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WastelandCowboy 08/28/17 6:37:42 PM #1: |
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/08/27/trump-expected-lift-ban-military-gear-local-police-forces/606065001/
WASHINGTON — The Trump administration Monday lifted a controversial ban on the transfer of some surplus military equipment to police departments whose battlefield-style response to rioting in a St. Louis suburb three years ago prompted a halt to the program. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WastelandCowboy 08/28/17 6:38:24 PM #2: |
Nelson said the timing of the president's decision, against the backdrop of unrest in Charlottesville, Va., "reflects this administrations now open effort to escalate racial tensions in our country.'' ... Copied to Clipboard!
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faramir77 08/28/17 6:43:54 PM #3: |
Military equipment should be limited exclusively to SWAT teams, which should only be deployed in extreme cases involving an immediate and eminent threat of a loss of a life.
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Doctor Foxx 08/28/17 6:59:00 PM #4: |
Ooh yay militarized law enforcement that's totally a safe and sensible idea
Think they could also get some working body cameras to go with the big guns --- Never write off the Doctor! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PaddysPub 08/28/17 6:59:53 PM #5: |
remember when people thought obama was ushering in a 'militarized police state'
lol --- Well, they say the world's your oyster, Man, but oysters ain't for me ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheWorstPoster 08/28/17 7:05:18 PM #6: |
This totally has nothing to do with Antifa riots going on, nope
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KevinceKostner 08/28/17 7:07:20 PM #7: |
Remember Jade Helm guys, this is it Walmart FEMA death camps!
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Duck-I-Says 08/28/17 7:08:03 PM #8: |
Trump is like the George Costanza of presidents. If he just did the exact opposite of his impulses he'd be one of the best presidents ever.
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shadowsword87 08/28/17 7:08:50 PM #9: |
America!
Aaaaaamerica! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PaddysPub 08/28/17 7:10:23 PM #10: |
TheWorstPoster posted...
This totally has nothing to do with Antifa riots going on, nope let's shoot grenade launchers at them yeah --- Well, they say the world's your oyster, Man, but oysters ain't for me ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FourthDimension 08/28/17 7:11:43 PM #11: |
PaddysPub posted...
TheWorstPoster posted...This totally has nothing to do with Antifa riots going on, nope Icoyar is 100% on board with that ... Copied to Clipboard!
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dainkinkaide 08/28/17 7:12:02 PM #12: |
TheWorstPoster posted...
This totally has nothing to do with Antifa riots going on, nope Yeah, let's militarize the police to deal with those people who are violently against encroaching fascism. That'll show 'em. --- Hank Pym changes superhero aliases more often than Hawkman changes origin stories. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheWorstPoster 08/28/17 7:13:25 PM #13: |
dainkinkaide posted...
Yeah, let's militarize the police to deal with those people who are violently against encroaching fascism. That'll show 'em. The only fascism in this country going on are by those claiming to be anti-fascists. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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dainkinkaide 08/28/17 7:18:38 PM #15: |
TheWorstPoster posted...
dainkinkaide posted...Yeah, let's militarize the police to deal with those people who are violently against encroaching fascism. That'll show 'em. Ah, the good ol' scio quid tu es, sed quid sum defense. --- Hank Pym changes superhero aliases more often than Hawkman changes origin stories. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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streamofthesky 08/28/17 7:19:47 PM #16: |
Yay, let's give armored vehicles, grenade launchers, and more to a bunch of soldier wannabes who've had none of the training or discipline to use them appropriately, so they can fuck up some enemy combatants....I mean....serve and protect their fellow neighbors and citizens. Yeah!
*light bulb clicks on* And now it's time for "Good Idea, Bad Idea." Good Idea: faramir77 posted... Military equipment should be limited exclusively to SWAT teams, which should only be deployed in extreme cases involving an immediate and eminent threat of a loss of a life. Bad Idea: "Hey, what if instead of just SWAT Teams, we gave this military hardware to anyone in the force? And while we're at it, why only use SWAT Teams for extreme cases when they could like...roll up on the house of a non-violent drug user to serve a no-knock warrant?" "Yeah, that'd be soooooo awesome! What could possibly go wrong? You know, aside from the times we go to the wrong address or the drug-addicted informant gives us the wrong address?" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mead 08/28/17 7:19:52 PM #17: |
Like so many other decisions that come from the white house this is about making more $$$ for defense contractors and not much else
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Veedrock- 08/28/17 7:30:55 PM #19: |
I live in a world where people think police are the bad guys.
Literally letting the media play you. And proud of it no doubt. --- My friends call me Vee. I'm not your friend, buddy. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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EightySeven 08/28/17 7:32:24 PM #20: |
dainkinkaide posted...
Ah, the good ol' scio quid tu es, sed quid sum defense. ENGLISH ONLY USA ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PieforcePiedom 08/28/17 7:32:29 PM #21: |
PyroBlade1985 posted...
dainkinkaide posted...TheWorstPoster posted...dainkinkaide posted...Yeah, let's militarize the police to deal with those people who are violently against encroaching fascism. That'll show 'em. Zero. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rottenmonk 08/28/17 7:33:00 PM #22: |
Trump is easily the most incompetent president to ever sit in the White House.
What a miserable failure. I can't wait until he's impeached. --- Everytime I read rottenmonk's posts, and think about future offsprings, I weep for the humanity. -FranckKnight ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Action53 08/28/17 7:36:59 PM #23: |
This is going to be a great topic
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Smarkil 08/28/17 8:14:59 PM #24: |
I'm pro-cop but I really really hate the militarization of police.
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Roy_Turkey 08/28/17 8:23:43 PM #25: |
Action53 posted...
This is going to be a great topic --- Wanna know what Uranium smells like?... You not need travel very far.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzbvTvlErE0 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jen0125 08/28/17 8:28:52 PM #26: |
Oh good just what they need.
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TheCyborgNinja 08/28/17 8:44:47 PM #27: |
Good. They'll need it to suppress the growing dickhead movement known as Antifa. I hope they knock 'em down like the PRC would.
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Mead 08/28/17 8:56:38 PM #29: |
TheCyborgNinja posted...
Good. They'll need it to suppress the growing dickhead movement known as Antifa. I hope they knock 'em down like the PRC would. When they're done with that I'm sure they'll relinquish all their military weaponry and never use it against other groups --- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mead "I'm Mary Poppins ya'll!" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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streamofthesky 08/28/17 8:59:01 PM #30: |
Republicans claim they don't want the government to have too much power, then actively cheerlead for police to beat up American citizens.
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Cacciato 08/28/17 8:59:19 PM #31: |
streamofthesky posted...
Yay, let's give armored vehicles, grenade launchers, and more to a bunch of soldier wannabes who've had none of the training or discipline to use them appropriately, I mean, they don't really require that much training to use. That's the whole reason the military can use them. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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streamofthesky 08/28/17 9:01:26 PM #32: |
Cacciato posted...
streamofthesky posted...Yay, let's give armored vehicles, grenade launchers, and more to a bunch of soldier wannabes who've had none of the training or discipline to use them appropriately, Leaving aside the insult to people in the military, the training to "use" said weapons isn't just for how they function. It's also rules of engagement, appropriate use of force, etc... But police don't concern themselves with that crap anyway, so I guess it doesn't matter. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Veedrock- 08/28/17 9:08:53 PM #33: |
streamofthesky posted...
Republicans claim they don't want the government to have too much power, then actively cheerlead for police to beat up American citizens. Federal government vs local government. But you knew that didn't you. --- My friends call me Vee. I'm not your friend, buddy. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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streamofthesky 08/28/17 9:16:04 PM #34: |
Veedrock- posted...
streamofthesky posted...Republicans claim they don't want the government to have too much power, then actively cheerlead for police to beat up American citizens. So you're cool with it as long as it's the state police force instead of a federal agency, then? So if your state passed laws to ban guns and confiscate them from citizens, you'd be ok with that as well since it's local government violating your rights. Correct? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Darth Rustito 08/28/17 9:16:09 PM #35: |
As long as we have crap going on in this country like the crazy monthly active shooter situations, you can give them Brotherhood of Steel armor for all I care. We don't need any more FUBAR moments like the north Hollywood shootout, where the LAPD literally had to go shake down a gun store to get weaponry necessary to take down two jackasses in body armor.
People wig out about the police being too militarized, but in certain circumstances they're going to need to be. They're the cops. When **** is hitting the fan, they don't mess around, and they're going to use whatever force necessary to put a stop to a threat. --- My world is fire and blood. Once, I was a cop, a road warrior searching for a righteous cause. It was hard to know who was more crazy--me, or everyone else. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Cacciato 08/28/17 9:36:47 PM #36: |
streamofthesky posted...
Cacciato posted...streamofthesky posted...Yay, let's give armored vehicles, grenade launchers, and more to a bunch of soldier wannabes who've had none of the training or discipline to use them appropriately, I was in the army for five years. Shit literally has to be easy to use so that way the stupidest person can use it, as bad it sounds. As far as the ROE goes I'll agree with you on that. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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helIy 08/28/17 9:43:16 PM #37: |
why did he mention Houston as a reason for this
it's not like them getting a tank is going to retroactively help them fight a hurricane --- depressed again morning comes too fast and i'm tired of the routine ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mead 08/28/17 9:44:31 PM #38: |
helIy posted...
why did he mention Houston as a reason for this To make it seem necessary --- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mead "I'm Mary Poppins ya'll!" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PieforcePiedom 08/28/17 10:34:28 PM #39: |
PyroBlade1985 posted...
PieforcePiedom posted...PyroBlade1985 posted...dainkinkaide posted...TheWorstPoster posted...dainkinkaide posted...Yeah, let's militarize the police to deal with those people who are violently against encroaching fascism. That'll show 'em. Stop watching Alex Jones. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zareth 08/28/17 10:35:26 PM #40: |
faramir77 posted...
Military equipment should be limited exclusively to SWAT teams, which should only be deployed in extreme cases involving an immediate and eminent threat of a loss of a life. Yeah, that's not how SWAT works. They put my high school on lock down and sent in 2 SWAT teams because there were rumors that some kid had a knife. --- It's okay, I have no idea who I am either. http://i.imgur.com/WOo6wcq.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GreenGoblinOck 08/28/17 10:49:15 PM #41: |
Veedrock- posted...
I live in a world where people think police are the bad guys. Amen to this post! I'm sick of this bullcrap that all cops are bad! It's stupid! --- "A lot of good people have slept with prostitutes." Jen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mead 08/28/17 10:52:22 PM #42: |
GreenGoblinOck posted...
Veedrock- posted...I live in a world where people think police are the bad guys. Some cops are bad. You think they are just gonna give military grade equipment and weapons to the Boy Scouts? --- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mead "I'm Mary Poppins ya'll!" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Veedrock- 08/28/17 11:12:32 PM #43: |
streamofthesky posted...
So you're cool with it as long as it's the state police force instead of a federal agency, then? Strawman much? What are you even on about dude. --- My friends call me Vee. I'm not your friend, buddy. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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XlaxJynx007 08/28/17 11:18:33 PM #44: |
Smarkil posted...
I'm pro-cop but I really really hate the militarization of police. Yep, I think the militarization has been one of the biggest causes of police mistrust over the past 15 or so years. It doesn't raise people's trust when the guy pulling them over looks and tries to act like a commando. --- XB1: MrMegaNutz PS4: DrMegaNutz ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zeus 08/28/17 11:27:11 PM #45: |
Ordinarily I'd be against it. However, with BLM and Antifa threatening to turn any given city into a warzone, unfortunately it's become a necessity. When Obama stopped the program *after* Ferguson of all things, it was one of the stupidest decisions in his incredibly terrible presidency.
Doctor Foxx posted... Ooh yay militarized law enforcement that's totally a safe and sensible idea After shit like Ferguson, ALL police departments should be armed with riot gear. dainkinkaide posted... TheWorstPoster posted...This totally has nothing to do with Antifa riots going on, nope You mean the violently fascistic protestors. If Antifa wanted to protest fascism, they'd protest themselves. streamofthesky posted... Yay, let's give armored vehicles, grenade launchers, and more to a bunch of soldier wannabes who've had none of the training or discipline to use them appropriately, so they can fuck up some enemy combatants....I mean....serve and protect their fellow neighbors and citizens. Yeah! The grenade launchers aren't going to shoot actual grenades and armored vehicles are literally the least problematic items being given out. Mead posted... Like so many other decisions that come from the white house this is about making more $$$ for defense contractors and not much else Which is my only criticism. We shouldn't *have* a large enough surplus to just hand stuff out. --- (\/)(\/)|-| In Zeus We Trust: All Others Pay Cash ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GreenGoblinOck 08/28/17 11:43:29 PM #46: |
Mead posted...
GreenGoblinOck posted...Veedrock- posted...I live in a world where people think police are the bad guys. No but just because some cops are bad does not mean that military equipment shouldn't be given to cops in extreme situations. I'm not going to argue with you! There needs to be a board just for conservatives on this site! --- "A lot of good people have slept with prostitutes." Jen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mead 08/28/17 11:44:19 PM #47: |
GreenGoblinOck posted...
Mead posted...GreenGoblinOck posted...Veedrock- posted...I live in a world where people think police are the bad guys. Good luck on finding your safe space --- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mead "I'm Mary Poppins ya'll!" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Roy_Turkey 08/28/17 11:45:44 PM #48: |
Several Ideas...
1. If they bring back the T.V. Show COPS, it will surely rock! 2. Prank calling Police now, will be more fun that EVER! 3. Remember that Scene in Idiocracy, where Rico's car gets attacked? (the guy with the backwards pointed R.P.G. was the icing)? Well thats gonna be fun as fuck to watch. 4. Calling the Cops. Lawyers won't have as many clients, because they will most likely be dead from a shot to the face with a MK 19. This will make a lot of Lawyers angry, and Harvard School of Law won't be getting as many students to follow the trade. 5. Anybody? Please Continue... =D --- Wanna know what Uranium smells like?... You not need travel very far.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzbvTvlErE0 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zeus 08/28/17 11:45:51 PM #49: |
Mead posted...
GreenGoblinOck posted...Mead posted...GreenGoblinOck posted...Veedrock- posted...I live in a world where people think police are the bad guys. It's probably behind the cops in their armored vehicles, which will thankfully separate him and the rest of civilized society from the violent thugs trying to burn cities to the ground. --- (\/)(\/)|-| In Zeus We Trust: All Others Pay Cash ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zeus 08/28/17 11:48:00 PM #50: |
Roy_Turkey posted...
4. Calling the Cops. Lawyers won't have as many clients, because they will most likely be dead from MKs aren't being handed out and, even if they were, they wouldn't just be given to patrolmen. --- (\/)(\/)|-| In Zeus We Trust: All Others Pay Cash ... Copied to Clipboard!
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