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scar the 1
09/19/17 4:12:38 AM
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The refugee crisis these past few years has been taxing. Lebanon takes tons of refugees, many countries in Europe were overwhelmed. Now Bangladesh is taking at least 300k refugees and counting. Australia have their own refugee issues.
Here's the problem: Refugee numbers are gonna increase. A lot. Not necessarily because of armed conflicts, but because the climate is changing. Trying to combat climate change is all well and good, but countries really need to realize that climate refugees are gonna become very numerous. Just look at what happens when a developed country like the US is hit by two major hurricanes. Imagine those types of disasters in undeveloped countries. Stronger storms are supposed to become more common. Rising sea levels will make places uninhabitable. Droughts will displace large populations (that turned out well in Syria, didn't it?).
Point is, if all this refugee circus can teach us anything, it shouldn't be "We need to close our borders". It should be "We need to amp up our capabilities to accept refugees in case something happens". Because things are gonna happen.

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Zeus
09/19/17 4:14:25 AM
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Or, you know, we could stabilize the regions that they're from so they don't need to pick up their lives and move to areas with vastly different cultures, languages, etc.
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scar the 1
09/19/17 4:16:13 AM
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Zeus posted...
Or, you know, we could stabilize the regions that they're from so they don't need to pick up their lives and move to areas with vastly different cultures, languages, etc.

That's a good long-term goal. What's the time plan on that, you think?
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Lonestar2000
09/19/17 4:25:27 AM
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Why don't these people stay and fight for their countries rather than running away?
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The_Donald
09/19/17 4:27:03 AM
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scar the 1 posted...
That's a good long-term goal. What's the time plan on that, you think?

Depends on how willing they are to accept responsibility instead of relying on "capable" countries welfare.
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scar the 1
09/19/17 4:56:38 AM
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Lonestar2000 posted...
Why don't these people stay and fight for their countries rather than running away?

You mean like the Floridians who were gonna shoot at hurricane Irma? Those are surely role models :)
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The_Donald
09/19/17 4:57:49 AM
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scar the 1 posted...
Lonestar2000 posted...
Why don't these people stay and fight for their countries rather than running away?

You mean like the Floridians who were gonna shoot at hurricane Irma? Those are surely role models :)

Typical liberal logic to take the most extreme cases instead of addressing the rational ideas put forth.

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scar the 1
09/19/17 5:01:17 AM
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The_Donald posted...
scar the 1 posted...
Lonestar2000 posted...
Why don't these people stay and fight for their countries rather than running away?

You mean like the Floridians who were gonna shoot at hurricane Irma? Those are surely role models :)

Typical liberal logic to take the most extreme cases instead of addressing the rational ideas put forth.

Fantasyland

I get that you're a gimmick troll and all, but can't you even let obvious tongue-in-cheek jokes slide?
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The_Donald
09/19/17 5:04:31 AM
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scar the 1 posted...
I get that you're a gimmick troll and all, but can't you even let obvious tongue-in-cheek jokes slide?

You've made absurd comment after absurd comment, you're a caricature of yourself at this point.
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Aelia
09/19/17 5:09:54 AM
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Not trying to be a douche at all, but what specifically are people, with regards to climate change, running from?

Holy commas batman, there's no way those commas are right. But still, I'm genuinely curious.
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Lordsai
09/19/17 5:29:23 AM
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Lonestar2000 posted...
Why don't these people stay and fight for their countries rather than running away?
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scar the 1
09/19/17 5:33:07 AM
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Aelia posted...
Not trying to be a douche at all, but what specifically are people, with regards to climate change, running from?

Holy commas batman, there's no way those commas are right. But still, I'm genuinely curious.

Drought, flooding?
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scar the 1
09/19/17 9:15:43 AM
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Bump
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UncleBourbon33
09/19/17 9:32:53 AM
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scar the 1
09/19/17 9:53:07 AM
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UncleBourbon33 posted...
How about no?

So, more and more people are going to become refugees but countries don't need to be ready for them? How come?
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Flasbangs
09/19/17 9:56:02 AM
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scar the 1 posted...
UncleBourbon33 posted...
How about no?

So, more and more people are going to become refugees but countries don't need to be ready for them? How come?


If we became refugees here in Northern Europe, do you think we would be welcome in any of those countries that are currently leaking refugees? Besides, it's found again and again, that a large portion of these people aren't even refugees, just economic immigrants looking for handouts or a less strict justice system.
I'm all for helping people who flee for their lives, but we really need a way to filter out the scum.
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voldothegr8
09/19/17 9:57:35 AM
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LOL no, most countries who let refugees in are regretting it
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pinky0926
09/19/17 9:58:39 AM
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This is a NIMBY problem. Everyone wants to talk about helping refugees or fixing the problem, but nobody wants to actually take any responsibility for it personally.

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scar the 1
09/19/17 10:04:29 AM
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Flasbangs posted...
scar the 1 posted...
UncleBourbon33 posted...
How about no?

So, more and more people are going to become refugees but countries don't need to be ready for them? How come?


If we became refugees here in Northern Europe, do you think we would be welcome in any of those countries that are currently leaking refugees? Besides, it's found again and again, that a large portion of these people aren't even refugees, just economic immigrants looking for handouts or a less strict justice system.
I'm all for helping people who flee for their lives, but we really need a way to filter out the scum.

I'm not talking about the current refugees. I'm saying that it's apparent from how we were overwhelmed by refugees that we need to be prepared with better infrastructure to take in people. Because in the future, there are going to be more refugees. A lot more.
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scar the 1
09/20/17 9:18:40 PM
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DarthAragorn
09/20/17 9:21:58 PM
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