Board 8 > Sir Chris (that's me, for those new) answers questions pre-hurricane.

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Steiner posted...

Oh sorry there used to be an emotionally manipulative narcissist by the name of Sir Chris here who would totally have said things like everything you've said in this topic but I guess he died or something.

The accusation is obvious, but there's a reason I don't speak in private with anyone on board 8 anymore pretty much. I am done being that person.
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well I am glad you and gravy made up

also pineapple fried rice sounds great
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jesus christ Steiner, did Chris convince your girlfriend to leave you or some shit
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chris never wronged me at all, presumably because he knows the sort of people he can repeatedly get away with wronging when it suits him :)
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i'm sorry but this topic just comes off as you being a dickhead for no reason.

and I like both of you.
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ok that last post stunk of chris levels of bravado and i apologize for it, i don't view myself as anywhere near that intimidating.

but it was to say, that my problem with chris doesn't come from interactions i had with him myself, but with how he treats others.
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Well you should take it up with him elsewhere instead of coming into his hurricane topic to be a c*** about it.
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I love when people say 'that's not me anymore'. Okay buddy...

But really I have no opinions other than the context of this topic and it was funny seeing chris call himself the greatest at mafia then provide a numerical score of how great he is. Who does that not as a joke?
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OliviaTremor posted...

I love when people say 'that's not me anymore'. Okay buddy...

But really I have no opinions other than the context of this topic and it was funny seeing chris call himself the greatest at mafia then provide a numerical score of how great he is. Who does that not as a joke?

yeah exactly this is the only reason i actually said anything. chris was already completely aware of my opinion on him, but there were parts of this topic i couldn't resist responding to.
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you guys really don't like being reminded about your mafia limitations goddamn.

in the year of our lord 2017 we are still getting butthurt about Chris acting arrogant about his mafia play.
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you got me. i'm upset at how much better at me chris is at both mafia and mercenaries. if only i were as talented at manipulating people on a forum.
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okay but that's the point of mafia though?

if that's not it then what are you upset about.

because there's clearly something
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Well Chris has done numerous shady things in various topics and projects, he's made amends with a fair amount of them but they are there regardless, kinda hard to wipe away it with "OH THAT PERSON IS DEAD NOW I'M A NEW PERSON IT'S ALL OK"
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ExThaNemesis posted...

okay but that's the point of mafia though?

if that's not it then what are you upset about.

because there's clearly something

Actually unbelievable levels of pretentiousness seems like a good guess.

i've not played mafia in, what, a decade? all i'm saying is, I would be quite happy to just give chris a wide berth, except he says such hilariously arrogant things that i can't help but respond to.
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But yeah, stay safe Chris. Wishing you the best if you are trying to weather it out.
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So far literally none of you have given me anything concrete to work with after like ten minutes of posting so forgive me for just assuming you're all mad about chris being better at you than mafia.
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also Chris GET THE FUCK OUT OF THERE

did you not see what happened to Houston ffs.
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Steiner posted...

i'm upset at how much better at me chris is at both mafia and mercenaries

me too bro

also I feel if we are willing to buy fifty ulti face turns we can afford to give chris benefit of the doubt once >_>
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Yeah I think it is fair to say I am trying to be a different person and also fair if Steiner says "I don't care you still suck because of this." Not trying to wipe anything away.

Mafia if you don't have a chip on your shoulder and an urge to outwit people you are going to fall off fast. I don't really play much anymore but comparing mafia to mercs is a bit much. In mercs I was a horrible human being, in mafia deception is the actual name of the game.
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Also I live just south of Tampa and it is starting to turn east a bit, so I may be okay. I am not in Miami or anything (which may in fact be super doomed.)

Believe it or not I appreciate Steiner sticking it to me on other people's behalf. It's a good look, he hasn't done anything wrong here.
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Tom Bombadil posted...

also I feel if we are willing to buy fifty ulti face turns we can afford to give chris benefit of the doubt once >_>

I'm glad someone else said it.

Ulti says he's going to change his b8 persona for the 8th time

"seems legit"

Chris says he went through some serious stuff that caused him to act a certain way and that he's trying real hard to change and has done for the most part

"...he's tricked me in mafia one too many times. Can he be trusted..."
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DoomTheGyarados posted...

Yeah I think it is fair to say I am trying to be a different person and also fair if Steiner says "I don't care you still suck because of this." Not trying to wipe anything away.

very reasonable. i may have been a little unreasonable in this topic especially considering the timing. i genuinely wish you the best.
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Actually you know what Chris, that might be why people aren't willing to give you the benefit of the doubt. You're so good at mafia that they literally think you're still conning them long after the game has ended.


Look at me, not helping his ego one bit.
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extha i love you but it's just fine that you don't know what you're talking about, take chris's word for it that he essentially deserved something like this. (the roasting, not the hurricane)
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ExTha is my hype man, let him do his unpaid job in peace. Even villains need hype men. Maybe moreso than heroes.
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ExThaNemesis posted...

also Chris GET THE FUCK OUT OF THERE

did you not see what happened to Houston ffs.

Quoting because Chris Pls
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I'll believe Chris has given up being a narcissist when he pegs his town play at around 60-70 or so.
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PS Good luck with the hurricane dude
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foolm0r0n posted...

Looks like there's a storm brewing in here

Nah.Also hey Foolmo, how have you been doing? Been awhile since I've caught up with you.

trdl23 posted...

Will I ever be anything more than a garbage-tier Mercs leader?

Signs point to "no."

You were mostly fine, it is super hard to be a Mercs leader without a ton of prep. The first half of Mercs 4 wasn't me being clever it was me executing a years in the making plan because I had thought about Mercs a lot since Mercs 3. You were asked to run a team not your own and to do so on a confined schedule. You were fine. I would do things differently in your shoes, even ignoring my shady scheming aspects (I swear I can do good things without being chaotic evil) but you weren't bad. It's a tough game.
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Steiner posted...

extha i love you but it's just fine that you don't know what you're talking about

I've never let that stop me before
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Lopen posted...

I'll believe Chris has given up being a narcissist when he pegs his town play at around 60-70 or so.

I will settle for "given up being a narcissist aside from mafia" then.

I keep winning awards, and only half of them are in my own head.
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that's why i said it's fine!
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FTR I think I actually agree with 91 as scum.
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Gatarix posted...

well I am glad you and gravy made up

also pineapple fried rice sounds great

Me too. Pineapple fried rice is, in fact, great. It is one of those weird things that just works really well. I might grab some for dinner now that it has been mentioned quite a bit.

ExThaNemesis posted...

jesus christ Steiner, did Chris convince your girlfriend to leave you or some shit

This made me laugh out loud though, I love you Extha, even if I deserve the beating.

Steiner posted...

chris never wronged me at all, presumably because he knows the sort of people he can repeatedly get away with wronging when it suits him :)

Man this is vintage Sir Chris, you nailed that.

OliviaTremor posted...

I love when people say 'that's not me anymore'. Okay buddy...

But really I have no opinions other than the context of this topic and it was funny seeing chris call himself the greatest at mafia then provide a numerical score of how great he is. Who does that not as a joke?

Quantifying shit is my jam.
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DoomTheGyarados posted...

Man this is vintage Sir Chris, you nailed that.

right? as soon as i posted it i realized what i'd become.
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Lopen posted...

FTR I think I actually agree with 91 as scum.

I mean I guess an argument can be made I just ran extremely good away from GameFAQs, because before that I would have said my scum game > my town game but I really beasted it away from this place without the specter of dying every night one forever looming over my head.

In fairness though 60-70s from Lopen is basically a prorated 90+ let's be real.
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Well not really. I probably wouldn't say you're top 10 town on the board actually (need a list though)-- still above average and all due to activity and being able to spur the town into doing stuff very well, but I think you're wrong about the statistically average amount of times with your reads, which is very dangerous with your playstyle as the amount of information to be obtained from a mislynch driven by you is dubious.

Granted I don't see you survive past early game very often as town so it may be somewhat unfair since I mean who can really make good reads in the first few days very reliably, but there are ways to gather information that don't involve ramming a dude with a hot poker.
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My best town game ever offsite I was wrong about the day 1 lynch and then vig shot scum night 1 and lynched 3 scum in a row to win it, leading hard the entire way.

Day 1s are my worst days by far and it is all board 8 has seen of my play in 7 years!

Actually with that in mind I think your rating of my town play given day 1s is probably more than fair lol.
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Yeah. Day 1s are everyone's worst day by far that's why I say I might be being unfair.

I do think the flaw of "if you're wrong (or even right), what information can we get out of it in later days" is a big issue though. It's probably the biggest reason why Ulti is pretty much a dumpster tier town player from the games I've watched. Like if you basically give everyone a super easy lynch road if they wanna take it, right or wrong, then the day is basically wasted on the information end. Course I think you've realized that and tried to play a bit more passively recently, but a passive version of your play still potentially has that issue if someone else doesn't cover for you. (I bring up Ulti specifically because his town play seems like the worst possible version of what yours would be)

And that aspect might also be checked by towns not filled with gelatin though so yeah I might be being doubly unfair here.

I guess what I'm saying is there are a lot of aspects of town play in mafia and I think you've got some weaknesses on the "generating useful information for town to use" end which the ideal 98/100 town player would not (in a shocking twist that is not me, but I do think I beat you in this particular aspect of town play)
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I got shot N1 the only game I've played in like five years can I be 98/100
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OliviaTremor posted...

I love when people say 'that's not me anymore'. Okay buddy...

But really I have no opinions other than the context of this topic and it was funny seeing chris call himself the greatest at mafia then provide a numerical score of how great he is. Who does that not as a joke?

Welcome to board 8.
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Steiner posted...

you got me. i'm upset at how much better at me chris is at both mafia and mercenaries. if only i were as talented at manipulating people on a forum.

don't forget smfffc

dude is versatile
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I dunno what's wilder... Steiner risking epop to attack Chris or Chris using the Ulti defense of "I am different now".

What a topic.
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i don't know that his success at smfffc is tied into what i was talking about, nor that it was particularly pronounced.
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Speaking of day 1, I'm still holding a grudge over the last time I played mafia and went from zero to lynched with < 5 minutes to go on day 1, while absent.

In the one flavor I really cared about.
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Steiner already won uoty you think he gives a fuck
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Bane_Of_Despair posted...

Steiner already won uoty you think he gives a fuck

yes
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i once risked epop by saying corrik was okay it's the biggest regret of my life
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Steiner will never be B8 Leader at this rate
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