Current Events > Is it called England, Britain or the UK?

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Are they English or British?
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Depends on whether or not they're from England.

You need to be more specific than that.
England: the bits that aren't Wales or Scotland, and possibly also Cornwall
Britain: the island that's England, Wales, Scotland, and Cornwall
UK: Britain and Northern Ireland, plus the Faulklands and some other territories nobody remembers.

fusespliff posted...

https://www.denverlibrary.org/blog/england-great-britain-united-kingdom-whats-difference

Bookmarking this page, thanks!
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england = country. you are english if you are born here

britain is formed of three countries: england, scotland and wales. you are 'british' if you're born in any of those countries

UK is formed of four countries: england, scotland, wales and northern ireland. the UK is a sovereign nation, e.g. our passports say that we are from the UK regardless of individual country of birth. so UK supersedes all of the above
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Parappa09 posted...

england = country. you are english if you are born here

britain is formed of three countries: england, scotland and wales. you are 'british' if you're born in any of those countries

UK is formed of four countries: england, scotland, wales and northern ireland. the UK is a sovereign nation, e.g. our passports say that we are from the UK regardless of individual country of birth. so UK supersedes all of the above

So Scottish people are really british?
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Johnny_Nutcase posted...

So Scottish people are really british?

Actually, yes.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Britain

Johnny_Nutcase posted...

So Scottish people are really british?

yeah but they don't like being called british, they prefer scottish >.> @pinky0926 @luigi13579

if anyone asked me where i'm from, I would either say london outright or the UK
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Questionmarktarius posted...

Johnny_Nutcase posted...

So Scottish people are really british?

Actually, yes.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Britain

And people from Northern Ireland aren't from Ireland? They're from the UK? This is so fucked up, i'm undoing what I learned here today.
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Parappa09 posted...

Johnny_Nutcase posted...

So Scottish people are really british?

yeah but they don't like being called british, they prefer scottish >.> @pinky0926 @luigi13579

if anyone asked me where i'm from, I would either say london outright or the UK

I don't mind being called British personally because I'm not aggressively scottish in the sort of Glasgwegian way, but I get triggered if someone calls me English :P
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Is Cornwall even really a thing?

pinky0926 posted...

but I get triggered if someone calls me English :P

it's just banter innit
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Questionmarktarius posted...

Is Cornwall even really a thing?

Yes. It's just another county.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNu8XDBSn10
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Funkydog posted...

Questionmarktarius posted...

Is Cornwall even really a thing?

Yes. It's just another county.

And people from Cornwall are called pasties
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People from Northern Ireland are generally called British too, even if they technically aren't. Colloquially, British is used to mean "from the UK", even if, again, that's not strictly true.

And yeah, Ireland is completely separate from the rest of the UK (including NI). That's why Brexit is such a big deal for Ireland and NI. It opens a huge can of worms. See the Good Friday Agreement. Also, for trade, keeping things the same is a terrible deal for Ireland (since basically, you could drive goods from NI to Ireland and ship them to the EU tariff free, despite not being in the EU any more).

Parappa09 posted...

yeah but they don't like being called british, they prefer scottish >.>

I don't really care either way to be honest. I use them both pretty much interchangeably without even thinking about it.

pinky0926 posted...

but I get triggered if someone calls me English :P

Haha, true.

England is the country. Britain is the geographical islands (England, Wales, Ireland and Scotland), sometimes called "The British Isles" or "Britannia". The United Kingdom refers to England's government, which controls England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland.

Parappa09 posted...

pinky0926 posted...

but I get triggered if someone calls me English :P

it's just banter innit

If it's banter then fairgame, but if its someone who's being wilfully ignorant then goddamnit triggered

Btw TC, if all this seems confusing to you that's because it is. Even most people who are from the UK probably couldn't give you an accurate breakdown.
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teepan95 posted...

Funkydog posted...

Questionmarktarius posted...

Is Cornwall even really a thing?

Yes. It's just another county.

And people from Cornwall are called pasties

And pasties are something you eat.
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pinky0926 posted...

If it's banter then fairgame, but if its someone who's being wilfully ignorant then goddamnit triggered

I vaguely remember Eminem at T in the Park shouting "England!" Did that actually happen?

luigi13579 posted...

pinky0926 posted...

If it's banter then fairgame, but if its someone who's being wilfully ignorant then goddamnit triggered

I vaguely remember Eminem at T in the Park shouting "England!" Did that actually happen?

God, did it? How embarrassing.
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What do people from England call themselves and where they live?
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EffectAndCause posted...

What do people from England call themselves and where they live?

Either English or British, and most of them live in London. The rest live north of London in various cities, hamlets and towns and have strange accents.
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Britain is also the name for the island itself that England, Scotland, and Wales are on.

So Northern Ireland is in the UK but not in Britain.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom


Is it so hard to Wiki something?

Northern Ireland is part of the UK while the Republic of Ireland is not.
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Parappa09 posted...

england = country. you are english if you are born here

britain is formed of three countries: england, scotland and wales. you are 'british' if you're born in any of those countries

UK is formed of four countries: england, scotland, wales and northern ireland. the UK is a sovereign nation, e.g. our passports say that we are from the UK regardless of individual country of birth. so UK supersedes all of the above

Personally this topic has actually been pretty educational but im a little confused. England AND Britain are both considered UK? The UK is comprised of England which itself is part of Britain?

I had always thought the UK was just a nickname for England and the people were just called British.

The UK = The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland
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Sage JJ posted...

I had always thought the UK was just a nickname for England and the people were just called British.

You have been wrong all of these years, my dear child.
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Banana_Mana posted...

The UK = The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland

And...

Britain = England + Wales
Great Britain = England + Wales + Scotland
The British Isles = All Ireland and Great Britain
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There's also the remnants of the British Empire like Gibraltar and the UK Virgin Islands.
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Are the Scottish looked upon as the hillbillies of Europe ?
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Sage JJ posted...

Parappa09 posted...

england = country. you are english if you are born here

britain is formed of three countries: england, scotland and wales. you are 'british' if you're born in any of those countries

UK is formed of four countries: england, scotland, wales and northern ireland. the UK is a sovereign nation, e.g. our passports say that we are from the UK regardless of individual country of birth. so UK supersedes all of the above

Personally this topic has actually been pretty educational but im a little confused. England AND Britain are both considered UK? The UK is comprised of England which itself is part of Britain?

I had always thought the UK was just a nickname for England and the people were just called British.

@Sage_JJ

Read the Wiki link.

The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland is made up of four countries.

England.
Scotland.
Wales.
Northern Ireland.


No offence meant but this song just kind of fits this topic in general lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1BS7XnEZqc
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PrettyBoyFloyd posted...

Are the Scottish looked upon as the hillbillies of Europe ?

No. But Brits (particular English) are know as the worst tourists of Europe. We're the assholes who think culture means sitting on a beach in spain in a football jersey with a pint of carling.

Scots are by and large actually quite cultured and most of them tend to leave Scotland.
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CIA_Agent posted...

Sage JJ posted...

I had always thought the UK was just a nickname for England and the people were just called British.

You have been wrong all of these years, my dear child.

Its a pretty big misconception than because ive met many people over the years who thought the same

pinky0926 posted...

No. But Brits (particular English) are know as the worst tourists of Europe. We're the assholes who think culture means sitting on a beach in spain in a football jersey with a pint of carling.

Scots are by and large actually quite cultured and most of them tend to leave Scotland.

The British idea of speaking Spanish on holiday is to add an o to the end of certain words lol.

Sage JJ posted...

CIA_Agent posted...

Sage JJ posted...

I had always thought the UK was just a nickname for England and the people were just called British.

You have been wrong all of these years, my dear child.

Its a pretty big misconception than because ive met many people over the years who thought the same

The ignorant American stereotype is strong in your area then? No offence meant just an observation lol.
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EffectAndCause posted...

What do people from England call themselves and where they live?

i'd call myself british first, londoner second

I avoid calling myself english since it feels like its more for actual white people with english heritageSage JJ posted...

England AND Britain are both considered UK? The UK is comprised of England which itself is part of Britain?

yeah but don't think of britain and UK as two different/opposing things. rather, just two different terms used to describe a similar place

casually, UK is used more in government while britain refers more to the island we're on

pinky0926 posted...

No. But Brits (particular English) are know as the worst tourists of Europe. We're the assholes who think culture means sitting on a beach in spain in a football jersey with a pint of carling.

we are just terrible people all round. I just got back from prague since it was my mates stag do and the british people over there were pure scum

I haven't met many scottish people but the ones I have are absolutely sound. honestly though I do struggle with the accent lol
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Funkydog posted...

teepan95 posted...

Funkydog posted...

Questionmarktarius posted...

Is Cornwall even really a thing?

Yes. It's just another county.

And people from Cornwall are called pasties

And pasties are something you eat.

Assuming you have access to them ;_;
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So when I vacation in Leicester next month, I can say i'm in England and the people around me are English?
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EffectAndCause posted...

So when I vacation in Leicester next month, I can say i'm in England and the people around me are English?

Yes. You should walk up to every English person you see and proudly announce that even though you are an American, you are willing to forgive them for their past transgressions against our people in the days of the colonies. They will be impressed by your diplomacy.
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I'm hoping to extend the olive branch by at least referring to them and their home by their preferred labels, it's the least we Americans can do after a handful of our farmers defeated their entire army.
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Actually it was your army + help from the French while the French tried to invade us.

A) Ignorant American/10.
B) Read the wiki link.
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EffectAndCause posted...

I'm hoping to extend the olive branch by at least referring to them and their home by their preferred labels, it's the least we Americans can do after a handful of our farmers defeated their entire army.

Lol. I think you need a history lesson.
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I think you need a new sarcasm detector.
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Remember also Jersey, Guernsey, Isle of Man, etc.
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Very hard to detect sarcasm in text form lol.
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spikethedevil posted...

Very hard to detect sarcasm in text form lol.

That joke was very easy to detect tbh
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Its pronounced "the ook"
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scar the 1 posted...

spikethedevil posted...

Very hard to detect sarcasm in text form lol.

That joke was very easy to detect tbh

And many Americans get it wrong so no not so easy to detect.
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