Board 8 > Save My Favorite Final Fantasy Characters XIX: Day 30 [smfffc]

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th3l3fty posted...

VeryInsane posted...

Oh who am I kidding I can't beat lefty and his crazy dealhouse

I wish I had a crazy dealhouse

nobody was more surprised by last year's placement than I was!

and to think you sold your soul because you thought that was the only way
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VeryInsane posted...

swordz9 posted...

VeryInsane posted...

Keep hating Cecil it'll make him last longer IMO

Not really. Hasn't worked for Terra and Cecil constantly performs well. It would be a shock if he placed below like 30 which might not even be the lowest he has ever placed. He's so consistent it's boring

it's almost like he's lightning

I hope Lightning can keep placing well for another 12 years, but Cecil will too unless l3ftybot leaves if the board is even still around then.

even if I left the board I would return just to make sure things didn't go south

(of top 50%)
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LeonhartFour posted...

th3l3fty posted...

VeryInsane posted...

Oh who am I kidding I can't beat lefty and his crazy dealhouse

I wish I had a crazy dealhouse

nobody was more surprised by last year's placement than I was!

and to think you sold your soul because you thought that was the only way

Lefty has long been a good friend. Of anyone he is the least sell souled
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I don't hate Terra, but she's behind Edgar Sabin and Setzer at least.

And things have to get really bad before I start saving FFVI.
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fun fact lefty already left the board a decade ago and never came back
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i've heard stories that leftybot is actually a third generation robot.

tre programmed luster who programmed lefty
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Hell yeah good result
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I don't really hate Cecil or Terra. I just think both are really really boring

71. IWANTTOBEYOURSTATS

CII - 13/45
CIII - 31/50
CIV - 17/55
CV - 41/60
CVI - 34/65
CVII - 11/70
CVIII - 4/75
CIX - 3/75
CX - 23/75
CXI - 17/75
CXII - 26/75
CXIII - 18/75
CXIV - 52/102
CXV - 51/100
CXVI - 27/100
CXVII - 30/100
CXVIII - 28/100
CXIX - 71/100

This is Dagger's worst finish ever, whether by raw numbers or percentage. Even when she doesn't get a high placement, she's rarely far below the middle of the pack. She has eight top 25 finishes (five of those consecutive), including back to back top 5 finishes. Dagger is also one of the rare characters with multiple top 5s who has never made a final. She hasn't had a top 25 finish since CXIII though. Regardless, her STATS are very good, so this one hurts a bit. With this performance, Dagger drops from 68.07% to 65.95%, sliding past Auron and Edgar to land at 18th place, narrowly ahead of Tifa.

Her numbers in the New Era aren't quite as good. There, she falls from 63.60% to 58.00% even, dropping past Hope, Faris, Laguna, Terra, Jecht, and Rinoa to land at 30th place.
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I mentioned that Dagger was one of the few characters with multiple top 5 finishes who's never made a final. There are nine overall, seven of which have two top 5s. They are Kain, Laguna, Selphie, Freya, Dagger, Yuna, and Delita.

The bonus trivia question for today is: Who are the two characters with more than two top 5 finishes who have never made a final?
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I can kind of see that. I don't think Terra is that boring until WOR when her plot goes pretty downhill super fast (But so do a whole bunch of plotlines in FFVI) but I can see why people think Cecil is kinda vanilla. I admit part of why I like him a lot is because FFIV was my first mainline FF game and I actually like the simplistic storyline of dark knight finds guilt in his actions, and tries to redeem himself best he can while also unveiling a fiendish plot. The game ends up being an epic adventure in scope as he traverses through the world, the underworld, and even the moon to set things right in his kingdom. It just doesn't seem big cause a lot of JRPGs have kinda made their plots way more complex in comparison and larger in areas such as character development so it seems like Cecil is kinda basic in comparison. But I think basic works well in the frame and storytelling that Square was trying to do in FFIV.

Granted, I haven't replayed it in a long while and maybe I deserve to see if my feelings are just rose-tinted nostalgia or not but I think FFIV has surprisingly a lot of depth within it and a lot of novel ideas in the JRPG genre
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LeonhartFour posted...

I mentioned that Dagger was one of the few characters with multiple top 5 finishes who's never made a final. There are nine overall, seven of which have two top 5s. They are Kain, Laguna, Selphie, Freya, Dagger, Yuna, and Delita.

The bonus trivia question for today is: Who are the two characters with more than two top 5 finishes who have never made a final?

I think one is Rikku?
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This is sad, but I'll definitely prioritize Garnet someday. Maybe even next year, depending on who wins this year! I just don't think FFIX has a chance at another victory so soon after Steiner/Vivi so Garnet had to wait
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Laguna had like three 4s or something
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ecksgem posted...

I think one is Rikku?

Correct. Rikku has three top 5s. The other character has 4.
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VeryInsane posted...

I can kind of see that. I don't think Terra is that boring until WOR when her plot goes pretty downhill super fast (But so do a whole bunch of plotlines in FFVI) but I can see why people think Cecil is kinda vanilla. I admit part of why I like him a lot is because FFIV was my first mainline FF game and I actually like the simplistic storyline of dark knight finds guilt in his actions, and tries to redeem himself best he can while also unveiling a fiendish plot. The game ends up being an epic adventure in scope as he traverses through the world, the underworld, and even the moon to set things right in his kingdom. It just doesn't seem big cause a lot of JRPGs have kinda made their plots way more complex in comparison and larger in areas such as character development so it seems like Cecil is kinda basic in comparison. But I think basic works well in the frame and storytelling that Square was trying to do in FFIV.

Granted, I haven't replayed it in a long while and maybe I deserve to see if my feelings are just rose-tinted nostalgia or not but I think FFIV has surprisingly a lot of depth within it and a lot of novel ideas in the JRPG genre

This is pretty much my thought process too. I think IV's strength lies in its simplicity. It's almost refreshing to play a game that doesn't bombard you with complicated lore and over the top plot twists.
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FFDragon posted...

Laguna had like three 4s or something

Nah, Laguna went 6, 6, 3, 6, which is ridiculously impressive in its own right.
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Ah yeah, that was what I was thinking.
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VeryInsane posted...

I don't think Terra is that boring until WOR when her plot goes pretty downhill super fast

But Terra and the orphans was literally the best part of her character arc!
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I looked at all the results and I didn't notice anyone other than Rikku?
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Oh wait, nevermind.

It is just Rikku. Forgot Terra actually did make a final once. She just didn't win.

'whoops'
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And the best final, at that
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That was the final that put raytan on the sith path imo
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4 top 5s without a final? hmm, would have said locke before last contest.
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oh nevermind, I see this was addressed
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Mobilezoid posted...

VeryInsane posted...

I don't think Terra is that boring until WOR when her plot goes pretty downhill super fast

But Terra and the orphans was literally the best part of her character arc!

what the f-

goddammit roba
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It wouldn't surprise me if this is the year Rikku has Yunabyherside
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VeryInsane posted...

It wouldn't surprise me if this is the year Rikku has Yunabyherside

are you predicting early eliminations for both of them
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days 31 and 32
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VeryInsane posted...

Actually the real person to blame is Nanis

Actually the real person to blame is the one that made Discord
The amount of times I don't get the notification is insane
Well, shit
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It really does suck but there isn't really anyone to blame, so what can I do
Thanks for supporting her like always Roba and Wolf (and whoever else) hope next year will be better
No idea what to priority next
Vivi? won't win again but I can try to get him as far as possible
Zidane? yeah probably
Don't really care about any other IX character
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surprise double round day
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I'm still trying to make sure Vivi gets a respectable follow up year so I appreciate any help
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It was you and Karo who carried Dagger, Nanis. I barely saved her this year. Maybe next year we can try to give her a real run, too!
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I could maybe support Beatrix or Amarant at some point in the future but can't imagine much else from FFIX
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I like FFIX but B8 makes it hard for me to ever support it
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VeryInsane posted...

I could maybe support Amarant

How?

...Why?
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That too. Fandom is just crazy and they're essentially the New England Patriots of this contest
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Only one from IX I save is Vivi and I'll occasionally consider Freya and Zidane
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I think Bane and Nanis should save Vivi, Freya and Zidane from now on.
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bane and nanis should save Layle just to get back at everyone
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Mobilezoid posted...

VeryInsane posted...

I could maybe support Amarant

How?

...Why?

He's got a good look, solid skillset, and is a jack of all trades kind of character.

Plus I would enjoy confusing the populace with a WTF big run
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Like, he's basically Akuma who can throw ninja stars and shit

how cool is that
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Kuja and Quina are the only FFIX characters worth supporting tbqh
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Like I like Vivi/Zidane/Kuja/Steiner too but they already won so...

Gotta give other characters a chance to shine!
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LeonhartFour posted...

and FFIX loses its first

good round
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VeryInsane posted...

Like I like Vivi/Zidane/Kuja/Steiner too but they already won so...

Gotta give other characters a chance to shine!

So time to gun for the Freya win that FFD still owes me.
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You know Inviso, FF9 has 5 wins...

FFT has this many:
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Most of FFIX's playable cast is at least decent. Amarant's okay in my book despite the fact that he's relevant for all of one scene.
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