourced exactly none of this. Ever.</quote> the hypocrisy is staggering.</quote> I didn't need to - you already admitted someone else did. You're the one arguing against scientific data to suggest the opposite with literally nothing to back up anything you say.</quote> You can not be serious. I never said someone else supported your bullshit. I said the exact opposite. That the posted study, in fact, destroys your claim.</quote> The fuck it did. Prove it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Medussa 08/29/17 2:02:07 PM #133:	darkjedilink posted... The fuck it did. Prove it. 1) your claim is that no trans kids exist. that it is actually impossible for kids to be trans. 2) you refuse to support that claim, but accept this study, posted by another user, as support: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2697020/ 3) that study includes the clinical diagnostic used to determine when kids are trans. if kids cannot be trans, such a diagnostic tool shouldn't exist. 4) the study claims that 80-97.5% of kids who seem to be trans stop seeming so later. (I find the methodology used to reach these numbers seriously flawed, but let's assume it's the right number.) 97.5% isn't 100%. what the hell are the rest of those kids? so, for what I hope (but don't expect) to be the last time: BULLSHIT. --- Boom! That's right, this is all happening! You cannot change the channel now! Act now! Venchmen are standing by for your orders! <cite>Medussa posted [p:885662418] in 1st grader... [t:75707845]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>The fuck it did. Prove it.</quote> 1) your claim is that no trans kids exist. that it is actually impossible for kids to be trans. 2) you refuse to support that claim, but accept this study, posted by another user, as support: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2697020/ 3) that study includes the clinical diagnostic used to determine when kids are trans. if kids cannot be trans, such a diagnostic tool shouldn't exist. 4) the study claims that 80-97.5% of kids who seem to be trans stop seeming so later. (I find the methodology used to reach these numbers seriously flawed, but let's assume it's the right number.) 97.5% isn't 100%. what the hell are the rest of those kids? so, for what I hope (but don't expect) to be the last time: BULLSHIT.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 08/29/17 2:25:10 PM #134:	Medussa posted... darkjedilink posted... The fuck it did. Prove it. 1) your claim is that no trans kids exist. that it is actually impossible for kids to be trans. 2) you refuse to support that claim, but accept this study, posted by another user, as support: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2697020/ 3) that study includes the clinical diagnostic used to determine when kids are trans. if kids cannot be trans, such a diagnostic tool shouldn't exist. 4) the study claims that 80-97.5% of kids who seem to be trans stop seeming so later. (I find the methodology used to reach these numbers seriously flawed, but let's assume it's the right number.) 97.5% isn't 100%. what the hell are the rest of those kids? so, for what I hope (but don't expect) to be the last time: BULLSHIT. ITP - 'seeming so' = 'is, irrefutably so.' Again, bullshit. Again, 'less than 1 percent of kids' present with some sort of gender confusion. On top of that, a minimum of 80 percent of those grow out of it by adulthood. Your solution is to FEED this delusional behavior? --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:885663795] in 1st grader... [t:75707845]...</cite> <quote><cite>Medussa posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>The fuck it did. Prove it.</quote> 1) your claim is that no trans kids exist. that it is actually impossible for kids to be trans. 2) you refuse to support that claim, but accept this study, posted by another user, as support: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2697020/ 3) that study includes the clinical diagnostic used to determine when kids are trans. if kids cannot be trans, such a diagnostic tool shouldn't exist. 4) the study claims that 80-97.5% of kids who seem to be trans stop seeming so later. (I find the methodology used to reach these numbers seriously flawed, but let's assume it's the right number.) 97.5% isn't 100%. what the hell are the rest of those kids? so, for what I hope (but don't expect) to be the last time: BULLSHIT.</quote> ITP - 'seeming so' = 'is, irrefutably so.' Again, bullshit. Again, 'less than 1 percent of kids' present with some sort of gender confusion. On top of that, a minimum of 80 percent of those grow out of it by adulthood. Your solution is to FEED this delusional behavior?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Deadpool_18 08/29/17 2:27:49 PM #135:	eston posted... Oh no, a child was sent to the office Clearly this is the end of days There are no self-aware transgenders in 1st grade, contrary to what liberal extremists would have you believe. --- We're whalers on the moon, we carry a harpoon, but there ain't no whales, so we tell tall tales, and sing our whaling tune. <cite>Deadpool_18 posted [p:885663964] in 1st grader... [t:75707845]...</cite> <quote><cite>eston posted...</cite> <quote>Oh no, a child was sent to the office Clearly this is the end of days</quote> There are no self-aware transgenders in 1st grade, contrary to what liberal extremists would have you believe.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Medussa 08/29/17 2:27:54 PM #136:	by your own defense, there are kids who don't desist. how are they not trans? --- Boom! That's right, this is all happening! You cannot change the channel now! Act now! Venchmen are standing by for your orders! <cite>Medussa posted [p:885663974] in 1st grader... [t:75707845]...</cite> <quote>by your own defense, there are kids who don't desist. how are they not trans?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 08/29/17 2:34:05 PM #137:	Medussa posted... by your own defense, there are kids who don't desist. how are they not trans? Can you predict which ones won't desist before adulthood? No? Then stop feeding a child's delusion. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:885664345] in 1st grader... [t:75707845]...</cite> <quote><cite>Medussa posted...</cite> <quote>by your own defense, there are kids who don't desist. how are they not trans?</quote> Can you predict which ones won't desist before adulthood? No? Then stop feeding a child's delusion.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DocileOrangeCup 08/29/17 2:40:18 PM #138:	SpiralDrift posted... This is wrong on so many levels. --- https://i.imgtc.com/usDFlRA.jpg https://i.imgtc.com/GSrk8Nh.jpg https://i.imgtc.com/yo9VSX9.jpg https://i.imgtc.com/BnnNepT.jpg https://tinyurl.com/Cornboard <cite>DocileOrangeCup posted [p:885664685] in 1st grader... [t:75707845]...</cite> <quote><cite>SpiralDrift posted...</cite> <quote>This is wrong on so many levels.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JohnLennon6 08/29/17 2:42:41 PM #139:	darkjedilink posted... Medussa posted... by your own defense, there are kids who don't desist. how are they not trans? Can you predict which ones won't desist before adulthood? No? Then stop feeding a child's delusion. Are you also this adamant against taking children to church? --- Blue Lives Matter <cite>JohnLennon6 posted [p:885664819] in 1st grader... [t:75707845]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Medussa posted...</cite> <quote>by your own defense, there are kids who don't desist. how are they not trans?</quote> Can you predict which ones won't desist before adulthood? No? Then stop feeding a child's delusion.</quote> Are you also this adamant against taking children to church?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 08/29/17 2:45:20 PM #140:	JohnLennon6 posted... darkjedilink posted... Medussa posted... by your own defense, there are kids who don't desist. how are they not trans? Can you predict which ones won't desist before adulthood? No? Then stop feeding a child's delusion. Are you also this adamant against taking children to church? Oh come on, man. You can become an athiest or change religion after growing up under one religion. There's no way to undo cutting your dick off. They're not equivalent at all. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:885664968] in 1st grader... [t:75707845]...</cite> <quote><cite>JohnLennon6 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Medussa posted...</cite> <quote>by your own defense, there are kids who don't desist. how are they not trans?</quote> Can you predict which ones won't desist before adulthood? No? Then stop feeding a child's delusion.</quote> Are you also this adamant against taking children to church?</quote> Oh come on, man. You can become an athiest or change religion after growing up under one religion. There's no way to undo cutting your dick off. They're not equivalent at all.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ImTheMacheteGuy 08/29/17 2:46:16 PM #141:	JohnLennon6 posted... darkjedilink posted... Medussa posted... by your own defense, there are kids who don't desist. how are they not trans? Can you predict which ones won't desist before adulthood? No? Then stop feeding a child's delusion. Are you also this adamant against taking children to church? I should certainly hope so. --- Place-holder sig because new phone and old sigs not saved :/ <cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted [p:885665023] in 1st grader... [t:75707845]...</cite> <quote><cite>JohnLennon6 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Medussa posted...</cite> <quote>by your own defense, there are kids who don't desist. how are they not trans?</quote> Can you predict which ones won't desist before adulthood? No? Then stop feeding a child's delusion.</quote> Are you also this adamant against taking children to church?</quote> I should certainly hope so.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 08/29/17 2:46:41 PM #142:	JohnLennon6 posted... darkjedilink posted... Medussa posted... by your own defense, there are kids who don't desist. how are they not trans? Can you predict which ones won't desist before adulthood? No? Then stop feeding a child's delusion. Are you also this adamant against taking children to church? I have no problem with children going to church if they choose. I DO have a problem with the idea that society will label me as the bad guy for not following along with that child's delusion. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:885665048] in 1st grader... [t:75707845]...</cite> <quote><cite>JohnLennon6 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Medussa posted...</cite> <quote>by your own defense, there are kids who don't desist. how are they not trans?</quote> Can you predict which ones won't desist before adulthood? No? Then stop feeding a child's delusion.</quote> Are you also this adamant against taking children to church?</quote> I have no problem with children going to church if they choose. I DO have a problem with the idea that society will label me as the bad guy for not following along with that child's delusion.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Medussa 08/29/17 2:59:06 PM #143:	there is no delusion. trans people, including kids, know who they are. --- Boom! That's right, this is all happening! You cannot change the channel now! Act now! Venchmen are standing by for your orders! <cite>Medussa posted [p:885665766] in 1st grader... [t:75707845]...</cite> <quote>there is no delusion. trans people, including kids, know who they are.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Deadpool_18 08/29/17 3:36:09 PM #144:	At what point do I have to be more than simply polite in entertaining your interpretation of yourself? I'm fine with people doing what makes them happy, but I'm not about to feel guilty for calling a person as I see them by their outward appearance. At least in the first couple of interactions. I honestly can't be bothered with such trivial issues. --- We're whalers on the moon, we carry a harpoon, but there ain't no whales, so we tell tall tales, and sing our whaling tune. <cite>Deadpool_18 posted [p:885667735] in 1st grader... [t:75707845]...</cite> <quote>At what point do I have to be more than simply polite in entertaining your interpretation of yourself? I'm fine with people doing what makes them happy, but I'm not about to feel guilty for calling a person as I see them by their outward appearance. At least in the first couple of interactions. I honestly can't be bothered with such trivial issues.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ImTheMacheteGuy 08/29/17 3:54:42 PM #145:	Deadpool_18 posted... At what point do I have to be more than simply polite in entertaining your interpretation of yourself? I'm fine with people doing what makes them happy, but I'm not about to feel guilty for calling a person as I see them by their outward appearance. At least in the first couple of interactions. I honestly can't be bothered with such trivial issues. Yeah, I agree. If someone politely corrects me, that's fine and I will respect it. If someone gets all fucking bent out of shape and is all "how dare u call me that how dare you not automatically know what I like to be called!" Well, then I one-up them at overreacting. --- Place-holder sig because new phone and old sigs not saved :/ <cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted [p:885668837] in 1st grader... [t:75707845]...</cite> <quote><cite>Deadpool_18 posted...</cite> <quote>At what point do I have to be more than simply polite in entertaining your interpretation of yourself? I'm fine with people doing what makes them happy, but I'm not about to feel guilty for calling a person as I see them by their outward appearance. At least in the first couple of interactions. I honestly can't be bothered with such trivial issues.</quote> Yeah, I agree. If someone politely corrects me, that's fine and I will respect it. If someone gets all fucking bent out of shape and is all "how dare u call me that how dare you not automatically know what I like to be called!" Well, then I one-up them at overreacting.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 08/29/17 5:07:45 PM #146:	Medussa posted... there is no delusion. trans people, including kids, know who they are. How can you say that, when at least 4 in 5, and some estimates say almost 98% grow out of it? That suggests that they likely aren't trans. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:885672921] in 1st grader... [t:75707845]...</cite> <quote><cite>Medussa posted...</cite> <quote>there is no delusion. trans people, including kids, know who they are.</quote> How can you say that, when at least 4 in 5, and some estimates say almost 98% grow out of it? That suggests that they likely aren't trans.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 08/29/17 5:23:16 PM #147:	Medussa posted... there is no delusion. trans people, including kids, know who they are. Except for the 98% that think they know who they are and then grow out of it. Imagine if we started advocating for immediate hormone therapy at that age because it "helps transition." You'd be fucking over 98% of the kids that grow out of it because you want that 2% to have it slightly easier. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:885673779] in 1st grader... [t:75707845]...</cite> <quote><cite>Medussa posted...</cite> <quote>there is no delusion. trans people, including kids, know who they are.</quote> Except for the 98% that think they know who they are and then grow out of it. Imagine if we started advocating for immediate hormone therapy at that age because it "helps transition." You'd be fucking over 98% of the kids that grow out of it because you want that 2% to have it slightly easier.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kisai 08/29/17 5:27:17 PM #148:	Did this actually happen? Because last I heard, there weren't any sources or anything like that. --- WHO MODS THE MODERATORS? <cite>Kisai posted [p:885674011] in 1st grader... [t:75707845]...</cite> <quote>Did this actually happen? Because last I heard, there weren't any sources or anything like that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Medussa 08/29/17 5:43:17 PM #149:	darkjedilink posted... Medussa posted... there is no delusion. trans people, including kids, know who they are. How can you say that, when at least 4 in 5, and some estimates say almost 98% grow out of it? That suggests that they likely aren't trans. that goes back to my issues with the methodology. they aren't just counting kids who say they're trans. they're also counting any kid who shows any gender non-conforming behavior. those kids were never trans in the first place, and are only being counted in order to dupe people like you into thinking the actual trans kids should get the help and respect they deserve. the kids who do say they are trans at 4, and still do at 5, and still do at 6 don't stop saying they are at 13, or 18. and the ultimate issue is, there is no harm is believing the kids who say they are trans. nothing at that age is permanent. the only risk is a few embarrassing memories. but none of that is relevant to this point. stop calling trans people delusional. that word has a meaning, and it simply doesn't apply to us. we are fully, painfully, aware of our situations. --- Boom! That's right, this is all happening! You cannot change the channel now! Act now! Venchmen are standing by for your orders! <cite>Medussa posted [p:885674851] in 1st grader... [t:75707845]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Medussa posted...</cite> <quote>there is no delusion. trans people, including kids, know who they are.</quote> How can you say that, when at least 4 in 5, and some estimates say almost 98% grow out of it? That suggests that they likely aren't trans.</quote> that goes back to my issues with the methodology. they aren't just counting kids who say they're trans. they're also counting any kid who shows any gender non-conforming behavior. those kids were never trans in the first place, and are only being counted in order to dupe people like you into thinking the actual trans kids should get the help and respect they deserve. the kids who do say they are trans at 4, and still do at 5, and still do at 6 don't stop saying they are at 13, or 18. and the ultimate issue is, there is no harm is believing the kids who say they are trans. nothing at that age is permanent. the only risk is a few embarrassing memories. but none of that is relevant to this point. stop calling trans people delusional. that word has a meaning, and it simply doesn't apply to us. we are fully, painfully, aware of our situations.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Medussa 08/29/17 5:44:31 PM #150:	s0nicfan posted... Medussa posted... there is no delusion. trans people, including kids, know who they are. Except for the 98% that think they know who they are and then grow out of it. Imagine if we started advocating for immediate hormone therapy at that age because it "helps transition." You'd be fucking over 98% of the kids that grow out of it because you want that 2% to have it slightly easier. imagine we fuck with the kids' brains to make them conform to their sex because "that's who they really are" imagine if we stopped using slippery slope arguments. --- Boom! That's right, this is all happening! You cannot change the channel now! Act now! Venchmen are standing by for your orders! <cite>Medussa posted [p:885674927] in 1st grader... [t:75707845]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Medussa posted...</cite> <quote>there is no delusion. trans people, including kids, know who they are.</quote> Except for the 98% that think they know who they are and then grow out of it. Imagine if we started advocating for immediate hormone therapy at that age because it "helps transition." You'd be fucking over 98% of the kids that grow out of it because you want that 2% to have it slightly easier.</quote> imagine we fuck with the kids' brains to make them conform to their sex because "that's who they really are" imagine if we stopped using slippery slope arguments.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 08/29/17 5:46:36 PM #151:	Medussa posted... s0nicfan posted... Medussa posted... there is no delusion. trans people, including kids, know who they are. Except for the 98% that think they know who they are and then grow out of it. Imagine if we started advocating for immediate hormone therapy at that age because it "helps transition." You'd be fucking over 98% of the kids that grow out of it because you want that 2% to have it slightly easier. imagine we fuck with the kids' brains to make them conform to their sex because "that's who they really are" imagine if we stopped using slippery slope arguments. What? There's no slippery slope. If 98% of kids that associate with being trans grow out of it, then ANYTHING done to kids before that "grow out" period has an extremely high chance of doing damage at a significantly higher rate than it helps the kids who don't grow out of it. There's no slope at all. I'm talking directly to the statistic. EDIT: But hypothetically let's talk to your point, too. In this imaginary world we either treat every kid that claims to be trans as soon as possible, or we "make them conform to their sex" as you say. In this scenario, treating them has a 98% false positive rate. In your scenario, "fixing" them has a 2% false positive rate. Anyone that's not completely insane would choose the former because it does far, FAR less harm. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:885675042] in 1st grader... [t:75707845]...</cite> <quote><cite>Medussa posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Medussa posted...</cite> <quote>there is no delusion. trans people, including kids, know who they are.</quote> Except for the 98% that think they know who they are and then grow out of it. Imagine if we started advocating for immediate hormone therapy at that age because it "helps transition." You'd be fucking over 98% of the kids that grow out of it because you want that 2% to have it slightly easier.</quote> imagine we fuck with the kids' brains to make them conform to their sex because "that's who they really are" imagine if we stopped using slippery slope arguments.</quote> What? There's no slippery slope. If 98% of kids that associate with being trans grow out of it, then ANYTHING done to kids before that "grow out" period has an extremely high chance of doing damage at a significantly higher rate than it helps the kids who don't grow out of it. There's no slope at all. I'm talking directly to the statistic. EDIT: But hypothetically let's talk to your point, too. In this imaginary world we either treat every kid that claims to be trans as soon as possible, or we "make them conform to their sex" as you say. In this scenario, treating them has a 98% false positive rate. In your scenario, "fixing" them has a 2% false positive rate. Anyone that's not completely insane would choose the former because it does far, FAR less harm.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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