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LotrMorgoth 08/30/17 3:35:39 PM #1:	another instance of this is for sure depressing to still see; however at least this baker actively worked with the couple to help them find a new place to go as a gay person i wouldn't support this bakery going forward, but i also think this is a fair out for the company and they shouldn't face any punishment --- "You will not be happy if you continue to search for what happiness consists of. You will never live if you are looking for the meaning of life"-Camus <cite>LotrMorgoth posted [p:885729550] in bakery in ... [t:75724370]...</cite> <quote>another instance of this is for sure depressing to still see; however at least this baker actively worked with the couple to help them find a new place to go as a gay person i wouldn't support this bakery going forward, but i also think this is a fair out for the company and they shouldn't face any punishment</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheVipaGTS 08/30/17 3:39:53 PM #3:	fenderbender321 posted... LotrMorgoth posted... i also think this is a fair out for the company and they shouldn't face any punishment Careful...if you don't actively support hundreds of thousands of dollars in fines, CE will label you a bigot. walks into topic hey guys, so...OUCH cuts arm open on edge from post #2 <cite>TheVipaGTS posted [p:885729784] in bakery in ... [t:75724370]...</cite> <quote><cite>fenderbender321 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LotrMorgoth posted...</cite> <quote>i also think this is a fair out for the company and they shouldn't face any punishment</quote> Careful...if you don't actively support hundreds of thousands of dollars in fines, CE will label you a bigot.</quote> walks into topic hey guys, so...OUCH cuts arm open on edge from post #2</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
eston 08/30/17 3:40:38 PM #4:	Link? --- http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i215/estonc/grizzly_bear_chairs_2.jpg http://i.imgur.com/8kjZU.jpg <cite>eston posted [p:885729828] in bakery in ... [t:75724370]...</cite> <quote>Link?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
A_Good_Boy 08/30/17 3:41:54 PM #5:	fenderbender321 posted... LotrMorgoth posted... i also think this is a fair out for the company and they shouldn't face any punishment Careful...if you don't actively support hundreds of thousands of dollars in fines, CE will label you a bigot. Harassment and refusal to pay court fees tends to do that. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.2.2 <cite>A_Good_Boy posted [p:885729904] in bakery in ... [t:75724370]...</cite> <quote><cite>fenderbender321 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LotrMorgoth posted...</cite> <quote> i also think this is a fair out for the company and they shouldn't face any punishment</quote> Careful...if you don't actively support hundreds of thousands of dollars in fines, CE will label you a bigot.</quote> Harassment and refusal to pay court fees tends to do that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NINExATExSEVEN 08/30/17 3:44:22 PM #6:	So a bakery can't refuse service to a gay couple without legal action against them, but neo monopolies like Google and YouTube can refuse and hinder millions of people who share a different opinion and thats somehow okay and doesn't deserve legal action. Wtf? --- Listen to my story... This... May be our last chance... Dubstep song of the week http://youtu.be/MmVHWPdI5d0 <cite>NINExATExSEVEN posted [p:885730042] in bakery in ... [t:75724370]...</cite> <quote>So a bakery can't refuse service to a gay couple without legal action against them, but neo monopolies like Google and YouTube can refuse and hinder millions of people who share a different opinion and thats somehow okay and doesn't deserve legal action. Wtf?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
A_Good_Boy 08/30/17 3:46:39 PM #7:	I'm sensing an awful lot of white supremacist butthurt for some reason now that their favorite sites are getting shut down. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.2.2 <cite>A_Good_Boy posted [p:885730172] in bakery in ... [t:75724370]...</cite> <quote>I'm sensing an awful lot of white supremacist butthurt for some reason now that their favorite sites are getting shut down.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LotrMorgoth 08/30/17 3:50:51 PM #8:	here's one link though it's very much pro-LGBT so it's slanted that way. . . will try to find one from the other side to balance it out http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/california-bakery-gay-wedding-cake_us_59a5ad31e4b084581a13adcd?section=us_queer-voices added this: http://www.foxnews.com/food-drink/2017/08/30/california-bakery-facing-backlash-after-refusing-to-make-wedding-cakes-for-same-sex-couples.html --- "You will not be happy if you continue to search for what happiness consists of. You will never live if you are looking for the meaning of life"-Camus <cite>LotrMorgoth posted [p:885730419] in bakery in ... [t:75724370]...</cite> <quote>here's one link though it's very much pro-LGBT so it's slanted that way. . . will try to find one from the other side to balance it out http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/california-bakery-gay-wedding-cake_us_59a5ad31e4b084581a13adcd?section=us_queer-voices added this: http://www.foxnews.com/food-drink/2017/08/30/california-bakery-facing-backlash-after-refusing-to-make-wedding-cakes-for-same-sex-couples.html</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheVipaGTS 08/30/17 3:51:36 PM #9:	. I also have no idea why Bakers make such a big deal about this. Christians also own party supply stores, dress shops, tuxedo shops, etc, etc, etc...Christian owned businesses have been contributing to Gay weddings since Gay weddings have been a thing. But for some really odd reason they've apparently decided to put their foot down when it comes to the cake..(well not all of them, but the majority of this seems to come from Bakeries)... Imagine walking into an Asian owned bakery and having them say "...wait, you're asian...and you're marrying a white man? sorry i won't contribute to this...our culture is very strict on not mixing..."...that shit wouldn't be ok...why do people defend this? <cite>TheVipaGTS posted [p:885730454] in bakery in ... [t:75724370]...</cite> <quote>. I also have no idea why Bakers make such a big deal about this. Christians also own party supply stores, dress shops, tuxedo shops, etc, etc, etc...Christian owned businesses have been contributing to Gay weddings since Gay weddings have been a thing. But for some really odd reason they've apparently decided to put their foot down when it comes to the cake..(well not all of them, but the majority of this seems to come from Bakeries)... Imagine walking into an Asian owned bakery and having them say "...wait, you're asian...and you're marrying a white man? sorry i won't contribute to this...our culture is very strict on not mixing..."...that shit wouldn't be ok...why do people defend this?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 08/30/17 3:52:28 PM #10:	Let the market work it out. If people disagree with that bakery's views, they will go out of business. If people don't really care, they'll continue. There's zero reason for government to get involved in cases like these. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:885730519] in bakery in ... [t:75724370]...</cite> <quote>Let the market work it out. If people disagree with that bakery's views, they will go out of business. If people don't really care, they'll continue. There's zero reason for government to get involved in cases like these.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DoomSwell 08/30/17 3:54:07 PM #11:	LotrMorgoth posted... at least this baker actively worked with the couple to help them find a new place to go If you're going to help why don't you just serve them yourself? --- http://www.backloggery.com/doomswell <cite>DoomSwell posted [p:885730606] in bakery in ... [t:75724370]...</cite> <quote><cite>LotrMorgoth posted...</cite> <quote>at least this baker actively worked with the couple to help them find a new place to go</quote> If you're going to help why don't you just serve them yourself?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
eston 08/30/17 3:55:00 PM #12:	NINExATExSEVEN posted... So a bakery can't refuse service to a gay couple without legal action against them, but neo monopolies like Google and YouTube can refuse and hinder millions of people who share a different opinion and thats somehow okay and doesn't deserve legal action. Wtf? Holy false equivalency Batman --- http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i215/estonc/grizzly_bear_chairs_2.jpg http://i.imgur.com/8kjZU.jpg <cite>eston posted [p:885730653] in bakery in ... [t:75724370]...</cite> <quote><cite>NINExATExSEVEN posted...</cite> <quote>So a bakery can't refuse service to a gay couple without legal action against them, but neo monopolies like Google and YouTube can refuse and hinder millions of people who share a different opinion and thats somehow okay and doesn't deserve legal action. Wtf?</quote> Holy false equivalency Batman</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OrtegaTron 08/30/17 3:58:57 PM #13:	(Draws Ringil against TC) --- OrtegaTron knelt before his fallen enemy and said a prayer. "Forgive me. May you find in the next world what you couldn't find here."- AlisLandale <cite>OrtegaTron posted [p:885730862] in bakery in ... [t:75724370]...</cite> <quote>(Draws Ringil against TC)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LotrMorgoth 08/30/17 4:01:51 PM #14:	OrtegaTron posted... (Draws Ringil against TC) you know how this ends for you. . . --- "You will not be happy if you continue to search for what happiness consists of. You will never live if you are looking for the meaning of life"-Camus <cite>LotrMorgoth posted [p:885731028] in bakery in ... [t:75724370]...</cite> <quote><cite>OrtegaTron posted...</cite> <quote>(Draws Ringil against TC)</quote> you know how this ends for you. . .</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
lowtides 08/30/17 4:02:21 PM #15:	It's ridiculous. As a gay man myself all I want is to be treated as an equal. Why should I be denied service just because I like men? This is repulsive and I don't get how anyone can defend something like this. <cite>lowtides posted [p:885731066] in bakery in ... [t:75724370]...</cite> <quote>It's ridiculous. As a gay man myself all I want is to be treated as an equal. Why should I be denied service just because I like men? This is repulsive and I don't get how anyone can defend something like this.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OrtegaTron 08/30/17 4:02:21 PM #16:	LotrMorgoth posted... OrtegaTron posted... (Draws Ringil against TC) you know how this ends for you. . . Craven! Lord of Slaves! --- OrtegaTron knelt before his fallen enemy and said a prayer. "Forgive me. May you find in the next world what you couldn't find here."- AlisLandale <cite>OrtegaTron posted [p:885731067] in bakery in ... [t:75724370]...</cite> <quote><cite>LotrMorgoth posted...</cite> <quote><cite>OrtegaTron posted...</cite> <quote>(Draws Ringil against TC)</quote> you know how this ends for you. . .</quote> Craven! Lord of Slaves!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KILBOTz 08/30/17 4:03:21 PM #17:	The arbitrary line for me is a business operated out of someone's primary residence I am fine with them doing crap like that but if it is business in a commercial/residential area they have to accommodate those sort of requests. --- http://i.imgur.com/O3syCWD.gif http://i.imgur.com/k3YiBdG.gif <cite>KILBOTz posted [p:885731121] in bakery in ... [t:75724370]...</cite> <quote>The arbitrary line for me is a business operated out of someone's primary residence I am fine with them doing crap like that but if it is business in a commercial/residential area they have to accommodate those sort of requests.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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A_Good_Boy 08/30/17 5:02:09 PM #19:	fenderbender321 posted... A_Good_Boy posted... fenderbender321 posted... LotrMorgoth posted... i also think this is a fair out for the company and they shouldn't face any punishment Careful...if you don't actively support hundreds of thousands of dollars in fines, CE will label you a bigot. Harassment and refusal to pay court fees tends to do that. People here all supported the idea that businesses should be shut down or massively fined out of business for refusing. Breaking the law tends to get that sort of reaction. Weird, I know. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.2.2 <cite>A_Good_Boy posted [p:885734308] in bakery in ... [t:75724370]...</cite> <quote><cite>fenderbender321 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>A_Good_Boy posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>fenderbender321 posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>LotrMorgoth posted...</cite> <quote> i also think this is a fair out for the company and they shouldn't face any punishment </quote> Careful...if you don't actively support hundreds of thousands of dollars in fines, CE will label you a bigot. </quote> Harassment and refusal to pay court fees tends to do that.</quote> People here all supported the idea that businesses should be shut down or massively fined out of business for refusing.</quote> Breaking the law tends to get that sort of reaction. Weird, I know.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GOATSLAYER 08/30/17 5:06:24 PM #20:	lowtides posted... It's ridiculous. As a gay man myself all I want is to be treated as an equal. Why should I be denied service just because I like men? This is repulsive and I don't get how anyone can defend something like this. A business owner has the right to refuse service to anyone. And if it goes against their religious beliefs why would you force them to commit sacrelige or whatever? It's not fair to ask that of them. Just move on to a different bakery. It's not the end of the world --- Hide your kids, hide your goats <cite>GOATSLAYER posted [p:885734535] in bakery in ... [t:75724370]...</cite> <quote><cite>lowtides posted...</cite> <quote>It's ridiculous. As a gay man myself all I want is to be treated as an equal. Why should I be denied service just because I like men? This is repulsive and I don't get how anyone can defend something like this.</quote> A business owner has the right to refuse service to anyone. And if it goes against their religious beliefs why would you force them to commit sacrelige or whatever? It's not fair to ask that of them. Just move on to a different bakery. It's not the end of the world</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Taxer 08/30/17 5:06:46 PM #21:	I KNEW it was going to be here in the Central Valley. I came in expecting this to have happened in either Bakersfield or Fresno. Fuck Bakersfield, and this stupid owner. The "free market" does not correct bigotry and discrimination. Let them eat their fines. --- https://soundcloud.com/taxerthetyrant <cite>Taxer posted [p:885734560] in bakery in ... [t:75724370]...</cite> <quote>I KNEW it was going to be here in the Central Valley. I came in expecting this to have happened in either Bakersfield or Fresno. Fuck Bakersfield, and this stupid owner. The "free market" does not correct bigotry and discrimination. Let them eat their fines.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
sondast 08/30/17 5:07:35 PM #22:	NINExATExSEVEN posted... So a bakery can't refuse service to a gay couple without legal action against them, but neo monopolies like Google and YouTube can refuse and hinder millions of people who share a different opinion and thats somehow okay and doesn't deserve legal action. Wtf? Nazis aren't a protected class in California. --- Take a lesson from parakeets. If you're ever feeling lonely, just eat in front of a mirror. <cite>sondast posted [p:885734600] in bakery in ... [t:75724370]...</cite> <quote><cite>NINExATExSEVEN posted...</cite> <quote>So a bakery can't refuse service to a gay couple without legal action against them, but neo monopolies like Google and YouTube can refuse and hinder millions of people who share a different opinion and thats somehow okay and doesn't deserve legal action. Wtf?</quote> Nazis aren't a protected class in California.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BootyGif 08/30/17 5:08:55 PM #23:	Good Your religious bullshit had no place in capitalism --- https://i.imgtc.com/4s4wNqG.png <cite>BootyGif posted [p:885734672] in bakery in ... [t:75724370]...</cite> <quote>Good Your religious bullshit had no place in capitalism</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GOATSLAYER 08/30/17 5:09:01 PM #24:	sondast posted... NINExATExSEVEN posted... So a bakery can't refuse service to a gay couple without legal action against them, but neo monopolies like Google and YouTube can refuse and hinder millions of people who share a different opinion and thats somehow okay and doesn't deserve legal action. Wtf? Nazis aren't a protected class in California. Everyone you don't agree with is a Nazi? --- Hide your kids, hide your goats <cite>GOATSLAYER posted [p:885734681] in bakery in ... [t:75724370]...</cite> <quote><cite>sondast posted...</cite> <quote><cite>NINExATExSEVEN posted...</cite> <quote>So a bakery can't refuse service to a gay couple without legal action against them, but neo monopolies like Google and YouTube can refuse and hinder millions of people who share a different opinion and thats somehow okay and doesn't deserve legal action. Wtf?</quote> Nazis aren't a protected class in California.</quote> Everyone you don't agree with is a Nazi?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
A_Good_Boy 08/30/17 5:10:02 PM #25:	GOATSLAYER posted... sondast posted... NINExATExSEVEN posted... So a bakery can't refuse service to a gay couple without legal action against them, but neo monopolies like Google and YouTube can refuse and hinder millions of people who share a different opinion and thats somehow okay and doesn't deserve legal action. Wtf? Nazis aren't a protected class in California. Everyone you don't agree with is a Nazi? Who did you think that poster was referring to when he started whining about Google? --- Posted with GameRaven 3.2.2 <cite>A_Good_Boy posted [p:885734734] in bakery in ... [t:75724370]...</cite> <quote><cite>GOATSLAYER posted...</cite> <quote><cite>sondast posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>NINExATExSEVEN posted...</cite> <quote> So a bakery can't refuse service to a gay couple without legal action against them, but neo monopolies like Google and YouTube can refuse and hinder millions of people who share a different opinion and thats somehow okay and doesn't deserve legal action. Wtf? </quote> Nazis aren't a protected class in California.</quote> Everyone you don't agree with is a Nazi?</quote> Who did you think that poster was referring to when he started whining about Google?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BootyGif 08/30/17 5:10:17 PM #26:	GOATSLAYER posted... sondast posted... NINExATExSEVEN posted... So a bakery can't refuse service to a gay couple without legal action against them, but neo monopolies like Google and YouTube can refuse and hinder millions of people who share a different opinion and thats somehow okay and doesn't deserve legal action. Wtf? Nazis aren't a protected class in California. Everyone you don't agree with is a Nazi? Nazis openly hated gays --- https://i.imgtc.com/4s4wNqG.png <cite>BootyGif posted [p:885734750] in bakery in ... [t:75724370]...</cite> <quote><cite>GOATSLAYER posted...</cite> <quote><cite>sondast posted...</cite> <quote><cite>NINExATExSEVEN posted...</cite> <quote>So a bakery can't refuse service to a gay couple without legal action against them, but neo monopolies like Google and YouTube can refuse and hinder millions of people who share a different opinion and thats somehow okay and doesn't deserve legal action. Wtf?</quote> Nazis aren't a protected class in California.</quote> Everyone you don't agree with is a Nazi?</quote> Nazis openly hated gays</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GOATSLAYER 08/30/17 5:11:44 PM #27:	A_Good_Boy posted... GOATSLAYER posted... sondast posted... NINExATExSEVEN posted... So a bakery can't refuse service to a gay couple without legal action against them, but neo monopolies like Google and YouTube can refuse and hinder millions of people who share a different opinion and thats somehow okay and doesn't deserve legal action. Wtf? Nazis aren't a protected class in California. Everyone you don't agree with is a Nazi? Who did you think that poster was referring to when he started whining about Google? Idk. The post you quoted had nothing to do with nazis though --- Hide your kids, hide your goats <cite>GOATSLAYER posted [p:885734825] in bakery in ... [t:75724370]...</cite> <quote><cite>A_Good_Boy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GOATSLAYER posted...</cite> <quote><cite>sondast posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>NINExATExSEVEN posted...</cite> <quote> So a bakery can't refuse service to a gay couple without legal action against them, but neo monopolies like Google and YouTube can refuse and hinder millions of people who share a different opinion and thats somehow okay and doesn't deserve legal action. Wtf? </quote> Nazis aren't a protected class in California.</quote> Everyone you don't agree with is a Nazi?</quote> Who did you think that poster was referring to when he started whining about Google?</quote> Idk. The post you quoted had nothing to do with nazis though</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GOATSLAYER 08/30/17 5:12:09 PM #29:	BootyGif posted... GOATSLAYER posted... sondast posted... NINExATExSEVEN posted... So a bakery can't refuse service to a gay couple without legal action against them, but neo monopolies like Google and YouTube can refuse and hinder millions of people who share a different opinion and thats somehow okay and doesn't deserve legal action. Wtf? Nazis aren't a protected class in California. Everyone you don't agree with is a Nazi? Nazis openly hated gays So everyone who doesn't support them is a Nazi? Makes sense --- Hide your kids, hide your goats <cite>GOATSLAYER posted [p:885734853] in bakery in ... [t:75724370]...</cite> <quote><cite>BootyGif posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GOATSLAYER posted...</cite> <quote><cite>sondast posted...</cite> <quote><cite>NINExATExSEVEN posted...</cite> <quote>So a bakery can't refuse service to a gay couple without legal action against them, but neo monopolies like Google and YouTube can refuse and hinder millions of people who share a different opinion and thats somehow okay and doesn't deserve legal action. Wtf?</quote> Nazis aren't a protected class in California.</quote> Everyone you don't agree with is a Nazi?</quote> Nazis openly hated gays</quote> So everyone who doesn't support them is a Nazi? Makes sense</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
A_Good_Boy 08/30/17 5:13:18 PM #30:	GOATSLAYER posted... A_Good_Boy posted... GOATSLAYER posted... sondast posted... NINExATExSEVEN posted... So a bakery can't refuse service to a gay couple without legal action against them, but neo monopolies like Google and YouTube can refuse and hinder millions of people who share a different opinion and thats somehow okay and doesn't deserve legal action. Wtf? Nazis aren't a protected class in California. Everyone you don't agree with is a Nazi? Who did you think that poster was referring to when he started whining about Google? Idk. The post you quoted had nothing to do with nazis though So what do you think he was referring to? --- Posted with GameRaven 3.2.2 <cite>A_Good_Boy posted [p:885734909] in bakery in ... [t:75724370]...</cite> <quote><cite>GOATSLAYER posted...</cite> <quote><cite>A_Good_Boy posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>GOATSLAYER posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>sondast posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>NINExATExSEVEN posted...</cite> <quote> So a bakery can't refuse service to a gay couple without legal action against them, but neo monopolies like Google and YouTube can refuse and hinder millions of people who share a different opinion and thats somehow okay and doesn't deserve legal action. Wtf? </quote> Nazis aren't a protected class in California. </quote> Everyone you don't agree with is a Nazi? </quote> Who did you think that poster was referring to when he started whining about Google?</quote> Idk. The post you quoted had nothing to do with nazis though</quote> So what do you think he was referring to?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GOATSLAYER 08/30/17 5:15:30 PM #31:	A_Good_Boy posted... GOATSLAYER posted... A_Good_Boy posted... GOATSLAYER posted... sondast posted... NINExATExSEVEN posted... So a bakery can't refuse service to a gay couple without legal action against them, but neo monopolies like Google and YouTube can refuse and hinder millions of people who share a different opinion and thats somehow okay and doesn't deserve legal action. Wtf? Nazis aren't a protected class in California. Everyone you don't agree with is a Nazi? Who did you think that poster was referring to when he started whining about Google? Idk. The post you quoted had nothing to do with nazis though So what do you think he was referring to? I already said I don't know. It just sounded like incoherent rambling. --- Hide your kids, hide your goats <cite>GOATSLAYER posted [p:885735036] in bakery in ... [t:75724370]...</cite> <quote><cite>A_Good_Boy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GOATSLAYER posted...</cite> <quote><cite>A_Good_Boy posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>GOATSLAYER posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>sondast posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>NINExATExSEVEN posted...</cite> <quote> So a bakery can't refuse service to a gay couple without legal action against them, but neo monopolies like Google and YouTube can refuse and hinder millions of people who share a different opinion and thats somehow okay and doesn't deserve legal action. Wtf? </quote> Nazis aren't a protected class in California. </quote> Everyone you don't agree with is a Nazi? </quote> Who did you think that poster was referring to when he started whining about Google?</quote> Idk. The post you quoted had nothing to do with nazis though</quote> So what do you think he was referring to?</quote> I already said I don't know. It just sounded like incoherent rambling.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
A_Good_Boy 08/30/17 5:17:37 PM #32:	GOATSLAYER posted... A_Good_Boy posted... GOATSLAYER posted... A_Good_Boy posted... GOATSLAYER posted... sondast posted... NINExATExSEVEN posted... So a bakery can't refuse service to a gay couple without legal action against them, but neo monopolies like Google and YouTube can refuse and hinder millions of people who share a different opinion and thats somehow okay and doesn't deserve legal action. Wtf? Nazis aren't a protected class in California. Everyone you don't agree with is a Nazi? Who did you think that poster was referring to when he started whining about Google? Idk. The post you quoted had nothing to do with nazis though So what do you think he was referring to? I already said I don't know. It just sounded like incoherent rambling. You afraid to guess or can we all just go ahead and agree that he was whinging about nazis getting kicked off YouTube? --- Posted with GameRaven 3.2.2 <cite>A_Good_Boy posted [p:885735150] in bakery in ... [t:75724370]...</cite> <quote><cite>GOATSLAYER posted...</cite> <quote><cite>A_Good_Boy posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>GOATSLAYER posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>A_Good_Boy posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>GOATSLAYER posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>sondast posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>NINExATExSEVEN posted...</cite> <quote> So a bakery can't refuse service to a gay couple without legal action against them, but neo monopolies like Google and YouTube can refuse and hinder millions of people who share a different opinion and thats somehow okay and doesn't deserve legal action. Wtf? </quote> Nazis aren't a protected class in California. </quote> Everyone you don't agree with is a Nazi? </quote> Who did you think that poster was referring to when he started whining about Google? </quote> Idk. The post you quoted had nothing to do with nazis though </quote> So what do you think he was referring to?</quote> I already said I don't know. It just sounded like incoherent rambling.</quote> You afraid to guess or can we all just go ahead and agree that he was whinging about nazis getting kicked off YouTube?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GOATSLAYER 08/30/17 5:18:57 PM #33:	I don't even know what you're talking about, bro --- Hide your kids, hide your goats <cite>GOATSLAYER posted [p:885735217] in bakery in ... [t:75724370]...</cite> <quote>I don't even know what you're talking about, bro</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
A_Good_Boy 08/30/17 5:20:22 PM #34:	GOATSLAYER posted... I don't even know what you're talking about, bro OK bro, keep on pretending breh. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.2.2 <cite>A_Good_Boy posted [p:885735297] in bakery in ... [t:75724370]...</cite> <quote><cite>GOATSLAYER posted...</cite> <quote>I don't even know what you're talking about, bro</quote> OK bro, keep on pretending breh.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GOATSLAYER 08/30/17 5:21:28 PM #35:	A_Good_Boy posted... GOATSLAYER posted... I don't even know what you're talking about, bro OK bro, keep on pretending breh. I'm not pretending anything. I don't get why you think that I am. Can you just post links to whatever you're talking about? --- Hide your kids, hide your goats <cite>GOATSLAYER posted [p:885735350] in bakery in ... [t:75724370]...</cite> <quote><cite>A_Good_Boy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GOATSLAYER posted...</cite> <quote>I don't even know what you're talking about, bro</quote> OK bro, keep on pretending breh.</quote> I'm not pretending anything. I don't get why you think that I am. Can you just post links to whatever you're talking about?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
A_Good_Boy 08/30/17 5:22:44 PM #36:	GOATSLAYER posted... A_Good_Boy posted... GOATSLAYER posted... I don't even know what you're talking about, bro OK bro, keep on pretending breh. I'm not pretending anything. I don't get why you think that I am. Can you just post links to whatever you're talking about? You can't ask the guy whining about Google and YouTube? He's the one we're talking about. Go ahead and ask him which groups he's concerned about. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.2.2 <cite>A_Good_Boy posted [p:885735413] in bakery in ... [t:75724370]...</cite> <quote><cite>GOATSLAYER posted...</cite> <quote><cite>A_Good_Boy posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>GOATSLAYER posted...</cite> <quote> I don't even know what you're talking about, bro </quote> OK bro, keep on pretending breh.</quote> I'm not pretending anything. I don't get why you think that I am. Can you just post links to whatever you're talking about?</quote> You can't ask the guy whining about Google and YouTube? He's the one we're talking about. Go ahead and ask him which groups he's concerned about.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GOATSLAYER 08/30/17 5:24:09 PM #37:	@NINExATExSEVEN What groups were you talking about? --- Hide your kids, hide your goats <cite>GOATSLAYER posted [p:885735489] in bakery in ... [t:75724370]...</cite> <quote>@NINExATExSEVEN What groups were you talking about?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Admiral 08/30/17 5:26:52 PM #39:	CE is very quick to destroy someone's business and life's work, even if it puts other innocent employees out of a job, if someone dares to hurt their feelings. No price is too high when a snowflake is upset. --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:885735655] in bakery in ... [t:75724370]...</cite> <quote>CE is very quick to destroy someone's business and life's work, even if it puts other innocent employees out of a job, if someone dares to hurt their feelings. No price is too high when a snowflake is upset.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
A_Good_Boy 08/30/17 5:27:40 PM #40:	The Admiral posted... CE is very quick to destroy someone's business and life's work, even if it puts other innocent employees out of a job, if someone dares to hurt their feelings. No price is too high when a snowflake is upset. It's other people's fault that the bakery owner ran afoul of the law? --- Posted with GameRaven 3.2.2 <cite>A_Good_Boy posted [p:885735712] in bakery in ... [t:75724370]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>CE is very quick to destroy someone's business and life's work, even if it puts other innocent employees out of a job, if someone dares to hurt their feelings. No price is too high when a snowflake is upset.</quote> It's other people's fault that the bakery owner ran afoul of the law?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LotrMorgoth 08/30/17 6:14:52 PM #43:	For me the difference here is the bakery didn't outright turn the people away, they provided a direct referral to another provider to complete the service-- this flies in the medical field, why not here? --- "You will not be happy if you continue to search for what happiness consists of. You will never live if you are looking for the meaning of life"-Camus <cite>LotrMorgoth posted [p:885738307] in bakery in ... [t:75724370]...</cite> <quote>For me the difference here is the bakery didn't outright turn the people away, they provided a direct referral to another provider to complete the service-- this flies in the medical field, why not here?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
unpleasant_milk 08/30/17 6:16:05 PM #44:	lowtides posted... It's ridiculous. As a gay man myself all I want is to be treated as an equal. Why should I be denied service just because I like men? This is repulsive and I don't get how anyone can defend something like this. Their bakery, their choice. --- GT unpleasant milk #I want a poacher skin rug ~ http://imgur.com/a/V10yv <cite>unpleasant_milk posted [p:885738379] in bakery in ... [t:75724370]...</cite> <quote><cite>lowtides posted...</cite> <quote>It's ridiculous. As a gay man myself all I want is to be treated as an equal. Why should I be denied service just because I like men? This is repulsive and I don't get how anyone can defend something like this.</quote> Their bakery, their choice.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 08/30/17 6:16:51 PM #45:	Good --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:885738412] in bakery in ... [t:75724370]...</cite> <quote>Good</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Deadpool 08/30/17 6:25:23 PM #46:	GOATSLAYER posted... A business owner has the right to refuse service to anyone. But they can't be racist. Religious freedoms have a limit. If I believe my god requires a sexual sacrifice of a pre-pubescent once a month it's not gonna turn legal just because I really believe it will it? You are welcome to believe X demographic is inferior, you can't act on it. That's descrimination. --- We are living in a world today where lemonade is made from artificial flavors and furniture polish is made from real lemons. <cite>The Deadpool posted [p:885738886] in bakery in ... [t:75724370]...</cite> <quote><cite>GOATSLAYER posted...</cite> <quote>A business owner has the right to refuse service to anyone. </quote> But they can't be racist. Religious freedoms have a limit. If I believe my god requires a sexual sacrifice of a pre-pubescent once a month it's not gonna turn legal just because I really believe it will it? You are welcome to believe X demographic is inferior, you can't act on it. That's descrimination.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 08/30/17 6:26:30 PM #47:	The Deadpool posted... GOATSLAYER posted... A business owner has the right to refuse service to anyone. But they can't be racist. Religious freedoms have a limit. If I believe my god requires a sexual sacrifice of a pre-pubescent once a month it's not gonna turn legal just because I really believe it will it? You are welcome to believe X demographic is inferior, you can't act on it. That's descrimination. But indentured servitude is also not legal. You can't force someone to do something for you, even if you offer to pay them. I don't agree with the bakers' opinions, but how is making them bake a cake they don't want to not a form of forced labor? --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:885738954] in bakery in ... [t:75724370]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Deadpool posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GOATSLAYER posted...</cite> <quote>A business owner has the right to refuse service to anyone. </quote> But they can't be racist. Religious freedoms have a limit. If I believe my god requires a sexual sacrifice of a pre-pubescent once a month it's not gonna turn legal just because I really believe it will it? You are welcome to believe X demographic is inferior, you can't act on it. That's descrimination.</quote> But indentured servitude is also not legal. You can't force someone to do something for you, even if you offer to pay them. I don't agree with the bakers' opinions, but how is making them bake a cake they don't want to not a form of forced labor?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LightningAce11 08/30/17 6:30:38 PM #48:	Why can't these people leave their religious beliefs at home? It shouldn't interfere with work. --- "I'm an atheist too but still believe in hell. That's where you're headed pal." - Mr_Karate_II <cite>LightningAce11 posted [p:885739165] in bakery in ... [t:75724370]...</cite> <quote>Why can't these people leave their religious beliefs at home? It shouldn't interfere with work.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 08/30/17 6:30:38 PM #49:	s0nicfan posted... The Deadpool posted... GOATSLAYER posted... A business owner has the right to refuse service to anyone. But they can't be racist. Religious freedoms have a limit. If I believe my god requires a sexual sacrifice of a pre-pubescent once a month it's not gonna turn legal just because I really believe it will it? You are welcome to believe X demographic is inferior, you can't act on it. That's descrimination. But indentured servitude is also not legal. You can't force someone to do something for you, even if you offer to pay them. I don't agree with the bakers' opinions, but how is making them bake a cake they don't want to not a form of forced labor? Forcing a business to not refuse their service from certain people over immutable characteristics is never going to be slavery no matter how hard insane libertarians try to push it. Are you against all rules and restrictions on business owners because muh free market? --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:885739166] in bakery in ... [t:75724370]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Deadpool posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GOATSLAYER posted...</cite> <quote>A business owner has the right to refuse service to anyone. </quote> But they can't be racist. Religious freedoms have a limit. If I believe my god requires a sexual sacrifice of a pre-pubescent once a month it's not gonna turn legal just because I really believe it will it? You are welcome to believe X demographic is inferior, you can't act on it. That's descrimination.</quote> But indentured servitude is also not legal. You can't force someone to do something for you, even if you offer to pay them. I don't agree with the bakers' opinions, but how is making them bake a cake they don't want to not a form of forced labor?</quote> Forcing a business to not refuse their service from certain people over immutable characteristics is never going to be slavery no matter how hard insane libertarians try to push it. Are you against all rules and restrictions on business owners because muh free market?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 08/30/17 6:31:41 PM #50:	LotrMorgoth posted... For me the difference here is the bakery didn't outright turn the people away, they provided a direct referral to another provider to complete the service-- this flies in the medical field, why not here? Because it's not a medical referral it's a cake? This excuse would fly if it was for a specific cake they don't provide. But they just outright refused to give wedding cakes to homosexual customers. That's a no-no. s0nicfan posted... But indentured servitude is also not legal. You can't force someone to do something for you, even if you offer to pay them. I don't agree with the bakers' opinions, but how is making them bake a cake they don't want to not a form of forced labor? Err what? They sell cakes to people. That's their business. It's not indentured servitude. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:885739230] in bakery in ... [t:75724370]...</cite> <quote><cite>LotrMorgoth posted...</cite> <quote>For me the difference here is the bakery didn't outright turn the people away, they provided a direct referral to another provider to complete the service-- this flies in the medical field, why not here?</quote> Because it's not a medical referral it's a cake? This excuse would fly if it was for a specific cake they don't provide. But they just outright refused to give wedding cakes to homosexual customers. That's a no-no. <cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>But indentured servitude is also not legal. You can't force someone to do something for you, even if you offer to pay them. I don't agree with the bakers' opinions, but how is making them bake a cake they don't want to not a form of forced labor?</quote> Err what? They sell cakes to people. That's their business. It's not indentured servitude.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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