Current Events > Pepe the Frogs Creator Goes Legally Nuclear Against the Alt-Right

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FrisbeeDude
09/18/17 8:02:30 PM
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https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/8x8gaa/pepe-the-frogs-creator-lawsuits-dmca-matt-furie-alt-right?utm_source=vicetwitterus

Pepe the Frog creator Matt Furie has made good on his threat to "aggressively enforce his intellectual property."

The artist's lawyers have taken legal action against the alt-right. They have served cease and desist orders to several alt-right personalities and websites including Richard Spencer, Mike Cernovich, and the r/the_Donald subreddit. In addition, they have issued Digital Millennium Copyright Act takedown requests to Reddit and Amazon, notifying them that use of Pepe by the alt-right on their platforms is copyright infringement. The message is to the alt-right is clear—stop using Pepe the Frog or prepare for legal consequences.

Furie originally created Pepe as a non-political character for his Boy's Club comic, but Pepe later became an internet meme and during the 2016 US presidential election the alt-right movement appropriated the frog in various grotesque and hateful memes.

At the end of August, Furie's lawyers reached a settlement with Eric Hauser—the former assistant principal in Texas who appropriated Pepe's image for use in an Islamophobic children's book. Furie's lawyers forced Hauser to stop selling the book and made him donate his profits to the Council on American-Islamic Relations.

When Hauser agreed to settle out of court, I spoke with Furie's lawyers who told me they would use the Hauser settlement as a springboard to go after anyone else who profited from or misused Pepe. It appears they've made good on that promise.


Good for him. I wouldn't want my creative work adopted by nazis and racists either.
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Turbam
09/18/17 8:03:13 PM
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Lmao
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hortanz
09/18/17 8:04:27 PM
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I wonder what it feels like to see your brainchild grow up into a degenerate nazi
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BlackHorse6969
09/18/17 8:05:09 PM
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would he be able to catch a nazi CEman using pepe on this board?
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0AbsoluteZero0
09/18/17 8:05:46 PM
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Can't wait to see the usual suspects find some way to cry about this
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RebelElite791
09/18/17 8:07:18 PM
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UnholyMudcrab
09/18/17 8:08:56 PM
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Axiom
09/18/17 8:10:10 PM
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UnholyMudcrab posted...
I'm no copyright lawyer, but I don't really see how this could fly.

Yeah I imagine this will only work on people like Spencer if it does at all. The racist memes will never stop
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Back_Stabbath
09/18/17 8:11:22 PM
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At the end of August, Furie's lawyers reached a settlement with Eric Hauser—the former assistant principal in Texas who appropriated Pepe's image for use in an Islamophobic children's book. Furie's lawyers forced Hauser to stop selling the book and made him donate his profits to the Council on American-Islamic Relations.

this guy is awesome
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Azarias
09/18/17 8:12:51 PM
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UnholyMudcrab posted...
I'm no copyright lawyer, but I don't really see how this could fly.


I'm curious as well, the memes should count as a transformative work, yes? That's still fair use.

Though I could see cases being made against those profiting off the work, as shown in the article.
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UrCa1988
09/18/17 8:14:04 PM
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First the KC Green lampoons conservatives who used his art and now pepe is fighting back, too.
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Villain
09/18/17 8:18:20 PM
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I recall an interview where he didn't care. Was that fake?
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NeonOctopus
09/18/17 8:19:05 PM
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Axiom
09/18/17 8:20:13 PM
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Villain posted...
I recall an interview where he didn't care. Was that fake?

Had to be. He did a cartoon where he killed Pepe off because he hated the fact that the alt right appropriated it
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Back_Stabbath
09/18/17 8:20:18 PM
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Villain posted...
I recall an interview where he didn't care. Was that fake?

might have felt that way a while ago. a light bulb has gone off in his head recently that said "wait a minute, this f***er is my character. I can make money off of this!". He has a kickstarter going at the moment for a new pepe series that promotes peace.
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The Admiral
09/18/17 8:20:54 PM
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Yeah, this is mainly about Spencer and that guy who used Pepe in the children's book. Literally nothing you can do to take down message board memes.
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Kitt
09/18/17 8:22:11 PM
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LepartialJury
09/18/17 8:25:44 PM
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lol that's hilarious
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CelestialVoices
09/18/17 8:28:22 PM
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Kineth
09/18/17 8:28:38 PM
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Heh.
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Questionmarktarius
09/18/17 8:33:05 PM
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UnholyMudcrab posted...
I'm no copyright lawyer, but I don't really see how this could fly.

Get a team of law-ninja to go all "Hurt Locker" about it.
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FrisbeeDude
09/18/17 8:34:51 PM
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Pressuring redditt to start banning alt right users who use it seems like an ideal move.
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Lordsai
09/18/17 8:38:29 PM
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You can't stop meme magic.
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Skye Reynolds
09/18/17 8:40:07 PM
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This is hilarious. But, yeah, I don't blame him. I'd go nuclear if someone made a creation of mine into a fascist symbol.
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Vaati_Reborn
09/18/17 8:44:41 PM
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Return Pepe to the harmless pure meme he once was
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Kineth
09/18/17 9:28:12 PM
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Mr Hangman posted...
UnholyMudcrab posted...
I'm no copyright lawyer, but I don't really see how this could fly.


It's not going to stop them, it's just an avenue for harassment. Which is wrong and an abuse of the law (and bad laws to begin with), even if the targets are terrible people.


Same people are fine with the cops harassing minorities, not that that makes it right, but it makes it ironic as shit.
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wolverinev2
09/18/17 9:32:54 PM
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But.. He didn't create Pepe The Frog. Nintendo did, for Star Fox, Star Fox 2 and Star Fox 64. So how can he copyright something he didn't create? All he did was turn it's face into a meme.
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Kineth
09/18/17 9:33:59 PM
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wolverinev2 posted...
But.. He didn't create Pepe The Frog. Nintendo did, for Star Fox, Star Fox 2 and Star Fox 64. So how can he copyright something he didn't create? All he did was turn it's face into a meme.


Skippy is the Frog in Star Fox...
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DarthAragorn
09/18/17 9:34:09 PM
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FrisbeeDude posted...
Pressuring redditt to start banning alt right users who use it seems like an ideal move.

Lol wut
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wolverinev2
09/18/17 9:35:27 PM
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Kineth posted...
wolverinev2 posted...
But.. He didn't create Pepe The Frog. Nintendo did, for Star Fox, Star Fox 2 and Star Fox 64. So how can he copyright something he didn't create? All he did was turn it's face into a meme.


Skippy is the Frog in Star Fox...


I was wrong, it was Slippy.
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A_Good_Boy
09/18/17 9:50:03 PM
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Kineth posted...
wolverinev2 posted...
But.. He didn't create Pepe The Frog. Nintendo did, for Star Fox, Star Fox 2 and Star Fox 64. So how can he copyright something he didn't create? All he did was turn it's face into a meme.


Skippy is the Frog in Star Fox...

These two motherfuckers right here.
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Kineth
09/18/17 9:51:20 PM
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<_<
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Kaname_Madoka
09/18/17 9:52:16 PM
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Mal_Fet
09/18/17 9:53:13 PM
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How will this accomplish anything other than inspire the alt right to make more pepe memes
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PostCrisisJ2
09/18/17 10:07:01 PM
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Mal_Fet posted...
How will this accomplish anything other than inspire the alt right to make more pepe memes


I don't think the point is to stop racist Pepe memes though, just him basically reclaiming him both in a financial and metaphorical sense, maybe moreso the latter. In either case he's not doing anything wrong.
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Questionmarktarius
09/18/17 10:07:03 PM
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Mal_Fet posted...
How will this accomplish anything other than inspire the alt right to make more pepe memes

If anything, the memebase will move on to "daily dose"...
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Kaname_Madoka
09/18/17 10:09:57 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
How will this accomplish anything other than inspire the alt right to make more pepe memes

If anything, the memebase will move on to "daily dose"...

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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TheoryzC
09/18/17 10:12:20 PM
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Vaati_Reborn posted...
Return Pepe to the harmless pure meme he once was

#MakePepeGreatAgain
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WesternMedia
09/21/17 1:12:14 AM
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Karma is a bitch
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C_Pain
09/21/17 1:14:27 AM
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This makes me a rage. Pepe isn't his. We are all Pepe's children.

Also saying pepe is a nazi is fucking stupid. Most of the people doing that are trolling, and even so, pepe can reflect whatever virtue you want, that's the point of his memeability.
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MangaFan462
09/21/17 2:44:27 AM
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What a snowflake
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kingdrake2
09/21/17 3:04:30 AM
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TheoryzC posted...
Vaati_Reborn posted...
Return Pepe to the harmless pure meme he once was

#MakePepeGreatAgain


mIDnkm9

it's ftw pepe will make his return again.
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