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Tezlok
09/18/17 12:02:31 PM
#301:


Malcolm_Matar posted...
Tezlok posted...
Also there is nothing progressive about wanting to take away free speech. I'm not the regressive one

You stand up for racism. You want to take the country back to the 1950s. You're fucking regressive dude.

It's like talking to a brick wall. You ignored my other post. You are wrong.
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Zeeak4444
09/18/17 12:02:58 PM
#302:


Malcolm_Matar posted...
We're never going to come together dude. Your side had the choice to vote for a moderate centrist Democrat or a demagogic racist. You criminalized the centrist Democrat and voted for the racist. Then you stole a SCOTUS seat that wasn't yours on top of it.

I'm pretty sure we're way beyond coming together at this point. Y'all think you're the reasonable ones, but you're not. The truth is, your sick ideology needs to defeated and your party needs to be destroyed.

If you want to banish anti white narratives, start with Fox News.

HEAR HEAR! 10 out of 10 post. Call us both ROD alts if you want but this guy gets it.


Lmao. As stupid as the alt-right.
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Bishop9800
09/18/17 12:03:10 PM
#303:


Can we get a count of all the people who are crying over this Nazis getting punched?
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NINExATExSEVEN
09/18/17 12:03:26 PM
#304:


Can we at least agree that we need to punch communist like Antifa who wave the hammer and sickle flag?
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DifferentialEquation
09/18/17 12:05:37 PM
#305:


Blue_Inigo posted...
Nah, I'm right. Fuck Nazis. They want people dead. You'd understand if you were the one they wanted dead but you don't understand. That's fine. Just know that punching a Nazi is not wrong


How do you know she's not in a group that's hated by Nazis?
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Horus_Leftfield
09/18/17 12:05:42 PM
#306:


NINExATExSEVEN posted...
Can we at least agree that we need to punch communist like Antifa who wave the hammer and sickle flag?

No. They aren't on the same level as Nazis. There is no moral equivalence there.
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LordTrinen
09/18/17 12:06:48 PM
#307:


This guy was an idiot who ultimately got what was coming to him for wearing that armband in a public place in this political climate. But it does speak to a larger, brewing problem.

People advocate punching Nazis because they are racists, support fascism and encourage violence. In my experience these things also apply to Antifa. Despite their name, they generally employ fascist tactics to silence dissenters, regularly encourage violence and various forms of racism. Would I be in my rights to sucker punch an Antifa member to stop their hateful rhetoric? No. It violates their freedom of speech, it's assault and it would only embolden other Antifa members.

Those who question what I say about Antifa, try looking up an incident at an Antifa protest to counter what they claimed was a White Supremacist rally in Boston, I think. A white guy with a bald head showed up at the protest and Antifa people starting ripping into him, calling him a Nazi and ultimately sucker punching him before he had a chance to say anything. Afterwards it came out that he was a member of Antifa. Though I suspect he wasn't after that day.

That video doesn't show the full encounter so I don't know if the Nazi said anything to help provoke his attack. Now if the Nazis ever unite and rise up to fight like they did in WW2 then by all means let us rise up to fight back. But right now, they are just words. And words only have power if you give them power. Stuff like this only threatens to give them more power and attention than they deserve.
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Nazanir
09/18/17 12:07:15 PM
#308:


Dustin1280 posted...
BLAKUboy posted...
Dustin1280 posted...
Not sure anyone in this topic is sympathetic to the nazi, pretty sure everyone feels at least a tiny bit of satisfaction from watching the nazi get his ass knocked out.

That's a weird thing to say when the usual suspects have been very clearly defending the Nazi.

Saying that punching the nazi was the wrong thing to do and was assault is 100% accurate, it's not "defending" the nazi.

This is why identity politics need to die.
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RickyTheBAWSE
09/18/17 12:07:32 PM
#309:


NINExATExSEVEN posted...
Can we at least agree that we need to punch communist like Antifa who wave the hammer and sickle flag?


not that I'm saying it's okay to punch Nazis, but this is definitely a false equivalent
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Mal_Fet
09/18/17 12:08:32 PM
#310:


MikeArmstrong posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
MikeArmstrong posted...
@Mal_Fet show me where in this topic I said it was ok to punch someone.

So you agree with me then. People who assault others deserve to get sued.

Yes, if they assault someone who hasn't attacked them first.

Now, by your logic, Donald is a piece of shit who should get sued for advocating assault.

Obviously.
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BootyGif
09/18/17 12:08:48 PM
#311:


I love how no one talks about some piece of shit wearing the nazi armband, and just the dude that regulates on him.
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Nazanir
09/18/17 12:09:29 PM
#312:


Horus_Leftfield posted...
NINExATExSEVEN posted...
Can we at least agree that we need to punch communist like Antifa who wave the hammer and sickle flag?

No. They aren't on the same level as Nazis. There is no moral equivalence there.

More people were killed under communism than under nazi Germany.
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Bishop9800
09/18/17 12:09:52 PM
#313:


It's funny that the people who are defending this guy, are the same people who say thet would run over a Antifa or BLM protester.
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Mal_Fet
09/18/17 12:10:00 PM
#314:


RickyTheBAWSE posted...
NINExATExSEVEN posted...
Can we at least agree that we need to punch communist like Antifa who wave the hammer and sickle flag?


not that I'm saying it's okay to punch Nazis, but this is definitely a false equivalent

Communists also killed a lot of people and advocate violent revolution. If you support punching Nazis, then you must also support punching commies.
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Tezlok
09/18/17 12:10:39 PM
#315:


Bishop9800 posted...
It's funny that the people who are defending this guy, are the same people who say thet would run over a Antifa or BLM protester.

I am against punching antifa too. Unless it is self defense
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DifferentialEquation
09/18/17 12:11:12 PM
#316:


LordTrinen posted...
Those who question what I say about Antifa, try looking up an incident at an Antifa protest to counter what they claimed was a White Supremacist rally in Boston, I think. A white guy with a bald head showed up at the protest and Antifa people starting ripping into him, calling him a Nazi and ultimately sucker punching him before he had a chance to say anything. Afterwards it came out that he was a member of Antifa. Though I suspect he wasn't after that day.


This is the kind of violence that supporting Antifa leads to. You don't even need to be right leaning, simply having alopecia is enough to make you a Nazi.
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MikeArmstrong
09/18/17 12:11:23 PM
#317:


Mal_Fet posted...
MikeArmstrong posted...
Donald is a piece of shit who should get sued for advocating assault.

Obviously.

I'm shocked.
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The Admiral
09/18/17 12:11:46 PM
#318:


Any update on if that thug who committed assault was arrested?
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MikeArmstrong
09/18/17 12:11:52 PM
#319:


Tezlok posted...
Bishop9800 posted...
It's funny that the people who are defending this guy, are the same people who say thet would run over a Antifa or BLM protester.

I am against punching antifa too. Unless it is self defense

But you're ok with running them over?
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BootyGif
09/18/17 12:11:54 PM
#320:


Mal_Fet posted...
RickyTheBAWSE posted...
NINExATExSEVEN posted...
Can we at least agree that we need to punch communist like Antifa who wave the hammer and sickle flag?


not that I'm saying it's okay to punch Nazis, but this is definitely a false equivalent

Communists also killed a lot of people and advocate violent revolution. If you support punching Nazis, then you must also support punching commies.
americans also killed alot of people and advocated violent revolution, you must also support punching americans.
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RickyTheBAWSE
09/18/17 12:12:44 PM
#321:


Mal_Fet posted...
RickyTheBAWSE posted...
NINExATExSEVEN posted...
Can we at least agree that we need to punch communist like Antifa who wave the hammer and sickle flag?


not that I'm saying it's okay to punch Nazis, but this is definitely a false equivalent

Communists also killed a lot of people and advocate violent revolution. If you support punching Nazis, then you must also support punching commies.


RickyTheBAWSE posted...

not that I'm saying it's okay to punch Nazis, but this is definitely a false equivalent

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YourDrunkFather
09/18/17 12:13:42 PM
#322:


averagejoel posted...
@Nazanir posted...
https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/violence

Behaviour involving physical force intended to hurt, damage, or kill someone or something.

So, the Oxford dictionary is wrong?


yawn

https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/tools/lp/Bo/LogicalFallacies/27/Appeal-to-Definition

Appeal to Definition

(also known as: appeal to the dictionary, victory by definition)

Description: Using a dictionary’s limited definition of a term as evidence that term cannot have another meaning, expanded meaning, or even conflicting meaning. This is a fallacy because dictionaries don’t reason; they simply are a reflection of an abbreviated version of the current accepted usage of a term, as determined by argumentation and eventual acceptance. In short, dictionaries tell you what a word meant, according to the authors, at the time of its writing, not what it meant before that time, after, or what it should mean.

Dictionary meanings are usually concise, and lack the depth found in an encyclopedia; therefore, terms found in dictionaries are often incomplete when it comes to helping people to gain a full understanding of the term.


Well, there you have it. Words don't actually mean what they mean anymore. They mean whatever averagejoel wants them to mean to fit whatever political agenda he wants to push
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That_Happened
09/18/17 12:14:17 PM
#323:


Tezlok posted...
you need to stop thinking of neo nazis as the same thing as a WW2 nazi. they don't all for sure want to kill everyone. they don't have the same exact beliefs. but also, even if they do, they can't. like I mentioned earlier in this topic. neo nazis lack power. they arent in charge.

Aren't you the same type of person to get angry when someone says "minorities can't be racist because they lack the power to enact systemic racism?"
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RickyTheBAWSE
09/18/17 12:14:40 PM
#324:


Bishop9800 posted...
It's funny that the people who are defending this guy, are the same people who say thet would run over a Antifa or BLM protester.


lol any of them ever mention running down Nazi protesters? that's an argument I've never heard
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BLAKUboy
09/18/17 12:14:58 PM
#325:


YourDrunkFather posted...
Well, there you have it. Words don't actually mean what they mean anymore. They mean whatever averagejoel wants them to mean to fit whatever political agenda he wants to push

https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/tools/lp/Bo/LogicalFallacies/169/Strawman-Fallacy
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averagejoel
09/18/17 12:14:59 PM
#326:


YourDrunkFather posted...
Well, there you have it. Words don't actually mean what they mean anymore. They mean whatever averagejoel wants them to mean to fit whatever political agenda he wants to push

you're deliberately misinterpreting what I said
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RickyTheBAWSE
09/18/17 12:15:38 PM
#327:


That_Happened posted...
Tezlok posted...
you need to stop thinking of neo nazis as the same thing as a WW2 nazi. they don't all for sure want to kill everyone. they don't have the same exact beliefs. but also, even if they do, they can't. like I mentioned earlier in this topic. neo nazis lack power. they arent in charge.

Aren't you the same type of person to get angry when someone says "minorities can't be racist because they lack the power to enact systemic racism?"


I get angry at this, tbh. but that's another argument.
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Iron-Tarkus
09/18/17 12:16:02 PM
#328:


BootyGif posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
RickyTheBAWSE posted...
NINExATExSEVEN posted...
Can we at least agree that we need to punch communist like Antifa who wave the hammer and sickle flag?


not that I'm saying it's okay to punch Nazis, but this is definitely a false equivalent

Communists also killed a lot of people and advocate violent revolution. If you support punching Nazis, then you must also support punching commies.
americans also killed alot of people and advocated violent revolution, you must also support punching americans.

I'm sure that sounded better in your head but that's not how that works.
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Tezlok
09/18/17 12:16:49 PM
#329:


MikeArmstrong posted...
Tezlok posted...
Bishop9800 posted...
It's funny that the people who are defending this guy, are the same people who say thet would run over a Antifa or BLM protester.

I am against punching antifa too. Unless it is self defense

But you're ok with running them over?

When I am driving an ambulance, yes
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MikeArmstrong
09/18/17 12:17:10 PM
#330:


Lmao zikten you cray
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electricbugs2
09/18/17 12:17:17 PM
#331:


Such a satisfying video.

Lol at the people defending the Nazi. Literally go fall in a hole.

Wish I could buy the black guy a beer.
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That_Happened
09/18/17 12:17:17 PM
#332:


Horus_Leftfield posted...
What if you're wrong. What if there hasn't been an increase in media and social media attacks against white people. What if the only reason people feel that way is because they live on a diet of Sean Hannity, Bill O'Reilley, Rush Limbaugh, Breitbart, and the Daily Caller, and those right wing outlets are lying and exaggerating by telling white people they're under attack, in order to get them addicted to outrage, so they'll keep coming back for another hit. What if the entire problem is right wing media and this anti-white people campaign you're talking about doesn't actually exist.

Yuuuup.

Except for the very last line (because shitty left wing media is an issue too). But any white person who believes we're somehow being demonized as a whole by the mainstream is fucking insane.
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Dustin1280
09/18/17 12:17:25 PM
#333:


Man this topic turned into a shit pile....
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NINExATExSEVEN
09/18/17 12:17:44 PM
#334:


Horus_Leftfield posted...
NINExATExSEVEN posted...
Can we at least agree that we need to punch communist like Antifa who wave the hammer and sickle flag?

No. They aren't on the same level as Nazis. There is no moral equivalence there.


If their ideology takes root then we will all starve by the millions. Communism has killed over 100 million people. Surely waving a communist flag is glorifying all the evil things that resulted from it.
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Bishop9800
09/18/17 12:17:52 PM
#335:


RickyTheBAWSE posted...
Bishop9800 posted...
It's funny that the people who are defending this guy, are the same people who say thet would run over a Antifa or BLM protester.


lol any of them ever mention running down Nazi protesters? that's an argument I've never heard



Hell no. Right now, Addy is more concerned about the Nazis getting knocked out then anything else. If it was a BLM person getting assaulted, he would be singing it's praise.
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RickyTheBAWSE
09/18/17 12:17:54 PM
#336:


Iron-Tarkus posted...
BootyGif posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
RickyTheBAWSE posted...
NINExATExSEVEN posted...
Can we at least agree that we need to punch communist like Antifa who wave the hammer and sickle flag?


not that I'm saying it's okay to punch Nazis, but this is definitely a false equivalent

Communists also killed a lot of people and advocate violent revolution. If you support punching Nazis, then you must also support punching commies.
americans also killed alot of people and advocated violent revolution, you must also support punching americans.

I'm sure that sounded better in your head but that's not how that works.


@Iron-Tarkus

educate us, please.
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BLAKUboy
09/18/17 12:18:22 PM
#337:


That_Happened posted...
Except for the very last line (because shitty left wing media is an issue too).

I mean, yes, both sides are awful. But one is very clearly worse.
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Bishop9800
09/18/17 12:18:30 PM
#338:


Tezlok posted...
MikeArmstrong posted...
Tezlok posted...
Bishop9800 posted...
It's funny that the people who are defending this guy, are the same people who say thet would run over a Antifa or BLM protester.

I am against punching antifa too. Unless it is self defense

But you're ok with running them over?

When I am driving an ambulance, yes



I rest my case
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Tezlok
09/18/17 12:18:46 PM
#339:


That_Happened posted...
Tezlok posted...
you need to stop thinking of neo nazis as the same thing as a WW2 nazi. they don't all for sure want to kill everyone. they don't have the same exact beliefs. but also, even if they do, they can't. like I mentioned earlier in this topic. neo nazis lack power. they arent in charge.

Aren't you the same type of person to get angry when someone says "minorities can't be racist because they lack the power to enact systemic racism?"

That's different. You can be racist regardless if you have the power to do anything. Someone who is powerless can be racist all they want. Racism and he power to act are two different things
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1NfamousACE_2
09/18/17 12:19:55 PM
#340:


Dude got what was coming to him
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Nazanir
09/18/17 12:20:08 PM
#341:


averagejoel posted...
YourDrunkFather posted...
Well, there you have it. Words don't actually mean what they mean anymore. They mean whatever averagejoel wants them to mean to fit whatever political agenda he wants to push

you're deliberately misinterpreting what I said

Nope, you are trying to twist the meaning of the word violence to make it mean something it doesn't.
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tommybel89
09/18/17 12:20:56 PM
#342:


ssj3vegeta2 posted...
Fair next, fuck nazis

What's fair about punching a regular citizen? Was this Nazi defending the beaches of Normandy?
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Tezlok
09/18/17 12:21:15 PM
#343:


Bishop9800 posted...
Tezlok posted...
MikeArmstrong posted...
Tezlok posted...
Bishop9800 posted...
It's funny that the people who are defending this guy, are the same people who say thet would run over a Antifa or BLM protester.

I am against punching antifa too. Unless it is self defense

But you're ok with running them over?

When I am driving an ambulance, yes



I rest my case

Attacking antifa or Nazis wrong unless the antifa or Nazi is a threat
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RickyTheBAWSE
09/18/17 12:21:33 PM
#344:


That_Happened posted...
Horus_Leftfield posted...
What if you're wrong. What if there hasn't been an increase in media and social media attacks against white people. What if the only reason people feel that way is because they live on a diet of Sean Hannity, Bill O'Reilley, Rush Limbaugh, Breitbart, and the Daily Caller, and those right wing outlets are lying and exaggerating by telling white people they're under attack, in order to get them addicted to outrage, so they'll keep coming back for another hit. What if the entire problem is right wing media and this anti-white people campaign you're talking about doesn't actually exist.

Yuuuup.

Except for the very last line (because shitty left wing media is an issue too). But any white person who believes we're somehow being demonized as a whole by the mainstream is fucking insane.


thing is... there are no Black owned mainstream media sources. they get all of their info on White people FROM White people. their info from Black people also comes from White people.

the media completely shapes narratives, and these clowns believe anything negative said that isn't said about themselves personally.
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tommybel89
09/18/17 12:21:55 PM
#345:


Vindris_SNH posted...
It is not acceptable to punch people just because their beliefs appall you. This kind of violence should be cut off immediately. Hopefully the people who punched him get charged with battery. I mean yeah, Nazis are scum, but come on. Be civil. This kind of behavior isn't going to solve the bigger issue. In fact, it will only make it worse.

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MikeArmstrong
09/18/17 12:22:04 PM
#346:


Tezlok posted...
Bishop9800 posted...
Tezlok posted...
MikeArmstrong posted...
Tezlok posted...
Bishop9800 posted...
It's funny that the people who are defending this guy, are the same people who say thet would run over a Antifa or BLM protester.

I am against punching antifa too. Unless it is self defense

But you're ok with running them over?

When I am driving an ambulance, yes



I rest my case

Attacking antifa or Nazis wrong unless the antifa or Nazi is a threat

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BootyGif
09/18/17 12:22:33 PM
#347:


Iron-Tarkus posted...
BootyGif posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
RickyTheBAWSE posted...
NINExATExSEVEN posted...
Can we at least agree that we need to punch communist like Antifa who wave the hammer and sickle flag?


not that I'm saying it's okay to punch Nazis, but this is definitely a false equivalent

Communists also killed a lot of people and advocate violent revolution. If you support punching Nazis, then you must also support punching commies.
americans also killed alot of people and advocated violent revolution, you must also support punching americans.

I'm sure that sounded better in your head but that's not how that works.

its exactly how that works. its all bullshit.
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That_Happened
09/18/17 12:23:02 PM
#348:


Tezlok posted...
That_Happened posted...
Tezlok posted...
you need to stop thinking of neo nazis as the same thing as a WW2 nazi. they don't all for sure want to kill everyone. they don't have the same exact beliefs. but also, even if they do, they can't. like I mentioned earlier in this topic. neo nazis lack power. they arent in charge.

Aren't you the same type of person to get angry when someone says "minorities can't be racist because they lack the power to enact systemic racism?"

That's different. You can be racist regardless if you have the power to do anything. Someone who is powerless can be racist all they want. Racism and he power to act are two different things

You can also kill people regardless of whether you have the power to make it a national movement. And when your movement's stated goal is "eliminate other races" why does it suddenly not matter if they can't do it on a systemic level?
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averagejoel
09/18/17 12:23:20 PM
#349:


Nazanir posted...
averagejoel posted...
YourDrunkFather posted...
Well, there you have it. Words don't actually mean what they mean anymore. They mean whatever averagejoel wants them to mean to fit whatever political agenda he wants to push

you're deliberately misinterpreting what I said

Nope, you are trying to twist the meaning of the word violence to make it mean something it doesn't.

I've already explained this, but here's the post again:

https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/tools/lp/Bo/LogicalFallacies/27/Appeal-to-Definition

Appeal to Definition

(also known as: appeal to the dictionary, victory by definition)

Description: Using a dictionary’s limited definition of a term as evidence that term cannot have another meaning, expanded meaning, or even conflicting meaning. This is a fallacy because dictionaries don’t reason; they simply are a reflection of an abbreviated version of the current accepted usage of a term, as determined by argumentation and eventual acceptance. In short, dictionaries tell you what a word meant, according to the authors, at the time of its writing, not what it meant before that time, after, or what it should mean.

Dictionary meanings are usually concise, and lack the depth found in an encyclopedia; therefore, terms found in dictionaries are often incomplete when it comes to helping people to gain a full understanding of the term.

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The Great Muta 22
09/18/17 12:24:31 PM
#350:


There's been a lot of ignorant things said in this topic but one that went under the radar was Mal claiming no one attacked actual Nazis until they invaded Poland while he insulted someone else's lack of an education. As if riots and brawls in the streets weren't a thing used in the early 1930s and intact pointed to by Hitler as evidence of the "violent and extreme Bolsheviks and Marxists out to destroy society". Don't call out someone eleses education if you're ignorant yourself Mal.

That or the whole part where he equates Nazis to the entire left lmao
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