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FLUFFYGERM
09/18/17 11:01:12 AM
#152:


nazism is evil so i won't cry if a nazi gets punched

the problem is that the left calls even people like Ben Shapiro nazis

even though Ben Shapiro is a Jew

so basically the left is quickly going down a road where they're justifying violence against anyone they can deem a nazi, rather than against anyone who actually is a nazi. and that's a dangerous road to go down.
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TheBiggerWiggle
09/18/17 11:01:34 AM
#153:


Did that guy lose a tooth? I'm at work so I had to watch this on my phone, but at about 5/6 seconds you see something tiny fall through the air right after the guy gets punched.
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Mal_Fet
09/18/17 11:01:42 AM
#154:


Zodd3224 posted...
To say he is supporting Nazis is hyperbole. He is strongly conservative and blames everything on the left though. And the guy calling him a Nazi supporter is the vice versa.

Mostly I'm anti-authoritarian, which is a trait both Nazis and the left share.
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BLAKUboy
09/18/17 11:01:50 AM
#156:


Omega Hunter posted...
When did people become such cowards that this mantra of violence is never the answer has become some basic fact of the universe. Violence has always been and will always be an answer. Thats why we have a standing army, for violence. Thats why we have patrolling police. Hell the reason Nazism ever did the damage it did to this world was because people were too scared to resort to violence against an increasingly militarist Germany, see appeasement and Nazi Germany.

Why did our founding fathers include in the constitution the people have a right to bear arms...for violence. There will always be a time and a place for violence. The only discussion is on when its warranted, so please stop with the bullshit violence is always wrong. Violence can be just.

I for one think stopping nazis from spreading their hatred and genocidal views, even using violence is always just. Everyone who died fighting in WWII would look down and smile, never forget.

This post will be conveniently ignored.
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MikeArmstrong
09/18/17 11:03:29 AM
#157:


TheBiggerWiggle posted...
Did that guy lose a tooth? I'm at work so I had to watch this on my phone, but at about 5/6 seconds you see something tiny fall through the air right after the guy gets punched.

Holy shit, I just looked back and saw that too. Dude got knocked the fuck out.
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Tezlok
09/18/17 11:04:22 AM
#158:


BLAKUboy posted...
This post will be conveniently ignored.

not ignored. I read it. I just don't agree with it. I think he's wrong.
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Blue_Inigo
09/18/17 11:05:06 AM
#159:


Mal_Fet posted...
DemonBuffet posted...
Punch a pussy nazi!

Fuck yeah!

Nazism calls for genocide and oppression of millions!
You must eliminate the threat at its root!

"Ya know, I was in support of cleansing this earth of the non-white races and all other degenerates, but then I got punched by one. Maybe I should reconsider my views on genociding them."

^ This is how leftists believe people think

@Asherlee10

How is this not defending Nazis? What kind of scumbag makes a post like this?
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Vindris_SNH
09/18/17 11:05:41 AM
#160:


That_Happened posted...
Vindris_SNH posted...
He got exactly what he wanted. Now he and his Nazi buddies have a great video to watch that will roust their Nazi friends. This could be their call to action. Violence engenders violence.

Tezlok posted...
Nazis will NEVER take over america. the exact situation that allowed for it in Germany isn't possible in America. The people who try to make you afraid and say you need to be ready to fight at a moment's notice, are lying.

If what Tezlok says is correct, then I don't see the harm in punching Nazis other than that individual going to jail. If Nazism is never going to be a problem in America, no matter what, then fuck them. Blast them in the face with a well timed punch if you want, or try to talk them down if you prefer that manner, or record them and ruin them on social media. It all ends the same way: Nazis aren't going to win.


I'm saying there is a possibility this video will anger Nazis, and there might be a few cases of violence from them inflicted on the public because some guy decided to punch a Nazi.

The other poster is saying there's no way Nazis will ever take over America.

This issue isn't about Nazis taking over America, because Tezlok is correct; that will never happen. The issue is about people condoning violence against Neo-Nazis, which is an issue because, in the end, there is nothing good that can come of violence against these people. They will fight back. Again: violence engenders violence.
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NINExATExSEVEN
09/18/17 11:06:04 AM
#161:


NINExATExSEVEN posted...
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
Looks like I'm correct.


KKK =/= Nazis
I feel like you were already aware of that and had already multiple times argued that. Remember, "Nazi doesn't just mean someone you disagree with."


How do we deal with the situation though? Let's be real here. The rise of the far left caused a counter rise of the far right. You have communists and Nazis now in America.

How do we stop them both?

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Mal_Fet
09/18/17 11:07:36 AM
#163:


BLAKUboy posted...
This post will be conveniently ignored.

Yes, because it's bullshit. Actual Nazis, that is, members of the National Socialist party of Nazi Germany, were not attacked hy anybody until they invaded Poland. Further, their hateful rhetoric was born from a bad deal through the treaty of Versailles and a centuries-old resentment of the Jews propagated by the Vatican.

To say the Neo-Nazis of today are no different than the Nazis of WWII betrays an astounding lack of education
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Blue_Inigo
09/18/17 11:07:52 AM
#164:


The solution is simple. Make a law stating Nazism is a hate crime. Outlaw openly supporting it. There's no defending a belief system that advocates the extinction of other ethnicities.
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MLGSerperior111
09/18/17 11:08:19 AM
#165:


MikeArmstrong posted...
Assault is bad, but you can't say he wasn't asking for it.

But, instead let's wait for people who only defend the Nazi.

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DreadedWave
09/18/17 11:08:35 AM
#166:


Vindris_SNH posted...
I'm saying there is a possibility this video will anger Nazis, and there might be a few cases of violence from them inflicted on the public because some guy decided to punch a Nazi.

Actually the real issue is every time someone "punches a nazi" they can just point at the video and say "See, look we're not the violent ones"
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FaultyGourry
09/18/17 11:08:37 AM
#167:


Mal_Fet posted...
FaultyGourry posted...
This is a good point, though it's still really fucked up we live in such a litigious system that would reward shitty people for instigation.

He was literally just sitting on a bus.

No first world court would find the assailant not guilty


"They were literally just holding up signs at a funeral!" Come on, Mal. Even you have to admit wearing a nazi armband is not socially acceptable and is obviously going to draw negative attention. And by the by, we were talking about civil cases, not criminal.
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Blue_Inigo
09/18/17 11:09:26 AM
#168:


FaultyGourry posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
FaultyGourry posted...
This is a good point, though it's still really fucked up we live in such a litigious system that would reward shitty people for instigation.

He was literally just sitting on a bus.

No first world court would find the assailant not guilty


"They were literally just holding up signs at a funeral!" Come on, Mal. Even you have to admit wearing a nazi armband is not socially acceptable and is obviously going to draw negative attention. And by the by, we were talking about civil cases, not criminal.

@Asherlee10
Here's another example of Mal defending Nazis.
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giantblimpN7
09/18/17 11:09:41 AM
#169:


Blue_Inigo posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
DemonBuffet posted...
Punch a pussy nazi!

Fuck yeah!

Nazism calls for genocide and oppression of millions!
You must eliminate the threat at its root!

"Ya know, I was in support of cleansing this earth of the non-white races and all other degenerates, but then I got punched by one. Maybe I should reconsider my views on genociding them."

^ This is how leftists believe people think

@Asherlee10

How is this not defending Nazis? What kind of scumbag makes a post like this?

Punching a piece of shit doesn't make them not a piece of shit anymore. That said, can't say I feel sorry for the fucker.
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HippopotamusRex
09/18/17 11:10:07 AM
#170:


That_Happened posted...
NINExATExSEVEN posted...
So then if there was someone cosplaying SS regalia, you wouldn't punch them right? It's just cosplay?

Correct. If someone is clearly just pretending to be a character for the purpose of a very-clearly-outlined festival of some sort, and it's in the context you mentioned, then there's no reason to be alarmed.


This is why you will lose this culture war. Nobody gives a damn what your subjective definition of 'clearly pretending' is in order to skirt around being punched. Everyone has their own sorting mechanisms for which contexts are pushing the envelope but are still satirical, and which are over the line. Society isn't playing this game where if one person's algorithm deems something over the line to that person then it's justified to hit them. There's too many damn people in the world to play that game. If there's even a chance that this was satire to troll people, then the intention wasn't genuine hatred. It was to mock. And someone bit. That person will go to jail where they belong. What is a threshold of clear intent to you isn't the same threshold for everyone else. And when society devolves into not offending anyone because of their magical 'clearly pretending clearly defined' role in your neat little box in your head, then EVERYONE's threshold for tolerance will automatically drop to 0 over time because over the course of many interactions people will gradually get punched for stupider and stupider reasons. Then you'll really have your violence. Do try this though in the real world and I hope you go to jail for it where you belong. The issue isn't that this guy is cosplaying as a nazi to piss people off, the issue as with all topics like this is the broader discussion that it brings up about where society is headed. And the problem ain't nazis. Sorry. Nazis are the fly in the ointment. Your ideology is the log of shit in the ointment.
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BLAKUboy
09/18/17 11:10:33 AM
#171:


DreadedWave posted...
"See, look [Nazis are] not the violent ones"

History disagrees.
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Zodd3224
09/18/17 11:10:47 AM
#173:


DreadedWave posted...
Vindris_SNH posted...
I'm saying there is a possibility this video will anger Nazis, and there might be a few cases of violence from them inflicted on the public because some guy decided to punch a Nazi.

Actually the real issue is every time someone "punches a nazi" they can just point at the video and say "See, look we're not the violent ones"

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thelovefist
09/18/17 11:10:56 AM
#174:


Blue_Inigo posted...
FaultyGourry posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
FaultyGourry posted...
This is a good point, though it's still really fucked up we live in such a litigious system that would reward shitty people for instigation.

He was literally just sitting on a bus.

No first world court would find the assailant not guilty


"They were literally just holding up signs at a funeral!" Come on, Mal. Even you have to admit wearing a nazi armband is not socially acceptable and is obviously going to draw negative attention. And by the by, we were talking about civil cases, not criminal.

Asherlee10
Here's another example of Mal defending Nazis.


You have shockingly terrible reading comprehension if that is what you took away from his post.
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Blue_Inigo
09/18/17 11:11:41 AM
#176:


giantblimpN7 posted...
Blue_Inigo posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
DemonBuffet posted...
Punch a pussy nazi!

Fuck yeah!

Nazism calls for genocide and oppression of millions!
You must eliminate the threat at its root!

"Ya know, I was in support of cleansing this earth of the non-white races and all other degenerates, but then I got punched by one. Maybe I should reconsider my views on genociding them."

^ This is how leftists believe people think

@Asherlee10

How is this not defending Nazis? What kind of scumbag makes a post like this?

Punching a piece of shit doesn't make them not a piece of shit anymore. That said, can't say I feel sorry for the fucker.

A piece of shit will realize he's being a piece of shit once he's been punched. It's like when a kid learns not to touch a hot stove after touching the hot stove.

I doubt that dumbass Nazi is going to do that shit again.
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Mal_Fet
09/18/17 11:12:45 AM
#177:


FaultyGourry posted...
"They were literally just holding up signs at a funeral!"

Not acceptable to assault WBC members either.
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Dustin1280
09/18/17 11:13:00 AM
#179:


Realistically, the fact that he got punched out and very possibly lost a tooth in the process will be enough to convince him not to wear that armband in public going forward.
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Vindris_SNH
09/18/17 11:13:23 AM
#180:


Apparently some people here can't be reasoned with.

My entire point is that punching people for what they believe will never give you a positive result in the end. I'm going to say this once more: violence engenders violence
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BLAKUboy
09/18/17 11:14:21 AM
#181:


Vindris_SNH posted...
Apparently some people here can't be reasoned with.

Yes, it's a shame your ilk are such trolls.
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Zodd3224
09/18/17 11:14:36 AM
#182:


Blue_Inigo posted...
giantblimpN7 posted...
Blue_Inigo posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
DemonBuffet posted...
Punch a pussy nazi!

Fuck yeah!

Nazism calls for genocide and oppression of millions!
You must eliminate the threat at its root!

"Ya know, I was in support of cleansing this earth of the non-white races and all other degenerates, but then I got punched by one. Maybe I should reconsider my views on genociding them."

^ This is how leftists believe people think

@Asherlee10

How is this not defending Nazis? What kind of scumbag makes a post like this?

Punching a piece of shit doesn't make them not a piece of shit anymore. That said, can't say I feel sorry for the fucker.

A piece of shit will realize he's being a piece of shit once he's been punched. It's like when a kid learns not to touch a hot stove after touching the hot stove.

I doubt that dumbass Nazi is going to do that shit again.


You are so wrong.

He may not be dumb enough to wear the armband again in public (maybe) but if anything he is going to be more determined and will have a sob story to share with people about how he was brutalized for expressing his beliefs. May even recruit a borderline person or two with that.
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lww99
09/18/17 11:14:43 AM
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Mal_Fet
09/18/17 11:14:49 AM
#184:


Blue_Inigo posted...
A piece of shit will realize he's being a piece of shit once he's been punched. It's like when a kid learns not to touch a hot stove after touching the hot stove.

Question: if you kept getting punched by people who disagree with your politics, would you learn that your politics are bad? Like a kid who keeps touching a hot stove?

If not, why would you expect this guy will react differently?
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_Near_
09/18/17 11:15:09 AM
#185:


> Reason #235 why publicly displaying Nazi propaganda should be illegal
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Blue_Inigo
09/18/17 11:15:11 AM
#186:


thelovefist posted...
Blue_Inigo posted...
FaultyGourry posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
FaultyGourry posted...
This is a good point, though it's still really fucked up we live in such a litigious system that would reward shitty people for instigation.

He was literally just sitting on a bus.

No first world court would find the assailant not guilty


"They were literally just holding up signs at a funeral!" Come on, Mal. Even you have to admit wearing a nazi armband is not socially acceptable and is obviously going to draw negative attention. And by the by, we were talking about civil cases, not criminal.

Asherlee10
Here's another example of Mal defending Nazis.


You have shockingly terrible reading comprehension if that is what you took away from his post.

Imagine thinking going out in public wearing an emblem that for all intents and purposes asks for you to die isn't threatening, malicious, hateful, or instigating.

It's the equivalent to you walking down a street in LA with a sign that says "Death to all (redacted)"
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MikeArmstrong
09/18/17 11:16:01 AM
#187:


Mal_Fet posted...
Blue_Inigo posted...
A piece of shit will realize he's being a piece of shit once he's been punched. It's like when a kid learns not to touch a hot stove after touching the hot stove.

Question: if you kept getting punched by people who disagree with your politics, would you learn that your politics are bad? Like a kid who keeps touching a hot stove?

If not, why would you expect this guy well react differently?

Tbh most people would stop advocating for whatever they believe if they kept getting punched everytime they talked about it.
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MLGSerperior111
09/18/17 11:16:02 AM
#188:


Mal_Fet posted...
I wonder what the "punchin Nazis yaaaas" crowd believes is the result of assaulting Nazis like this. Yes Nazis are scum, but will punching them make them less of a Nazi? If YOU got suckerpunched by someone with opposing political views, would you go "yeah, you know what? Maybe I should adopt my assailants politics." Is he more likely or less likely to drive a car through a liberal protest after getting punched by one?

Exactly what had been accomplished here?

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Master Kazuya
09/18/17 11:16:05 AM
#189:


josifrees posted...
Glad a white dude knocked his ass out

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DreadedWave
09/18/17 11:16:22 AM
#190:


Dustin1280 posted...
Realistically, the fact that he got punched out and very possibly lost a tooth in the process will be enough to convince him not to wear that armband in public going forward.

So? He'll still be a nazi.

BLAKUboy posted...
Vindris_SNH posted...
Apparently some people here can't be reasoned with.

Yes, it's a shame your ilk are such trolls.

It must be nice to just place everyone who thinks differently into neat labelled boxes.
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FaultyGourry
09/18/17 11:16:48 AM
#192:


Mal_Fet posted...
FaultyGourry posted...
"They were literally just holding up signs at a funeral!"

Not acceptable to assault WBC members either.

No shit. Being rewarded for trying to get others to assault you so you can sue them isn't acceptable either, which is what we were talking about. You'd know this if you actually read what people were posting instead of being in full attack mode.
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Nazanir
09/18/17 11:17:28 AM
#194:


averagejoel posted...
YourDrunkFather posted...
averagejoel posted...
Asherlee10 posted...
Was the guy that got punched inciting violence?

nazism is an inherently violent ideology. subscribing to the ideology is violent. wearing the symbol of nazi germany is violent


No matter how many times you say this dumb shit it's never gonna be true. Violence is violence. Wearing a fucking armband is not violence.

violence isn't exclusively physical

https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/violence

Behaviour involving physical force intended to hurt, damage, or kill someone or something.

So, the Oxford dictionary is wrong?
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BLAKUboy
09/18/17 11:17:53 AM
#195:


DreadedWave posted...
It must be nice to just place everyone who thinks differently into neat labelled boxes.

It makes it easier to laugh at you, that's for sure.
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Master Kazuya
09/18/17 11:18:06 AM
#196:


The only thing that worries me is some kind of uprising/rebellion from the nazi crew against innocents.
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Mal_Fet
09/18/17 11:18:28 AM
#198:


MikeArmstrong posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
Blue_Inigo posted...
A piece of shit will realize he's being a piece of shit once he's been punched. It's like when a kid learns not to touch a hot stove after touching the hot stove.

Question: if you kept getting punched by people who disagree with your politics, would you learn that your politics are bad? Like a kid who keeps touching a hot stove?

If not, why would you expect this guy well react differently?

Tbh most people would stop advocating for whatever they believe if they kept getting punched everytime they talked about it.

Even if that were the case, they would certainly become a lot more inclined to do something like drive a car through a group of the people who keep punching him.
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Blue_Inigo
09/18/17 11:18:29 AM
#199:


Zodd3224 posted...
Blue_Inigo posted...
giantblimpN7 posted...
Blue_Inigo posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
DemonBuffet posted...
Punch a pussy nazi!

Fuck yeah!

Nazism calls for genocide and oppression of millions!
You must eliminate the threat at its root!

"Ya know, I was in support of cleansing this earth of the non-white races and all other degenerates, but then I got punched by one. Maybe I should reconsider my views on genociding them."

^ This is how leftists believe people think

@Asherlee10

How is this not defending Nazis? What kind of scumbag makes a post like this?

Punching a piece of shit doesn't make them not a piece of shit anymore. That said, can't say I feel sorry for the fucker.

A piece of shit will realize he's being a piece of shit once he's been punched. It's like when a kid learns not to touch a hot stove after touching the hot stove.

I doubt that dumbass Nazi is going to do that shit again.


You are so wrong.

He may not be dumb enough to wear the armband again in public (maybe) but if anything he is going to be more determined and will have a sob story to share with people about how he was brutalized for expressing his beliefs. May even recruit a borderline person or two with that.

You give these pieces of shit too much credit. A lot of them are attention seeking, weak willed imbeciles who think they can do what they like consequence free because they haven't been opposed yet. Many change their ways once they touch the stove.

Of course, there are some who keep touching the stove. Eventually they learn too.
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Vindris_SNH
09/18/17 11:18:39 AM
#200:


@BLAKUboy posted...
Vindris_SNH posted...
Apparently some people here can't be reasoned with.

Yes, it's a shame your ilk are such trolls.


How exactly am I trolling in this thread?
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