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s0nicfan 09/08/17 4:03:07 PM #102:	You're not going to change my mind on this, Stalin, so give up. "Muslim doctor watches football" doesn't make headlines, but "pew research poll finds majority of nonviolent moderate muslims believe in awful things in significantly larger numbers than their non-muslim neighbors" does. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:886258370] in British Mu... [t:75754542]...</cite> <quote>You're not going to change my mind on this, Stalin, so give up. "Muslim doctor watches football" doesn't make headlines, but "pew research poll finds majority of nonviolent moderate muslims believe in awful things in significantly larger numbers than their non-muslim neighbors" does.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Horus_Leftfield 09/08/17 4:07:46 PM #103:	s0nicfan posted... You're not going to change my mind on this, Stalin, so give up. "Muslim doctor watches football" doesn't make headlines, but "pew research poll finds majority of nonviolent moderate muslims believe in awful things in significantly larger numbers than their non-muslim neighbors" does. s0nicfan posted... You're not going to change my mind on this, Stalin, so give up. "Muslim doctor watches football" doesn't make headlines, but "pew research poll finds majority of nonviolent moderate muslims believe in awful things in significantly larger numbers than their non-muslim neighbors" does. Yes it is hard to deprogram people from bigotry. You are no exception. --- "To be a poor man is hard, but to be a poor race in a land of dollars is the very bottom of hardships." -- W.E.B. Du Bois <cite>Horus_Leftfield posted [p:886258583] in British Mu... [t:75754542]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>You're not going to change my mind on this, Stalin, so give up. "Muslim doctor watches football" doesn't make headlines, but "pew research poll finds majority of nonviolent moderate muslims believe in awful things in significantly larger numbers than their non-muslim neighbors" does.</quote> <cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>You're not going to change my mind on this, Stalin, so give up. "Muslim doctor watches football" doesn't make headlines, but "pew research poll finds majority of nonviolent moderate muslims believe in awful things in significantly larger numbers than their non-muslim neighbors" does.</quote> Yes it is hard to deprogram people from bigotry. You are no exception.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 09/08/17 4:09:15 PM #104:	Horus_Leftfield posted... Yes it is hard to deprogram people from bigotry. You are no exception. But apparently it's quite easy to ignore 1400 years of history, and an endless supply of modern real-world examples, polls, and videos. I guess if you bury your head far enough in the sand, even Islam can look good. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:886258659] in British Mu... [t:75754542]...</cite> <quote><cite>Horus_Leftfield posted...</cite> <quote> Yes it is hard to deprogram people from bigotry. You are no exception. </quote> But apparently it's quite easy to ignore 1400 years of history, and an endless supply of modern real-world examples, polls, and videos. I guess if you bury your head far enough in the sand, even Islam can look good.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EnragedSlith 09/08/17 4:10:35 PM #105:	The amount of bigotry in this topic is disgusting --- http://i.imgur.com/gIoselB.gif https://i.imgur.com/p8iCfHF.jpg <cite>EnragedSlith posted [p:886258725] in British Mu... [t:75754542]...</cite> <quote>The amount of bigotry in this topic is disgusting</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 09/08/17 4:12:10 PM #106:	EnragedSlith posted... The amount of bigotry in this topic is disgusting Almost as disgusting as an ideology that has produced over a dozen genocides. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:886258807] in British Mu... [t:75754542]...</cite> <quote><cite>EnragedSlith posted...</cite> <quote>The amount of bigotry in this topic is disgusting</quote> Almost as disgusting as an ideology that has produced over a dozen genocides.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Broseph_Stalin 09/08/17 4:16:43 PM #107:	s0nicfan posted... You're not going to change my mind on this Oh of course not. You're not the first person to think like this, to put emotion before reason. You have preconceived notions about people who are different from you and no facts will convince you otherwise. Even before the US was an independent country there was concern from the English speaking population about the Dutch and German settlers being too "foreign". The slave population couldn't be trusted with freedom. Irish and Italians would never integrate because of their Catholic beliefs. And the sad part is these people never realize they're nothing more than political pawns. Look at how many poor white southerners died for slavery, how many Germans died to "save" themselves from the Jews. <cite>Broseph_Stalin posted [p:886259040] in British Mu... [t:75754542]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>You're not going to change my mind on this</quote> Oh of course not. You're not the first person to think like this, to put emotion before reason. You have preconceived notions about people who are different from you and no facts will convince you otherwise. Even before the US was an independent country there was concern from the English speaking population about the Dutch and German settlers being too "foreign". The slave population couldn't be trusted with freedom. Irish and Italians would never integrate because of their Catholic beliefs. And the sad part is these people never realize they're nothing more than political pawns. Look at how many poor white southerners died for slavery, how many Germans died to "save" themselves from the Jews.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Broseph_Stalin 09/08/17 4:17:25 PM #108:	s0nicfan posted... But apparently it's quite easy to ignore 1400 years of history Yeah, apparently. <cite>Broseph_Stalin posted [p:886259090] in British Mu... [t:75754542]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>But apparently it's quite easy to ignore 1400 years of history</quote> Yeah, apparently.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ReignFury 09/08/17 4:21:33 PM #109:	No surprises there, islam is incompatible with the west. --- Not all women deserve chivalry http://i.giftrunk.com/rv4b2c.gif <cite>ReignFury posted [p:886259327] in British Mu... [t:75754542]...</cite> <quote>No surprises there, islam is incompatible with the west.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 09/08/17 4:21:34 PM #110:	Broseph_Stalin posted... Even before the US was an independent country there was concern from the English speaking population about the Dutch and German settlers being too "foreign". The slave population couldn't be trusted with freedom. Irish and Italians would never integrate because of their Catholic beliefs. Yea yea we get it, an ideology that dominates 52 countries, many of them at nearly 100% homogeneity because they purged all the nonbelievers, is just another example of some poor oppressed group that big bad western society just doesn't understand. Never mind the fact that nowhere else in the world is the same standard being expected. Kill on sight if you're a Jew in half the muslim world? Polytheists and gays being thrown off rooftops? Illegal to worship anything other than Islam in a dozen countries? Oh, let's ignore that. The REAL issue is western muslims not getting good enough jobs, or rich western nations not taking in a large enough number of muslims. Ah, the soft bigotry of low expectations, what a wicked web you weave. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:886259330] in British Mu... [t:75754542]...</cite> <quote><cite>Broseph_Stalin posted...</cite> <quote>Even before the US was an independent country there was concern from the English speaking population about the Dutch and German settlers being too "foreign". The slave population couldn't be trusted with freedom. Irish and Italians would never integrate because of their Catholic beliefs. </quote> Yea yea we get it, an ideology that dominates 52 countries, many of them at nearly 100% homogeneity because they purged all the nonbelievers, is just another example of some poor oppressed group that big bad western society just doesn't understand. Never mind the fact that nowhere else in the world is the same standard being expected. Kill on sight if you're a Jew in half the muslim world? Polytheists and gays being thrown off rooftops? Illegal to worship anything other than Islam in a dozen countries? Oh, let's ignore that. The REAL issue is western muslims not getting good enough jobs, or rich western nations not taking in a large enough number of muslims. Ah, the soft bigotry of low expectations, what a wicked web you weave.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Broseph_Stalin 09/08/17 4:25:22 PM #111:	There's that straw man army again. Time to do battle against reason. <cite>Broseph_Stalin posted [p:886259534] in British Mu... [t:75754542]...</cite> <quote>There's that straw man army again. Time to do battle against reason.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 09/08/17 4:27:10 PM #112:	Broseph_Stalin posted... There's that straw man army again. Time to do battle against reason. Islam IS a battle against reason. Otherwise we'd be in agreement that it as a set of beliefs is bad and the world is at best no better for having it, at worst far worse off. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:886259620] in British Mu... [t:75754542]...</cite> <quote><cite>Broseph_Stalin posted...</cite> <quote>There's that straw man army again. Time to do battle against reason.</quote> Islam IS a battle against reason. Otherwise we'd be in agreement that it as a set of beliefs is bad and the world is at best no better for having it, at worst far worse off.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Broseph_Stalin 09/08/17 4:29:22 PM #113:	Do you have any arguments that weren't made against the Irish or what? <cite>Broseph_Stalin posted [p:886259724] in British Mu... [t:75754542]...</cite> <quote>Do you have any arguments that weren't made against the Irish or what?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CarlGrimes 09/08/17 4:32:15 PM #114:	Hexenherz posted... CarlGrimes posted... Horus_Leftfield posted... Does it feel good to shit on a minority tc So two billion followers are a minority now? wat There are two billion muslims in the world. How is that a minority? --- You'll get a funeral if you don't wise up and call me....Carl Poppa. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9aM9Ch97U8 <cite>CarlGrimes posted [p:886259892] in British Mu... [t:75754542]...</cite> <quote><cite>Hexenherz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CarlGrimes posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Horus_Leftfield posted...</cite> <quote>Does it feel good to shit on a minority tc</quote> So two billion followers are a minority now?</quote> wat</quote> There are two billion muslims in the world. How is that a minority?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 09/08/17 4:32:43 PM #115:	Broseph_Stalin posted... Do you have any arguments that weren't made against the Irish or what? Lots, but I'm afraid you won't be able to grasp them since you seem unable to separate an ideology from race, which is why your counter to my criticism of a belief system is to compare it to racism against a nationality or skin color. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:886259924] in British Mu... [t:75754542]...</cite> <quote><cite>Broseph_Stalin posted...</cite> <quote>Do you have any arguments that weren't made against the Irish or what?</quote> Lots, but I'm afraid you won't be able to grasp them since you seem unable to separate an ideology from race, which is why your counter to my criticism of a belief system is to compare it to racism against a nationality or skin color.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Broseph_Stalin 09/08/17 4:35:08 PM #116:	I'm actually comparing the anti-Catholic sentiment to your anti-Muslim nonsense but that's not the first time you've failed to understand something simple itt. <cite>Broseph_Stalin posted [p:886260042] in British Mu... [t:75754542]...</cite> <quote>I'm actually comparing the anti-Catholic sentiment to your anti-Muslim nonsense but that's not the first time you've failed to understand something simple itt.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Piersons_Fox 09/08/17 4:36:31 PM #117:	Then don't go there. --- .../\_/\ ...\./ <cite>Piersons_Fox posted [p:886260107] in British Mu... [t:75754542]...</cite> <quote>Then don't go there.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChromaticAngel 09/08/17 4:37:47 PM #118:	Hexenherz posted... Anarchy_Juiblex posted... Hexenherz posted... The majority of Muslims in the country Think homosexuality should be criminalized. Ok? There are a lot of conservative Christian groups in a lot of Western countries that think it should be criminalized. No it's like 8 people in the WBC --- https://puu.sh/tcLsT/24f4611235.png <cite>ChromaticAngel posted [p:886260169] in British Mu... [t:75754542]...</cite> <quote><cite>Hexenherz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Hexenherz posted...</cite> <quote>The majority of Muslims in the country</quote> Think homosexuality should be criminalized.</quote> Ok? There are a lot of conservative Christian groups in a lot of Western countries that think it should be criminalized.</quote> No it's like 8 people in the WBC</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 09/08/17 4:37:48 PM #119:	Broseph_Stalin posted... I'm actually comparing the anti-Catholic sentiment to your anti-Muslim nonsense but that's not the first time you've failed to understand something simple itt. Broseph_Stalin posted... Even before the US was an independent country there was concern from the English speaking population about the Dutch and German settlers being too "foreign". The slave population couldn't be trusted with freedom. Irish and Italians would never integrate because of their Catholic beliefs. So are we just abandoning all the other things you mentioned? Because for someone who loves to claim others can't admit when they're wrong, you're doing a bang-up job of quietly pretending you didn't say all those other things. I mean, we can talk anti-catholic sentiment, too, but after you acknowledge you're wrong on all the other things you mentioned above, since you were so kind to insist that I admit that I was mistaken on the Ottoman empire before you went any further. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:886260171] in British Mu... [t:75754542]...</cite> <quote><cite>Broseph_Stalin posted...</cite> <quote>I'm actually comparing the anti-Catholic sentiment to your anti-Muslim nonsense but that's not the first time you've failed to understand something simple itt.</quote> <cite>Broseph_Stalin posted...</cite> <quote>Even before the US was an independent country there was concern from the English speaking population about the Dutch and German settlers being too "foreign". The slave population couldn't be trusted with freedom. Irish and Italians would never integrate because of their Catholic beliefs. </quote> So are we just abandoning all the other things you mentioned? Because for someone who loves to claim others can't admit when they're wrong, you're doing a bang-up job of quietly pretending you didn't say all those other things. I mean, we can talk anti-catholic sentiment, too, but after you acknowledge you're wrong on all the other things you mentioned above, since you were so kind to insist that I admit that I was mistaken on the Ottoman empire before you went any further.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Broseph_Stalin 09/08/17 4:41:05 PM #120:	It's really weird how people who discriminate based on religion always try to separate it from racism as if one is logical. <cite>Broseph_Stalin posted [p:886260344] in British Mu... [t:75754542]...</cite> <quote>It's really weird how people who discriminate based on religion always try to separate it from racism as if one is logical.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FaytlessHearts 09/08/17 4:43:07 PM #121:	They can pack their shit and leave :) problem solved. Everyone's happy. --- "To be forgotten is worse than death..." -Freya <cite>FaytlessHearts posted [p:886260429] in British Mu... [t:75754542]...</cite> <quote>They can pack their shit and leave :) problem solved. Everyone's happy.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kazi1212 09/08/17 4:47:39 PM #122:	Broseph_Stalin posted... It's really weird how people who discriminate based on religion always try to separate it from racism as if one is logical. A belief system which you want to live your life by is a choice. It is indeed different than nationality and race as you don't have a choice regarding the latter two --- I don't know my gimmick <cite>Kazi1212 posted [p:886260699] in British Mu... [t:75754542]...</cite> <quote><cite>Broseph_Stalin posted...</cite> <quote>It's really weird how people who discriminate based on religion always try to separate it from racism as if one is logical.</quote> A belief system which you want to live your life by is a choice. It is indeed different than nationality and race as you don't have a choice regarding the latter two</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 09/08/17 4:47:59 PM #123:	Broseph_Stalin posted... It's really weird how people who discriminate based on religion always try to separate it from racism as if one is logical. I think it's even weirder when faced with a situation where a minority group: 1. Has a slightly darker skin color (despite both being the same race) 2. Has cultural values that are incompatible with the majority That the only thing you think is relevant to their treatment is #1. You're doing the same separation you're complaining about, only in the less intelligent of the two directions. --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:886260711] in British Mu... [t:75754542]...</cite> <quote><cite>Broseph_Stalin posted...</cite> <quote>It's really weird how people who discriminate based on religion always try to separate it from racism as if one is logical.</quote> I think it's even weirder when faced with a situation where a minority group: 1. Has a slightly darker skin color (despite both being the same race) 2. Has cultural values that are incompatible with the majority That the only thing you think is relevant to their treatment is #1. You're doing the same separation you're complaining about, only in the less intelligent of the two directions.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Thompson 09/08/17 4:48:41 PM #124:	FaytlessHearts posted... They can pack their shit and leave :) problem solved. Everyone's happy. What about second or third generation immigrants? People who've never left the country they were born in? --- Sigs are rather pointless, except if it's to showcase animation and images. <cite>Thompson posted [p:886260758] in British Mu... [t:75754542]...</cite> <quote><cite>FaytlessHearts posted...</cite> <quote>They can pack their shit and leave :) problem solved. Everyone's happy.</quote> What about second or third generation immigrants? People who've never left the country they were born in?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CarlGrimes 09/08/17 4:48:52 PM #125:	Broseph_Stalin posted... It's really weird how people who discriminate based on religion always try to separate it from racism as if one is logical. How is it not? --- You'll get a funeral if you don't wise up and call me....Carl Poppa. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9aM9Ch97U8 <cite>CarlGrimes posted [p:886260770] in British Mu... [t:75754542]...</cite> <quote><cite>Broseph_Stalin posted...</cite> <quote>It's really weird how people who discriminate based on religion always try to separate it from racism as if one is logical.</quote> How is it not?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Broseph_Stalin 09/08/17 4:59:50 PM #126:	CarlGrimes posted... How is it not? Are you actually asking why discrimination isn't logical? Do I have to give you the literal definition? discrimination is treatment or consideration of, or making a distinction in favor of or against, a person based on the group, class, or category to which the person is perceived to belong rather than on individual attributes. <cite>Broseph_Stalin posted [p:886261386] in British Mu... [t:75754542]...</cite> <quote><cite>CarlGrimes posted...</cite> <quote>How is it not?</quote> Are you actually asking why discrimination isn't logical? Do I have to give you the literal definition? discrimination is treatment or consideration of, or making a distinction in favor of or against, a person based on the group, class, or category to which the person is perceived to belong rather than on individual attributes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CarlGrimes 09/08/17 6:20:36 PM #127:	Broseph_Stalin posted... CarlGrimes posted... How is it not? Are you actually asking why discrimination isn't logical? Do I have to give you the literal definition? discrimination is treatment or consideration of, or making a distinction in favor of or against, a person based on the group, class, or category to which the person is perceived to belong rather than on individual attributes. But a person doesn't choose their skin color, sex, or sexuality. They do choose their religion though, and some religions are very specific with how their followers must act and who they must be against. --- You'll get a funeral if you don't wise up and call me....Carl Poppa. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9aM9Ch97U8 <cite>CarlGrimes posted [p:886265559] in British Mu... [t:75754542]...</cite> <quote><cite>Broseph_Stalin posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CarlGrimes posted...</cite> <quote>How is it not?</quote> Are you actually asking why discrimination isn't logical? Do I have to give you the literal definition? discrimination is treatment or consideration of, or making a distinction in favor of or against, a person based on the group, class, or category to which the person is perceived to belong rather than on individual attributes.</quote> But a person doesn't choose their skin color, sex, or sexuality. They do choose their religion though, and some religions are very specific with how their followers must act and who they must be against.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Broseph_Stalin 09/08/17 6:42:26 PM #128:	CarlGrimes posted... and some religions are very specific with how their followers must act and who they must be against Too bad that's not at all how religion works in practice is it? <cite>Broseph_Stalin posted [p:886266831] in British Mu... [t:75754542]...</cite> <quote><cite>CarlGrimes posted...</cite> <quote>and some religions are very specific with how their followers must act and who they must be against</quote> Too bad that's not at all how religion works in practice is it?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vindris_SNH 09/08/17 6:45:42 PM #129:	Medz1206 posted... Why dont they move to a county that is majority muslium? --- glitteringfairy: Just build the damn wall ThyCorndog: and how exactly will that stop the mexican space program from orbital dropping illegal immigrants? <cite>Vindris_SNH posted [p:886266990] in British Mu... [t:75754542]...</cite> <quote><cite>Medz1206 posted...</cite> <quote>Why dont they move to a county that is majority muslium?</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChainedRedone 09/08/17 6:50:42 PM #130:	GunmaN1905 posted... Hexenherz posted... Anarchy_Juiblex posted... Hexenherz posted... The majority of Muslims in the country Think homosexuality should be criminalized. Ok? There are a lot of conservative Christian groups in a lot of Western countries that think it should be criminalized. What about women voting? What about sharia law? There are many Muslims that allow women to vote. Turkey enacted women's suffrage only a decade after the USA. And guess what, it didn't take mass demonstrations for them to allow it. Jesus Christ why are you Islamophobes so ignorant? --- David Mink. Hero. https://c1.staticflickr.com/7/6043/6337878059_009dd4c4f3_z.jpg <cite>ChainedRedone posted [p:886267232] in British Mu... [t:75754542]...</cite> <quote><cite>GunmaN1905 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Hexenherz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Hexenherz posted...</cite> <quote>The majority of Muslims in the country</quote> Think homosexuality should be criminalized.</quote> Ok? There are a lot of conservative Christian groups in a lot of Western countries that think it should be criminalized.</quote> What about women voting? What about sharia law?</quote> There are many Muslims that allow women to vote. Turkey enacted women's suffrage only a decade after the USA. And guess what, it didn't take mass demonstrations for them to allow it. Jesus Christ why are you Islamophobes so ignorant?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CarlGrimes 09/08/17 6:51:13 PM #131:	Broseph_Stalin posted... CarlGrimes posted... and some religions are very specific with how their followers must act and who they must be against Too bad that's not at all how religion works in practice is it? How does it not? These PEW polls show that is how is works. --- You'll get a funeral if you don't wise up and call me....Carl Poppa. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9aM9Ch97U8 <cite>CarlGrimes posted [p:886267263] in British Mu... [t:75754542]...</cite> <quote><cite>Broseph_Stalin posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CarlGrimes posted...</cite> <quote>and some religions are very specific with how their followers must act and who they must be against</quote> Too bad that's not at all how religion works in practice is it?</quote> How does it not? These PEW polls show that is how is works.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChainedRedone 09/08/17 6:58:35 PM #132:	The Admiral posted... That's definitely the case in a few of them, but that doesn't account for the vast majority. The Arab-Islamic world before the 11th century was incredibly prosperous and actually led the world in technology, mathematics, scientific achievements, architecture, and even art. Their civilization outperformed every country in Europe. And then that all died. I'm shock that the guy who thinks Chechnya is completely autonomous and Russia should be absolved of any responsibilities in Chechnya actually knows this. Quite impressive. --- David Mink. Hero. https://c1.staticflickr.com/7/6043/6337878059_009dd4c4f3_z.jpg <cite>ChainedRedone posted [p:886267646] in British Mu... [t:75754542]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>That's definitely the case in a few of them, but that doesn't account for the vast majority. The Arab-Islamic world before the 11th century was incredibly prosperous and actually led the world in technology, mathematics, scientific achievements, architecture, and even art. Their civilization outperformed every country in Europe. And then that all died. </quote> I'm shock that the guy who thinks Chechnya is completely autonomous and Russia should be absolved of any responsibilities in Chechnya actually knows this. Quite impressive.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 09/08/17 6:59:03 PM #133:	Hexenherz posted... Anarchy_Juiblex posted... Hexenherz posted... The majority of Muslims in the country Think homosexuality should be criminalized. Ok? There are a lot of conservative Christian groups in a lot of Western countries that think it should be criminalized. Should they be made to feel welcome for that belief? --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:886267669] in British Mu... [t:75754542]...</cite> <quote><cite>Hexenherz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Hexenherz posted...</cite> <quote>The majority of Muslims in the country</quote> Think homosexuality should be criminalized.</quote> Ok? There are a lot of conservative Christian groups in a lot of Western countries that think it should be criminalized.</quote> Should they be made to feel welcome for that belief?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Broseph_Stalin 09/08/17 6:59:50 PM #134:	CarlGrimes posted... How does it not? Are you trolling or do you actually believe there's complete conformity in religion of all things? It feels so weird even explaining this, some of you are so socially stunted. <cite>Broseph_Stalin posted [p:886267705] in British Mu... [t:75754542]...</cite> <quote><cite>CarlGrimes posted...</cite> <quote>How does it not?</quote> Are you trolling or do you actually believe there's complete conformity in religion of all things? It feels so weird even explaining this, some of you are so socially stunted.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChainedRedone 09/08/17 7:02:47 PM #135:	Mal_Fet posted... Hexenherz posted... Anarchy_Juiblex posted... Hexenherz posted... The majority of Muslims in the country Think homosexuality should be criminalized. Ok? There are a lot of conservative Christian groups in a lot of Western countries that think it should be criminalized. Should they be made to feel welcome for that belief? What kind of stupid question is that. Are you saying it's not their right to believe that? And to publicly support that belief? --- David Mink. Hero. https://c1.staticflickr.com/7/6043/6337878059_009dd4c4f3_z.jpg <cite>ChainedRedone posted [p:886267858] in British Mu... [t:75754542]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Hexenherz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Hexenherz posted...</cite> <quote>The majority of Muslims in the country</quote> Think homosexuality should be criminalized.</quote> Ok? There are a lot of conservative Christian groups in a lot of Western countries that think it should be criminalized.</quote> Should they be made to feel welcome for that belief?</quote> What kind of stupid question is that. Are you saying it's not their right to believe that? And to publicly support that belief?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 09/08/17 7:04:34 PM #136:	ChainedRedone posted... What kind of stupid question is that. Are you saying it's not their right to believe that? No, but then no one said muslims don't have the right to believe it either. The problem is that they don't feel "welcome". Feeling welcome isn't a right. --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:886267933] in British Mu... [t:75754542]...</cite> <quote><cite>ChainedRedone posted...</cite> <quote>What kind of stupid question is that. Are you saying it's not their right to believe that?</quote> No, but then no one said muslims don't have the right to believe it either. The problem is that they don't feel "welcome". Feeling welcome isn't a right.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChainedRedone 09/08/17 7:06:20 PM #137:	Mal_Fet posted... ChainedRedone posted... What kind of stupid question is that. Are you saying it's not their right to believe that? No, but then no one said muslims don't have the right to believe it either. The problem is that they don't feel "welcome". Feeling welcome isn't a right. So you're saying they don't have the right to express their feelings of being unwelcome? The fuck are you even trying to say? It sounds like you're triggered that they're stating their belief that they're being alienated. --- David Mink. Hero. https://c1.staticflickr.com/7/6043/6337878059_009dd4c4f3_z.jpg <cite>ChainedRedone posted [p:886268017] in British Mu... [t:75754542]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ChainedRedone posted...</cite> <quote>What kind of stupid question is that. Are you saying it's not their right to believe that?</quote> No, but then no one said muslims don't have the right to believe it either. The problem is that they don't feel "welcome". Feeling welcome isn't a right.</quote> So you're saying they don't have the right to express their feelings of being unwelcome? The fuck are you even trying to say? It sounds like you're triggered that they're stating their belief that they're being alienated.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CarlGrimes 09/08/17 7:12:50 PM #138:	Broseph_Stalin posted... Are you trolling or do you actually believe there's complete conformity in religion of all things? In religion in general, no. But there is a pretty big conformity in islam, except for who was the rightful heir to the warlord's throne. --- You'll get a funeral if you don't wise up and call me....Carl Poppa. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9aM9Ch97U8 <cite>CarlGrimes posted [p:886268336] in British Mu... [t:75754542]...</cite> <quote><cite>Broseph_Stalin posted...</cite> <quote>Are you trolling or do you actually believe there's complete conformity in religion of all things? </quote> In religion in general, no. But there is a pretty big conformity in islam, except for who was the rightful heir to the warlord's throne.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Broseph_Stalin 09/08/17 7:14:29 PM #139:	CarlGrimes posted... But there is a pretty big conformity in islam hahahahahaha <cite>Broseph_Stalin posted [p:886268424] in British Mu... [t:75754542]...</cite> <quote><cite>CarlGrimes posted...</cite> <quote>But there is a pretty big conformity in islam</quote> hahahahahaha</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 09/08/17 7:24:57 PM #140:	ChainedRedone posted... So you're saying they don't have the right to express their feelings of being unwelcome? Lol wow Show me where I suggested such a thing, you grammar school dropout --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:886268897] in British Mu... [t:75754542]...</cite> <quote><cite>ChainedRedone posted...</cite> <quote>So you're saying they don't have the right to express their feelings of being unwelcome? </quote> Lol wow Show me where I suggested such a thing, you grammar school dropout</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OEIO999 09/08/17 7:28:14 PM #141:	Pretty sure every Western country is islamophobic right now. <cite>OEIO999 posted [p:886269055] in British Mu... [t:75754542]...</cite> <quote>Pretty sure every Western country is islamophobic right now.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ModLogic 09/08/17 7:31:49 PM #142:	Hexenherz posted... s0nicfan posted... Hexenherz posted... That's not really a fair statement. The majority of Muslims in the country are trying to live a normal life there. They're literally not all terrorists and the majority of them don't condone terrorist attacks in countries that have taken them in. That's not really a fair statement. The majority of White Supremacists in the country are trying to live a normal life there. They're literally not all terrorists and the majority of them don't condone terrorist attacks in countries that have taken them in. That's an entirely false equivalency and if you can't see that you have a very immature childish view of the world and it would behoove you to study up on foreign politics and religion rather than comment on a video game message board on those topics which you clearly don't understand. http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/blogs/tim-blair/hell-get-to-that/news-story/b6b69f26f84f0ccf9cc89fdc9f3681cc --- http://i.imgur.com/hEL2qQYh.jpg http://i.imgur.com/lbSi0U3.png http://i.imgur.com/FA2GxDS.jpg http://i.imgur.com/xaRYKZM.png http://i.imgur.com/ZngbqJn.jpg <cite>ModLogic posted [p:886269232] in British Mu... [t:75754542]...</cite> <quote><cite>Hexenherz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Hexenherz posted...</cite> <quote>That's not really a fair statement. The majority of Muslims in the country are trying to live a normal life there. They're literally not all terrorists and the majority of them don't condone terrorist attacks in countries that have taken them in.</quote> That's not really a fair statement. The majority of White Supremacists in the country are trying to live a normal life there. They're literally not all terrorists and the majority of them don't condone terrorist attacks in countries that have taken them in.</quote> That's an entirely false equivalency and if you can't see that you have a very immature childish view of the world and it would behoove you to study up on foreign politics and religion rather than comment on a video game message board on those topics which you clearly don't understand.</quote> http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/blogs/tim-blair/hell-get-to-that/news-story/b6b69f26f84f0ccf9cc89fdc9f3681cc</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CarlGrimes 09/08/17 7:35:47 PM #143:	Broseph_Stalin posted... CarlGrimes posted... But there is a pretty big conformity in islam hahahahahaha Other than the argument about who was the heir to the warlord, what are they not in lock step about? --- You'll get a funeral if you don't wise up and call me....Carl Poppa. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9aM9Ch97U8 <cite>CarlGrimes posted [p:886269411] in British Mu... [t:75754542]...</cite> <quote><cite>Broseph_Stalin posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CarlGrimes posted...</cite> <quote>But there is a pretty big conformity in islam</quote> hahahahahaha</quote> Other than the argument about who was the heir to the warlord, what are they not in lock step about?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JcOpIVY86 09/08/17 8:45:45 PM #144:	Fine let's say Muslims are persecuted. Take it from the Christians and Jews.......tone your shit down. Lose the get up, wear maybe a Crescent Moon and star on a neckless and ADAPT. For yourselves, your family, and your people. --- Sometimes it's what you don't do that makes you who you are. http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y115/jckorn86/smallerbanner.jpg <cite>JcOpIVY86 posted [p:886272891] in British Mu... [t:75754542]...</cite> <quote>Fine let's say Muslims are persecuted. Take it from the Christians and Jews.......tone your shit down. Lose the get up, wear maybe a Crescent Moon and star on a neckless and ADAPT. For yourselves, your family, and your people.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trigg3rH4ppy 09/08/17 8:58:35 PM #145:	This topic is a thing yet I get warned for saying mean things about Nazis and making "violent suggestions" about what to do with them >_>. I mean I don't even like Islam whatsoever but it's not the people's fault that some assholes are hijacking their religion to use as a vehicle for recruitment and destruction. Come on now, some of you guys are sounding like clowns. --- ~A little nonsense, now and then, is relished by the wisest men ~ TWSSted since~ 3/27/12 https://i.imgur.com/zlaENmx.png <cite>Trigg3rH4ppy posted [p:886273500] in British Mu... [t:75754542]...</cite> <quote>This topic is a thing yet I get warned for saying mean things about Nazis and making "violent suggestions" about what to do with them >_>. I mean I don't even like Islam whatsoever but it's not the people's fault that some assholes are hijacking their religion to use as a vehicle for recruitment and destruction. Come on now, some of you guys are sounding like clowns.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CarlGrimes 09/08/17 9:50:42 PM #147:	Trigg3rH4ppy posted... I mean I don't even like Islam whatsoever but it's not the people's fault that some assholes are hijacking their religion to use as a vehicle for recruitment and destruction. Even if you take out the terrorism it is still a very oppressive religion that is not compatible with modern western civilization. --- You'll get a funeral if you don't wise up and call me....Carl Poppa. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9aM9Ch97U8 <cite>CarlGrimes posted [p:886275710] in British Mu... [t:75754542]...</cite> <quote><cite>Trigg3rH4ppy posted...</cite> <quote>I mean I don't even like Islam whatsoever but it's not the people's fault that some assholes are hijacking their religion to use as a vehicle for recruitment and destruction.</quote> Even if you take out the terrorism it is still a very oppressive religion that is not compatible with modern western civilization.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 09/08/17 9:59:19 PM #148:	JcOpIVY86 posted... Fine let's say Muslims are persecuted. Muslims aren't persecuted in the west. Telling people their ideology is awful is not persecution. In fact, the UK will sometimes go to GREAT LENGTHS to not prosecute even criminal muslims: http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-28939089 --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:886276065] in British Mu... [t:75754542]...</cite> <quote><cite>JcOpIVY86 posted...</cite> <quote>Fine let's say Muslims are persecuted. </quote> Muslims aren't persecuted in the west. Telling people their ideology is awful is not persecution. In fact, the UK will sometimes go to GREAT LENGTHS to not prosecute even criminal muslims: http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-28939089</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ModLogic 09/09/17 12:03:52 PM #149:	careful. dont wanna trigger that mod. --- http://i.imgur.com/hEL2qQYh.jpg http://i.imgur.com/lbSi0U3.png http://i.imgur.com/FA2GxDS.jpg http://i.imgur.com/xaRYKZM.png http://i.imgur.com/ZngbqJn.jpg <cite>ModLogic posted [p:886298847] in British Mu... [t:75754542]...</cite> <quote>careful. dont wanna trigger that mod.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hicks233 09/09/17 12:15:41 PM #150:	GunmaN1905 posted... Btw, what's with the liberals supporting muslims? Islam literally goes against every liberal idea. It's not Christianity. They'll support it as long as it destroys Christianity. It's all just circles of in-group preference. --- http://s2.excoboard.com/exco/index.php?boardid=9458 So says Mr. Stewart. <cite>Hicks233 posted [p:886299281] in British Mu... [t:75754542]...</cite> <quote><cite>GunmaN1905 posted...</cite> <quote>Btw, what's with the liberals supporting muslims? Islam literally goes against every liberal idea.</quote> It's not Christianity. They'll support it as long as it destroys Christianity. It's all just circles of in-group preference.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChainedRedone 09/09/17 12:38:51 PM #151:	CarlGrimes posted... Trigg3rH4ppy posted... I mean I don't even like Islam whatsoever but it's not the people's fault that some assholes are hijacking their religion to use as a vehicle for recruitment and destruction. Even if you take out the terrorism it is still a very oppressive religion that is not compatible with modern western civilization. What's so oppressive about Turkey? Did you know there are Muslim majority countries in Europe? Well, besides their very recent purge which goes against the history and founding of the Turkish Republic by Attaturk. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.2.2 <cite>ChainedRedone posted [p:886300209] in British Mu... [t:75754542]...</cite> <quote><cite>CarlGrimes posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Trigg3rH4ppy posted...</cite> <quote> I mean I don't even like Islam whatsoever but it's not the people's fault that some assholes are hijacking their religion to use as a vehicle for recruitment and destruction. </quote> Even if you take out the terrorism it is still a very oppressive religion that is not compatible with modern western civilization.</quote> What's so oppressive about Turkey? Did you know there are Muslim majority countries in Europe? Well, besides their very recent purge which goes against the history and founding of the Turkish Republic by Attaturk.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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